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I saw this video today and wondering that device can work on other brand like moto.
I have a TV without DLNA therefore i m looking for a device like that.
Supposely DLNA is not only for HTC, it's a wifi technology.
or maybe it's a android function?
anyway if anyone understand how that work please answer me. thx:good:
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
kwanying said:
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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I believe that Sonys implementation of Miracast is wrong.
From what I read, Miracast it self allows for up to 10 connections and as you say your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can handle both network connection and Miracast.
There's two threads at Sony's Xperia Forum that discuss this problem.
At first the Xperia Team said it was by design, but when several users explained that Samsung phones can have a Wifi connection active at the same time and that all Nexus phones running 4.2.2 could also handle this,
then the Xperia Team said that they would escalate the issue, but after that there has been no more feedback...
Here's the threads at Sony's Xperia Forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/127452?start=0&tstart=0
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/453753#453753
This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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actually the tablet z uses MIMO and has 2 antennas. in my opinion it´s clearly a software restriction.
I had the same issue since i bought the dock and push2tv for the same reason. Unfortunately nothing so far. It is definitely a software problem as Sony seems to have fixed it with the Xperia Z Ultra. It works fine while still connected to wifi.
The Xperia Z disconnects also by the way.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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That's weird if it works on the T. I think this needs to be clarified. If it does, Sony really should be able to make it work, or else asked why they went backwards with the Z/TZ by changing the Wi-Fi specs/antennas.
I am going to go and check my Nexus 4 and see if that retains the connection. Previously I couldn't connect it to my TV but a new LG update on the TV has hopefully fixed things.
So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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Right, just tried my Nexus 4 and it does keep the Wi-Fi connection. However, there's a lot more lag and the TV image doesn't quite keep up. What's more, the picture breaks up when it doesn't on the Xperia Z.
However, having an Internet connection does of course mean you can now stream TV and movies with Netflix or Google Play. Play crashed when playing a film though, and I have to say I didn't realise it could output a different screen. Netflix doesn't support this, and I'm not sure what else might (perhaps YouTube and other Google apps?).
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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I agree that the Chromecast way of doing things is the way forward for streaming services. However, I'd have liked to be able to play games without lag/dropped frames on the big-screen - and it seems that with or without the Wi-Fi connection staying open, the quality isn't quite there.
Maybe Snapdragon 800 improves this - and that could be something to sway me towards Honami - but perhaps Miracast will remain useful for showing off photo and videos stored locally (your own content) as a far better option than DLNA that rarely, if ever, works with modern video formats and resolutions.
Things like Miracast etc. are mostly used at home, where you have your TV or projector.
But at home it's not necessary to store the videos on a tablet and then stream them to the TV.
At home one has some kind of NAS from which the files are fetched.
I admit that for a long time I also thought about using the tablet as media hub / storage.
But if one thinks a bit about it and researches, it becomes obvious that much better and tried-and-tested options exist.
And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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Even MHL slows the phone down, which must be a hardware limitation of the phone.
SlimPort is even worse. I don't know what sort of handshaking is carried out with that, but on my Nexus 4 when I was at CES I was on the stand of a company making them and we hooked my phone up to have the phone crash (even restarting on occasion) within seconds of connecting it.
I'd be interested to see if Snapdragon 800 has less problems with TV output, via Miracast or a cable - but the idea of using the smartphone as a remote to control streaming directly to a device (like a TV with a wired Internet connection) certainly makes sense. Google has once again come up with something great here, and it's probably totally the opposite of the direction Apple intends to take TV in the future.
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Hi guys, has anyone else had problems connecting their XTZ using miracast? I have the push2tv and my HTC One connects perfectly, but my Xperia tablet gives the error "Could not turn on screen mirroring. The output device does not support HDCP". It seems very strange as the tablet is listed the supported devices on Netgear's site.
I have the 312 version, and have the latest firmware on the push2tv.
this problem definitely not solved within 4.2 update. Dissapointing.
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This ist what I posted in the sony forum thread under talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/Can-t-do-Screen-Mirroring-miracast-and-WiFi-connection/td-p/333179/page/3[/url]
Sooo, installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 (based on Android 4.3 which supports WiDi/Miracast natively) and see there:
WIDI/Miracast and the connection to my home WiFi Network work simultaneously.....!!!
So Sony, two lessons for you here:
1. Get of your collective ***** and get Android 4.3 going without nerfing perfectly fine core features
2. If you're going the forum/community way, provide correct information (aka really ask your developers) and don't spew half informed nonsense/play the information hiding game...
To everyone else here: give them ****, or they will never learn!
PS: Who wants to try, google Cyanogenmod ("Pollux" -for LTE variant- or "Pollux_Windy" -for WiFi only variant-). Warning!: Possible Warranty void when flashing custom ROMS
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=> SW Issue !!!
I've been trying to get the screen mirroring function to work.
The phone detects the TV, and the TV says the phone is connected - but then the phone says something to the effect of 'starting screen mirroring' - it comes up with text that seems to indicate that the pairing has initialized, and a split second later you see a message saying screen sharing has ended on both the TV and the phone.
