A Universal Rom idea...
With every Launcher (done through aroma) (touchwiz, sense, miui, cm10, aosp, liquid, (custom for rom...Launcher)) (with explicit details on what wont work for each launcher)
A large list of pre-installed themes (not just standard)
Multiple Lockscreen selections inside Aroma
large list of browsers apps for selection (file and internet) (what can i say, people have their preferences)
large list of music enhancing applications for selection (such as acid tech and walkman player, beats, awesome beats, beats pro, dsp manager, volume +)
Complete list of kernels for device on rom
large list of system fonts
Pacman config options (AOKP, CM10, PA) (possibly with selection of baked rom control instead of regular AOKP)
Pre-installed T-mobile theme manager (sorts themes on market and makes them more easily readable for download, alows different sorting options)
Adblock for android
Inverted or regular gapp selection
Option to replace system applications with ones that exist on market (for example, talkatone includes free minutes, free texting, no ads, and you keep
your number) (Messaging 7 is an example of my preferred messaging application i use from the market)
Optional keyboard selection, from a large list (branches down from swype or no swype to other options, inside aroma)
Any additional mods for the phone included inside aroma (with descriptions)
Bloat removal included inside aroma
Gesture Control (if possible)
Boot animation config inside of aroma, with screenshots of each on OP
Possible Development Collaboration to include mods from specific roms to help in development of this one. (Which i would personally include the viper
battery control (never had better battery life) (some tweaks from SuperJelly, bareback) (I would also include the viper rom configuration options, if sense
was selected, after ported to jelly bean)
Oh and rom installer and zip file deletion script after it installs to remove that large ass download from your phone or tablet.
Multiple GPS navigation application options.
Idk maybe its just me, but if i could have one rom with a million different aroma options, id have 1 rom, i could re-do over and over, satisfying my rom addiction for months. I thought it sounded like a cool idea, dont know if its all completely possible but i hate finding an issue with a rom and having to download another 300mb+ file to find another problem with a rom. Its almost the same issue i have with media, and competition, except its a free thing.
To be honest. I wouldnt mind paying for a rom that had every feature every rom offered compiled into one very large aroma installer. 5-10-20 bucks and i have an ultra phone, and would never have to download another rom...Perm satisfying my rom addiction by creating an UltraROM, possibly using svn to not have to download updates. Or a pre-configured OTA, However in that option, and i was paying for it, you better have a good server lol, cause id rather download from dev host at 4-5MB/s than download from a **** server direct link that lets me dl at 100KB/s
Any thoughts?
Most of it is do able with my skill set just have to learn the installer aroma. But it why that is alot of work my private cm7 on my old g2x had alot of stuff just no options. It was alot of work and asop or cm10 needs to fix lte before i touch them to try but im going to learn aroma soon anyway. So ill think about it seems interesting.
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A thread for this. ? :banghead: why not choose the ROM that most meets these requests, and add the rest yourself?
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Ah haha hahaha
Is something wrong with the idea of a paid ROM that includes all the features present in other roms? Yes this is a thread, because as far as i know it hasnt been done. There isnt even a free rom that includes all the good features from every rom.
There are multiple roms with different features that you find appealing, which makes you want to switch between them all of the time, and actually causes the want to switch between said roms frequently. The desire for a perfect rom exists, however a perfect rom doesnt exist, so you go back and foruth between them all the time. Always wanting a new rom, always wanting a different one, always wanting to see that new feature. Which is the same way phones come out in stores. A new feature comes out, you want a new phone, even though just moments ago you loved your old one.
So its odd that roms would be developed in the same fashion wouldnt you agree? That there is always a new rom to make you want to switch, even though flashing presents the risk of damaging your device, and you loved the rom you were just on a moment ago, but it is missing that feature. A singular rom wouldnt have this issue, and if lots of options were presented in aroma, people would never get bored with it. If made through SVN people wouldnt get tired of downloading new additions to a large rom.
So if the rom was developed by multiple developers, Then the credits would be for every dev, not just one. Destroying the idea of singling a single rom out while others exist, because all devs would be working on it. Depending on the amount being spent, the devs could actually no longer need donations after a little while, as they would be making a sufficiant amount off of the rom itself, if it were paid, and if it werent, so many people would be using the rom that the idea that no donations would go through would be rediculous, they would be getting paid based off of the feelings of the consumer, which, if the rom were made this way, would be alot. As alot of people would want to use the rom.
