Hi,
I used to love my Kenzo 2 gb version, untill I found out that his 1,8 gb of ram are so so low. But, is that true?!
I mean 2 gb are the minimun requirement for MM or NG I think, but with miui, miui port, NG based rom (didn't try oreo, or lineage MM), custom kernel, anything the ram management is really really bad.
After only two days of usage, free ram became 200mb or even 100mb with no social media app (just telegram and instagram with no notification allowed) or anything. Doze, greenify, clear ram or not clear it, doesn't change the situation, used ram increase day by day untill the phone is laggy and unusable.
So you have to restart the phone at least every two day. It's crazy today.
On custom ng roms the situation is a bit better but on miui, damn, the ram is so full that sometimes I can't even open the keyboard or camera.
Every 2 gb phones has this issue? is an MM/NG problem? or is a kenzo problem? is there something I (or we) can do to menage ram more efficently (I don't want free ram, I want a ram used in the correct way).?
thank u
Very good question, i suggest you make manual tweaks to lmk (low memory killer), it has helped my rn3 2gb multitask better on oreo
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I have too faced that problem. It's mainly due to ROMs. Some ROMs have lag no matter which kernel you use or how much tweak it. I have literally tried each and every custom rom which are updated and found only some ROMs which have less noticable lag. Default miui rom, aex, RR by movzx, nos some builds and Oreo, and slim rom. On other rom I tried different kernel and when tweaked it to max but still lagged as hell. Even opening dialer app sometimes froze the system leave aside heavy gaming. This is really serious issue on 2gb because of which we are restricted to certain ROMs.
I too have a 2GB kenzo, but never had such problems...currently using NOS Oreo and it is fluid & fast. Same on miui.
Right now system occupies around 700MB + around 400MB apps, rest is available. Never had RAM problems myself...luckily.
Buy MI device unlock bootloader next day > Flash custom ROMs > RIP ****UI
That is the main reason why I've changed my Kenzo 2gb. I wasn't able to use miui at all with this phone, app killing and lagging was a daily basis. So I used the most Ram friendly rom with this phone, but still keeping more than 3 apps in the memory was a problem.
Idk, but maybe it's because of the x64 architecture (similar to pc, this architecture uses more ram). I had many phones with 32gb and x32 architecture and ram was never an issue.
So trust me, I've tried everything to improve the ram efficiency, but not much has changed. The only solution for me to change the phone.
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man use rambexpander app you can have 4 GB RAM and it does work very well
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[email protected] said:
Very good question, i suggest you make manual tweaks to lmk (low memory killer), it has helped my rn3 2gb multitask better on oreo
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I don't know how to turn the lmk aggressive on radon I know that I have to edit the radon.sh script but I don't know what I have to write there.
Oreo I think is pretty unstable for me know better wait some months
diyar95 said:
man use rambexpander app you can have 4 GB RAM and it does work very well
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I read that that app bricked some devices. Does it really help? It just create a swap partition I believe
RealPsygnosis said:
I don't know how to turn the lmk aggressive on radon I know that I have to edit the radon.sh script but I don't know what I have to write there.
Oreo I think is pretty unstable for me know better wait some months
I read that that app bricked some devices. Does it really help? It just create a swap partition I believe
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Oreo is unstable, but i can't go back
I use agni, so its easy af to change lmk settings
Anyway, you should set it to light, not aggressive bro
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Ram to sd for konzo
Does ram to sd like some app works really i havent rooted my phone still on stock miui reply soon... I also face ram management problem on my kenzo 2gb
i have around 400-500 mb of free ram, i'm using greenify often and set background process limit to 4.
i uninstalled every apps that not really used and yeah less lag noticed
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There's this 2 versions of Redmi 5 Plus ...
The 4gb version worths the invested money?
My doubts are:
- The 3gb ram can handle reopening browser (mainly Opera to me but could be Chrome aswell just for the sake of testing) without reloading the webpages each time??? If so please tell me..
- Should I choose the 4gb ? It has some other major improvements over the 3gb ram ?
I just don't want to waste money for no significant improvements. Thanks! :fingers-crossed:
I think it's more important 64gb storage than 4gb of ram
For me 32gb it's not enough.
There are many videos showing the miui memory management problems on YouTube. (look at the comparative VS videos).
3gb is fine with stock Android. But miui has very bad ram management. It closes background apps much faster than stock Android. So, if you need multi-tasking it's advised to go with the 4gb version.
(4gb on miui seems worse than 3gb on stock.)
I'm on 4gb and happy with it so far.
