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hey you all,
I just bought this keyboard from frys for $39 for my media center pc. It has a built in scrolling track pad on the top right. it is about the same length as the gtab. when i plug it into the gtab, keys work but mouse does not. my gtab is still in stock form so mouse may work with all the great roms here.
If you don't have frys around, amazon still have it for $36. just search for hp mini wireless keyboard. there are two type one has a track ball and the one i have has a mouse sensor-like pad.
Mouse cursor isn't enabled on many roms. The only one I know of for gTabs is CyangogenMod.
good to know. maybe i'll try CyangogenMod when i'm brave enough.
I can also confirm that the mouse works on Vegan Beta 2. I was using it last night to play Angry Birds...
dingoberries said:
hey you all,
I just bought this keyboard from frys for $39 for my media center pc. It has a built in scrolling track pad on the top right. it is about the same length as the gtab. when i plug it into the gtab, keys work but mouse does not. my gtab is still in stock form so mouse may work with all the great roms here.
If you don't have frys around, amazon still have it for $36. just search for hp mini wireless keyboard. there are two type one has a track ball and the one i have has a mouse sensor-like pad.
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That is absolutely CRAZY... I had the same keyboard in my hand yesterday then put it back and thought I'd hold off only to have 'non-buyers' remorse later. Of all the smaller keyboards that one looked the nicest and had the mini usb connector so it doesn't stick out too much.
Guess I'll be stopping on the way home
I was hesitant to buy it too, until I realize it uses AA batteries. I have so much of those lying around.
For those interested, the keyboard has a slight angle where the batteries are held at the top, but the rest of the keyboard are like 2-3 mm thhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon9.gifin. Receiver is tiny and can be stored away at the battery compartment.
@KnightCrusader
I was testing the batteries life of my new toy so i decided to install that game, and that stupid birds cost me a whole night sleep.
Question -- I'm only getting 97% charged and light is green. Any of you all get this too?
Logitech Wii Keyboard works great!
I bought this for websurfing on my Wii and never even opened the box. Decided to try it out yesterday on the G-Tab and it rocks.
You can grab one from amazon for 20.00
Usb attachment stores in the back of the keyboard which is nice. Uses 2 AA batteries.
No mouse pad or pointer built in but as a keyboard its great.
Wondering if it can connect through bluetooth like a Wiimote as it has that option. If someone figures that out please let me know. Connecting it through bluetooth would be even cooler than wireless usb!
Cycle the Battery
dingoberries said:
Question -- I'm only getting 97% charged and light is green. Any of you all get this too?
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Try cycling the battery, i.e. run the tablet until it drops, charge it to green+30 minutes, then do it again. Should be ok then. (BTW, it took me over two days to discharge the battery in my gtab, but if you play Angry Birds, you might be able to do it in a day. ).
With my worst Croc Dundee voice:
That is not a mini keyboard, THIS is a mini keyboard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9811255&postcount=13
@mark
Doing the complete cycling now. Stupid tab takes too long to drain.
@rushless
that is not a mini, more like a micro but I do like it. I just need something easier to type and compose with.
hp micro keyboard with gtablet
-Check the review with pic of the HP micro u10g wireless keyboard at bettertoysthanbatman dot com. Works great with my gtab running cyanogen 7.0.0 beta 05. Exact same width as gtab.
Sorry, not allowed to post a clickable link yet.
Cycling the battery didn't work for me. Tried wiping battery data w/CWM. Worked for a while (got to 100%) more often than not but have not really noticed any depreciable run time loss. Using vegan beta1. HTH
I found that my logitect demini works with the gtab
Bought the hp mini wireless keyboard and it works great. The keyboard is simple, stylish, and feels solid. It is about the same length as the gtab and about 4" deep. This keyboard would also be great for an HTPC as well as it has an integrated mouse. The mouse doesn't do anything on the gtab however.
Some of the function keys on the keyboard actually do stuff to the gtab like volume up and down, and screen lock. I mostly plan to use the keyboard in meetings if I have to take notes.
Bought it at Staples in Canada for $40.
I am running Calkulin+Clemsyn3-OC/UV.
poymeister said:
Bought the hp mini wireless keyboard and it works great. The keyboard is simple, stylish, and feels solid. It is about the same length as the gtab and about 4" deep. This keyboard would also be great for an HTPC as well as it has an integrated mouse. The mouse doesn't do anything on the gtab however.
Some of the function keys on the keyboard actually do stuff to the gtab like volume up and down, and screen lock. I mostly plan to use the keyboard in meetings if I have to take notes.
