[Q] G5 really slow when sim card inserted - LG G5 Questions & Answers

Have migrated a lot of stuff from my S5 901F to the G5 using a LG stock rom.
Most stuff is equal to the 901F or faster in performance, however chompsms is for some reason slower, and not just slower but very noticebly slower, my old galaxy ace is faster using chompsms.
e.g. to load messages from my sister the times are analysed as below using video recordings.
S5 901F 0.2s
Galaxy ace 0.9s
G5 3.7s - yes over 3 seconds
If I do it repeatedly it doesnt speed up, so its not even faster when expected due to caching.
If I force the cpu clock at min speeds on my 901F at 300mhz, it is still faster at 2.1s.
crazy, any ideas?

Try Textra maybe? For me it's always intstantaneous. I used Chomp SMS in gingerbread days, but at some point QKSMS and then Textra won.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra&hl=en (Lot's of customisation).

Thanks but that seems a bit of a copout, chompsms isnt the problem. Also I am now noticing more apps/functions are laggier, in some cases way laggier.
The more I use the phone the slower I am noticing it is. Something isnt right, either snapdragon 820 isnt actually faster than 805 for real world use (made to just bench fast) or something is seriously screwed with LG's firmware. To boot it drains 3x as fast when sleeping as well.
Its bad enough I am considering selling the G5, but I can see from comparing screens that my S5 is developing a tint on light colours suggesting the amoled is wearing down, so I am still trying to get it fast. I even seen a video comparing the exynos to the 820 on the s7 and the 820 had issues on that phone as well.
What I like?
usb-c, defenitly better than micro usb.
Always on clock, is very nice.
Speaker placement, also very nice not been at the back.
Better multitasking.
Issues.
Performance, scrolling will randomly stutter, some stuff is just very slow, also wireless is struggling to keep at max strength even tho the router is 1m away and the s5 sitting next to the g5 has full wifi speed all the time.
Display viewing angles, is pretty poor, of course I have been spoilt by amoled.
Back power button feels sometimes not a smooth click and sort of like it will break soon.
Edges of phone not smooth with sharp edges here and there - mitigated by my gel cover tho.
Missing features that are nice in touchwiz such as 2g only mode, silent notifications (not silent mode I mean actual notifications called silent), auto redial when engaged. I downloaded a silent.mp3 file to readd silent notifications/ringtones, 2g only mode I can select with intelli3g but I have to manually set it on boot up which is annoying. No solution for auto redial yet.
Wifi internet keeps dieing, wifi will stay connected but dns lookups start failing, comes back to life when manually reconnecting. No other devices in my home are having this issue.
Oddity
For some reason by default LG configures a 900+meg ram disk for swap, when I dont see the point as with 4 gig of ram nothing needs swapping.
No cpu cores turn off, like the 901f cores do which may explain why phone feels warm when using (even for texting) and faster drain. The big/little cpu core system seems to feel inferior to a normal set of 4 cores.

ok I have found the cause but its weird.
Basically if I remove the sim card, chompsms is snappy, and other apps that lagged also go fast.
Insert sim card it lags again.
Also if I disable AOD the battery life is only slightly worse than the S5.
AOD on auto sync off, amplify, greenify optimised, doze off - average 0.4% drain per hour
As above but S5 - 0.3% hour.
As above but with AOD on with G5 1.3% hour
With the IPS backlight bleed, I can see the entire screen is been powered for the AOD, so seems a poor design in regards to battery efficiency.
12 hours ago I had made the decision to send the phone back to EE, now I have made progress on the lag, I am back in dont know mode. I definitely do prefer amoled, IPS viewing angles and bad blacks are annoying, the AOD is brilliant but is a price to pay for battery life and I dont know about the affect on IPS backlight life with it been always powered up. The power button positioning doesnt make sense, e.g. if the phone is on my desk I have to pick it up to use the power button which is annoying.