Paid for rom? you serious?!?! that's just plain wrong...and impossible to get a rom that works with every single device out there
OH WOW!! So if I understand you correctly, you want every app, mod, font, kernel, theme and feature of all the ROMs in one nice package? Then you want it to be a universal type of ROM?
What are we talking about.....5-6 gigs here??
THEN you have the nerve to think people are going to jump at this project just because you throw a few dollars down?? I'm sorry but saying you would pay for a ROM is just nuts! Not sure where you think you are BUT this isn't the place to try to BUY a ROM! I can't speak for every developer on here BUT the ones I associate with, I can sure as hell speak for and I can tell you that money isn't our motivation!
Keep your 5 dollars or 20 dollars and head over to the development section and pick out a ROM like everyone else. If that doesn't do it for you, then roll them sleeves up and make one yourself!
there's this thing called a kitchen... thing is our devices couldn't hold such a large file to do that. and having it universal is near impossible. and lol at the flash some money.
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Fake outrage!!!
Seems like it could just be a options chooser zip instead of a full rom.
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Seems like it could just be a options chooser zip instead of a full rom.
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WOW, just WOW with this thread...
If you cannot find a ROM to suit you "needs" on this forum, then re-lock your phone and run stock....or build your own ROM. What you're asking for is never going to happen and undermines the entire point of what XDA is and stands for.
SMH....
With all the features you want.. the Rom zip file would be ridiculously large
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So im gonna say a few things and put them simply, as you guys seem to think this is a complete life ending discussion, if i put more than a few lines of text into a post.
If i want sense. i want a sense rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want CM10. i want a CM10 rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want AOKP. i want a AOKP rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want PA. i want a PA rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one, and new names.
If i want the 3 above to be in one rom, i want ONE rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one. And new names.
If i want MIUI. I want a MIUI rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
So for the nth time. Why do we have so many roms that are the same? this is open source people collaborate a little lol stop adding a small little game changer into a new rom every 5 seconds and just add it in to one that exists.
I mean, like mazda just said, you dont do it for money or donations. I immagine you do it for credit then or there just wouldnt be so many roms out there that are exactly alike. lol
btw, if this was a hate thread, there would have been more...well...hate. Unless your saying theres alot of random hate from people who stumbled apon this thread and decided it was against their religion not to reply with hate lol.
and then if you are, thats very normal for this device. Seems the only people who buy an evo have anger issues they need to work out.
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So im gonna say a few things and put them simply, as you guys seem to think this is a complete life ending discussion, if i put more than a few lines of text into a post.
If i want sense. i want a sense rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want CM10. i want a CM10 rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want AOKP. i want a AOKP rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
If i want PA. i want a PA rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one, and new names.
If i want the 3 above to be in one rom, i want ONE rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one. And new names.
If i want MIUI. I want a MIUI rom thats gonna be awesome. Not a billion of them with small differences in each one and new names.
So for the nth time. Why do we have so many roms that are the same? this is open source people collaborate a little lol stop adding a small little game changer into a new rom every 5 seconds and just add it in to one that exists.
I mean, like mazda just said, you dont do it for money or donations. I immagine you do it for credit then or there just wouldnt be so many roms out there that are exactly alike. lol
btw, if this was a hate thread, there would have been more...well...hate. Unless your saying theres alot of random hate from people who stumbled apon this thread and decided it was against their religion not to reply with hate lol.
and then if you are, thats very normal for this device. Seems the only people who buy an evo have anger issues they need to work out.
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I'm not hating by any means...just very confused as to why if you want all of these things in a "ROM" you don't just do it yourself?
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I'm not hating by any means...just very confused as to why if you want all of these things in a "ROM" you don't just do it yourself?
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Because not everyone can cook ROMs.
Topic turned into a flame fest, closed.
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I've got thick skin so feel free to throw things.
Watching the forum over the last month I've seen a proliferation of ROMs to the point that I've stopped updating - also partly because my favorite and second favorite teams have stopped putting out new versions. I finally succumbed to the burning urge to try another ROM last night but ended up with buyers "meh."
The ROM environment has become so fragmented that it's hard to know what the advantage of ROM a is over ROM b other than appearance.
A comment from one of the ROM makers brought the problem into sharp focus. "I've renamed my ROM because I didn't know one of my team members already had a ROM named X."
How can you be part of a "team" and not know what's being produced by that team?