Bought it at Staples in Canada for $40.
I am running Calkulin+Clemsyn3-OC/UV.
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Depends what rom your running. Vegan shows a mouse cursor and includes various shortcut buttons (home = fn+home button, esc = back, windows button= options)
I use a mini-usb GearHead keyboard with a multi-touch touchpad. I've tried it with a couple TnT varients and now with VEGAn 5.1.1 and it works great and the touchpad works for pinch-to-zoom as well. It shows up as a crosshair (not an arrow style cursor).
My only complaint about this keyboard is that it doesn't have a "shift" key on the right side.
I wonder if HP multimedia is still available?
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I bought this for websurfing on my Wii and never even opened the box. Decided to try it out yesterday on the G-Tab and it rocks.
You can grab one from amazon for 20.00
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Is that it ?
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wii-Cordless-Keyboard-Nintendo/dp/B001D1HCF6
not $20 though.
For completeness :
The HP mini
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ils?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1303334611&sr=1-1&seller=
The Gear Head Smart Touch Mini
http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Touch-M...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1303334542&sr=1-2
I have the G Tablet with the Zpad dock running Vegan. Love the ROM and it runs great. I just recently hooked it up via HDMI to my LCD TV (why I waited who knows), but I have a basic question:
Can I turn off the G Tab display while docked?
I want to hook up a bluetooth keyboard and basically pass signal to the TV, and I don't want the unit display on if possible. No big deal, but just wondering if any of you guys have a solution?
Thanks!
Not as far as i know. Im sure somone who knows java could write an app for it.
But why do you want the display off? You could put it in a media cabinet or maybe behind your tv if its the light that bothers you.
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I have the G Tablet with the Zpad dock running Vegan. Love the ROM and it runs great. I just recently hooked it up via HDMI to my LCD TV (why I waited who knows), but I have a basic question:
Can I turn off the G Tab display while docked?
I want to hook up a bluetooth keyboard and basically pass signal to the TV, and I don't want the unit display on if possible. No big deal, but just wondering if any of you guys have a solution?
Thanks!
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can you help me. I have the dock and my gtab (running smooth_bean rom). but when I plugged in the HDMI my tv wouldnt recognize it. what settings do we have to change on the rom so the tv recognizes the tablet??? Thanks
I have tried HDMI out on 3 TVs and it only works on one. The one it works on is the newest one by a few years.
On the other TVs the results range depending oddly on the cable. A $30 Rocketfish cable I purchased for testing and now returned resulted in zero output on the other two TVs. My cheap cable will make some crackling noises and the screen will flicker on and off.
No output at all through my my receiver.
On the third TV... a 2012 model I believe, it works great. I have never had any issues with HDMI out on the other TVs although I only use an older laptop and a PS3.
Any clue what might be going on? Do I have a bad device or are my older TVs not compatible for some reason with the Tegra 3 HDMI out?
Thanks.
I finally got through to Hisense support. Major PITA as they disconnect you after a minute or so of hold time. Not like I expected anything different. Regardless they guy had no idea about any issues.
I'm going to go and buy another from Walmart and see if it has the same issue or not.
Went and bought another one to test the HDMI out with.
Same issue. So this tablet has problems with some TVs. Searching a bit further it seems like some android devices regardless of manufacturer have HDMI out compatibility issues.
Chromecast should hopefully solve this issue anyways.
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Went and bought another one to test the HDMI out with.
Same issue. So this tablet has problems with some TVs. Searching a bit further it seems like some android devices regardless of manufacturer have HDMI out compatibility issues.
Chromecast should hopefully solve this issue anyways.
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Chromecast works great with this tab. Havent tried the hdmi yet.
I've seen some strangeness of a different type. When I plug my Sero 7 Pro in to one of my TVs with a particular cable, the touch screen starts acting funny, meaning a touch registers as a swipe and we'd things like that. Anyone else seeing weirdness like that?
Thanks!
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HDMI issue
I am having an HDMI issue. For me, whenever I connect an HDMI cable to any HDTV and use Adobe PDF Reader while scrolling and zooming in I get all kinds of artifacts and glitches on the tv screen but not the screen of the tablet. I've used two different tvs and they both react in the same way. These jagged lines appear on the screen while zooming and scrolling but disappear right after i lift my finger off the digitizer. I haven't tried many other apps but it seems like its solely Adobe PDF Reader reacting this way. The few other apps I've tried do not react this way.
Would this be caused by...