Edit: That being said, if you come back to your browser after open perhaps 4 or 5 apps you should be fine with 3gb. But get the 4gb to be on the safe side. The price difference is only 20 bucks anyway, so definitely worth it).
BigMango said:
There are many videos showing the miui memory management problems on YouTube. (look at the comparative VS videos).
3gb is fine with stock Android. But miui has very bad ram management. It closes background apps much faster than stock Android. So, if you need multi-tasking it's advised to go with the 4gb version.
(4gb on miui seems worse than 3gb on stock.)
I'm on 4gb and happy with it so far.
Edit: That being said, if you come back to your browser after open perhaps 4 or 5 apps you should be fine with 3gb. But get the 4gb to be on the safe side. The price difference is only 20 bucks anyway, so definitely worth it).
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It would be nice if I get paid in dollars, lol.. 20$ turn into 100 R$ (my local currency) .. comparable to 100 dollars to someone who lives abroad. It worths the investment anyway..
I have a Xiaomi Mi Note 2 (but it fell off to the ground yesterday and stopped working :crying .. Before I had a Lenovo Zuk Z2.. both with 4gb ram... I ditched MIUI in favor of Resurrection Remix .. What I can remember is that disabling MIUI Ram Management in settings it can hold a lot of apps in memory.. but as I said, my experience was not with 3gb ram..
Those comparison videos are not clear if they disabled the MIUI Ram Management.. so it would probably hold the apps opened in background (even with 3gb ram)... With 4gb it's garanteed to do the job..
If anyone here with 3gb ram can tell us your experiences regarding ram management and disabling that option, I would appreciate..
For those who are in doubt over prioritizing memory VS storage.. I would go for memory.. as the storage is upgradeable (with sd card).. memory is not.. and it gives you more time range to spend with the chosen device :good:
Luckzzz said:
It would be nice if I get paid in dollars, lol.. 20$ turn into 100 R$ (my local currency) .. comparable to 100 dollars to someone who lives abroad. It worths the investment anyway..
I have a Xiaomi Mi Note 2 (but it fell off to the ground yesterday and stopped working :crying .. Before I had a Lenovo Zuk Z2.. both with 4gb ram... I ditched MIUI in favor of Resurrection Remix .. What I can remember is that disabling MIUI Ram Management in settings it can hold a lot of apps in memory.. but as I said, my experience was not with 3gb ram..
Those comparison videos are not clear if they disabled the MIUI Ram Management.. so it would probably hold the apps opened in background (even with 3gb ram)... With 4gb it's garanteed to do the job..
If anyone here with 3gb ram can tell us your experiences regarding ram management and disabling that option, I would appreciate..
For those who are in doubt over prioritizing memory VS storage.. I would go for memory.. as the storage is upgradeable (with sd card).. memory is not.. and it gives you more time range to spend with the chosen device :good:
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3gb version using since few months and it's quite good, miui memory optimization disabled by default in newer version.
Also I am using moded miui rom which is super fast as compare to stock miui.
As far as I know browser sometimes reload but it's speed is quit fast so I didn't noticed any difference till yet.
Regards
irfan.shikarpuri said:
3gb version using since few months and it's quite good, miui memory optimization disabled by default in newer version.
Also I am using moded miui rom which is super fast as compare to stock miui.
As far as I know browser sometimes reload but it's speed is quit fast so I didn't noticed any difference till yet.
Regards
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Thanks for replying!
I just opted for the 4GB Ram..
Are you using what modded MIUI?? Xiaomi.eu custom rom ??
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-3-15.43621/
Are you using the "xiaomi.eu_multi_HM5Plus_V9.5.5.0.NEGCNFA_v9-7.1.zip" version?? :laugh:
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Thanks for replying!
I just opted for the 4GB Ram..
Are you using which modded MIUI?? Xiaomi.eu custom rom ??
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-3-15.43621/
Are you using the "xiaomi.eu_multi_HM5Plus_V9.5.5.0.NEGCNFA_v9-7.1.zip" version?? :laugh:
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yes but not direct
First I installed wash n dish by Jerome-X than updated came and I update to xiaomi eu 9.5.5.0
About a week ago and still using the same rom. Actually Jerome-X rom has super speed and fluidity which I never used on any rom till yet that's why I am still using the updated version from xiaome.eu
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yes but not direct
First I installed wash n dish by Jerome-X than updated came and I update to xiaomi eu 9.5.5.0
About a week ago and still using the same rom. Actually Jerome-X rom has super speed and fluidity which I never used on any rom till yet that's why I am still using the updated version from xiaome.eu
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I got a little bit confused..