It does not actually display the screen for even a second before disconnecting.
Any ideas?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 at the moment.
Trying to pair with a Samsung F6800 Smart TV. (TV firmware is completely up to date).
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I've been trying to get the screen mirroring function to work.
The phone detects the TV, and the TV says the phone is connected - but then the phone says something to the effect of 'starting screen mirroring' - it comes up with text that seems to indicate that the pairing has initialized, and a split second later you see a message saying screen sharing has ended on both the TV and the phone.
It does not actually display the screen for even a second before disconnecting.
Any ideas?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 at the moment.
Trying to pair with a Samsung F6800 Smart TV. (TV firmware is completely up to date).
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locked bootloader?
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locked bootloader?
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Alas, yes.
Cannot be unlocked.
hassanmahmood said:
Alas, yes.
Cannot be unlocked.
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well it can't be that. Locked bootloaders wont mirror a screen.
You using wifi direct to mirror? not going through a 3rd party screencast device?
Have you done it before?? I mean is youe TV Wi-Fi CERTIFIED Miracast™ ??
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well it can't be that. Locked bootloaders wont mirror a screen.
You using wifi direct to mirror? not going through a 3rd party screencast device?
Have you done it before?? I mean is youe TV Wi-Fi CERTIFIED Miracast™ ??
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It is definitely Miracast certified.
And I've tried both Wifi direct and over my router.
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It is definitely Miracast certified.
And I've tried both Wifi direct and over my router.
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thats about as much help as I can offer. Can't test my device using mirror cast as its broken.
Its not the locked boot loader... I am running the 6806 and mirroring with my Samsung F8000 TV. I can mirror my phones different screens with not issues. However if I try and play a movie from Play movies, it is very choppy dropping frames. My understanding this has to do with the Bluetooth or something dropping out but not sure.
Otherwise I can mirror with no issues using stock Sony ROM on Android 4.3.
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Its not the locked boot loader... I am running the 6806 and mirroring with my Samsung F8000 TV. I can mirror my phones different screens with not issues. However if I try and play a movie from Play movies, it is very choppy dropping frames. My understanding this has to do with the Bluetooth or something dropping out but not sure.
Otherwise I can mirror with no issues using stock Sony ROM on Android 4.3.
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What firmware are you running? And could you explain how you got the two connected?
I think your issue with streaming might have to do with your router - I am able to stream movies fine - but have essentially the opposite issue whereby I can't seem to get the mirroring to work.
I'd really appreciate some insight.
Samsung Miracast devices (such as TV's and adapters) sadly only work with Samsung phones.
My ZU, nexus 5 and nexus 7 will not pair with my Samsung TV and Samsung BR DVD player (which has miracast).
You should try to get a generic Miracast adapter. PTV3000 works with the Sony ZU for me.
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Samsung Miracast devices (such as TV's and adapters) sadly only work with Samsung phones.
My ZU, nexus 5 and nexus 7 will not pair with my Samsung TV and Samsung BR DVD player (which has miracast).
You should try to get a generic Miracast adapter. PTV3000 works with the Sony ZU for me.
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But the previous guy said he has his working with a Samsung F8000
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But the previous guy said he has his working with a Samsung F8000
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It used to work before Samsung released a software update for my TV and BR DVD. After the recent update, only Samsung phones can connect to the TV. I had a friend with with a Galaxy S4 and he was able to connect but i am not able to mirror with my Nexus 5 / 7 (2013) and XZU anymore.
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It used to work before Samsung released a software update for my TV and BR DVD. After the recent update, only Samsung phones can connect to the TV. I had a friend with with a Galaxy S4 and he was able to connect but i am not able to mirror with my Nexus 5 / 7 (2013) and XZU anymore.
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That can't be allowed, right? The miracast certified thing should prevent those market strats. Otherwise it should called samsung mirror or something.
My miracast certified lg also don't mirror, something like incompatible device.... i'm wundering....
herogjan said:
That can't be allowed, right? The miracast certified thing should prevent those market strats. Otherwise it should called samsung mirror or something.
My miracast certified lg also don't mirror, something like incompatible device.... i'm wundering....
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Mine doesn't give me an actual error reason - it just waits a while and says 'Screen Mirroring ended' without actually connecting.
Although on the TV it says 'connected to Xperia Z Ultra' whilst on the phone it says 'preparing to mirror' - but eventually I get messages on both screens saying the mirroring has ended.
No idea why this is - I should also have thought that Miracast certified devices will communicate with one another no matter what.
I'm very annoyed by this - even after updating to the latest firmware on both devices I cannot get them to connect to one another.
But 'throwing' stuff works perfectly fine - even 1080p content will stream to my TV via my router without any skips whatsoever - incredibly frustrating.
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Mine doesn't give me an actual error reason - it just waits a while and says 'Screen Mirroring ended' without actually connecting.
Although on the TV it says 'connected to Xperia Z Ultra' whilst on the phone it says 'preparing to mirror' - but eventually I get messages on both screens saying the mirroring has ended.
No idea why this is - I should also have thought that Miracast certified devices will communicate with one another no matter what.