The tablet itself?
The current software/os version?
The hdmi cable?
The tvs?
Model number: M470BSA
Android version: 4.2.1
Kernel version: 3.1.10
Build version: P756.6.02.11.00
I just bought the tablet a couple days ago and was notified of an update, P756.6.02.20.00. Should i go ahead and apply this update? or has anyone experienced this issue before and found a remedy? Any help regarding this minor but annoying issue would be greatly appreciated.
Different cables with less or more quality is not odd at all really.
I would not be surprised to find out that all your problems are from the cable you used and/or the tv you tried to use and not the tablet.
tripleoptic said:
I have tried HDMI out on 3 TVs and it only works on one. The one it works on is the newest one by a few years.
On the other TVs the results range depending oddly on the cable. A $30 Rocketfish cable I purchased for testing and now returned resulted in zero output on the other two TVs. My cheap cable will make some crackling noises and the screen will flicker on and off.
No output at all through my my receiver.
On the third TV... a 2012 model I believe, it works great. I have never had any issues with HDMI out on the other TVs although I only use an older laptop and a PS3.
Any clue what might be going on? Do I have a bad device or are my older TVs not compatible for some reason with the Tegra 3 HDMI out?
Thanks.
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There are definitely issues with the Sero 7 Pro and older TV's via HDMI out. In my case, I'm lucky enough to get a picture on the screen, however it fails back down to 480p which is just unacceptable.
With that said, there is some hope. The issues that I am experiencing do not seem to be directly tied to a hardware problem, but rather software. Via rooting and trying a custom rom, that is not based off the stock rom, I was able to get a 720p picture on screen though there are other issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46403207&postcount=44
I have a small, cheapo TV that causes problems with my touchscreen whenever I plug in the HDMI cable to my tablet. Plug it into my big Samsung TV and it works great! Weird, eh? The small TV causes the touchscreen to register taps as swipes..
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I have a small, cheapo TV that causes problems with my touchscreen whenever I plug in the HDMI cable to my tablet. Plug it into my big Samsung TV and it works great! Weird, eh? The small TV causes the touchscreen to register taps as swipes..
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The touchscreen being erratic happens on a few of my other older devices with HDMI & MHL connected too. It seems that most of these haven't been tested extensively in this mode. There's a ground connection problem, I remember it was better if I connect a charging cable also, or holding it slightly differently or setting it down when using the touchscreen & HDMI connected.
Erratic screen problems
I almost returned my tablet today. I have three of them and only one exhibited erratic behavior while using HDMI out.
The screen would barely respond to my touches. It would misread and select the wrong things. I couldn't play games or scroll the screens. A mouse would work but not touching the screen.
It turns out the erratic screen problem goes away if I turn off the Sony Playstation 3.
This time I tested it and it is repeatable. I had both the cables plugged into the TV next to each other so now I separated them.
Now that I think of it I remember seeing a video about a guy who thought he had screen problems but it was interference from a nearby computer.
I found the video I remembered of the guy who was having the same problem due to interference from his computer. He demonstrates the erratic screen behavior and says he returned his tablet twice thinking it was faulty.
I can't post the link...oh well. You'll have to look it up.
Are drawing tablets such as Wacom, Intuos, and Huion not compatible with Android tablets in general?
I plugged in a Huion 420 via USB OTG and all I got was a white dot in the middle of the screen. It says that it's connected as a mouse, but it remains fixated at the center with no cursor trailing anywhere else on the screen.
Is it a driver issue? Is there anyway I can get it to work since it has shown to be partially working?
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Are drawing tablets such as Wacom, Intuos, and Huion not compatible with Android tablets in general?
I plugged in a Huion 420 via USB OTG and all I got was a white dot in the middle of the screen. It says that it's connected as a mouse, but it remains fixated at the center with no cursor trailing anywhere else on the screen.
Is it a driver issue? Is there anyway I can get it to work since it has shown to be partially working?
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Well the 'huion 420' which is a good product by the way...I use it all the time but..with mac yup it's only compatible with either pc or mac. You cannot use it with the note pro because it needs certain drivers to work which act as a link between your device and the Cpu so each driver works specifically for a specific hardware otherwise it cannot establish that 'link' so well there is no way for you to connect this with the note pro, however, you could use your tablet as a drawing tablet for your pc (reply if insterested i'll tell you) so well that's it..Glad to help! By the way I use my tablet for drawing using 'Artflow app' its better than 'stock sketchbook' has greater pressure sensitivity, options etc. Check that out too! Thanks for reading!
laobanh said:
Are drawing tablets such as Wacom, Intuos, and Huion not compatible with Android tablets in general?