chrcol said:
ok I have found the cause but its weird.
Basically if I remove the sim card, chompsms is snappy, and other apps that lagged also go fast.
Insert sim card it lags again.
Also if I disable AOD the battery life is only slightly worse than the S5.
AOD on auto sync off, amplify, greenify optimised, doze off - average 0.4% drain per hour
As above but S5 - 0.3% hour.
As above but with AOD on with G5 1.3% hour
With the IPS backlight bleed, I can see the entire screen is been powered for the AOD, so seems a poor design in regards to battery efficiency.
12 hours ago I had made the decision to send the phone back to EE, now I have made progress on the lag, I am back in dont know mode. I definitely do prefer amoled, IPS viewing angles and bad blacks are annoying, the AOD is brilliant but is a price to pay for battery life and I dont know about the affect on IPS backlight life with it been always powered up. The power button positioning doesnt make sense, e.g. if the phone is on my desk I have to pick it up to use the power button which is annoying.
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Try Next Sms, it has more features then any Sms. Power button good for out of pocket. For situations like yours use double tap to wake screen up
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Nick216ohio said:
Try Next Sms, it has more features then any Sms. Power button good for out of pocket. For situations like yours use double tap to wake screen up
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I think you ignoring the problem, my issue is not chompsms.
It is that the phone slows down significantly when my sim card is inserted.
e.g.
no sim
better battery stats to browse kernel wakelocks and partial wake locks instant
chomp sms to browse text messages instant
with sim inserted
chompsms slow
stock messaging app slow
better battery stats to browse wakelocks about a 4 second pause - this doesnt even read text messages and also affected
the weird stuttery behaviour vanishes when sim is removed
so something is broken in the firmware that when a sim card is inserted the phone runs slower.
I also found a nasty bug in the interactive governor on stock kernel (also exists on xperience custom kernel). The clock will keep staying at highspeed value and not idle well. I fixed this by setting highspeed to same as idle clock but this is a seperate issue and no relation to the big sim card problem.
When sim card is inserted my 7 year old galaxy ace is a faster phone
EE have a 14 day returns policy, today is day 8, so I got 2-3 days to try and find a fix or I am returning phone.
The issue happens with locked bootloader and shipped firmware as well.
I edited title now so not confusing.

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Will the people that get awesome battery life share what they are running?

I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
nrfitchett4 said:
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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SightSeeker said:
This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
SightSeeker said:
This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
destro158 said:
That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.

[Q] Battery drain, baseband and home lag: is that the real S3?!

