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Would you buy the Huawei Honor Magic ?
Honor magic details
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-magic/
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2Nzk3ODg1Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2&spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLa3SunEe0&t=4s
Honor Magic Disassembled:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Honor magic designed by Things To Be:
https://www.dexigner.com/news/29618
Early hands on reviews:
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Pros over P9 plus:
Handy size 5.1inch screen
curved edge screen/pebble shape
2k screen
front finger scanner with navigation controls
New eye & face scanner/infra red camera for access & privacy
Frame sensor for hand recognition
Fast charging (70% in 20 mins)
(Some contextual aware features which most likely will not work outside China)
New Variant UI that will be developed differently from EMUI, with more youth and innovation centric.
Cons:
Not Leica branded lens and photo processing
No external memory card
Huawei branding (530$ is high for a budget branded "Honor" phone)
P9 plus has larger screen & larger battery
No pressure touch screen (Google has their software alternative though)
No stereo speakers
No changes:
12mp dual camera (not the 20mp of mate 9)
Kirin 950
Amoled Screen
If the magic has the newer Kirin 960 (LPDDR4+UFS2.1 Flash memory + Mali G71MP8) i would have gone for it without a thought. But now its not so easy. The whole front finger print sensor and eye scanner features makes it very tempting for me as when im at my work desk having to put password every time is such a pain. The P9 plus still looks very gorgeous, slim and premium and love it design wise while the Honor magic design looks pretty cool, radical & futurish. Im not a camera guy so not really important for me to have that latest best of the best camera.
Would you take the risk and go for honor Magic now or patient enough to wait another 6-8 months for the p10 which would have the Kirin 960, top notch camera, eye scanner, front finger print and bluetooth 5.0 but with more hefty price tag.
Would never go for less battery ...
xeizo said:
Would never go for less battery ...
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Has fast charging though. If the 2k screen on the 2900mah can last a day with no worrying about, then a 30 minute charge is not a problem for me personally. The p9 plus for me is caught in between as it lasts like 1 and half day and has to be charged every day as well to keep up that other half day.
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
marc_ecko28 said:
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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The battery on the magic is built different, as well as additional safety measures in place. It has a 5V/8A charger.
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
kms108 said:
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
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Yes you can for sure. All EMUI phones can. We usually use the pre-installed Huawei appstore to download playstore.
Also read this thread here for a general idea of what to expect on software side on a China version phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9-plus/help/to-vie-al10-t3386700
Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
warea said:
Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
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I spoken to a friend who works for Huawei, he hasn't heard about the magic, but did say that it will not be available in Hong Kong for sure, Hong Kong has stopped selling Huawei Honor series for a good few years now, and has concertrated on the P series and Mate, mid range phones like the honor series won't be available, so my only choice is to buy it direct from china, hopefully they do sell them locally from a authorized store, as I don't buy phones through online, although I do know you can get the magic from 4 huawei authorised online site. So once I get to see this phone in person I will get it on the 9th of next month.
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
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I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
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Yes It might be on stores but from resellers with price inflated by 300-500 CNY im guessing. The most preferred option for you might be if you have a friend in China who can order it online and you can collect it since you will visit China anyway.
I ordered one early from Aliexpress re sellers at 642$ (21% increase from original price which is high and won't recommend for everyone) as a preorder with a basic non-quick 3 week shipping. The resellers on Aliexpress have now inflated the price to ridiculous 750 to 900$. I will get my phone from the 1st batch which they are only receiving in past couple days. The second batch is being sold online on 1st of January i think.