I plugged in a Huion 420 via USB OTG and all I got was a white dot in the middle of the screen. It says that it's connected as a mouse, but it remains fixated at the center with no cursor trailing anywhere else on the screen.
Is it a driver issue? Is there anyway I can get it to work since it has shown to be partially working?
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I heard that there's an old Intuos small you can plug into Android but now, I dunno if the drivers are still present on recent builds... For sure new tablets doesn't work at all but yes that would be an awesome option indeed.
Not that I know of, no. You could probably use it as a mouse if the tablet has that function, but as an actual drawing tablet, probably not.
I'll try my Wacom Intuos 4L when I get home.
That said, not entirely sure why you'd want to use a Wacom tablet to draw on a tablet that is a Wacom tablet.
Now, using the NotePro as a drawing tablet, that you can do with VirtualTablet. (I do that all the time, incredibly useful.)
XP-Pen Star G430 OSU Graphic Drawing Pen Tablet
Huion 420 Graphics tablet driver can only compatible with Windows a, Linux, mac OS . it doesn't works with Android OS .
I have a XP-Pen Star G430 ( xp-pen.com/goods/show/id/36.html ) OSU Graphic Drawing Pen Tablet , it has 4" x 3" Active Drawing Area . 8192 levels of pen pressure . the stylus is battery-freen and wireless . there is no lag when drawing . Huion 420's Stylus has a batteri which is heavy and need to charge . this is not good .
I really want to edit the deadzones on the ipega 9023 telescopic bluetooth controller. I have seen very little information regarding this gamepad (and if it is even possible to adjust the deadzone successfully at all).
All I know is that I have to edit the .kl file for the ipega 9023, but I can't find the .kl file for this device at all. All I have to go on is the following:
First download root power explorer
Mount rw
Go to root
System/usr/keylayout
Search for your controler id vendor if u cant find it just go through all of them till you find this
# Left and right stick.
# The reported value for flat is 128 out of a range from -32767 to 32768, which is absurd.
# This confuses applications that rely on the flat value because the joystick actually
# settles in a flat range of +/- 4096 or so.
axis 0x00 X flat 4096
axis 0x01 Y flat 4096
axis 0x03 Z flat 4096
axis 0x04 RZ flat 4096
I wnt to the directory above and found nothing for the ipega. I also installed a terminal emulator and typed cat /proc/bus/input/devices to see all connected devices. I saw info on a device called "Broadcom Bluetooth HID" with vendor 1949 product 0402, but I saw no .kl file at all with that vendor id or product id.
Has anyone successfully calibrated the ipega 9023 and edited the deadzones at all? Should I just give up and deal with the deadzones?
Search this thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033780
Just search for your specific controller. I'm sure someone has already configured your controller, also with the correct vendor ID and product ID as they did mine, the file I found also had the Vendor ID as 1949 and the Product ID as 0402, but my controller is the iPega PG-9021.
I also read somewhere in that thread there is a tutorial to make your own .kl file. Worth a look!
Ok, thanks for the info!
Don't bother, the dead zones on the Ipega controllers are hard coded into the microcontroller on the gamepad itself. Yes Android keylayout files can then add their own additional deadzone, which is what you're looking at, but lowering it from 4096 won't do a damn thing because the Ipega's deadzone is already MUCH larger than that.
moeburn said:
Don't bother, the dead zones on the Ipega controllers are hard coded into the microcontroller on the gamepad itself. Yes Android keylayout files can then add their own additional deadzone, which is what you're looking at, but lowering it from 4096 won't do a damn thing because the Ipega's deadzone is already MUCH larger than that.
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yeah, i've been stuck with the same problem also. i've read somewhere that relodering a ps3 analog stick helped with the problem, but not much. i wish there was some way to fix the deadzones, the gamepad would be perfect
lukas.trop said:
yeah, i've been stuck with the same problem also. i've read somewhere that relodering a ps3 analog stick helped with the problem, but not much. i wish there was some way to fix the deadzones, the gamepad would be perfect
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread. New ipega offering on the market. Ipega 9083. Can't find any info on deadzone improvement or changes. Form factor is better than 9023 so maybe they tweaked internals as well. Any one want to gamble?
i threw my 9023 in the bin it was terrible
Canadave1 said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. New ipega offering on the market. Ipega 9083. Can't find any info on deadzone improvement or changes. Form factor is better than 9023 so maybe they tweaked internals as well. Any one want to gamble?