Hi all,
first of all, I'm not a fan boy of any kind. I've been using so many android devices in the last years, I'm more of a tech fanboy then a <brand>fanboy.
Given that, I'm not soddisfied at all with S3: reading and viewing so many preview and review of this phone, I though it will last more than one day and that it would be fast as hell and lag free, at least, this is what everyone is saying in every damned review I saw/read.
I had in these passed 6 month: gaalxy s2, sensation, galaxy note, sensation xe, galacy nexus and right now htc one x and sgs3.
Well, the sgs3 is not so much better as everyone is saying, in particular, is not better at all of htc one x as every comparison review is stating.
What's up? Is that just me or what? My sgs3, with the same operator's sim is lasting less than htc one x and it's not fluid at all, at least while scrolling through homes!!! Of course, even the one x has some microlagging while scrolling through homes, but I though sgs3 would have no lag at all.
Does anyone else see it?
What it's really strange dealing with battery drain, is that the phone drains a lot even while in standby. The first voice in my battery stats is phone cellular stanby? How can it drain more than the screen???
Any "smart" answer is very appreciated, but please, avoid phrases like "you got a lemon, change it": what I'm saying it's not that it lasts me4 hours, I can get through the whole day with sgs3. But it does not last more than one day as everyone is stating! I mean: I get 17h unplugged with 3h screen on, it's on par with all the other phones I had...but not with Galaxy note or One X, they really last more than one day.
Thanks
Can you make a video of the lag so that we can see what you're experiencing? because I and most people have a smooth interface so maybe an app or your setup is causing problems?
Regarding the battery life, I got something like 22 hours with 5 hours screen-on (screenshot in battery life thread in general) and that was with pretty heavy usage - games, videos, web browsing. But you're right there's definitely high cell standby drain in the current firmware. Hopefully it can be fixed. Also, there's an led notification app, can't remember what it's called, that has a bug that drains the battery on the gs3. See the battery life thread in general for more info.
jonathanyong said:
Can you make a video of the lag so that we can see what you're experiencing? because I and most people have a smooth interface so maybe an app or your setup is causing problems?
Regarding the battery life, I got something like 22 hours with 5 hours screen-on (screenshot in battery life thread in general) and that was with pretty heavy usage - games, videos, web browsing. But you're right there's definitely high cell standby drain in the current firmware. Hopefully it can be fixed. Also, there's an led notification app, can't remember what it's called, that has a bug that drains the battery on the gs3. See the battery life thread in general for more info.
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Hi, first of all, thanks for your answer. I'm not talking about huge lag, but the tipical microlag that you get while scrolling through homes in every android phone up to nowdays. I got some microlag while scrolling on HTC One X too.
If I can I will upload something tonite.
Your battery stats is great: 22h with 5h screen-on is a very good result. Do you use data connection always on? How many charge cycle did you perform?
Anyway, no, I'm not using light flow as my phone is still on stock rom, no mod yet!
TIA
Yeh wifi and 3g always on. here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26864539#post26864539
But even with the good results I'm getting, I don't think the phone would last 2 days because of the high cell standby drain. Its definitely a problem that needs to be fixed.
Regarding the lag. I get UI framerate drops in the following:
- Task switcher if there are a lot of apps open
- Browser bookmarks with thumbnails enabled
But they're the only areas that I've noticed have noticeable fps drops. Another annoying thing is for example the ABCDEF... list to the right of the contacts list, it seems to take a second or so to become responsive when you start dragging your finger down it, kinda spoils the experience.
Also, touchwiz launcher seems to need to reload when RAM gets used up.
So yeh it's not perfect but overall it's lightning fast and battery life is superb. Will be even better with software updates
I'm getting 1day 5 hours with 7 hours screen on and minimal standby drain.
The only lag I experience is 'sticky' vertical scrolling.
I did drop touchwiz in favor of go launcher but that was only because I found it too boring.
So far this phone has more than lived up to my expectations.
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jonathanyong said:
Yeh wifi and 3g always on. here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26864539#post26864539
But even with the good results I'm getting, I don't think the phone would last 2 days because of the high cell standby drain. Its definitely a problem that needs to be fixed.
Regarding the lag. I get UI framerate drops in the following:
- Task switcher if there are a lot of apps open
- Browser bookmarks with thumbnails enabled
But they're the only areas that I've noticed have noticeable fps drops. Another annoying thing is for example the ABCDEF... list to the right of the contacts list, it seems to take a second or so to become responsive when you start dragging your finger down it, kinda spoils the experience.
Also, touchwiz launcher seems to need to reload when RAM gets used up.
So yeh it's not perfect but overall it's lightning fast and battery life is superb. Will be even better with software updates
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Do you mean you have no lag at all (neither a micro lag) when scrolling through homes?
Yes, noticed the launcher reload sometimes.
I don't know, maybe it's just me 'cause I had so many phones and in particular an HTC One X to compare it with? I don't find it any faster than one x but in web browser, nor it lasts more than one x! :/
corrsea said:
I'm getting 1day 5 hours with 7 hours screen on and minimal standby drain.
The only lag I experience is 'sticky' vertical scrolling.
I did drop touchwiz in favor of go launcher but that was only because I found it too boring.
So far this phone has more than lived up to my expectations.
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Wondeful battery stats. Lucky you or unlucky me?
Do you use 3G data always on?
Just curious: which mobile phone do you have before buying the s3?!?!
Aratheba said:
Do you mean you have no lag at all (neither a micro lag) when scrolling through homes?
Yes, noticed the launcher reload sometimes.
I don't know, maybe it's just me 'cause I had so many phones and in particular an HTC One X to compare it with? I don't find it any faster than one x but in web browser, nor it lasts more than one x! :/