I'm very annoyed by this - even after updating to the latest firmware on both devices I cannot get them to connect to one another.
But 'throwing' stuff works perfectly fine - even 1080p content will stream to my TV via my router without any skips whatsoever - incredibly frustrating.
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I am having the same problem. I have c6806 rooted, with unlock bootloader, running stock android 4.3. And it just wont work. It will not connect to my Sony tv. Any ideas??
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I am having the same problem. I have c6806 rooted, with unlock bootloader, running stock android 4.3. And it just wont work. It will not connect to my Sony tv. Any ideas??
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I reckon it's reliant on drm keys so won't work with unlocked bootloader. You'd have to relock bootloader and restore ta partition before it would work.
Taken from Wikipedia: " The technology was promoted to work across devices, regardless of brand. Miracast devices negotiate settings for each connection, which simplifies the process for the users. In particular, it obviates having to worry about format orcodec*details.[14]*Miracast is "effectively a wireless*HDMI cable, copying everything from one screen to another using the H.264 codec and its own*digital rights management*(DRM) layer emulating the HDMI system". The Wi-Fi Alliance suggested that Miracast could also be used by a*set-top box*wanting to*streamcontent to a TV, or tablet."
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I reckon it's reliant on drm keys so won't work with unlocked bootloader. You'd have to relock bootloader and restore ta partition before it would work.
Taken from Wikipedia: " The technology was promoted to work across devices, regardless of brand. Miracast devices negotiate settings for each connection, which simplifies the process for the users. In particular, it obviates having to worry about format orcodec*details.[14]*Miracast is "effectively a wireless*HDMI cable, copying everything from one screen to another using the H.264 codec and its own*digital rights management*(DRM) layer emulating the HDMI system". The Wi-Fi Alliance suggested that Miracast could also be used by a*set-top box*wanting to*streamcontent to a TV, or tablet."
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well if that's the case.....i'm screwed. I purchased the phone used. It was already rooted but on stock firmware. I made a ta backup when i got it. Put screen mirror didn't work back then either. so I guess just s.o.l??
hassanmahmood said:
I've been trying to get the screen mirroring function to work.
The phone detects the TV, and the TV says the phone is connected - but then the phone says something to the effect of 'starting screen mirroring' - it comes up with text that seems to indicate that the pairing has initialized, and a split second later you see a message saying screen sharing has ended on both the TV and the phone.
It does not actually display the screen for even a second before disconnecting.
Any ideas?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 at the moment.
Trying to pair with a Samsung F6800 Smart TV. (TV firmware is completely up to date).
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Last week I was shopping for smart TV's and try my Xperia Z Ultra 6833 runnning 4.3 not rooted. the salesman told me to try the screen mirroring in there High-end Samsung Smart TV.. but I also cant connect. (I didn't bother to try Samsung! in the first place.To be Honest! crappy brand. but he insist). so i never bought that TV.. Ive tried it to LG and other brands of smart tv its working fine. specially on a Bravia (lighting fast mirroring., the downside of it. i notice if your not using a sony the screen mirroring is kinda laggy.
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Last week I was shopping for smart TV's and try my Xperia Z Ultra 6833 runnning 4.3 not rooted. the salesman told me to try the screen mirroring in there High-end Samsung Smart TV.. but I also cant connect. (I didn't bother to try Samsung! in the first place.To be Honest! crappy brand. but he insist). so i never bought that TV.. Ive tried it to LG and other brands of smart tv its working fine. specially on a Bravia (lighting fast mirroring., the downside of it. i notice if your not using a sony the screen mirroring is kinda laggy.
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Mine works with the Samsung with absolutely no lag at all after I updated my tv firmware.
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Mine works with the Samsung with absolutely no lag at all after I updated my tv firmware.
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Locked bootloader? Or unlocked?
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Locked bootloader? Or unlocked?
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Hi Everyone,
First let me say this site is awesome and I really appreciate what you all do here. I have had my LG G Pad for a while now and I always loved it. The main use was Kodi and Miracast to my 55" TV using a Microsoft wireless USB display adapter. I believe it was running Lollipop from AT&T and always worked pretty good. However, I had started to notice it lagging etc and wanted to clear off all the AT&T bloatware. I was able to get it rooted to Lineage, but in doing so, I lost the main feature I use the tablet for, Miracast. I was able to find the "cast" under the display options, but it will not detect the Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter.
Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks
I have never been able to download any Netflix films on my Sony Z2 tablet to watch say on a flight or on holiday. Has anyone managed to sort this out, or is this a hardware problem. My tablet is currently on Android 6.0.1 and I am considering doing a root and installing Android 8.1 but wonder would this make any difference to the issue.
Anyone had any success with this issue?
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I have never been able to download any Netflix films on my Sony Z2 tablet to watch say on a flight or on holiday. Has anyone managed to sort this out, or is this a hardware problem. My tablet is currently on Android 6.0.1 and I am considering doing a root and installing Android 8.1 but wonder would this make any difference to the issue.
Anyone had any success with this issue?
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I've updatet my device to Android 9.0 no probs with download etc.. but videos wouldn't be played in Full-HD