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Hi, just saw this new model myself and was looking for the same info. In the end I finished ordering it since it's not so expensive (which is not really a good sign per se, I should add). Should arrive in about a week, I'll let you know then! Fingers crossed!
Definitely post back. If you don't mind me asking what will you be using it on and what will you be playing?
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Definitely post back. If you don't mind me asking what will you be using it on and what will you be playing?
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It'll be coming from China, so it'll take more than expected (should arrive by the end of the month, I could swear it was a Prime product so I thought it was a next-day deal, but oh well).
The main thing is that I fear it could be a rebrand of another pad I tried in the past, the STG-ONE (look for it on Google) which was utter **** as not only it had the same deadzone troubles, it also didn't record analog sticks clicking (L3 and R3 inputs, in other words) even if the sticks clicked themselves, and bluetooth connectivity was completely unreliable.
Sure it looks identical, but anyway for 30 euros or so it's a test I can undertake.
EDIT: I've tried the STG-ONE again just to be sure and it's not as ****ty as I remembered, the deadzones are a bit better than i remembered (but still difficult to use in aiming for FPS games, tried on Dead Trigger 2), but the L3/R3 thing is a bummer. I'll try again the PG-9023 as soon as it charges enough, to see STG-ONE deadzones are at least better than its ones, or if they're the same.
Plan is to use with my Galaxy Tab S2 with Moonlight to stream PC games on it, the streaming works surprisingly well and is almost completely lag-free (works better on my S9 but i prefer the bigger screen). Also emulators, of course, MAME in particular, but such old games don't usually need analog sticks so the pads I already own are more than enough for them.
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I'll try again the PG-9023 as soon as it charges enough, to see STG-ONE deadzones are at least better than its ones, or if they're the same.
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Tried it. In hindsight, they pretty both suck. Will update when the PG-9083 arrives!
Hello everyone,
so, the PG-9083 arrived a couple days ago, but I've found just now the time to write here.
TL;DR: The analogs still suck, unless you connect the pad with an OTG cable and your phone supports Xbox 360 pads
So as soon as the package arrived I connected the pad to an USB cable coming from my PC, and I noticed the pad got recognized as an Xbox 360 controller. Didn't care much about it at that moment, but it actually was an important detail.
So I bluetooth connect the PG-9083 to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and after many tests the conclusion is that the analog sticks still suck. I even rooted the tablet and tried messing up with the keyboard layout files, but even changing the deadzone settings there didn't improve anything.
Then, I don't even remember why, I connected the PG-9083 directly to the Tab S2 with an OTG cable. The tablet didn't recognize the pad (for some reason Samsung didn't include Xbox 360 gamepad drivers in its Tab S2 and its Galaxy S9, which are the two devices that I own), but then I tried starting Moonlight (which is the main reason I'm interested in an Android pad) which has an internal custom Xbox 360 driver, and lo and behold, it worked like a charm, with the analog sticks performing perfectly.
So some final considerations:
- It seems it's a software problem rather than a hardware one, although it seems to be on the driver level and not on the keyboard layout one
- Even when using the faulty bluetooth mode, I achieved some good results in Shadow of War (again, streaming it from my PC by using Moonlight) by reducing the stick deadzones to zero in the game's settings. Why does it work when changing the settings in-game, but not from the keyboard layout file? No idea!
- Can't exclude it could be some quirk in Samsung devices
- I've tried the OTG method just with Moonlight, can't say if the sticks would be fine also with other apps or with devices that natively support Xbox 360 pads
- The sticks are fine when connected to PC, both via USB (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard Xinput, Xbox 360 pad) and, surprisingly, via bluetooth (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard DirectInput pad, I had to try this with the first Dead Rising since most recent games seem to accept Xinput pads only)
- So which other Android pads can work as an Xbox 360 pad when used via USB? Our old friend the PG-9023 doesn't, and neither the STG-ONE (surprisingly, since the PG-9083 seems a relabel of it). PG-9055 also works via USB (but the USB cable must be placed on the left handle, making it impractical to use when connected). Good old PG-9037 also works via USB. Mars Gaming MGP1, nope.
So I hope this was useful and maybe could shed some light in how Android handles gamepads and maybe inspire someone to write some custom driver to fix everything?
Cheers!
I wanted to post up on this thread that I too just received a pg-9083 and tried it out with my nvidia tablet.