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No noticeable fps drops when swiping through the home screens no. I only have widgets on 4 pages though so will try adding more and see if that makes a difference.
I also owned a hox (tegra3) but returned it because of the bad battery life and laggy browsing (tried lots of 3rd party browsers too) and ui fps drops, overheating and screen flex.
I had a hd2 and had managed to get pretty good battery life on it as well.
I find a lot of little things add up.
I let very few apps sync.
I have black or dark backgrounds wherever possible.
I don't use haptic feedback.
I only use gsm unless I'm actually doing something that requires more speed but I do have data always on.
I switch WiFi and GPS off when not in use.
I use auto brightness.
I use betterbatterystats and battery monitor pro to keep an eye on things.
I avoid battery savings apps like the plague as they invariably increase battery drain.
Hope some of these help.
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No noticeable fps drops when swiping through the home screens no. I only have widgets on 4 pages though so will try adding more and see if that makes a difference.
I also owned a hox (tegra3) but returned it because of the bad battery life and laggy browsing (tried lots of 3rd party browsers too) and ui fps drops, overheating and screen flex.
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That's funny, I have a tegra 3 One X and I have none of the problem you had, or, at least:
- first one x rom was quite laggy, now it's much better, on par with s3, but always with some microlag
- no overheat but when playing heavy games like shadowgun, while s3 gets really hot even when just surfing
- very decent battery life, better than s3
- no screen flex
- no laggy browser until flash player is on demand
Oh well, maybe my One X is an S3 and the S3 is a One X!?!?
Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
corrsea said:
I had a hd2 and had managed to get pretty good battery life on it as well.
I find a lot of little things add up.
I let very few apps sync.
I have black or dark backgrounds wherever possible.
I don't use haptic feedback.
I only use gsm unless I'm actually doing something that requires more speed but I do have data always on.
I switch WiFi and GPS off when not in use.
I use auto brightness.
I use betterbatterystats and battery monitor pro to keep an eye on things.
I avoid battery savings apps like the plague as they invariably increase battery drain.
Hope some of these help.
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I have several app syncing (4 gmail account, 1 yahoo account and 1 exchange account, everyone along with its calendar part), twitter every 30 min, beautiful widget weather every 1h. GPS always on, 3g data always on. Auto brightness on all the time.
I see, using gsm only, no gps and few apps syncing really extend battery life, but I want to be able to fully use my phone. Moreover, both One X and S3 have the same apps, the same account synced and almost the same widgets (sense one apart), but One X last longer!
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Also, touchwiz launcher seems to need to reload when RAM gets used up.
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For those who are rooted, just go to /system/build.prop and change the dalvik size from 256m to 128m
Seems that it helps to solve this issue...
Aratheba said:
Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
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I have widgets on all 5 pages and absolutely no at all (scroll it fast or slow or go superfast, no lag whatsoever!)
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I have widgets on all 5 pages and absolutely no at all (scroll it fast or slow or go superfast, no lag whatsoever!)
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Do you only have 5 pages? Why have I got 7?
Anyway I placed widgets on all 7 pages and swiped really fast and have no lag or fps drops whatsoever. Maybe a particular widget is causing the problem?
I found using the live wallpapers caused my home screen to reload and caused lag. Since changing to a static wallpaper everything has been nice and quick with no re-drawing
Sorry, double post!
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I found using the live wallpapers caused my home screen to reload and caused lag. Since changing to a static wallpaper everything has been nice and quick with no re-drawing
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Of course, I've already tried everything I could in order to lessen the lag: I'm using a static wallpaper, but micro lag is there. Maybe it's ust a matter of defying what microlag is: if I do scroll fast through home pages I have some microlag, I can see the animation is not completely fluid.
I have the following widgets: beautiful widget clock 4x1 (but I tried even with samsung standard plain digital clock), google search widget, music widget, stock ics calendar widget, plume (but I even tried with the static official twitter widget), photo gallery widget, weather pro widget.
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Of course, I've already tried everything I could in order to lessen the lag: I'm using a static wallpaper, but micro lag is there. Maybe it's ust a matter of defying what microlag is: if I do scroll fast through home pages I have some microlag, I can see the animation is not completely fluid.
I have the following widgets: beautiful widget clock 4x1 (but I tried even with samsung standard plain digital clock), google search widget, music widget, stock ics calendar widget, plume (but I even tried with the static official twitter widget), photo gallery widget, weather pro widget.
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Personally worked for me so I thought I'd see if it helped
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That's funny, I have a tegra 3 One X and I have none of the problem you had, or, at least:
- first one x rom was quite laggy, now it's much better, on par with s3, but always with some microlag
- no overheat but when playing heavy games like shadowgun, while s3 gets really hot even when just surfing
- very decent battery life, better than s3
- no screen flex
- no laggy browser until flash player is on demand
Oh well, maybe my One X is an S3 and the S3 is a One X!?!?
Joking apart, you can notice microlag when you scroll very fast through homes both on One X and on S3. I have 5 pages and widget on every page on both phones.
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My phone is stone cold while surfing
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
One more thing: using SpyCPU I saw that sgs3 it's for 70% of its total standby time in deep sleep, while one x it's for 80%. Moreover, one x has more states with low CPU freq (100mhz, 70, 50) while sgs3 has 400mhz as lower freq used state, 300 and 200 are unused. :/
I guess that the Tegra companion core going so low in frequencies...