Jerome-X rom is not the same as Xiaomi.eu rom, right?
Which one is faster/smooth ?? They both have the same amount of stuff/customizations?
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I got a little bit confused..
Jerome-X rom is not the same as Xiaomi.eu rom, right?
Which one is faster/smooth ?? They both have the same amount of stuff/customizations?
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Actually wash n dish by Jerome-X based on xiaomi eu with super speed and fluidity May be he used performance kernel, as far as I understand. The rom is super cool and very nice for daily drive I am using since 10 to 12 days and didn't find any bug or issue so for
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Actually wash n dish by Jerome-X based on xiaomi eu with super speed and fluidity May be he used performance kernel, as far as I understand. The rom is super cool and very nice for daily drive I am using since 10 to 12 days and didn't find any bug or issue so for
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Sounds like an amazing rom to try, ¿do you have any link to get it?, can't find anywhere to dowload it, just a blocked tread here.
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Sounds like an amazing rom to try, ¿do you have any link to get it?, can't find anywhere to dowload it, just a blocked tread here.
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Dear seems rom post has been deleted don't know the reason but the rom was super awsom May be some one have its link today I accidentally deleted the rom other wise will upload on some sharing site.
been using the 3gb for some time now... it good for multitasking. 4gb is an overkill. you should go with the 4gb variant mostly because its 64gb memory, I don't think you'll notice a performance difference in because of the increased ram, tho it's always nice to have more ram; you never know when you might actually need it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dear seems rom post has been deleted don't know the reason but the rom was super awsom May be some one have its link today I accidentally deleted the rom other wise will upload on some sharing site.
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Thread was closed because the Rom contained a pirated warez app.
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Thread was closed because the Rom contained a pirated warez app.
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Which one? Can you elaborate
I don't know, never used the rom. I've just read that some xda crew member closed the thread because of warez.
Hi,
I own a Redmi Note 3 pro Snapdragon (KENZO) (2GB RAM version) from 2 years ago. At the start I didn't need to use any custom ROM because the phone was fast enough to play games and use every app without lag problems, but on the last 7/8 months, my phone started to feel laggy when I watch some videos on Chrome or Facebook, or when I open webpages with many ads (I use Adaway and Adfree already).
The thing is, lately not only feels laggy, but it closes the app when I demand more resources to my phone, which didn't happen months ago, and I need to try open it again and search the content praying for not beging closed again, it makes me really upset. Right now I'm using Liquid Remix ROM, but I have tried 3 or 4 more ROMs before this one, and I have never found one that fits the low resources my phone has.
I think the problem is the RAM, because with every app in background closed, I don't reach the 400MB free of RAM, so I can't even play games without lag.
I would appreciate if you expert guys tell me about a ROM which has this aspect very developed, I know that there are not better ROMs than another, every ROM has its huge work behind and I don't pretend to infravalorate the work of any of them, but I really need a ROM which consume low recurses for working on idle, so I can use my phone without having this special problem.
Could you please help me?
I know Citrus-CAF was one of the best options for 2GB kenzo, but it hasn't been updated in like half a year, and it's still Android N, but if you have no luck with other ROMs might as well try that.
I have been using Nitrogen OS 8.1 for a couple of months now and I can say that it is worth flashing. The UI is buttery smooth, performance is decent (PUBG feels heavy though) and battery life is good.
I'll try NitrogenOS right now, I know that ROM is famous and I've never tried it for a long time. Thanks for your help brothers
Even I face the problem with Redmi Note 3 16gb rom
And 2gb ram with snapdragon processor.
I havent flashed from earlier to this device. It will be helpful
If you give detailed steps or point me to a link
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Even I face the problem with Redmi Note 3 16gb rom
And 2gb ram with snapdragon processor.
I havent flashed from earlier to this device. It will be helpful
If you give detailed steps or point me to a link
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Please use the search function. You can find all the guides in the sticky thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/how-to/xiaomi-redmi-note-3-sticky-roll-t3528728
I'm using havoc os 8.1 latest build
Agni 12.9
Lspeed
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Just look at this SS
For all the Kenzo 2gb ram users please read this. Who want stable miui 10 i suggest you install Official miui 10 8.8.16 developers ROM it's the best Miui ROM I have ever used so far .it's smooth and it's ram management is also awesome and with all the normal apps installed such as Facebook whatsapp and all. I can easily switch between 5-6 apps which is awesome for a Miui ROM.