It is exactly as brigcam says. The bluetooth mode on Android has the deadzone issue but the PC usb method does not. I did not try PC Bluetooth or Android OTG.
So who would need to fix this??? I emailed iPega but don't expect a helpful resolution. I will try tincore with a rooted tablet i have to see if it can change the deadzones, but I don't want to root my k1.
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Hello everyone,
so, the PG-9083 arrived a couple days ago, but I've found just now the time to write here.
TL;DR: The analogs still suck, unless you connect the pad with an OTG cable and your phone supports Xbox 360 pads
So as soon as the package arrived I connected the pad to an USB cable coming from my PC, and I noticed the pad got recognized as an Xbox 360 controller. Didn't care much about it at that moment, but it actually was an important detail.
So I bluetooth connect the PG-9083 to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and after many tests the conclusion is that the analog sticks still suck. I even rooted the tablet and tried messing up with the keyboard layout files, but even changing the deadzone settings there didn't improve anything.
Then, I don't even remember why, I connected the PG-9083 directly to the Tab S2 with an OTG cable. The tablet didn't recognize the pad (for some reason Samsung didn't include Xbox 360 gamepad drivers in its Tab S2 and its Galaxy S9, which are the two devices that I own), but then I tried starting Moonlight (which is the main reason I'm interested in an Android pad) which has an internal custom Xbox 360 driver, and lo and behold, it worked like a charm, with the analog sticks performing perfectly.
So some final considerations:
- It seems it's a software problem rather than a hardware one, although it seems to be on the driver level and not on the keyboard layout one
- Even when using the faulty bluetooth mode, I achieved some good results in Shadow of War (again, streaming it from my PC by using Moonlight) by reducing the stick deadzones to zero in the game's settings. Why does it work when changing the settings in-game, but not from the keyboard layout file? No idea!
- Can't exclude it could be some quirk in Samsung devices
- I've tried the OTG method just with Moonlight, can't say if the sticks would be fine also with other apps or with devices that natively support Xbox 360 pads
- The sticks are fine when connected to PC, both via USB (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard Xinput, Xbox 360 pad) and, surprisingly, via bluetooth (in which case the PG-9083 acts as a standard DirectInput pad, I had to try this with the first Dead Rising since most recent games seem to accept Xinput pads only)
- So which other Android pads can work as an Xbox 360 pad when used via USB? Our old friend the PG-9023 doesn't, and neither the STG-ONE (surprisingly, since the PG-9083 seems a relabel of it). PG-9055 also works via USB (but the USB cable must be placed on the left handle, making it impractical to use when connected). Good old PG-9037 also works via USB. Mars Gaming MGP1, nope.
So I hope this was useful and maybe could shed some light in how Android handles gamepads and maybe inspire someone to write some custom driver to fix everything?
Cheers!
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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So, I have tried the Nvidia Controller 2017, and it works great ofc. Don't have any other controllers to try unfortunately.
Other weird things:
1. If I open up my gamepad tester app I can see that the hardware is registering the axis values of the sticks with no deadzone, so the hardware is working properly. So I don't get where in software the deadzone is being enforced. Earlier posters said that changing the .kl files do nothing, and anyways I don't want to root the tablet and lose access to other apps.
2. I connected the controller to my clamshell Nvidia portable and there are no deadzone issues! Admittedly there's no use for the controller in this context but why does it work on this device and not the other??? Is it because of the Android versions?
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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The only reason I can think of is that its trying to emulate a keyboard WASD instead of a joystick or its in some conflict with the keyboard selection when connected via bluetooth. The DS4 controller has no issues with deadzone on the gamepad tester via Bluetooth. Its actualy detected as a wireless gamepad and has a gamepad logo on the bluetooth screen. That being said I can be totally off and android has other issues with bluetooth
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Anyone try an Xbox one or other "good" controller paired to their tablet or phone using bluetooth? In words is the deadzone problem android based foe any controller over bluetooth or specific to the ipega controller?
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Its an ipega issue. With xbone controller over Bluetooth there are no analog stock issues. Games control like being played with gamepad on the PC or console.
I'm now using my Shield K1 with a clip that attaches to my xbone controller. Too bad since I like ipega form factor.
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I see that iPega have released an updated version of the PG-9083 controller. Any improvement with this dead zone issue?
I got the PG-9083S (which I assume is the updated version) this afternoon and the dead zones are massive and not configurable in any way obvious to me. Galaxy Tab S6+, tried a bunch of FPS games with steam link and game pass cloud streaming. Playable but very much still an annoyance with this hardware.