Some thoughts on G3

Overall I like the phone, but I have a few gripes. Maybe some of you agree, and maybe some of you know some solutions.
Much better than the Xperia z3v I had at first. The Xperia had a few odd things about it that bugged me, and the lack of root was getting to me. That is what made me switch.
But it did have much better battery life... I would have 50 to 60 percent battery when I returned home, the G3 will be below 20 percent most days.
The keyboard has a one handed mode, but its prediction and correction are not good. I somehow miss the space key and get run on words all the time, it's been a little frustrating. I know of no third party apps that have a one hand mode though.
The auto brightness is better than the Xperia but still not as good as it can be, it requires too much attention. It limits it's range and trays to be adjustable but it doesn't work well.
Its size has put it over my comfortable one handed use size. The one handed mode helps a bit though. Can't really do much about that. It seems to be the trend.
Its close to being a great phone but held back a bit. Maybe there are solutions to most of my woes.
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Overall I like the phone, but I have a few gripes. Maybe some of you agree, and maybe some of you know some solutions.
Much better than the Xperia z3v I had at first. The Xperia had a few odd things about it that bugged me, and the lack of root was getting to me. That is what made me switch.
But it did have much better battery life... I would have 50 to 60 percent battery when I returned home, the G3 will be below 20 percent most days.
The keyboard has a one handed mode, but its prediction and correction are not good. I somehow miss the space key and get run on words all the time, it's been a little frustrating. I know of no third party apps that have a one hand mode though.
The auto brightness is better than the Xperia but still not as good as it can be, it requires too much attention. It limits it's range and trays to be adjustable but it doesn't work well.
Its size has put it over my comfortable one handed use size. The one handed mode helps a bit though. Can't really do much about that. It seems to be the trend.
Its close to being a great phone but held back a bit. Maybe there are solutions to most of my woes.
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Battery life for me is great. You might want to get Wakelock detector and see what is causing this. I can get 36 hours and still have 40% left. Also, it just depends on what you are doing with it. I send/receive text messages, make phone calls, surf the web, read news, etc. Usually, I have it charged before I go to bed and when I wake up 7 hours later, it's still at 100%. I leave it on all night as I use the phone as my alarm clock.
Now, I am rooted and I use Greenify to help hibernate a lot of apps. However, you don't have to be rooted to Greenify now. I don't hibernate any system apps and I don't sync a lot of unnecessary stuff either. I also have the Snapdragon Battery Guru app installed which works well. However, I will say, for a few days, I didn't root this phone, didn't use Greenify and used only the Snapdragon Battery Guru and I was still getting well over 24 hours of battery life.
I use Swiftkey and it has a one-handed/compact layout. It seems to be doing fine for me, but I don't use one-handed mode.
I feel you. Whenever I do any type of graphics intensive gaming (i.e. Real Racing 3) during the day, battery drain is crazy. When I don't use it as much, Ive had the phone go for two days. The phone seems to have great conservation when the screen is off, but that massive high-res screen has got to have something to do with battery drain. It's not the most convenient, but personally, I've found the best solution to be a quick mid-day charge. Phonearena did a charge comparison between phones, and the G3 is one of the fastest charging phones on the market right now. 2 hours for a full charge. Like I said, it's not the greatest thing to have to plug in your phone during the day, but I've found that even a solid half an hour charge makes a huge difference.