There is a dedicated forum here now btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/magic
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the processor is 8974AB snappy 800 not 801...
nice article.. i ll also be in koramangla on aug 25th working for flipkart only if u can lemme know the PG rates there... it will help me a great deal...i l b there for two months
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and xiaomi sells cheap because its following the razor-cartridge model.. it dreams to make money from purchases from the mi store.. themes and all.. plus it is retailing only through our beloved flipkart because it cannot afford to go to physical retail outlets.. because it cannot manufacture so many units right now.. only samsung and apple can mass produce mobile phones and even they have trouble getting parts.. OIS and 13MP camera was not there in note 2 because of sensor unavailability from sony.. they cannot serve sucha high demand right now.. somewhat similar to what bezos is doing with firephone.. but their strategy is different.. to curb high demand and check whether their phone will succeed or not and to curb losses he has his phone priced $650 LOL
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and i ordered one mi3 today.. have u been facing any issues with the phone? just before i accept with COD.. it ll be helpful
also i ordered the nillkins (whatever the spellings are) tempered glass screen protector for 750 from ebay and also their frost hard cover
do u use any of these? any suggestions are welcome
Siddarth Malik said:
the processor is 8974AB snappy 800 not 801...
nice article.. i ll also be in koramangla on aug 25th working for flipkart only if u can lemme know the PG rates there... it will help me a great deal...i l b there for two months
a few additions
and xiaomi sells cheap because its following the razor-cartridge model.. it dreams to make money from purchases from the mi store.. themes and all.. plus it is retailing only through our beloved flipkart because it cannot afford to go to physical retail outlets.. because it cannot manufacture so many units right now.. only samsung and apple can mass produce mobile phones and even they have trouble getting parts.. OIS and 13MP camera was not there in note 2 because of sensor unavailability from sony.. they cannot serve sucha high demand right now.. somewhat similar to what bezos is doing with firephone.. but their strategy is different.. to curb high demand and check whether their phone will succeed or not and to curb losses he has his phone priced $650 LOL
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and i ordered one mi3 today.. have u been facing any issues with the phone? just before i accept with COD.. it ll be helpful
also i ordered the nillkins (whatever the spellings are) tempered glass screen protector for 750 from ebay and also their frost hard cover
do u use any of these? any suggestions are welcome
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The processor is advertised as Snapdragon 800, for some reason, but all the mobile phones we're getting from Flipkart have Snapdragon 801. Here's a screenshot to prove it:
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And I see, but there was this video on YouTube that clearly mentioned the same what I've said. I can see the point you're trying to make, but Xiaomi isn't some backyard company now, is it? It's considered the 'Apple of China', how much ever they hate being called that. I'm sure they'll have the money to at least be in talks with physically retail stores and distributors. If not, you could be right. They went for the cheaper and affordable option of going through Flipkart. Either way, it's a win-win for us!
I'm sorry, but I can't comment on any of the products you've bought from eBay, as I haven't used them myself. I'm actually waiting for the original accessories to release, but a screen guard worth 750 should be worth it's price. When it does arrive, upload the pictures and store link on this thread so others can buy it!
Thanks for reading!
Amruth Pillai said:
The processor is advertised as Snapdragon 800, for some reason, but all the mobile phones we're getting from Flipkart have Snapdragon 801. Here's a screenshot to prove it:
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And I see, but there was this video on YouTube that clearly mentioned the same what I've said. I can see the point you're trying to make, but Xiaomi isn't some backyard company now, is it? It's considered the 'Apple of China', how much ever they hate being called that. I'm sure they'll have the money to at least be in talks with physically retail stores and distributors. If not, you could be right. They went for the cheaper and affordable option of going through Flipkart. Either way, it's a win-win for us!
I'm sorry, but I can't comment on any of the products you've bought from eBay, as I haven't used them myself. I'm actually waiting for the original accessories to release, but a screen guard worth 750 should be worth it's price. When it does arrive, upload the pictures and store link on this thread so others can buy it!
Thanks for reading!
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SNAPDRAGON 801?!?!? what are your benchmark scores?
DustinDep said:
SNAPDRAGON 801?!?!? what are your benchmark scores?
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Yup msm8974 is sd 800
Msm8974ac/ab is sd801
DustinDep said:
SNAPDRAGON 801?!?!? what are your benchmark scores?
