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OK so my G Tablet is on the way and I've been reading and came across a comment on another forum that the ROM's that exist are built on the original stock software and that the most recent update may be causing problems with CWM? I will be getting my G Tablet on Wednesday, should I not do the update if I am going to be flashing a custom ROM? Thanks in advance!
drum747,
I believe everyone should make their own decisions. But if you ask me -- I'd tell you to simply stick with a stock G-Tablet right now.
When you get yours and go to Settings/About you can see the version -- something
like 1.1.xxxx -- probably 3588. If not, just about as soon as you get wifi connected
it will offer you an OTA (on the air) update to 3588. That's the current working version, and compared to the crud we had back last November it really isn't bad software.
It will lack the Market and some other things...you may have to be patient there.
But you can still side-load apps and download apps directly from a number of places.
But we are waiting. Our devs have found that there is software for a possible
Update 3991. The hope is that OTA 3991 will come down in the next few weeks.
If so, at 3588 stock you will be in perfect shape for that update. And then once you
have worked with it a while, you will be able to decide whether to stick with it -- or look at other options.
It seems like everyone who come in here looks at the ROMs available like a "all-you-can-eat" buffet. The immediately start flashing ROMs and moving around software
until something goes wrong and they are stuck. Indigestion!
With a good 3588 tablet, you can read and interact here and find out the biggest and
the best, and you can learn what you need to that when you are ready you can
move up to whatever you want without problems.
Do what you want. Enjoy the G-Tablet. I think it pretty darn good!
Rev
I agree.........
Stick with the most current stock version 3588. The next update officially available from viewsonic should be very soon, but I don't think it will be 3991 as advertised
3558 was different than what it started as, or it would seem based on what I have gathered from reading old threads.
ale
You know, I have a Droid X and have really enjoyed rooting it and trying different ROM's and was really looking forward to the same type of experience on this tablet. What is the advantage of waiting until the next update? Can't I update, do a full backup and go back to that if I want? Once I install a different ROM, I am then stuck at whatever update and no further updates? Is that why you are saying to wait? Are you saying there will be even better ROM's down the road based on the new update that is coming? Or just that the new update coming might have all the things we would like?
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. Just don't forget to make nvflash to factory stock your best friend ;-)
A little of both I guess. Part of the reason I chose this tablet over others is because of the support and customization (and price!) I will try to wait for the next update before I tweak it (if I can!) Heh!! Thanks for the responses guys!! I appreciate the input!
K J Rad said:
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. )
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This is without the best quote I could image. Tinkering without first using the tab and getting to realize it's not a giant phone is the first step I think everyone should understand.
And if you do tinker then you should expect it to have opportunities (problems ).
drum747,
Not addressing your abilities or anything about you.
But read all the crash and burn threads on this forum.
IMHO, to many people are trying to do to much too fast and are
messing up their tabs and have to be bailed out.
I'm just saying be cautious, move slowly and carefully and
don't get into trouble.
However, my advice still stands. If you move on to other
ROMS, etc. now, you will cut off access to offline updates.
Then you will have to go back to stock, etc. And
sometimes going back is as much as problem as going up!
It still would be easier to stay stock now and if an update
doesn't come down soon -- you will have read and learned
and be ready to make choices.
IMHO.
Rev
IMHO... if it ain't powering your pacemaker then learn how to nvflash and have fun.
Be part of the revolution or watch it happen... ;-)
Thanks guys! I get what you're saying!
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K J Rad said:
... learn how to nvflash and have fun.
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QFT.
nvflash is not hard to get working. With a properly set up nvflash procedure and all the info on these forums, the gTab is an unbrickable as it gets.
updates
I upgraded to the vegan 7, gingerbread, how do I go back to the original stock to get the latest updates from viewsonic when update arrives?
Second that
I absolutely agree to stick with the stock ROM and play for a while. The 3588 update is very stable and usable when you change to Classic Home. I have been using it till now, side loading apps and enjoying a lot without having to worry about custom ROMS and such.
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
Roxxas049 said:
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
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Yeah I think it all boils down to what the individual wants and is willing to risk..this forum makes it easy and there are plenty of options to try just always prepare for the unexpected and dealing with the experimentals expect anything to happen!!
