So I have rooted 4 other G3 phones over the last 2 years but they were on older firmware. I have a G3 on 47A and for the life of me cannot get LGUP Tool to recognize the phone. The info on the forum is spread around several diff posts with numerous links. Looking for some help here to get this one downgraded to 10B so I can install TWRP and XDEBB's rom.
jadams161 said:
So I have rooted 4 other G3 phones over the last 2 years but they were on older firmware. I have a G3 on 47A and for the life of me cannot get LGUP Tool to recognize the phone. The info on the forum is spread around several diff posts with numerous links. Looking for some help here to get this one downgraded to 10B so I can install TWRP and XDEBB's rom.
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Kingroot is the only way to root Marshmallow, but I don't even know if you can root 47A that way depending on the model. To see what model number you have, open the back, take out the battery and look at the Model Number on the sticker in the battery compartment. If it ends in a K, you will be unable to downgrade and Kingroot is the only option, but I believe it's been determined that the Kingroot exploit is patched on the K models.
The typical way now for the VS985 G3 is to TOT flash back to 10B and root with Stump on non-K models or Kingroot on 47A. There are some Marshmallow custom ROMs (stock and AOSP) you can flash after downgrading to 10B and flashing the proper bootstack, but that also depends on the model of the phone.
Dammit!! I just bought a used G3 to get away from a locked up VZW phone (I have a S5) . Guess I'll see if I can cancel the order!! Thought 47A was OK, but the K is the killer.....
ridenickel9 said:
Dammit!! I just bought a used G3 to get away from a locked up VZW phone (I have a S5) . Guess I'll see if I can cancel the order!! Thought 47A was OK, but the K is the killer.....
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You SHOULD be able to root 47A. 48A has been confirmed to not be rootable by Kingroot. And 49A will more than likely be the same, unless they made a mistake and included the exploit from 47A back into 49A.
With the K models, you cannot downgrade before Marshmallow, so you will be unable to KDZ or TOT flash back to 10B where you can root with Stump root and install TWRP. TWRP will not work I believe with 47A because you have to be able to flash a prior boot partition, which you can no longer do with the K models of this phone.
iBolski said:
You SHOULD be able to root 47A. 48A has been confirmed to not be rootable by Kingroot. And 49A will more than likely be the same, unless they made a mistake and included the exploit from 47A back into 49A.
With the K models, you cannot downgrade before Marshmallow, so you will be unable to KDZ or TOT flash back to 10B where you can root with Stump root and install TWRP. TWRP will not work I believe with 47A because you have to be able to flash a prior boot partition, which you can no longer do with the K models of this phone.
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Thanks for the info! I guess I'm still out of luck though with no recovery, unless there is another method to back up and apply ROMs. Sorry for my ignorance I have been rooting Samsung (typing on an S3 on MM now) and HTC for years, this was to be my first LG and I seem to have bought a tough model to deal with. All the reading around makes the K model seem like fort knox.
Guess I'll sell it back on Swappa or Amazon when it arrives in a few days...
ridenickel9 said:
Thanks for the info! I guess I'm still out of luck though with no recovery, unless there is another method to back up and apply ROMs. Sorry for my ignorance I have been rooting Samsung (typing on an S3 on MM now) and HTC for years, this was to be my first LG and I seem to have bought a tough model to deal with. All the reading around makes the K model seem like fort knox.
Guess I'll sell it back on Swappa or Amazon when it arrives in a few days...
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Nope. If you are on a K model of the phone (which was released this year I believe), you cannot flash back to 10B which would then allow you to install the bumped TWRP recovery. TWRP is not compatible with the 47/48/49A versions of the software and the K models cannot be flashed back to pre-Marshmallow images (that is, version before 47A).
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I just got this new G3 and i update now its 11c is there a root i would really like to root it please help
Could you always flash back to 10b and then root? I took the update a few days ago went back to 10b so my Foxfi works. Just hope I dont have to take the update later. This is what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Yes, drop back to 10b, root, then figure out what you want to do. In my case I applied the modem, boot, and system files from 11c, but did not try to apply the ota directly.