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It has msm8274ab (same as 8974ab but without lte support) which is sometimes recognized as snapdragon 801! The msm8974ac is snapdragon 801! The only difference between the two is that msm8974ab has clock speed 2.26ghz and emmc 4.5 while the msm8974ac has 2.46ghz and emmc 5.0! The benchmark difference is way too small! my mi3 gets 42k on antutu 5 beta while I have seen that mi4 with 801 gets around 42-43k!
Updated the review.
1) Added a few more photographs from the camera to showcase it's true potential.
2) Added a link to a few tried & tested accessories in the bottom of the post, with a video thanks to Devansh Arora!
3) Added a section called 'The Cloud' explaining how MiCloud, Dropbox and KuaiPan works on the device, a must read Thanks for the idea, Subham Bapna!
4) Added an FAQ on After-Sales Support, a must read again!
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Thank you for all your response!
Funny unboxing.. You are cool guy i see.
In case you haven't heard, the all new successor to our beloved HAM2 is the Mate7! Whether or not Huawei went through 4 different Mate models that we never knew about, I'll never know. I presume (since many people haven't heard of Huawei) they want the HAM7 to look "one step ahead" of the iPhone 6 and the Galaxy S6.
Here's the official Huawei page for the Mate7, and some pictures.
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Interestingly, the HAM7 already has its own XDA forum, whereas our phone only got one after months and months of nagging.
Height
157.0mm
Width
81.0mm
Depth
7.9mm
Weight
About 185g (including the battery)
Display
6.0" FHD Screen,1080P (1920 x 1080), 368PPI 16M colors
CPU
Hisilicon Kirin 925
4x1.8GHz + 4x1.3GHz + 1x230MHz
Operation System
Android™ 4.4/HUAWEI Emotion UI 3.0
Memory
RAM : 2 GB
ROM : 16 GB
Full specs here
Anyways, what do you think? Will you be getting this phone?
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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It looks awesome.
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ecvision said:
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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Agreed. They are certainly ramping up to compete with the other big guys here. After having the HAM2 I have no reason to believe I'll go back to those others.
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That design is on point!
anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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They are Huawei in house chip designers....
My Mate 2 MT2-L05 has a Hisilicon Kirin 910 chip in it which runs everything flawlessly, and if you look in the benchmarking thread, it also appears to be considerably faster than the Qualcomm 400 Snapdragon in the MT2-L03 US version, although until the MT2-L03 runs on 4.4.2 a direct comparison is slightly unfair.
The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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Agreed.
Current phones, Ascend Mate 2, LG G3, LG G2, LG Lucid 3. Tablets, Nexus 7, LG GPad. I like the Ascend Mate 2 the best.
Most of the width and weight seems to be the battery. I changed the DPI to 264 and if not for application issues 240 was perfect screen is bright and clear flexible frame and screen I am more than impressed. Adjustments made and the phone is super snappy. I agree about the button placement though. Other than that really taken with this phone.
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
I would rather go with the new nexus if I was to buy anything else for that price range
Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
Wish it had been this price when I bought my HAM2
Mate 7 is still too pricy for me... And doesn't have full network support only 1/2 bands supported so many places in the rural area I live in wouldn't have signal as I found out with my previous phone before the mate 2. I love the full network support and better connectivity with this $300 phone. 550 is still too much in my opinion.
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Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
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Yeah you are right, hadn't thought about that.
JJ2525 said:
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
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Just want to mention that there is no official US version yet, this is an individual seller, so no warranty, no support, even seller reputation need put into consideration. Of course network/band will be another issue.
The S6 Edge is really calling my name right now. I wanted a smaller phone when I had the Note 3 but Gear VR suckered me in to a Note 4. I don't mind losing the SD card or battery because I plan on getting the 64GB model and morphie battery case for those days when I'm not near a charger. Anybody doing the same?