Who am I kidding?! There is no way I will be able to wait for the next update. I already have a ton of files set up to load on my G tablet. I will be Modding within hours of my full charge! Guess its just my nature! Thanks guys!
Butch, thanks I will be reading everything to make sure I do it right Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Closing Word...
Everyone that has contributed to this thread--
I have tried to voice the side of conservatism and restraint and
good judgement in this thread. My intention was not to hurt any
feeliings or pick on anyone or rain on anyone's parade.
But if you read what's going on in these forums, there are a lot
of folks having problems. A lot of them are in over their heads and
some have been careless and others made honest mistakes.
I know for my part, I have been working hard to try to help folks
find the tools and make the decisions to get back on track. I'm sure
I have made mistakes and my opinions are mine!
But I speak for myself in saying that even though I am semi-retired
and have more time than most -- I can't keep up this pace. And I've
heard others of the helpers say the same thing.
I also call your attention to the "TwoTapsX" thread and the fact that
the moderators are aware of the problems people are having. Roebeet
has put together a splendid ROM that many think will be the next
generation of G-Tablet software. But because of the complexity of the
mods folks already have had in the tablets, and because of the human
factors listed above -- a lot of folks have messed up their tablets.
In My Humble Opinion: Somebody has got to say that in spite of all the
"opportunities" for mods in these forums -- folks have got to start
exercising more restraint, more good judgement, more common sense in
what they do.
The devs and the folks who are helpers here can't be expected to carry the
load of keeping everyone up and running with the current problem rates. I
sometimes don't agree with the moderators, but this time I see their point.
We users have a good thing here, but if it keeps being abused......
********
Having said that, I am done here. I wish you well.
Rev
/EOT
Just an update. Within an hour of booting up I had installed CWM and Vegan. It was an easy process and now I love my g tablet!
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Welcome! Enjoy the koolaid... ;-)
Nice responce
I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
Really.......
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Buy an ipad
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RiiGGS said:
I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
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I thanked your post, not because it was in any way useful but absolutely hilarious!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that will most likely never happen. I'll trade my wife's iPhone 4 for your Note though, I'll even throw in a dead iPad!
Well, truth be told, there is not a solution yet.
BUT, if you wait a bit, a rom called MIUI will likely be developed.
Let me explain...
Cyanogen is a team that develops 'clean' Android roms for many devices. This means, no bloat and has ALL of the features that Android has to offer, enabled (with exception to features that would not be applicable because the phone simply does not have the hardware - for example, if your phone does not have NFC, Cyanogen wont support it for your device and they simply remove all of the code related to this). The result is, the most feature rich version of Android (and most up to date as they do keep up with Google's releases) with the least amount of crap. This keeps the phone lean and clean.
Now, since Cyanogen is open source, they make the source code available for other rom developers to modify what they have done to create different experiences. This allows developers to start with a feature rich rom and develop on top of that to add their own 'flavor' to their work.
One such 'flavor' is MIUI which strives to make your Android device as Iphone like as possible. While it isnt perfectly matched to the Iphone, its moderately close.
Dont get me wrong, I for the life of me am baffled as to why someone would want their Android phone to look like an Iphone but that is what MIUI is there for.
(BTW, if I am wrong about MIUI, feel free to mention it, based on everything I have read about it however, the impression I got was to theme an Android OS to look like IOS).
However, we have a long way before this happens. Rom developers have barely figured out how to do anything with this phone.
To my knowledge, there is only 1 custom rom (Saurom) and it isnt really all that custom from what I can see. All it seems to have is enhancements from the stock rom (overclocking, cwm, att bloat removed?) but in essence is just a more efficient streamlined stock rom.
There is also only one custom kernel that I can see that again, is the same as the stock kernel but allows for overclocking (and I think I read that the davlik cache size was increased).
Once Samsung releases the source code for the Note, we will start seeing alot more rom development, at which time Cyanogen will jump on board and start making roms (using the source that Samsung releases for things like drivers) and once Cyanogen has a relatively stable rom, MIUI will likely take the Cyanogen source and tweak it.
Very convoluted I know but probably wont be seeing anything earth shattering until the source code is released from Samsung.
littlewierdo said:
Well, truth be told, there is not a solution yet.