I would flash back to 10b. Then root with Stump, Bump it so TWRP recovery will be accessible. Then download Beanstown 11c rom and flash it. You will then be on the latest version without worrying about ota updates breaking root.
Just wait for the developers to release the updates from here on or you will risk losing root and unlocked bootloader.
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
Later on, no telling how much later yet, replacement phones will come with Lollipop preinstalled. At that point there might be no way to root and bump at all, because rolling back to v10b might be blocked.
Point is, if you need access to your phone as if you really owned it yourself, get it now and protect it best you can. Things are changing.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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How did you roll back to 10b? With 11c you can't get the phone into download mode. I tried it and followed the instructions to the t and all I got was a battery charging screen. I'm not a noob.
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You have to use the KDZ method. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Downgrade From VS98511C to VS98510B (Stock)
ride5000 said:
sadly, after getting a replacement phone, i am in this boat now as well.
loved what stump did for my old one, just need root access for ti and such.
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Hey I accidentally took the update and thought I was outta luck. But I was able to downgrade back to stock then use Stump to root. Go here. Worked great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
Once y'all kdz back to 10b flash a 11c rom. There's 2 to choose from. Jasmine and beanstown. I got Jasmine running. Its a beast. I also recommend the sky kernel in the og dev section. Really helps with battery.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... I thought stump auto installed TWRP? I'm new to Lg... came from an S4..... so I'm not very familiar with downgrading from 11c-10b but I'm slowly figuring it out through multiple forums.... I'm still not sure wth bumping TWRP is though.... I just want to get into CM12 eventually... lol
Edit: N/m I was thinking of BUMP..... damn YouTube videos making me confused at times...
Bump does not install on your phone itself or make any changes to your phone. Stuff like TWRP must be changed slightly by their developers to make them appear signed so they will load - bumpD does that. To the things you are flashing once rooted via Stump or ioRoot or PurpleDrake.
You don't use bumpD yourself, you flash images that have been bumpD.
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Hey, everyone,
I am new to LG android devices with my G3, and everything I found regarding rooting my new phone says that ioroot, stumproot, and even towel root should work, but none of them have. in ioroot, I ran the batch file and nothing happened. my device did not go into recovery like it was supposed to. Stump just said "sorry, your device is patched", and Towel root, which I had used on my GS5 flawlessly said that my G3 was not supported. I reeeeaaaly want to get mine and my wifes G3s rooted, but nothing is working. Please help!
The root methods only work on the original 10b software release.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Make sure to read the first two posts at least.
I believe both methods of getting back to 10b still work as of the current, 12b, VZW software. The kdz approach is supposed to be simpler, and works with more PCs, but only gets you back to a pre-release 10b. I'd use that approach if I absolutely planned to do a custom recovery (Bump'd twrp) and turned off over-the-air updates.
If you want to take the OTA up through 12b, use the second, tot, approach. Beats me what has to be done to preserve root (might be a SuperSU setting?).
I was an early G3 person, immediately rooted 10b when ioroot came out, froze "System updates..." (VZW's OTA app -- called "LGDMSClient" in /system/app), then individually applied the 12c update images (.img files -- there's a thread on that).
Good luck -- an excellent phone!
markfm said:
The root methods only work on the original 10b software release.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Make sure to read the first two posts at least.
I believe both methods of getting back to 10b still work as of the current, 12b, VZW software. The kdz approach is supposed to be simpler, and works with more PCs, but only gets you back to a pre-release 10b. I'd use that approach if I absolutely planned to do a custom recovery (Bump'd twrp) and turned off over-the-air updates.
If you want to take the OTA up through 12b, use the second, tot, approach. Beats me what has to be done to preserve root (might be a SuperSU setting?).
I was an early G3 person, immediately rooted 10b when ioroot came out, froze "System updates..." (VZW's OTA app -- called "LGDMSClient" in /system/app), then individually applied the 12c update images (.img files -- there's a thread on that).
Good luck -- an excellent phone!