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I feel you. Whenever I do any type of graphics intensive gaming (i.e. Real Racing 3) during the day, battery drain is crazy. When I don't use it as much, Ive had the phone go for two days. The phone seems to have great conservation when the screen is off, but that massive high-res screen has got to have something to do with battery drain. It's not the most convenient, but personally, I've found the best solution to be a quick mid-day charge. Phonearena did a charge comparison between phones, and the G3 is one of the fastest charging phones on the market right now. 2 hours for a full charge. Like I said, it's not the greatest thing to have to plug in your phone during the day, but I've found that even a solid half an hour charge makes a huge difference.
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Well, yeah. Games are going to drain it no matter what and it depends on how long you play. I've noticed even with Game of War, an hour of gaming will drain it maybe 8% or more. Just depends on what you do with it.
Any phone is going to drain like crazy, but yes, the Quad HD display definitely drains the battery more due to the higher number of pixels. But, for those with every day normal use (not gaming), this phone definitely lasts more than a day.
Whenever I play a game, if I'm at home, I plug it in if I know I'm playing for a long period of time. otherwise, if I'm away from home, I know I can still play over an hour of a game and still have plenty of juice to last me the rest of the day.
I would rather have better battery than the added resolution screen. 1080p is very good for a phone.
I watch youtube and mess around online a bit on breaks. Same behavior as the z3v and dramatic difference in battery life.
I never found one handed mode in SwiftKey.
Nvm... Found it
The screen is the biggest user of battery... 60% according to the battery use chart.
These past few devices I have had... Has lead me to a conclusion.
All this undervolting and CPU throttling is pretty much useless.
The processor in this device and my last few, has had very little load on it for the most part. Some games may push the system, but general use and some youtube barely has the device going more than a couple steps above minimum clock speed.
Background services and sync... Small effects overall on battery.
It's all about that screen and it's power efficiency. Resolution has something to do with it as well. As the GPU must run harder on higher resolutions.
Turn down the brightness... And then I can't see the video I am watching.
An android phone with a current SoC, a 3000mah battery, a 4.7-5 inch screen, and 1080p resolution... Should be able to get well over 10 hours of screen on time, running video...
The radios are power hungry as well, but mostly in prolonged use like video streaming.
This size and resolution war has prevented us from gaining what we want most... Great battery life.
Still the phone ain't too bad.
Marine6680 said:
These past few devices I have had... Has lead me to a conclusion.
All this undervolting and CPU throttling is pretty much useless.
The processor in this device and my last few, has had very little load on it for the most part. Some games may push the system, but general use and some youtube barely has the device going more than a couple steps above minimum clock speed.
Background services and sync... Small effects overall on battery.
It's all about that screen and it's power efficiency. Resolution has something to do with it as well. As the GPU must run harder on higher resolutions.
Turn down the brightness... And then I can't see the video I am watching.
An android phone with a current SoC, a 3000mah battery, a 4.7-5 inch screen, and 1080p resolution... Should be able to get well over 10 hours of screen on time, running video...
The radios are power hungry as well, but mostly in prolonged use like video streaming.
This size and resolution war has prevented us from gaining what we want most... Great battery life.
Still the phone ain't too bad.
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True with that. This isn't an 1080p resolution screen. It's more since it's a QuadHD, so that is definitely what kills it. But, I don't watch videos for 10 hours! LOL. But, I know what you're driving at.