I too was so much frustrated from changing ROM coz all Custom roms didn't have the look and customisation such as in Miui, but due to my 2gb ram almost every miui ROM was unstable for me.
After installing the ROM everything is in stock moreover.i haven't even rooted my phone then also I got upto 5:30 hrs Screen on time with 20% left my usage was full time 4G .I feel so blessed I found this ROM now I can have the awesome look of Miui along with full stability and ram management, I'm a regular XDA visitor but I never comment or reply , but for all the 2gb kenzo users this might be very helpfull.Sorry for my English if I spelled something wrong.
In sort Features of this ROM which I liked very much are
1) Best ram management ever I got on a Miui ROM (especially for 2gb ram user)
2) Very good Battery life ( Easily can reach upto 6hrs Sot with 4g , it's more than enough for my 2yrs old Kenzo)
3) Almost full stable even though it's a Developer ROM ( I didn't faced any issue till now)
4) Liquid smooth UI , no lag ever
Hope it Helps Someone..
By the way I'm on stock kernel and unrooted right now
I'm posting this on every Thread cuz I want everyone to know about it and fix there ram management.
ghanshyamrana123456 said:
For all the Kenzo 2gb ram users please read this. Who want stable miui 10 i suggest you install Official miui 10 8.8.16 developers ROM it's the best Miui ROM I have ever used so far .it's smooth and it's ram management is also awesome and with all the normal apps installed such as Facebook whatsapp and all. I can easily switch between 5-6 apps which is awesome for a Miui ROM.
I too was so much frustrated from changing ROM coz all Custom roms didn't have the look and customisation such as in Miui, but due to my 2gb ram almost every miui ROM was unstable for me.
After installing the ROM everything is in stock moreover.i haven't even rooted my phone then also I got upto 5:30 hrs Screen on time with 20% left my usage was full time 4G .I feel so blessed I found this ROM now I can have the awesome look of Miui along with full stability and ram management, I'm a regular XDA visitor but I never comment or reply , but for all the 2gb kenzo users this might be very helpfull.Sorry for my English if I spelled something wrong.
In sort Features of this ROM which I liked very much are
1) Best ram management ever I got on a Miui ROM (especially for 2gb ram user)
2) Very good Battery life ( Easily can reach upto 6hrs Sot with 4g , it's more than enough for my 2yrs old Kenzo)
3) Almost full stable even though it's a Developer ROM ( I didn't faced any issue till now)
4) Liquid smooth UI , no lag ever
Hope it Helps Someone..
By the way I'm on stock kernel and unrooted right now
I'm posting this on every Thread cuz I want everyone to know about it and fix there ram management.
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Why my 2gb ram mido device is lagging.I have tried all rom but all custom rom start lagg after some day.Then i flashed stable miui but now lag aside even i can't multitask between two app also.Many 2gb ram android phone ls multitasking are smooth but my mido even can't multitask between two app.Please help.
2GB?
Akibtech said:
Why my 2gb ram mido device is lagging.I have tried all rom but all custom rom start lagg after some day.Then i flashed stable miui but now lag aside even i can't multitask between two app also.Many 2gb ram android phone ls multitasking are smooth but my mido even can't multitask between two app.Please help.
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u should have buyed the 4GB variant , i didnt even knew there was a 2GB variant , maybe theres a android Go rom for mido but i never seen one
almost no 'good' phone use 2GB of ram now , u cant do anything with 2GB of ram...
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u should have buyed the 4GB variant , i didnt even knew there was a 2GB variant , maybe theres a android Go rom for mido but i never seen one
almost no 'good' phone use 2GB of ram now , u cant do anything with 2GB of ram...
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Definitely not. 4GB would have been better, but 2GB should be enough for light ROMs and light use.
Please check what apps you are using.
Kick Facebook and other "always in background" apps from your device.
Use the original MIUI ROM or LineageOS.
Maybe try to avoid the Google Services.
Backup your favorit apps and don't install the Google Apps with the LineageOS ROM.
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u should have buyed the 4GB variant , i didnt even knew there was a 2GB variant , maybe theres a android Go rom for mido but i never seen one
almost no 'good' phone use 2GB of ram now , u cant do anything with 2GB of ram...
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3gb is enough
DotOS is best for 2gb variant.
I'm using DotOS for my redmi note 4 2gb variant. The OS soo smooth and lag free. Im using this rom for almost 5 months..
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But....
There is one issue, after 10 or 12 hours my phone can't open any apps or any operations except homescreen.