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Thank you! I came from a SGS5 and I am loving this phone so far. There seems to be some differences in the root methods for Sammy and LG devices. Lol I will give this a shot. I'm sure it'll all work out fine.
I found this one click root tutorial for my phone on ibtimes website (can't post the link because I'm a new member) but it's for Lollipop. Will it work for Marshmallow 6.0 (software version 47A)? I'm afraid it will brick my phone (again - my last phone was a G2 that I bricked from enabling 16-bit transparency to improve performance)
If it doesn't, how can I root it and install custom recovery? I can't find a root for this phone on Marshmallow, and I don't know how to roll back to Lollipop.
I am willing to factory reset if I need to.
Hi! Google for the TOT method, in order to flash the 10B TOT from a Windows PC. You can find the 10B TOT and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ at my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or the first thread in my signature below. The thread itself is for the KDZ method which is why I say you'll have to Google for the TOT instructions. Even if you find TOT instructions for another device, the method should be identical or very similar, just using a different TOT file and .DLL than the ones they specify.
In case you're wondering, from stock unrooted 35B or higher you can only flash the 35B or higher KDZ.
Once you're on 10B, root using the Stump app (again, Google for it), then install TWRP Manager from the Play Store and use that to flash the latest TWRP. Reboot to TWRP, then if you want to be back on stock but rooted and optionally debloated 47A Marshmallow, flash the 35B Bootstack that you can get from @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 thread in the Development section, then flash his stock 47A firmware also in that section, and any optional debloat zips from the third post of the 47A firmware thread or my signature below, and Xposed if you want, etc.
Rooting gets more difficult after 10B, and putting TWRP gets harder after 12B.
Flashing the 10B TOT will wipe all your user apps, user and system data, and your internal storage and put it back to 100% stock KitKat.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi! Google for the TOT method, in order to flash the 10B TOT from a Windows PC. You can find the 10B TOT and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ at my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or the first thread in my signature below. The thread itself is for the KDZ method which is why I say you'll have to Google for the TOT instructions. Even if you find TOT instructions for another device, the method should be identical or very similar, just using a different TOT file and .DLL than the ones they specify.
In case you're wondering, from stock unrooted 35B or higher you can only flash the 35B or higher KDZ.
Once you're on 10B, root using the Stump app (again, Google for it), then install TWRP Manager from the Play Store and use that to flash the latest TWRP. Reboot to TWRP, then if you want to be back on stock but rooted and optionally debloated 47A Marshmallow, flash the 35B Bootstack that you can get from @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 thread in the Development section, then flash his stock 47A firmware also in that section, and any optional debloat zips from the third post of the 47A firmware thread or my signature below, and Xposed if you want, etc.
Rooting gets more difficult after 10B, and putting TWRP gets harder after 12B.
Flashing the 10B TOT will wipe all your user apps, user and system data, and your internal storage and put it back to 100% stock KitKat.
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Thanks. I'll try to do this next time I have WiFi access.
Dangers in downgrading newer G3?
Though I have successfully done in the past, the last time I tried to flash my G3 down to 10b, the IMEI got reset to all zeros, and even after finding a tool to reset the IMEI, it would never reliably connect to the network. I have no idea what I did differently this time.
I was fortunate to be able to get the phone replaced, but I'm hesitant to flash it again just for the few things I want root for.
I've seen reports on other forums of others having problems with downgrading "newer G3s."
Does anyone here have any knowledge of such problems?
I wish Kingroot wasn't apparently at war with the SuperSu-Me folks.
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Though I have successfully done in the past, the last time I tried to flash my G3 down to 10b, the IMEI got reset to all zeros, and even after finding a tool to reset the IMEI, it would never reliably connect to the network. I have no idea what I did differently this time.
I was fortunate to be able to get the phone replaced, but I'm hesitant to flash it again just for the few things I want root for.
I've seen reports on other forums of others having problems with downgrading "newer G3s."
Does anyone here have any knowledge of such problems?
I wish Kingroot wasn't apparently at war with the SuperSu-Me folks.