It seems like we've got more themers producing work in the form of full ROMs rather than themes. I've got nothing against themers, I love packages that can completely change the look of my device and I'm always on the lookout for cool new themes.
I'd rather see ROM maintainers and themers working together where the former group produces faster and more reliable ROMs while the latter group produces mods for those ROMs.
Do the two groups just not want to work closely together or are there predominantly just mostly lone wolves working at the ROM/theme level in Android?
Wrong section. Suppose to go in q&a (QUESTIONS and answers)
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I disagree because it's directly applicable to development and is aimed at the developers. It's not a general q/a question
I agree with this. There's no need to make a "rom" if you just change the theme. Just make a theme and zip it up then post it in the themes section. And oh yea I believe people refer to these people as "winzippers".
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OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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I agree with Br1cK'd. There are a lot of "devs" lately that seem to be kanging together half broken ROM's. I can't tell you how often lately I've flashed something only to find major bugs, when the OP claims that the ROM is 100 percent working and bug free. It seems that most of the more skilled developers have moved on to newer devices. I'm all for people learning but they need to do a lot of quality control before they post their work on XDA.
are you tryna say my team member ferhanmm that did an error ? whats up with you son?>
But then... what actually constitutes a "Rom".
For as far as I know, according to CM6/7/Miui people, only theirs are truly "Roms", as they are built from ground up.
Everything else is just a themed stock Rom, or improvements to existing Sammy framework. (Which I still love btw)
If there were malicious Roms that are purposely bricking systems, then I would argue for stricter requirements for releases. But as it stands, I think the openness of this forum allows users and developers alike to find what makes them happy.
I just think in general, Rom devs/maintainers get more credit (Thanks button hits?) than purely themers. As there is a feeling that themers kind of "work for" Rom Devs... Which is why people tend to package their work as Roms instead of themes (So their work seems less derivative or what not)
Wrong section, but I agree.
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Br1cK'd said:
OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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first of all about the logcat ? did you learn alone ? i guess that if someone ask you, its nno bad to help is it ? because i bet some one showed you...now about the kang, so almost every rom here is a kang right ? almost all roms based on stocks from i9000s and stocks kb1`s isnt it ?... i guess this people have the right to learn, but seems you guys that already know a little dont like to help huh?
I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
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I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
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+1
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I did my first root about two month ago. Since then I have tried about 20 various roms or updates to them. I tried one last week that seemed to be a copy from an established developer. The other team got really pissy and used alot of immature slang when confronted. I will no longer use any roms from them. I agree that people should learn from the ground up before posting roms and stop the plagiarism.
I appreciate the hard work of the legitimate developers on this site.
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I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
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dont pay attentionn to this ppl fer.. day just stupids ... look at thhe quote i made above.. its just stupid, they want us to redo the same **** that is already made... for example.. whats the need to do a gps fix when jellette made one already ? its just stupid
them may be half a$$ed devs but them gotta have donate button
Bosina & Br1cK'd, first, thanks for your input and participation but this thread isn't about helping or not. It's about packing up thematic changes and publishing them as a ROM rather than a theme bundle.
If a group of members wants to debate about newbies not giving as much as they get, please start a new thread.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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this dude ha ha shut up im trying to read and your comments are unnecessary and full of hate and You act like You are a Big Time developer who dont take s**t from anyone , go smoke something and relax , i dont see Team Whisky complain or Eugene, just You big time savior .
But if the teams join there will be more people to split the donation money between so maybe thats why people stay separate ?
OMG!!!!! The past couple of days it's raining roms on xda. That's a nice thing (I suppose) so maybe they can move the forum from low activity devices back to front page???
I can't think of the traffic here when official CM comes outs!!!!! Will be having many moded versions of that
Maybe I am wrong but all these ROMs are only eye candy, nothing spectacular.
I agree, mostly(/all) are just themed stocks or CMs with the usual scripts and some apps added...
None off them has something really unique. The last good thing imho was the pdroid-patched thing, the next "big" thing i guess will be the official CM7. And maybe after this the unofficial CM9, if it gets usuable (as it isn't right now i guess).
any idea when the official cm7 will be out?
jajaja
its really true, many ROMs this days
so many to choose...
lol there is a samsung phone on
normald threads
and only has 15 roms
and 14 threads in themes and apps
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In my case I have to thank ketut for the chance to even get something running because he introduced this great kitchen to us! So, blame him
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I just want MIUI to be ported, and then I won't be needing any other rom.