Battery life - discussion

How are people finding this huge 5000mah battery?
In all honesty, I was expecting a little better performance. Perhaps it's still too early to tell but I'm on my 3rd battery cycle, have "balanced" battery mode active, power saving feature applied to most apps other than essentials, don't have Facebook installed etc. Have rooted and also Universal Doze for magisk installed.
I'm currently on 10% with 5hr30min SOT. Granted, I have been listening to Spotify today but over WiFi.
Just doesn't seem to be blowing me away and not feeling like my battery is 25% bigger than my previous Xperia 1 ii, with the exact same setup/general usage. If anything feels the same size, maybe even less?!
Used BetterBatteryStats and nothing seems out of place there.
Will continue to monitor. Still extremely happy with this phone.
Hmm so quick update, I had Dual WiFi (blend of 2g/5ghz network) enabled previously however today it's now disabled.
I'm currently on 45 mins SOT and still at 97% battery!!
Anyone else any experience with this? I haven't changed any apps but seems this setting may have been the cause of high drain for me....
Will continue to monitor....
My battery life has been pretty good after a few cycles
Not bad. I keep it on mobile data most of the time. And i charge it only to 90% with a 500mAh charger. And i do have Facebook app, a Garmin smart watch and many synced accounts that run in the background
Not bad at all IMO. Received the phone today and it was at around 40 percent. Haven't charged yet. Refresh rate is on auto.
cd993 said:
How are people finding this huge 5000mah battery?
In all honesty, I was expecting a little better performance. Perhaps it's still too early to tell but I'm on my 3rd battery cycle, have "balanced" battery mode active, power saving feature applied to most apps other than essentials, don't have Facebook installed etc. Have rooted and also Universal Doze for magisk installed.
I'm currently on 10% with 5hr30min SOT. Granted, I have been listening to Spotify today but over WiFi.
Just doesn't seem to be blowing me away and not feeling like my battery is 25% bigger than my previous Xperia 1 ii, with the exact same setup/general usage. If anything feels the same size, maybe even less?!
Used BetterBatteryStats and nothing seems out of place there.
Will continue to monitor. Still extremely happy with this phone.
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Are you more satisfied with the ZenFone 7 than with the Xperia 1 II?
How does the loudspeaker compares?
Im in doubt between the two.
Csetoue said:
Are you more satisfied with the ZenFone 7 than with the Xperia 1 II?
How does the loudspeaker compares?
Im in doubt between the two.
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Overall, yeah I'm very happy with this phone.
Comparing the two:
- the speakers were better on the Xperia, front facing always wins as avoids you accidentally covering the bottom firing one up on the Zenfone plus the top earpiece one isn't great. But, it's still good enough and they sound decent to keep me happy
- the less wider feel on the Xperia was also very nice but I really don't mind the feel of the zenfonr
- the camera on the Xperia was very good, but I just didn't feel like I was amazed by the point and click usage. Which I know it was really aimed for Pro users, but still....
- for the Zenfone I love the feel of it. A very fast phone, great camera, I'm a big fan of the flip camera, very good selfies (more concerned about video calls as the Xperia has a horrible smoothening effect which they didn't fix)
-the led on the Xperia was very nice whereas there's not as many colours on the Zenfone
Ultimately one of the biggest factors for me is rom and gcam development. It was virtually non existent for the Xperia but I enjoy it too much to sacrifice it. Already there is a decent gcam for zenfone and havoc & omnirom are being worked on
So I guess it boils down to what matters the most to you. Both very good options to be honest!
My first cycle from 100% down to 0% (won't be doing this often). Auto refresh, mainly on wifi (95%), AOD off, balanced profile. Not bad > 7 hour SOT.
Edit: don't know why PNG screenies aren't working with attachments :/
CVonV said:
My first cycle from 100% down to 0% (won't be doing this often). Auto refresh, mainly on wifi (95%), AOD off, balanced profile. Not bad > 7 hour SOT.
Edit: don't know why PNG screenies aren't working with attachments :/
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On 90hz?
Tagion said:
On 90hz?
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Auto refresh rate as I said.
I'm gonna try turning wifi off and see how long the SOT is from 100%-0% using just 4G (5G is off as my carrier doesn't support it).
Might try forcing 90Hz on a separate occasion too.
5 hr 53 min SOT ON dual sim 4G only.
battery life is good. not as good as zen 6. However its a all day phone. Charges really fast. Fastest charge so far.
90Hz is noticeable.. Keep your NFC , Bluetooth and especially Location off to save allot more battery..
Overal the phone is a winner .. only major peoblem.. I cant seem find ANY info to get 4g or even 5g here in USA> I thin this phone is NOT compatible for USA cell bands.. I even brought it to att store and they couldnt ge it to work past 3g.
This battery could be better, Asus need optimize better the kernel. I have bad performance on game Genshin impact (drop frames) and bad standby, 6h it goes 3,5%, on my motorola edge plus it goes 1% with the same condition.
I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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Are you on Balanced profile still? And is Adaptive Battery enabled or disabled? Optiflex is meant to "saves battery on standby" too lol
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I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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Just disable optiflex ?
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Are you on Balanced profile still? And is Adaptive Battery enabled or disabled? Optiflex is meant to "saves battery on standby" too lol
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hehk1234 said:
Just disable optiflex ?
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The only battery saving setting I still have enabled is "hibernate apps" under battery settings. Optiflex, adaptive battery, detect battery-draining apps all off. Using balanced power settings but I'm mostly on 90Hz.
dannejanne said:
The only battery saving setting I still have enabled is "hibernate apps" under battery settings. Optiflex, adaptive battery, detect battery-draining apps all off. Using balanced power settings but I'm mostly on 90Hz.
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How much you feel the stand by battery conservation ?
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How much you feel the stand by battery conservation ?
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From using about 1% per hour to about 2% in 8 hours sleep. Check your APN also, I've seen some mention the phone does not use the right one automatically.
Going from the Zenfone 6 to this Zenfone 7, there is certainly a slight drop in battery endurance. The better chipset/hardware etc I don't feel explains the difference but it won't put me off the phone.
Just wish phone batteries would massively improve!