BUT, if you wait a bit, a rom called MIUI will likely be developed.
Let me explain...
Cyanogen is a team that develops 'clean' Android roms for many devices. This means, no bloat and has ALL of the features that Android has to offer, enabled (with exception to features that would not be applicable because the phone simply does not have the hardware - for example, if your phone does not have NFC, Cyanogen wont support it for your device and they simply remove all of the code related to this). The result is, the most feature rich version of Android (and most up to date as they do keep up with Google's releases) with the least amount of crap. This keeps the phone lean and clean.
Now, since Cyanogen is open source, they make the source code available for other rom developers to modify what they have done to create different experiences. This allows developers to start with a feature rich rom and develop on top of that to add their own 'flavor' to their work.
One such 'flavor' is MIUI which strives to make your Android device as Iphone like as possible. While it isnt perfectly matched to the Iphone, its moderately close.
Dont get me wrong, I for the life of me am baffled as to why someone would want their Android phone to look like an Iphone but that is what MIUI is there for.
(BTW, if I am wrong about MIUI, feel free to mention it, based on everything I have read about it however, the impression I got was to theme an Android OS to look like IOS).
However, we have a long way before this happens. Rom developers have barely figured out how to do anything with this phone.
To my knowledge, there is only 1 custom rom (Saurom) and it isnt really all that custom from what I can see. All it seems to have is enhancements from the stock rom (overclocking, cwm, att bloat removed?) but in essence is just a more efficient streamlined stock rom.
There is also only one custom kernel that I can see that again, is the same as the stock kernel but allows for overclocking (and I think I read that the davlik cache size was increased).
Once Samsung releases the source code for the Note, we will start seeing alot more rom development, at which time Cyanogen will jump on board and start making roms (using the source that Samsung releases for things like drivers) and once Cyanogen has a relatively stable rom, MIUI will likely take the Cyanogen source and tweak it.
Very convoluted I know but probably wont be seeing anything earth shattering until the source code is released from Samsung.
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Off topic but, didn't samsung already already release the source code right before the release of the phone itself?
bonefan03 said:
Off topic but, didn't samsung already already release the source code right before the release of the phone itself?
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Afaik they released the kernel source but that's it. I could be mistaken
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Really you come on an android forum and talk about how you like apple better?
What did you think would happen?
If you want a fruitphone go get in your VW Jetta and get one. Don't ruin a real phone by putting ios on it.
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iOS On Note
What I was really hoping for was to be able to keep my Notes Hardware while having full iOS software so I could Facetime or use itunes,appstore,gamecenter,and so forth.
RiiGGS said:
What I was really hoping for was to be able to keep my Notes Hardware while having full iOS software so I could Facetime or use itunes,appstore,gamecenter,and so forth.
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https://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I717
Is this the sources you were speaking of. If so i am still trying to figure out if this is the full source or just kernel
RiiGGS said:
I recently bought the Note. I was an ios user and perfer it over android. I love the hardware of the Note but not the software. So I would like to know if there is a way to run iOS on the Note and when I say run I mean like if it was an iPhone 4s. Is there any one who can help me anything is much appreciated,
Thanks.
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Excuse me....I just threw up in my throat a little bit.
And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
lol well on the bright side, at least his question was posted in the correct forum section.
themisfit said:
https://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I717
Is this the sources you were speaking of. If so i am still trying to figure out if this is the full source or just kernel
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Those are kernel sources only not full OS source.
themisfit said:
And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
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No need to flame really. We were all new here at some point. A simple no it won't happen will suffice
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themisfit said:
And for the love of god. Let the flaming begin, i think this is by far my favorite thread in all of xda. Im completly amused by this and will read the complete flaming of vast stupidity for days to come.
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No, the flaming won't begin, the thread will end. Here.
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
Are you some sort of idiot....if you have so much to complain about dont buy the damn phone! Dont come on here whining about it! Not really the best place to be comparing the processing power to an iphone is it??
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droidis said:
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
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Here's a bit of advice:
DON'T SPAM THE BOARD,
if you just want to complain about every freakin' ROM, don't do it at all..
test things before posting cr*p like this,
GET STABLE ROMS!!!