Best "custom" ROM is stock with things I manually added after installing it. Its stock XXKPP, b84 fixed, turbo boost, lagfree, ext4, SetCPU 122-883MHz, Roboto font, removed a lot of stupid apps(TB), frozen market updater, Adw launcher with ICS dock, wallpaper and icons and that's it. All done by me step by step and working flawlessly.
Well,the only developer that works constantly on scripts for SGA is slaid480..Check does not work full time on scripts for ace..I am talking about rom scripts here,not roms or kernels...Do we have a choice?The answer is NO.You guys should be thankful to the handful of devs that we have got..Thanks to slaid480.We have all those awesome scripts..And tell me,you guys say roms are not good enough,that all of them are the same..Can you give me a few suggestions??We don't have ICS,Official CM9 or MIUI..The only thing we have,Froyo and GB..Its easy for you guys to think from a viewer's point of view...But hunk from a developer's point of view and you will get it..We are struggling to get some working good roms here and here some guys are,telling that all the roms are ****..
There's no chance we are going back to main forum or something..Just take a look at the forums of the defy and sga sections..you guts will be thunderstruck,i tell you.They have a huge number of developers,they get very good things,which gives them choice.and thats something we don't have,unless some awesome dev chooses to switch to sga..No offense to anyone.I am just telling the fact,we need to be satisfied with what we have got,not tell that whatever we have got is ****...
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Well spoken Prawesome!
Not all but most Roms coming up are more or less "just " a compilation of stuff the Devs give to the Community. The Devs gave us what we have, started with base and ended with the fine tuning .. We should, and in my case, I will not forget about this fact.
I am happy about every Rom that pops up and thankful to whoever made it but it's clear : nothing would work without the Dev who made it.
True true, without them, my phone would only be another midrange phone
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I am a long time ROMer, mainly sticking to MIUI, as I like the interface. I like to try and test many ROMs, as I'm sure many people here do.
I am finding it very frustrating that every release seems to have some critical flaw. I tell myself not to worry, that the next release will fix it, and usually it does. And brings in a new bug. Every release seems to fix something and break something else. Things that are most often broken:
- Call recording only records one side of the conversation
- WiFi tethering
- Camera issues
- Theme handling
I used to use Galnet for a while, as he paid a lot of attention to stability and bug fixing rather than inclusion of bleeding edge kernels or untested mod packages. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find another ROM cook like that since he left the scene. MIUI.us is my current ROM of choice, but they seem to be more a loosely knit group some of whom care about stability, others care more about givning you an AROMA installer that allows you to choose between half a dozen 0-day kernels, none of which have much field testing.
Is it really that hard to fix all of these things all at once? Is ROM cooking really that much of a totally random game of whack-a-mole? Are there any ROM devs out there that actually pay attention to basic functionality and stability of the system rather than switching to some new, bleeding edge kernel package that came out 27 seconds ago and therefore must be included right now?
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Is it really that hard to fix all of these things all at once? Is ROM cooking really that much of a totally random game of whack-a-mole?
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NOPE. It is easy. and you have my personal permission (I think that most devs would agree with me) to cook the ROM with the properties you want, as well as fixes.
No one wants to argue with you, and anyone is accepting your position that it is so easy.
Therefore - do it for yourself:fingers-crossed:
Samsung doesn't release all source codes for the hardware. To develop the whole thing from scratch, you'd probably have to write codes again for these, as the original code would only work with other Sammy-based codes. It's kinda difficult expecting it to work first time round when you're building from scratch.. At least this is my guess.
MIUI is based in CM, so would include any bugs that CM has. If you want stability, use one of the Sammy custom roms.
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NOPE. It is easy. and you have my personal permission (I think that most devs would agree with me) to cook the ROM with the properties you want, as well as fixes.
No one wants to argue with you, and anyone is accepting your position that it is so easy.
Therefore - do it for yourself:fingers-crossed:
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So what you're saying is that it is easy, but nobody has done it because I'm the only one that wants a working, stable phone.
Are you serious, or on drugs?
Dude devs put a lot of hours and hard work into making custom ROMS, they don't get paid (apart from donations) and when someone comes along and says these things it is very disrespectful.
I'm sure these bugs annoy the devs a lot more than they annoy you!
If you want a perfect, stable, super ROM then make one.
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So what you're saying is that it is easy, but nobody has done it because I'm the only one that wants a working, stable phone.
Are you serious, or on drugs?