Restarting the phone will fix the problem temporarily for the next 10-12 hours
Hello!
Recently I have been having issues with my phone. I have already tried multiple oreo roms from "The best gaming rom" thread, but none of them worked perfectly for over a month. Every one started to lag, and randomly crash/restart without SIM PIN input (right to the lock screen) when I am not aware of it at all. I am also having issues with camera which almost always crashes, when taking pictures - could it be related to lag? ... Anyway even with custom kernels, clearing cache and many other RAM management (greenify) apps, I am without succes. I own 2/16 model, but I always have at least 300 mb free RAM. Is my phone dying? Could it be NAND storage related?
Best regards!
Try with 1gb or 1.5gb of ZRAM
Ps: do you try update firmware with fastboot?
2gb ram phones just don't cut these days. The UIs these days are becoming very heavy, and too much for 2gigs of ram. Having owned 1 myself. I know they're only good for sometime.
Hey,
I own 3GB model and its lag hell on every oreo ROM. I did little research and come to know that most oreo ROM fails to get deep sleep. I tried Greenify but its not working. Then I check RAM usage and after opening few apps it express 2 GB usage and only 300 to 500 MB free left. So may be this is reason your phone lag on every oreo as It always use up to 2.1 GB RAM (as I remember, before it was around 1.6 GB on nougat)
I've got an aging Redmi Note 3 16GB/2GB RAM that has started lagging. It's just that 2GB RAM phones can't keep up in 2018. Your best bet would be going back to official MIUI 10 or old Nitrogen 7.1.2 Nougat for the 2GB variant.
Thank you for your answers. I guess there's no good ROM for oreo (yet).
+1 for the ones said before me: 2G of RAM is nothing, that was nothing when this phone was launched, sometimes I feel 3G is still not enough for everthing but I would be crazy if I had only 2G of RAM. If you go back to the original miui of RN3, that might be optimizd for the config, but forget any hope for using oreo or pie.
I own a 2gb kenzo, staying on a good N rom with zram at 512 mb, never had lags (I'm not a gamer).
I've sometimes faced some lags in O (rare) and P (more frequent). My impression is that 2gb varian has to run N roms.
Is it still possible to increase the RAM size of the Poco F1? I have the 6gb/128gb variant and I want to have maybe 2 to 4gb more RAM. I read around that it can be done with a swap file on older phones but I already tried that and even added up to 6gb but it doesn't seem to get used. Is there a custom ROM or magisk zip that can be used for that? My phone currently runs on Corvus with NGK.
The reason why I want more RAM? Egg NS. My phone frequently runs out of RAM and the game force closes.
Thanks!
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Is it still possible to increase the RAM size of the Poco F1? I have the 6gb/128gb variant and I want to have maybe 2 to 4gb more RAM. I read around that it can be done with a swap file on older phones but I already tried that and even added up to 6gb but it doesn't seem to get used. Is there a custom ROM or magisk zip that can be used for that? My phone currently runs on Corvus with NGK.
The reason why I want more RAM? Egg NS. My phone frequently runs out of RAM and the game force closes.
Thanks!
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What are these apps and games you use?
How do you fill the entire memory?
I switched to LineageOS + NGK because it's more stable. So far I only have DamonPS2 and Egg NS installed after flashing the ROM. Had no problems with DamonsPS2 even with stock ROM. Anyway, I said before the app in question is Egg NS, a switch emulator. The app needs 8gb RAM so the Poco F1 is short of 2gb that's why it force closes randomly. I get smoother framerates compared to stock but then I still run out of RAM.
Well, short of swapping the DRAM modules for bigger ones it would be impossible, and even then who knows if it would work?
Although now that you've posted this question, I'm left wondering if anyone has successfully done this… I know that Scotty from Strange Parts (and others) have swapped NANDs for bigger storage, but RAM I've never seen.
I think ram is included in the SOC, which means cpu, gpu, controllers, everything else will be also replaced if someone were to upgrade ram, basically changing the core of the phone.
I'm trying to make it work like this one. A really old post from 2012 so I doubt it'll still work for Android 10.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
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I'm trying to make it work like this one. A really old post from 2012 so I doubt it'll still work for Android 10.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
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In that case why don't you try zRAM instead? Depending on the kernel your zRAM (or swap, for that matter) capabilities may differ, but give it a go!
IDK about other kernel utility apps, but EX Manager has the options.
Ok I'll give that one a try. Just tried Roehsoft RAM expander and it still works but the game runs really slow when it's already using the swap memory. At least it doesn't force close now. lol