WIPE DALVIK BEFORE RUNNING OSs
BUY THIS GOD FOR SAKEN PHONE, GET MIUI AND BE HAPPY!!!
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MIUI, GET CM9 IT'S THE MOST STABLE TO DATE.
By the way: Thanks, you just ruined my evening. Cheers, mate! Have a good day
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
P.S. Reporting thread - Spam
familyguy59 said:
Here's a bit of advice:
DON'T SPAM THE BOARD,
if you just want to complain about every freakin' ROM, don't do it at all..
test things before posting cr*p like this,
GET STABLE ROMS!!!
WIPE DALVIK BEFORE RUNNING OSs
BUY THIS GOD FOR SAKEN PHONE, GET MIUI AND BE HAPPY!!!
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MIUI, GET CM9 IT'S THE MOST STABLE TO DATE.
By the way: Thanks, you just ruined my evening. Cheers, mate! Have a good day
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
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Well said mate! People these days, i cant wait to see everyones response to this moron lol
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I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
droidis said:
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
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The beauty of android lies in the flexibility and customization.
S3 is way better than any Apple
If you like Apple, go and buy it, what are you comparing for?
There are many stable roms for all phones, I use viking, with nova launcher, I am happy.
Everyone has different set of needs and preferences, don't waste your own or others time by convincing others or asking us to convince you.
Be yourself.
droidis said:
I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
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But youre the idiot whos come into the S3 section and done nothing but *****ed about it....your an idiot!!
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droidis said:
I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
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Oh, look. You just insulted someone!
Report no. 5 in one day. One more and I'll break my own record.
Oh, and you did just reply..
Please, go spam Rootzwiki, or some other forum, but not this masterpiece..
You are answering with fanaticism just like the Iphone funs. I didn't post to argue with you. If you want you can keep your eyes closed and simply get what they give to you. I like android more as the other OS and I like Samsung phones more as the other phones. I think all the people behind the scenes, in the community or even at Samsung, can do better.
If there are no themes you like, and no roms you like... Instead of "complaining" Why don't you take the time to learn how to theme and customize a rom then you can customize it the way you want? Devs do this for free, you honestly have NO right to complain. Do you pay them? Are they your employees? No.. So you have no right to complain.
If you do not like what the community has to offer you can
1. Leave the community
2. Learn how to do things yourself and stop depending on other people to do things for you especially if you do not like anything that's offered...
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A Universal Rom idea...
With every Launcher (done through aroma) (touchwiz, sense, miui, cm10, aosp, liquid, (custom for rom...Launcher)) (with explicit details on what wont work for each launcher)
A large list of pre-installed themes (not just standard)
Multiple Lockscreen selections inside Aroma
large list of browsers apps for selection (file and internet) (what can i say, people have their preferences)
large list of music enhancing applications for selection (such as acid tech and walkman player, beats, awesome beats, beats pro, dsp manager, volume +)
Complete list of kernels for device on rom
large list of system fonts
Pacman config options (AOKP, CM10, PA) (possibly with selection of baked rom control instead of regular AOKP)
Pre-installed T-mobile theme manager (sorts themes on market and makes them more easily readable for download, alows different sorting options)
Adblock for android
Inverted or regular gapp selection
Option to replace system applications with ones that exist on market (for example, talkatone includes free minutes, free texting, no ads, and you keep
your number) (Messaging 7 is an example of my preferred messaging application i use from the market)
Optional keyboard selection, from a large list (branches down from swype or no swype to other options, inside aroma)
Any additional mods for the phone included inside aroma (with descriptions)
Bloat removal included inside aroma
Gesture Control (if possible)
Boot animation config inside of aroma, with screenshots of each on OP
Possible Development Collaboration to include mods from specific roms to help in development of this one. (Which i would personally include the viper
battery control (never had better battery life) (some tweaks from SuperJelly, bareback) (I would also include the viper rom configuration options, if sense
was selected, after ported to jelly bean)
Oh and rom installer and zip file deletion script after it installs to remove that large ass download from your phone or tablet.
Multiple GPS navigation application options.