Not sure if I want to go to a smaller screen. I also really like the Note 4.
iam a galaxy fan from the s1 till note3 .But no more samsung for me . Not that i dislike my note3 .But i think the price is way to much. It looks like samsung wants to do the same as apple les specs the more in price. I bought my note3 when it was half a year on the market payd 465 euros for it .When i compaired it to the s5 it was a bargain(649 euro april 2014) . I have more ram more internal mem and the cpu wasnt that much faster than my note3.
Now that i see prices of 699 799 till 1099 euro .There are other brands that have the same specs withn a few months (oneplus ,xiaomi) for a much cheaper price. And tell me what can the s6 do what my note 3 doesnt.
Also when you see all electronic gadgets from tv to bluray players and so on they became cheaper by the time even so with new 4k tv's . But with cellphones its the other way around .Sounds more in my ears that they think oh the more we ask the more they want it .
i just gave my wife my note 4 and im using her upgrade to get a galaxy
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iam a galaxy fan from the s1 till note3 .But no more samsung for me . Not that i dislike my note3 .But i think the price is way to much. It looks like samsung wants to do the same as apple les specs the more in price. I bought my note3 when it was half a year on the market payd 465 euros for it .When i compaired it to the s5 it was a bargain(649 euro april 2014) . I have more ram more internal mem and the cpu wasnt that much faster than my note3.
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Can you honestly say that Samsung is giving less specs here, though? I do not defend Samsung for cutting sd card support in the S6, but people need to have some perspective. The Note series are different than the S series. I have no idea why you are comparing them as if they were exchangeable. And if you care so much for a fast CPU, I'd say good luck finding a phone faster than the S6 this year. (except for the Note 5, that is)
this is probably what a note 5 is gonna look like
during a MWC 2015 Q&A session Samsung’s vice president of product strategy confirmed that the company is considering using a curved Edge display for the next Galaxy Note handset
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i am going to change from my Note 4 Exynos to the golden S6 Edge ...because its so amazing strong and beautiful...and also because my Note 4 modell ( N910U ) is a forgotten one ( updates ) on the side of Samsung.. and also because this time Samsung is using one chip only for the whole world..:good:
I would have say Note 4 Edge because of bigger screen but when I saw the camera samples of the S6 Edge..., now we have to wait to see if Samsung can produce the same results on Note 4 Edge with an update of the FW
Samsung spec is good. But softwares not that great. All icon look same from s2 to s6. Need something better.
beautiful
phone - no doubt
but seriously the prices are OTT -
in this day and age with all the competition thats out there.... sorry samsung but i havent bought a phone off you since the samsung jet! and you were getting my attention again ..
i buy all my phones sim free - but paying £700 odd its just silly for a phone. its not like before where the phone cycles were long whereas now its like every 6months a killer phone arrives
Big Yes to Samsung S6 Edge!!!
I mean, just look at it, best Samsung design yet. So unique and beautiful. I would definitely get one!
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The Note series are different than the S series.
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Ya, but no. The Note series has always been an extension of the S series. Most of the features introduced in the S model are found in the Note series released right after. The note series just adds a bigger screen + S-Pen. In fact, the Note 4 was the first model that we could of said was much more of a deal breaker than the previous S, thats the 2K screen and metal bezel. Besides that, the Note has always been an S on steroids.
I think this is on purpose. As we all know, Samsung LOVES to introduce as some may call "gadget spam". They tend to have 4-5 (or even more) models of a same product. The good example is the smartwatch. Is it bad though? Well, if you're an early adopter, yes. But If you're patient enough, you'll find yourself with a more polished product. The Note series is a good way for samsung to test the market and constantly tweak their flagship phones.