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YOU have stated that it is EASY. YOU need the changes you mentioned.
So, if it is so easy, but you do not want to do it - using your friendly wording:
are you too stupid or too lazy?
As the title says, is there no developer interested in porting PACman to this phon, not to be disrespectfull or anything cause i really apreciate the work and time you are givind to this phone, but I'm kinda angry when i see that even my dad's phone (HTC Desire HD) has android 4.2.2 PACman, and most other phones for that matter, and this phone didnt even have android 4,1,2 or 4.2.1 PACman, I meant i know there was a Paranoid build, but Paranoid Android is missing too many features i need (or want) from AOKP and CM (like lockscreen shortcuts), so my question is if isn't there any developer working or porting PACman to this phone, or at least adding Paranoid Settings to one of the allready existing AOKP or CM roms?
The devs get requests like this every day. I think it's a little unfair, devs are people too, they have lives, jobs and families just like us. Still they have brought us many roms. And they promise even more like ubuntu os. I think we should all be grateful for what we have. And if a dev does decide to port one of our favourite roms.... Bonus . If not, maybe it's time to do a little research on rom development, maybe try building a rom. If a dev see's "a normal" user putting alof of effort into a certain project, theres more chance they will step in and try to help
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honestly Pacman is not worth doing.... it creates issues with other devs apps on the market, and i honestly don't fancy getting the rage from app devs
-Lloir
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The devs get requests like this every day. I think it's a little unfair, devs are people too, they have lives, jobs and families just like us. Still they have brought us many roms. And they promise even more like ubuntu os. I think we should all be grateful for what we have. And if a dev does decide to port one of our favourite roms.... Bonus . If not, maybe it's time to do a little research on rom development, maybe try building a rom. If a dev see's "a normal" user putting alof of effort into a certain project, theres more chance they will step in and try to help
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lol, first as I tryed to say it was not a request, more of a question if its comeing or not, and also i allready tryed to build my own rom, did a try with something easyer, and i was thinking i learned all i needed and downloaded the sources for cm9 and then tryed and it took me 5 days to manage to figure out how to get it build a flashable zip, cause it wouldnt build a zip file (not talking about this phone, and was long ago for my dads htc desire hd), and after that it ofc failed when i flashed it as in 1st i forgot to sign it and it didnt flash, then i did sign it and flashed, then flashed boot.img and ofc got a fail, wouldnt even get after the htc boot screen, so yah, if i could belive me i would try to build PACman, atm i only know the basic android things, like decompiling, compiling, smaling, backsmaling and signing apks, dont even remember how and what i did in my try to build cm9, and yah, im preety sure id fail again, plus at the time i tryed that i had a bit of time, now i have exams every week, so i totally understand the devs are bussy people and as i sayd or at least tryeing to say this was a question and not a request, i can live without it, even if i will silently hope it will happen one day
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honestly Pacman is not worth doing.... it creates issues with other devs apps on the market, and i honestly don't fancy getting the rage from app devs
-Lloir
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I dont really understand what you are trying to say, you meant some apps are not working on PACman, cause thats what I understand, also sorry for takeing your time?
EDIT: NVM this question/request, i just found the xposed framework and the xposed app settings and those make exactly what i want, im so happy now, for those that want to know what im talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401 (for the xposed framework) and http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/threads/xposed-app-settings.5486/ (for the app settings)
I have a question regarding [ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
In review videos I have seen an AoCP options section in Settings but I have flashed this build and do not have that option. Is this deliberately missing in this build?
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So far so good with this ROM but I have another question/concern regarding this ROM. So far it's been the most stable ROM I have used, other than stock, but I really do not like the orange system UI. I'm sure some people love it but since blue is my favourite colour, I love the "stock" blue of most Android ROMs and wish there was an easy way to change this. The OP for the AoCP ROM states that there are AoCP themes available in the market but they are all paid themes. I don't think I should have to pay to get my ROM back to stock look. This seems like a cheap nickel and dime scheme. I would much rather donate more money to the AoCP project than pay $0.99 for something that should come stock. Give people the option to pick the orange or blue theme in the theme chooser.
I am not trying to bash AoCP developers, I appreciate the work they have done on this ROM since it is the most stable one I have used (plus it's 4.2.2 while Rogers is stuck on 4.0.4 and still waiting for 4.1.2!), we just shouldn't have to pay not to have the ugly orange UI. This UI would be great around Halloween but other than that, stock blue please! If AoCP does this I would donate more money to their cause rather than buying a $0.99 theme.
to answer your first question it is missing due to this being an early build of 4.2.2 and they haven't gotten everything added in that they want.