Idk maybe its just me, but if i could have one rom with a million different aroma options, id have 1 rom, i could re-do over and over, satisfying my rom addiction for months. I thought it sounded like a cool idea, dont know if its all completely possible but i hate finding an issue with a rom and having to download another 300mb+ file to find another problem with a rom. Its almost the same issue i have with media, and competition, except its a free thing.
To be honest. I wouldnt mind paying for a rom that had every feature every rom offered compiled into one very large aroma installer. 5-10-20 bucks and i have an ultra phone, and would never have to download another rom...Perm satisfying my rom addiction by creating an UltraROM, possibly using svn to not have to download updates. Or a pre-configured OTA, However in that option, and i was paying for it, you better have a good server lol, cause id rather download from dev host at 4-5MB/s than download from a **** server direct link that lets me dl at 100KB/s
Any thoughts?
Most of it is do able with my skill set just have to learn the installer aroma. But it why that is alot of work my private cm7 on my old g2x had alot of stuff just no options. It was alot of work and asop or cm10 needs to fix lte before i touch them to try but im going to learn aroma soon anyway. So ill think about it seems interesting.
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A thread for this. ? :banghead: why not choose the ROM that most meets these requests, and add the rest yourself?
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Ah haha hahaha
Is something wrong with the idea of a paid ROM that includes all the features present in other roms? Yes this is a thread, because as far as i know it hasnt been done. There isnt even a free rom that includes all the good features from every rom.
There are multiple roms with different features that you find appealing, which makes you want to switch between them all of the time, and actually causes the want to switch between said roms frequently. The desire for a perfect rom exists, however a perfect rom doesnt exist, so you go back and foruth between them all the time. Always wanting a new rom, always wanting a different one, always wanting to see that new feature. Which is the same way phones come out in stores. A new feature comes out, you want a new phone, even though just moments ago you loved your old one.
So its odd that roms would be developed in the same fashion wouldnt you agree? That there is always a new rom to make you want to switch, even though flashing presents the risk of damaging your device, and you loved the rom you were just on a moment ago, but it is missing that feature. A singular rom wouldnt have this issue, and if lots of options were presented in aroma, people would never get bored with it. If made through SVN people wouldnt get tired of downloading new additions to a large rom.
So if the rom was developed by multiple developers, Then the credits would be for every dev, not just one. Destroying the idea of singling a single rom out while others exist, because all devs would be working on it. Depending on the amount being spent, the devs could actually no longer need donations after a little while, as they would be making a sufficiant amount off of the rom itself, if it were paid, and if it werent, so many people would be using the rom that the idea that no donations would go through would be rediculous, they would be getting paid based off of the feelings of the consumer, which, if the rom were made this way, would be alot. As alot of people would want to use the rom.
Paid for rom? you serious?!?! that's just plain wrong...and impossible to get a rom that works with every single device out there
OH WOW!! So if I understand you correctly, you want every app, mod, font, kernel, theme and feature of all the ROMs in one nice package? Then you want it to be a universal type of ROM?
What are we talking about.....5-6 gigs here??
THEN you have the nerve to think people are going to jump at this project just because you throw a few dollars down?? I'm sorry but saying you would pay for a ROM is just nuts! Not sure where you think you are BUT this isn't the place to try to BUY a ROM! I can't speak for every developer on here BUT the ones I associate with, I can sure as hell speak for and I can tell you that money isn't our motivation!
Keep your 5 dollars or 20 dollars and head over to the development section and pick out a ROM like everyone else. If that doesn't do it for you, then roll them sleeves up and make one yourself!
there's this thing called a kitchen... thing is our devices couldn't hold such a large file to do that. and having it universal is near impossible. and lol at the flash some money.
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Fake outrage!!!
Seems like it could just be a options chooser zip instead of a full rom.
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Seems like it could just be a options chooser zip instead of a full rom.
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WOW, just WOW with this thread...
If you cannot find a ROM to suit you "needs" on this forum, then re-lock your phone and run stock....or build your own ROM. What you're asking for is never going to happen and undermines the entire point of what XDA is and stands for.
SMH....
With all the features you want.. the Rom zip file would be ridiculously large
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So im gonna say a few things and put them simply, as you guys seem to think this is a complete life ending discussion, if i put more than a few lines of text into a post.