The S5 still had a 1080p screen and all plastic. Then the Note 4 came, with a 2K display, OIS, metal bezel. Then the Note Edge came, with the same features but a curved display. Now that Samsung have seen their Note Edge has some traction and appreciation, they created a double curved display of the S6. All I can tell you is, (this will be confirmed when official number come in) most people that pre-ordered chose the S6 Edge over the S6. At least for my carrier, there are about 3x more people pre-ordering the edge than then non-edge model (according to reservation numbers submitted by forum users).
I think because the S6 was such an improvement over the previous S, the Note 5 will not have much space to improve. They will make it an all glass + metal design and have an edge and non-edge model with 5.7 to 5.8 2K display and maybe the biggest improvement will be a 20MP camera like the S6 was rumored to have. That or they will find a way to put a removable battery + SD. All speculation until late summer 2015
DayOne For me!
For me GALAXY s6 edge of course !!! But after so half - 1 year. Price 1000 EUR is incredible ! Higher money then 400 EUR - 500 EUR is rubbish
lopri said:
Can you honestly say that Samsung is giving less specs here, though? I do not defend Samsung for cutting sd card support in the S6, but people need to have some perspective. The Note series are different than the S series. I have no idea why you are comparing them as if they were exchangeable. And if you care so much for a fast CPU, I'd say good luck finding a phone faster than the S6 this year. (except for the Note 5, that is)
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How is Samsung giving us less specs here. I see upgrade display, internal storage, processor, RAM, etc., etc. We lost swappable battery but gained rapid charge where you can have 4 hours of talk time in what 10-15 minutes (can't do that on other phones) and the microSD was a dying on the vine, Google kicked it, and so are just about every other Android maker.
I always said that if Samsung dropped microSD I would drop Samsung, well they proved me wrong, I will be getting a GS6 Edge 128GB because I care more about internal storage and less about microSD cards which is why I opted for the iPhone 6 Plus 128GB but honestly its bulky and cumbersome. I much prefer a smaller 5-5.2" phone with the requisite 128GB built in.
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phone - no doubt
but seriously the prices are OTT -
in this day and age with all the competition thats out there.... sorry samsung but i havent bought a phone off you since the samsung jet! and you were getting my attention again ..
i buy all my phones sim free - but paying £700 odd its just silly for a phone. its not like before where the phone cycles were long whereas now its like every 6months a killer phone arrives
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Yet Apple can charge a premium for a substandard phone in in terms of RAM, Screen, Multi-Tasking, customization (without jailbreak), and still charg way high prices and people are suckers when they get a 16GB iPhone then ***** about it.
cdmoore74 said:
The S6 Edge is really calling my name right now. I wanted a smaller phone when I had the Note 3 but Gear VR suckered me in to a Note 4. I don't mind losing the SD card or battery because I plan on getting the 64GB model and morphie battery case for those days when I'm not near a charger. Anybody doing the same?
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Yes I will do the same.
Custom ROM flashing possible?
If S6 models do not have sd card slot then is it possible to flash Custom ROMs, Recoveries and Kernels ?
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If S6 models do not have sd card slot then is it possible to flash Custom ROMs, Recoveries and Kernels ?
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Yes.
Who cares how quickly a new phone arrives? You don't have to buy every phone they is released...
If you kept phones 2 years before, you can keep it 2 years now. That is your choice...
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If S6 models do not have sd card slot then is it possible to flash Custom ROMs, Recoveries and Kernels ?
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SD cards have nothing to do with flashing anything. You just store stuff on internal SD
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
ouroboros12 said:
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
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If ur thinking between note 7 and mi a3 then mi a3 is better overall, note 7 just has a sharper display but that's not u gonna notice its fine while the a3 display is amoled, mi a3 has better camera sensor sony on mi a3 and samsung on note 7 and a3 has a extra camera too. But not exactly a huge upgrade so stick with note 7
Simran62 said:
If ur thinking between note 7 and mi a3 then mi a3 is better overall, note 7 just has a sharper display but that's not u gonna notice its fine while the a3 display is amoled, mi a3 has better camera sensor sony on mi a3 and samsung on note 7 and a3 has a extra camera too. But not exactly a huge upgrade so stick with note 7
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Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
peterf81 said:
Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
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He's back! Bleeding eyeball man!