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Thanks for the warning. Luckily I was hesitant to do that and I decided not to root my phone. However, yesterday my screen started messing up - it occasionally flickers off and freezes and fades out, and usually if I turn the screen off and put a little pressure on the back for the phone, it works again for a couple hours. I don't know how long my screen will last, if this means it's dying for good. I found a post about it on reddit where a bunch of people with the VS985 had the same problem, and after sending it in, replacing the screen and connections didn't work, so they thought it was an issue with the main board. So I think I'm going to get a new phone, and then I'll be able to mess around with this without worrying about breaking it since I got a new phone.
But I don't want to get another G3 because I don't want to get this problem again. I only have about $340 to spend on a new phone, and am thinking about getting a refurbished G4 or Nexus phone.
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millicow said:
I found this one click root tutorial for my phone on ibtimes website (can't post the link because I'm a new member) but it's for Lollipop. Will it work for Marshmallow 6.0 (software version 47A)? I'm afraid it will brick my phone (again - my last phone was a G2 that I bricked from enabling 16-bit transparency to improve performance)
If it doesn't, how can I root it and install custom recovery? I can't find a root for this phone on Marshmallow, and I don't know how to roll back to Lollipop.
I am willing to factory reset if I need to.
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Hi,
I'm using a verizon lg g3 and came from a lg g2 . With marshmallow and I'm looking for root.I've looked around last night and confused on how to go about this.I don't wanna mess up the phone.can someone Point me in the right direction? Thanks.
russ722 said:
Hi,
I'm using a verizon lg g3 and came from a lg g2 . With marshmallow and I'm looking for root.I've looked around last night and confused on how to go about this.I don't wanna mess up the phone.can someone Point me in the right direction? Thanks.
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The only way to root MM on the G3 is with Kingroot. It requires you are connected to the internet and after you root, if you reboot, you have to re-root again. It cannot keep root over re-boots. Many do not trust the validity of Kingroot since it's from China and requires you to be connected to the internet and no one has any idea as to what type of info, if any, it's sending or to where.
Depending on the version of G3 you have, you can downgrade to 10b and root via Stump root which is permanent and is the preferred way to root. But, once rooted, things like Android Pay and NFL Mobile will no longer work.
If you wish to downgrade to 10b, you need to first open up the back of your phone, remove the battery and see what version of the VS985 you have. If it's model number ends in a K (such as VS985K, or VS985WK), you CANNOT downgrade and your only option to root is Kingroot.
If, however, your model number does NOT end in a K, then you can downgrade to 10b and root. Follow these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-downgrade-to-10b-t3354834
As for Kingroot, I don't use it and never have and never will, so I can't give you much more info on it other than to search for it on Google.
iBolski said:
The only way to root MM on the G3 is with Kingroot. It requires you are connected to the internet and after you root, if you reboot, you have to re-root again. It cannot keep root over re-boots. Many do not trust the validity of Kingroot since it's from China and requires you to be connected to the internet and no one has any idea as to what type of info, if any, it's sending or to where.
Depending on the version of G3 you have, you can downgrade to 10b and root via Stump root which is permanent and is the preferred way to root. But, once rooted, things like Android Pay and NFL Mobile will no longer work.
If you wish to downgrade to 10b, you need to first open up the back of your phone, remove the battery and see what version of the VS985 you have. If it's model number ends in a K (such as VS985K, or VS985WK), you CANNOT downgrade and your only option to root is Kingroot.
If, however, your model number does NOT end in a K, then you can downgrade to 10b and root. Follow these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-downgrade-to-10b-t3354834
As for Kingroot, I don't use it and never have and never will, so I can't give you much more info on it other than to search for it on Google.
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Thank you very much this clears everything up.
Ok just checked and,model # shows vs985 no k at end of model number
iBolski said:
The only way to root MM on the G3 is with Kingroot. It requires you are connected to the internet and after you root, if you reboot, you have to re-root again. It cannot keep root over re-boots. Many do not trust the validity of Kingroot since it's from China and requires you to be connected to the internet and no one has any idea as to what type of info, if any, it's sending or to where.