If i want sense. i want a sense rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want CM10. i want a CM10 rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want AOKP. i want a AOKP rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want PA. i want a PA rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one, and new names.
If i want the 3 above to be in one rom, i want ONE rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one. And new names.
If i want MIUI. I want a MIUI rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
So for the nth time. Why do we have so many roms that are the same? this is open source people collaborate a little lol stop adding a small little game changer into a new rom every 5 seconds and just add it in to one that exists.
I mean, like mazda just said, you dont do it for money or donations. I immagine you do it for credit then or there just wouldnt be so many roms out there that are exactly alike. lol
btw, if this was a hate thread, there would have been more...well...hate. Unless your saying theres alot of random hate from people who stumbled apon this thread and decided it was against their religion not to reply with hate lol.
and then if you are, thats very normal for this device. Seems the only people who buy an evo have anger issues they need to work out.
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So im gonna say a few things and put them simply, as you guys seem to think this is a complete life ending discussion, if i put more than a few lines of text into a post.
If i want sense. i want a sense rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want CM10. i want a CM10 rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want AOKP. i want a AOKP rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want PA. i want a PA rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one, and new names.
If i want the 3 above to be in one rom, i want ONE rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one. And new names.
If i want MIUI. I want a MIUI rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
So for the nth time. Why do we have so many roms that are the same? this is open source people collaborate a little lol stop adding a small little game changer into a new rom every 5 seconds and just add it in to one that exists.
I mean, like mazda just said, you dont do it for money or donations. I immagine you do it for credit then or there just wouldnt be so many roms out there that are exactly alike. lol
btw, if this was a hate thread, there would have been more...well...hate. Unless your saying theres alot of random hate from people who stumbled apon this thread and decided it was against their religion not to reply with hate lol.
and then if you are, thats very normal for this device. Seems the only people who buy an evo have anger issues they need to work out.
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I'm not hating by any means...just very confused as to why if you want all of these things in a "ROM" you don't just do it yourself?
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I'm not hating by any means...just very confused as to why if you want all of these things in a "ROM" you don't just do it yourself?
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Because not everyone can cook ROMs.
Topic turned into a flame fest, closed.
First, and foremost, hello. I am new here, and I'm glad to be a part of the forum. Secondly, I'd like to apologize if I am posting this in the wrong section.
The topic I'd like to ask you a few questions about today is ROM Flashing, and the steps I should be taking to stay safe. I originally started playing around with Android devices around a year ago, but I recently started to delve deeper. I am the proud owner of an AT&T ZTE Z998 Mustang, and I have rooted it successfully. While in the process of rooting, I saw all of the warnings of how I should do a NANDROID backup, so that was my first instinct. I tried installing Clockworkmod, but to my dismay, they did not have an official version for my phone. I did happen to get lucky and find a version someone ported on their own. I attempted for a whole night before falling prey to error after error, and decided to give up. I went on without any backups, fiddling with my device. Luckily, I did not mess anything up, except for "accidentally" deleting the AT&T startup animation. (Haha.) Tonight, though, I happened to get the urge again, so I made some more attempts. After receiving the same error, I decided to look that error up word for word, and found that I did not have enough room on my Micro SD. I managed to clear enough room, and jumped in joy when I saw that I could delete an app, then restore and have it be back again. It was quite a big accomplishment for me. I've decided that I want to try flashing a custom ROM. The ROM I have chosen is the MIUI ROM. It seems quite popular, and I enjoy the iOS-esq feel of it, as well as its seamless theme changing. The only problem is, there is not an official release for my device. In fact, I have yet to find any ROM with an official release for my device. That is why I am coming to you guys.
My Questions:
Can I use a ROM that has not been specifically made for my device?
Will I still be connected to the AT&T Network?
If so, can I expect errors?
Am I truly safe with this newly acquired backup?
Anything you think I should know?
I'd like to thank you for any help in advance.
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First, and foremost, hello. I am new here, and I'm glad to be a part of the forum. Secondly, I'd like to apologize if I am posting this in the wrong section.