Question Minor Annoying Bugs

Early adapter, shifted from samsung and Miui is dumpster fire.
Annoying bugs:
1) Aux/Handsfree doesn't provides full volume untill you lock and unlock your phone, music stops, you play again, music gets higher volume
*UPDATE: Turning screen on and off doesn't work. It now works when you do or receive a voice call over network while plugging in the headphone jack.*
2) It just keeps killing apps. Turned off battery saver, Manually set up every app not to be optimized. Turned off miui optimization (tried turning it on) no luck.
*Update: it still is aggressive but updates have made it a little better, still sucks tho*
3) Chrome and other browser simply do not care, they just kill your page. Go to another link for one sec, come back, page reloads.
*Update: Somewhat better*
4) when you search something in any browser, and tried editing it on the second attempt, cursor simply doesn't show
*Update: Solved*
5) Whatsapp notifications show previous messages instead of current message received, have to open notifications center to see who texted
6) Can't change keyboard layout and size, tried third party, it simply doesn't work
7) Navigation gestures are a disaster, phone lags horribly, stutters in every app, pip goes wild, apps overlap, hot mess. E.g maps just doesn't do pip with gestures
8) well, pip is very buggy, glitches 4 out of 10 times, any app. Dual screen mode buggy, apps weird out when try to resize them, even supported apps
*Update: Floating windows works fine. Pip is better, not flawless but much much better*
9) You can't change navigation button style unless changing whole phones theme from the app. Try 3rd party, it just overlaps over current one
10) biggest annoyance, No second space. I used secure folder a lot, it just doesn't have one, tried everything, googling, no answers.
*Update: Its hidden, it's definitely triggerable by activity launcher but xiaomi has hidden it from the settings which is stupidly weird?*
11) Doesn't hides punch hole in landscape, tried everything, 3rd party apps, magisk, it simply doesn't care
12) Having no sensor for turning off screen while on call, it shows, IT REALLY SHOWS. When you're on a call, a simple hand gesture would turn off your screen and it would not turn it on untill you swing your phone
13) Auto brightness is a joke, its hit and miss. 7/10 times have to adjust myself
14) Phone vibrates on full volume, plastic body shows but sound is more than decent, no distortions
14) Doesn't charges the phone while gaming, but lags the games like crazy you simply can't charge and play with the original charger, 10w charger works fine. No option to disable fast charging
15) Baked ads in every system app, Replace every system app, i repeat replace every system. E.g music, file manager, gallery
16) Disable scanning while installing apps, it sometimes unlocks the phone by itself and display over anything you're doing
(Edit 1)
17) Phones doesn't triggers screen to turn on when someone calls, when battery saver is turned on. You have to unlock the phone, open notifications and than click on the call notification and than pick up.
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Apart from these bugs, phone works great for its price. Kindly mention if anything can be done for these. Will keep updating with solutions and more bugs (hope not)
For 15) you can disable ads, although you have to do it for each app separately (the setting is usually called "recommendations")
bomberb17 said:
For 15) you can disable ads, although you have to do it for each app separately (the setting is usually called "recommendations")
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Did that but it resets everytime my phone updates. I just replaced it, changed default apps by default app
10) Second space option available from Activity Launcher app.
You -shouldn't- charge while using. Most smartphone power controllers behave like that by design.
Think of it as character rather than bugs
blackhawk said:
You -shouldn't- charge while using. Most smartphone power controllers behave like that by design.
Think of it as character rather than bugs
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Well why shouldn't you? Everyone s usage differs, my works like that. Used samsung devices for years, never had the issue to charge and use? It actually charged at the same rate on heavy use as it charges while not using the phone.
This phone? Oh my, it goes crazy slow and doesn't charge at all on 33w but does fine on 10w charger
OrianPledge said:
Well why shouldn't you? Everyone s usage differs, my works like that. Used samsung devices for years, never had the issue to charge and use? It actually charged at the same rate on heavy use as it charges while not using the phone.
This phone? Oh my, it goes crazy slow and doesn't charge at all on 33w but does fine on 10w charger
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It skews the charge curve. It will charge little and drives up the battery temp needlessly.
10 watts is nothing... it supports fast charging, right? Use the right brick and cable.
A damaged Li will fast charge erratically or not at all.
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10) Second space option available from Activity Launcher app.
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Thank you!!! Works but switch button keeps disappearing from the home page, have to find a work around.
Curious, why they haven't included it in the system settings?
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It skews the charge curve. It will charge little and drives up the battery temp needlessly.
10 watts is nothing... it supports fast charging, right? Use the right brick and cable.
A damaged Li will fast charge erratically or not at all.
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Thank you, I'll try to use the original brick but 10w is a life saver when I need to use my phone at the same time. I'm not planning to prolong the phones life anyway.
It's not much of a difference if we really look into it, 0-50 33w is faster but after 50%, both bricks perform marginally same
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Thank you, I'll try to use the original brick but 10w is a life saver when I need to use my phone at the same time. I'm not planning to prolong the phones life anyway.
It's not much of a difference if we really look into it, 0-50 33w is faster but after 50%, both bricks perform marginally same
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I've noticed the battery performance/life drops faster when using the device like that so I avoid it.
Odd that faster charging disengages at 50%.
Keep an eye open for signs of battery swelling, replace it asap if you spot that. You don't need an event to occur.
blackhawk said:
I've noticed the battery performance/life drops faster when using the device like that so I avoid it.
Odd that faster charging disengages at 50%.
Keep an eye open for signs of battery swelling, replace it asap if you spot that. You don't need an event to occur.
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Its a brand new phone, I really doubt that the battery is swole. I never really experienced battery losing life on newer phones which is drastically noticeable, over time, battery loses health anyways, whats more 5%.
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Its a brand new phone, I really doubt that the battery is swole. I never really experienced battery losing life on newer phones which is drastically noticeable, over time, battery loses health anyways, whats more 5%.
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Li batteries can fail at any time. It's rare for events to happen but lower level failures are common.
I just replaced one that failed on my Note 10+, fortunately its swelling didn't damage the display.

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