Go for Motorola One Vision instead : fullHD+ non PWM, NFC, camera optical stabilization, splash proof, ...
MI A3 has the worst display I ever saw in my life. Oversaturated, low-res, pentile, heavy PWM. Did buy it from eshop, so I did not know what I'm getting into.
ouroboros12 said:
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
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The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
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He's back! Bleeding eyeball man!
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I thought he was in a hospital or something lol but apparently he is still trolling around, with his bleeding eyes
Do not listen to those trolls. Trust me, the display is ___CATASTROPHIC___. It is the only phone which uses this particular display, and I think the last also. Don't make the same mistake as I did. MI A1 was great, A2 was also good, but A3 is disaster.
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Do not listen to those trolls. Trust me, the display is ___CATASTROPHIC___. It is the only phone which uses this particular display, and I think the last also. Don't make the same mistake as I did. MI A1 was great, A2 was also good, but A3 is disaster.
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Thanks for your input. I'll be checking the device out in one of the stores here. Im considering the mi 9 lite as well, but I'd like Android one more than miui
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The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
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I actually have the note 7 with PE10 installed. I'm quite used to stock Android. Hopefully future updates can fix those problems. What about the FOD?
peterf81 said:
Go for Motorola One Vision instead : fullHD+ non PWM, NFC, camera optical stabilization, splash proof, ...
MI A3 has the worst display I ever saw in my life. Oversaturated, low-res, pentile, heavy PWM. Did buy it from eshop, so I did not know what I'm getting into.
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We don't have Moto from where I'm at. I'll check some online shops. Thanks
_mysiak_ said:
The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
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I'm fine with stock Android. Been using it since JB. I want the miA3 for the Android one program. I'd like to get official 10. I'm currently using PE10 at the moment it rn7. Mi A3 is the best option for now atleast. Hopefully updates could fix some of those issues. Thanks for the input
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I actually have the note 7 with PE10 installed. I'm quite used to stock Android. Hopefully future updates can fix those problems. What about the FOD?
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- I don't have any issues with 2G/3G data.
- Though LED notifications are definitely not working for all apps (hopefully it will be fixed in future updates).
- FOD is not the fastest. I have an anecdotal issue with unlocking when my fingers are clean and dry (I more inclined to think it's due to dryness). One would expect issues with reading when sensor/fingers are dirty
- Display resolution and pixel density are not that bad as some ppl complain, but if it's a top requirement for you I would go in-store and have a look on it, played with brightness, read some text, etc before buying.
peterf81 said:
Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
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Its not that bad
ouroboros12 said:
I'm fine with stock Android. Been using it since JB. I want the miA3 for the Android one program. I'd like to get official 10. I'm currently using PE10 at the moment it rn7. Mi A3 is the best option for now atleast. Hopefully updates could fix some of those issues. Thanks for the input
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Do not buy the Mi A3, you will regret it everytime you use it. Most ppl will not admit that their new phone was a very bad buy - they are in denial (you can observe that in this thread).
Lol. The only thing most ppl can observe is that you cannot accept the loss of $160 on the wrong purchase.
I want Q and custom rom support. :fingers-crossed: Is the display really that bad?
Nope. But any review is subjective. If you're uncertain go in-store and take a look on it. Or take on risk, buy it and accept a potential loss of 156 USD (current price of 4/64 unit on Ali) on a device not meeting your expectations.
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Nope. But any review is subjective. If you're uncertain go in-store and take a look on it. Or take on risk, buy it and accept a potential loss of 156 USD (current price of 4/64 unit on Ali) on a device not meeting your expectations.
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I suppose. I'll be checking it out. Only thing that's stopping me from getting a mi 9 lite is the lack of support.
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153View attachment 5614611
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
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BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....