The topic I'd like to ask you a few questions about today is ROM Flashing, and the steps I should be taking to stay safe. I originally started playing around with Android devices around a year ago, but I recently started to delve deeper. I am the proud owner of an AT&T ZTE Z998 Mustang, and I have rooted it successfully. While in the process of rooting, I saw all of the warnings of how I should do a NANDROID backup, so that was my first instinct. I tried installing Clockworkmod, but to my dismay, they did not have an official version for my phone. I did happen to get lucky and find a version someone ported on their own. I attempted for a whole night before falling prey to error after error, and decided to give up. I went on without any backups, fiddling with my device. Luckily, I did not mess anything up, except for "accidentally" deleting the AT&T startup animation. (Haha.) Tonight, though, I happened to get the urge again, so I made some more attempts. After receiving the same error, I decided to look that error up word for word, and found that I did not have enough room on my Micro SD. I managed to clear enough room, and jumped in joy when I saw that I could delete an app, then restore and have it be back again. It was quite a big accomplishment for me. I've decided that I want to try flashing a custom ROM. The ROM I have chosen is the MIUI ROM. It seems quite popular, and I enjoy the iOS-esq feel of it, as well as its seamless theme changing. The only problem is, there is not an official release for my device. In fact, I have yet to find any ROM with an official release for my device. That is why I am coming to you guys.
My Questions:
Can I use a ROM that has not been specifically made for my device?
Will I still be connected to the AT&T Network?
If so, can I expect errors?
Am I truly safe with this newly acquired backup?
Anything you think I should know?
I'd like to thank you for any help in advance.
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Hi there. Welcome to the forums!
Unfortunately, the bad thing about phones that aren't very popular in the grand scheme of things means less people have them = less people making stuff for it. Developers often end up picking phones that are going to have more support from the manufacturer and more people will be able to enjoy the fruits of their labors. This of course, is a general rule, and of course there are exceptions, but your phone doesn't seem to be one of them. Companies like ZTE aren't concerned about putting out the source code for phones like this means that it is hard, to almost impossible, to make a really custom rom work correctly due to driver issues among other things.
So to answer the questions:
1) Sometimes, but very dependent on the models, carriers, and which software updates. General rule of thumb is that if it isn't based off the same chipset, it won't have a chance of working. But there are lots of other things to consider to, like radio versions, bootloader status, partition layout, etc. Long story short, there's no easy answer and there are lots of caveats.
2) + 3) See above.
4) You SHOULD be safe if CWM told you that the nandroid was completed successfully, but just like any other software based things, things happen.
Best way to be safe is to be able to reflash the original firmware for the phone back to it, but not even sure if that's an option for you - which goes back to ZTE not giving a $^!* about these cheap little phones for small prepaid companies. They save money by not doing any extra work like providing firmware, updates, source code, etc.
The only forums I know that mess with these kinds of things are:
http://unleashedprepaids.com/forum-1491.html
Not for your phone specifically, but similar ones:
http://androidarea51.com/zte-phones/
So yea, slim pickings.
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Helpful Info.
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First, thank you! I was waiting all day. I was a little disappointed with the answer, though. v.v Do you know if there are any ROMS that will work with ANY device? Like even bare minerals versions of AOSP ROMS that have yet to be touched?
Also, I am slowly saving for a 64GB Black Nexus 5, so I shouldn't be stuck but more than a month or more so.
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First, thank you! I was waiting all day. I was a little disappointed with the answer, though. v.v Do you know if there are any ROMS that will work with ANY device? Like even bare minerals versions of AOSP ROMS that have yet to be touched?
Also, I am slowly saving for a 64GB Black Nexus 5, so I shouldn't be stuck but more than a month or more so.
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No, sorry. It's just not possible. Your best hope would be to use the debloated rom in the unleashed prepaids forum and use the Xposed Framework.
http://unleashedprepaids.com/thread-8769.html
http://unleashedprepaids.com/thread-8771.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview
I have the Nexus 5 (don't think they come in 64 - only 16/32) but it's awesome and there are so many roms that it'll make your head spin. lol
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No, sorry. It's just not possible. Your best hope would be to use the debloated rom in the unleashed prepaids forum and use the Xposed Framework.
http://unleashedprepaids.com/thread-8769.html
http://unleashedprepaids.com/thread-8771.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview
I have the Nexus 5 (don't think they come in 64 - only 16/32) but it's awesome and there are so many roms that it'll make your head spin. lol
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Oops, sorry, yeah, that's what I meant. xD
But, I can not wait for it!