Depending on the version of G3 you have, you can downgrade to 10b and root via Stump root which is permanent and is the preferred way to root. But, once rooted, things like Android Pay and NFL Mobile will no longer work.
If you wish to downgrade to 10b, you need to first open up the back of your phone, remove the battery and see what version of the VS985 you have. If it's model number ends in a K (such as VS985K, or VS985WK), you CANNOT downgrade and your only option to root is Kingroot.
If, however, your model number does NOT end in a K, then you can downgrade to 10b and root. Follow these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-downgrade-to-10b-t3354834
As for Kingroot, I don't use it and never have and never will, so I can't give you much more info on it other than to search for it on Google.
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Is there a way of reverting using .odd files only? Never done for files and seems like more trouble.
russ722 said:
Is there a way of reverting using .odd files only? Never done for files and seems like more trouble.
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The only way is to use TOT to flash back to 10b so you can then use Stump Root. No other root works for MM other than Kingroot.
Don't know what .odd files are.
Sorry. That's supposed to be .kdz...I'm up and running 10b now.thanks. what are some good rims out there with decent battery life?
russ722 said:
Sorry. That's supposed to be .kdz...I'm up and running 10b now.thanks. what are some good rims out there with decent battery life?
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@xdabbeb 's VS985 v3.1.1 based on 48A Marshmallow in the Development section.
FYI, if you ever encounter a problem, TOTs fix more problems than KDZs because TOTs contain and flash more partitions. I've actually personally experienced it. Now I use TOT whenever I downgrade to start fresh. Note that from recent rooted ROMs I often have to flash any KDZ first, and then I can flash the TOT.
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@xdabbeb 's VS985 v3.1.1 based on 48A Marshmallow in the Development section.
FYI, if you ever encounter a problem, TOTs fix more problems than KDZs because TOTs contain and flash more partitions. I've actually personally experienced it. Now I use TOT whenever I downgrade to start fresh. Note that from recent rooted ROMs I often have to flash any KDZ first, and then I can flash the TOT.
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Thank you for the help. I've downloaded that firmware and bootstacks but I'm confused how to proceed. I'm on 10b now do I flash the 35b bootstack or the 12b then the Rom?
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Thank you for the help. I've downloaded that firmware and bootstacks but I'm confused how to proceed. I'm on 10b now do I flash the 35b bootstack or the 12b then the Rom?
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Just follow the directions to install in the first post of the @xdabbeb VS985 v3.1.1 ROM thread.
From that first post that's confusing me ...
Peform a full nandroid backup.
Flash the 35B bootstack zip found below.
I have provided 12b and 24b bootstack zips for use with other firmware.(this part confuses me)
So I just flash th 35b ?
Thank,you for all your,help.
russ722 said:
From that first post that's confusing me ...
Peform a full nandroid backup.
Flash the 35B bootstack zip found below.
I have provided 12b and 24b bootstack zips for use with other firmware.(this part confuses me)
So I just flash th 35b ?
Thank,you for all your,help.
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Answered in the other thread you asked in. Please don't post the same question in multiple places.
Hello and good day,
Just got my new almost mint condition LG G3 VS985, this is a replacement for my Old D851 but as far as I start using it I just realize how different this new baby is from my previous loved one starting with the locked Bootloader, then I realize Im not able to download any Ota, this baby came with 47A, so I downgrade to 10B, everything is running great with KitKat but so far Im not able to update for any way using OTA or even LG Update tool is not able to recognize the phone, so Im kind of jammed in 10B.
Then I root it and install TWRP, my question is if I install TOT file with 10B version, Will I ever be able to download OTA over my At&T Network In Mexico? If not, is there any specific version you suggest me to stay On, I like stock but I have bloatware, also is there any Debloated Stock ROM such some for the D851?
Othe weird situation is that Im not able to enter download mode, Is there any chance this phone was a clone G3?
As I said this came with 47A, LGUP was able to downgrade to 10B so Im not sure what can be wrong.