The second question: it is their rom and they like the orange color. There is no where that says you have to flash their rom on your phone. They can make it whatever color they want. There are plenty of other theme chooser themes out there that are free that you could apply to the rom, or you could find another rom that suits your color needs. here is a thread on xda that has many themes to choose from
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to answer your first question it is missing due to this being an early build of 4.2.2 and they haven't gotten everything added in that they want.
The second question: it is their rom and they like the orange color. There is no where that says you have to flash their rom on your phone. They can make it whatever color they want. There are plenty of other theme chooser themes out there that are free that you could apply to the rom, or you could find another rom that suits your color needs. here is a thread on xda that has many themes to choose from
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Hi,
Thanks for the input. I was wondering why these options were missing because otherwise, it's not really different than CM 10.1, other than being a lot more stable thankfully, which is definitely worth it!
I agree that they can choose whatever colour that they want for their ROM BUT orange is a colour that you have to really love for a system UI. You don't see Apple, Google, Windows Phone or BlackBerry using orange for their default UIs and that's because it is something that most people will not like. The problem I have is that to get my stock UI colour back, I'm expected to pay them for this. I would much rather donate $10 to their cause as opposed to being nickel and dimed for a $0.99 theme. It wouldn't be hard to give users the choice to switch to the default blue UI. Browsing through the ROM thread, there are many people unhappy with the orange UI. Also, I just want the stock UI, not different icons/fonts/etc. Thankfully with Nova Launcher I can get rid of the ugly orange icons and use the stock Jelly Bean ones but I still get stuck with the rest of the orange UI. Even if I use another theme from someone else, it doesn't get rid of all of the orange. AoCP has deeply embedded the orange UI into every possible place and other themes don't fully get rid of this. So, to fully get rid of it, you have to pay them and like I said, I would pay them MORE to support them rather than have to pay to get rid of the orange. It's simply the principle of it.
The developers make stuff for themselves because they can do that stuff. They only have to please themselves.
They share their work with us, and we can enjoy it or not.
Would it be ok to go to Michelangelo and say "Thats a pretty girl with a nice smile, but most men like blondes. Redo her with blonde hair."
Pay the buck for the theme and stop complaining. Artists are tempermental -- we don't want to lose our developers!
rangercaptain said:
The developers make stuff for themselves because they can do that stuff. They only have to please themselves.
They share their work with us, and we can enjoy it or not.
Would it be ok to go to Michelangelo and say "Thats a pretty girl with a nice smile, but most men like blondes. Redo her with blonde hair."
Pay the buck for the theme and stop complaining. Artists are tempermental -- we don't want to lose our developers!
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Comparing a developer to Michelangelo is a stretch of the imagination. I appreciate their hard work but developers only have to please themselves if they truly make it for themselves. Once they release it to the public, it's fair game for criticism. I think they would gain more support and donations if this simple change was implemented. Leave the default theme orange but let the user decide via the theme chooser. Like I said already, I would donate more than the $0.99 theme price if this happens.
Even if I do pay them for one of their themes, none of them truly offer the stock experience, which is what I am looking for. One of the reasons why I install ROMs is because I don't like the Samsung stock ROM. I like the vanilla Jelly Bean interface. I also like the modifications that Paranoid Android does with changing the DPI of individual apps but it has proven to be unstable, rebooting multiple times a day. So far, this is the only ROM that has been truly stable so far and my only real problem with it is the orange UI, as other people have voiced as well.
OP-Please read my signature line, and then read it again.....because every word is true.
Developers here exist out of desire to improve their personal devices, and often choose to openly share what they have created with us, FOR FREE. And they take nothing in return. But on occasion, kind members give back to them, as a token of appreciation for the countless hours they spend building code we freely use and enjoy. If you are unable to enjoy their creations, you have the choice to leave your device stock, and trust in the Factory team that calls your device good enough in it's mass produced form.
Developers are artists in their own right, and deserve the respect they have clearly earned.
Perhaps you should create your own ROM, and change the orange UI to something more appealing to your tastes. And share it with us for free after you have spent 100's of hours working on it, using your time and resources. I'd like that very much.
But if you lack the ability or the time to create a non-orange themed rom, perhaps you could just say THANK YOU, to the developer who did, and move on to something less orange.
Happy flashing......g