Just some final thoughts and questions:
I do have Xposed installed already, but have yet to look around in it due to the hundreds of modules. Do you have any suggestions about which I should look at for cosmetic needs? I have tried to use Gravitybox, but it force closed upon entry every time I used it, so I deleted it.
I understand that the limitation is very high because of the fact that it is a closed sourced company, but many ZTE Devices are listed to have compatible ROMS, such as MIUI ROM. If I try to use a ROM specified for a different phone, do you know what could happen? I feel that it may not even open, or if it does, it'll have tons of errors and not work upon entry, or even work but have certain things like the camera that will not connect. I'm only worried about high margins of fatal breakage. If it is some silly error that I won't have to "worry" about, I'm okay with fooling around.
If I do try to install a new ROM, but want to go back, will it affect anything on my previous backup? I know backups copy EVERYTHING, but I'd just like to make sure I won't do serious damage.
Lastly, thank you for all the help. It means a ton.
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Oops, sorry, yeah, that's what I meant. xD
But, I can not wait for it!
Just some final thoughts and questions:
I do have Xposed installed already, but have yet to look around in it due to the hundreds of modules. Do you have any suggestions about which I should look at for cosmetic needs? I have tried to use Gravitybox, but it force closed upon entry every time I used it, so I deleted it.
I understand that the limitation is very high because of the fact that it is a closed sourced company, but many ZTE Devices are listed to have compatible ROMS, such as MIUI ROM. If I try to use a ROM specified for a different phone, do you know what could happen? I feel that it may not even open, or if it does, it'll have tons of errors and not work upon entry, or even work but have certain things like the camera that will not connect. I'm only worried about high margins of fatal breakage. If it is some silly error that I won't have to "worry" about, I'm okay with fooling around.
If I do try to install a new ROM, but want to go back, will it affect anything on my previous backup? I know backups copy EVERYTHING, but I'd just like to make sure I won't do serious damage.
Lastly, thank you for all the help. It means a ton.
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Gravity Box wouldn't work because it is for more AOSP based things. As far as theming goes, you can try HK Theme Manager or Ex Themer. For the idea of trying to install a rom for another ZTE phone, well, best case scenario is that it doesn't flash at all. Worst case is that it does flash, and you lose something like your IMEI, baseband, or one or more of your other partitions and all of those are potentially unrecoverable, no matter what kind of backups you have. This wouldn't be one of those, "Oh, shoot, that didn't work, I'll just factory reset or restore my backup and be good to go..." kind of situations.
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Gravity Box wouldn't work because it is for more AOSP based things. As far as theming goes, you can try HK Theme Manager or Ex Themer. For the idea of trying to install a rom for another ZTE phone, well, best case scenario is that it doesn't flash at all. Worst case is that it does flash, and you lose something like your IMEI, baseband, or one or more of your other partitions and all of those are potentially unrecoverable, no matter what kind of backups you have. This wouldn't be one of those, "Oh, shoot, that didn't work, I'll just factory reset or restore my backup and be good to go..." kind of situations.
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Oh, wow! Thanks! I'm glad you pointed that out before I tried. So, I should be okay as long as I flash that ROM from the Unleashed Prepaid page? Now I am afraid, but curious.
Also, thank you for the theme modules names, I will kindly note them.
Should be fine. It's 95% stock and I'm sure they only had one version of android for the phone so should be pretty close to what you have now. Benefits would be the unsecured boot.img which is easier for root and other things to stick, init.d which allows you to run scripts (everything from being able to mount a partition of an SD card to use for extra space for apps to memory management stuff like V6 Supercharger), and a bit easier to theme and debloat.
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Should be fine. It's 95% stock and I'm sure they only had one version of android for the phone so should be pretty close to what you have now. Benefits would be the unsecured boot.img which is easier for root and other things to stick, init.d which allows you to run scripts (everything from being able to mount a partition of an SD card to use for extra space for apps to memory management stuff like V6 Supercharger), and a bit easier to theme and debloat.
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Thank you.
I'll look into it tonight. I will try and tell about what happens tomorrow-ish.
Cool. Good luck.