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I want to buy a Droid Razr but I'm on TMo. I've been on TMo for ten years and do not want to change.
Thing is, the Razr does not have 1700 MHz, so I will never get 3G on TMo. I understand there is a new thing called "voice over LTE". MetroPCS is supposed to have it, and they're about to merge with TMo.
Maybe this is a way I could get voice, data, and SMS with the Droid Razr on TMo or MetroPCS? If this would be possible, which Razr should I buy? Will the 4.3" screen be possible? This seems like the best balance of screen size to me. And I'll want to run MIUI.
Metro pcs and tmobile are doing a reverse merger were metropcs buys tmobile but tmobile will control the company but dutch telecom will control all of it since they own tmobile
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Actually it's TMobile that's doing the deal, and it's structured as a reverse merger.
And TMobile is owned by Deutsche (German) Telecom, not Dutch.
But this has nothing to do with my technical questions. Does anyone know my technical questions?
Quantumstate said:
Actually it's TMobile that's doing the deal, and it's structured as a reverse merger.
And TMobile is owned by Deutsche (German) Telecom, not Dutch.
But this has nothing to do with my technical questions. Does anyone know my technical questions?
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in 2015 the metro pcs network will be shut down. right their that answers your question. Go with tmobile. But legally metro is buying tmobile with tmobile money. you say ketchup i say catchup
Since no one here knows, I'll pass along what I've found out.
The Droid Razr (all versions, including M, Maxx, & HD) actually has two radios: CDMA and GSM. It's sold only for Verizon (CDMA), but with the ICS upgrade the GSM radio has been turned on. This makes it possible to use this phone worldwide, including in the US.
So this phone can be used with AT&T and TMobile. However it does not have 1700MHz so can not do 3G with TMo, only with AT&T. Newer models do have LTE at 700MHz (Verizon only).
TMo has recently lost 700,000 subscribers because it can not accommodate the iPhone, and so it is now scrambling to put together a system that can either get 3G on standard frequencies, or LTE. Verizon owns 700MHz, so I don't know how they are going to do this.
Engadget "When we reviewed the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, it was with the C6802, a HSPA+ model devoid of LTE bands. However, it seems that a speedy 4G version of the handset will arrive stateside soon, if this recent FCC listing is any indication. The document shows what is clearly the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, but with AT&T-compatible HSPA+ and LTE on board. This means it's likely the C6806, the handset's North American cousin, all set up to take advantage of Ma Bell's super-fast network. It doesn't look like there's too much else differentiating it from the international model however, so we'd take a gander at the review one more time to decide if it belongs on our wish list."
It would be very unfortunate with a branded Ultra since it would mean a crippled device with a crippled radio.
The C6806 standard edition offers both AT&T, T-Mobile and European bands (some slight differences there though, the 6806 has the 700 and the 6833 the 800 band).
So an unlocked C6806 is great but if Sony let a carrier fiddle with it, I guess that a couple of LTE bands will be removed (see what T-Mobile did with the Xperia Z C6606).
The best solution would be that Sony sells the Ultra unlocked through Sony Store - the C6806 that is. AT&T et al branding, bloatware and locked bootloader would destroy a magnificent device.
coming from a LTE ATT device to this, i can tell you, I DO NOT EVEN MISS LTE. for music,youtube,web,email,fb,cloud storage i do not see any difference
I was originally on the galaxy S3 with LTE, and switched over to a note 2 unlocked non LTE and sure, my speedtest scores aren't as high, and my downloads aren't as fast, but unless you're visiting some super graphic heavy site, it's not a huge diff. Plus LTE drains battery faster I believe. On a battery draining device such as the Ultra, you definitely won't want LTE constantly draining the battery. Especially if you're not on unlimited data.
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
Funk2641 said:
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
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You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
AntiLazarus said:
You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
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For what it's worth, Negri also had the Xperia Z NAM edition (6606) up for pre-order, and that is nowhere to be found except on T-Mobile.
I hope I'm wrong, but with Sony signing an agreement w/ TMo, I don't expect LTE devices to be sold unlocked by them in the US anytime soon.
The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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Sony sold the Xperia ZL LTE unlocked on their website, they might do the same for this phone as well, at least i hope that's going to be the case.
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I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
AntiLazarus said:
How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
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It's rumored that Tmo might pick it up, since they have a exclusivity deal with Sony. Just speculation.
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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cenkaetaya said:
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
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Correct - I have a Lumia 1020 and the Ultra Z C6802 on ATT. Here's some speedtests for you:
Ultra Z in HSPA (not even HSPA+) is getting 6Mb down, 2 Mb up
1020 in LTE gets 15Mb down, 11 Mb up
Despite the desparity, I don't notice that much difference in surfing. - not to mention the Z feels the fastest of any device used since the original Moto Xoom overclocked to 2GHz
Hope this helps!
I ran a SpeedTest yesterday and got a download of 8.3 Mbit/s on the AT&T network with HSPA+ and Straight Talk. A few minutes before, I ran another SpeedTest on the new Motorola Droid Razr Ultra and got... 3.5 Mbit/s - that's on Verizon 4G LTE.
So I am certainly very happy with the speeds I got on the Ultra in the center of Manhattan (the tests has been made near Grand Central).
randy_c said:
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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Great deal for sure. Anybody ever done any business with them? If not I'd probably be more comfortable buying from Negri.
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The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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Sony took the decision to use a top notch LTE radio in order to overcome the old limitations that plagued LTE devices until now. The only thing I don't like is the lack of VoLTE and it is one of the reasons why I went with the C6802 instead of following the original C6833 plan.
The only band missing on the C6833 is the 700 one, otherwise it should work nicely in the US meaning that it is a great option if it would end badly for the C6806 (i.e. carrier branding, removed bands and locked bootloader).
Anyone out there rocking the XZU model: C6806 on AT&T? If you are, does yours shows that your getting LTE? I have the C6833, cause I thought this got LTE, but all I seem to get is H+
So, if your getting LTE, please let me know. Thank you for your time.
Yep, I'm on ATT with a C6806 and getting LTE. Had to switch to the ATT APN when I flashed CM, but yes, definitely getting LTE. And the 6833 doesn't get LTE for ATT, doesn't have the right band IIRC.
Yep LTE works great on the C6806. Was in LA the other day getting 30+mb down and 20+ up.
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There are some locations in which the 6833 will get LTE but it's so not likely that it's not advertised as being compatible for AT&T. Even so, there were reports that some folks needed to have a recognized IMEI associated with their line of service to get LTE despite model and APN.
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Hi Phaze1585,
When I had my Z Ultra LTE (C6806), I was getting LTE on AT&T. However, there are two things you need in order for this to work:
1. Band 17 support which the C6833 does not have. However, AT&T may support band 4 (which the C6833 does support) sometime in the future but don't know when. If you look on Wikipedia and search LTE bands, it says AT&T supports bands 4 and 17 but AT&T currently implements band 17 predominately. There are reports on this forum that the C6833 should work on T-Mobile's LTE since they are using band 4.
2. The SIM card needs to be activated or associated with an AT&T LTE phone. If it is an LTE phone but not "approved" (basically sold) by AT&T, you will only get HSPA+. Not related to Z Ultra but in lines with the point, I purchased my dad a Xperia ZL and activated a new SIM with AT&T (previous phone was a Moto Atrix 2, HSPA+ only). When I booted the phone, it only connected with HSPA+. When I inserted my SIM which at the time was associated with a Galaxy Note 2, I was able to get LTE on the Xperia ZL. Similar stories can be seen by searching on Google.
Hope this helps.
My main concern is the lack of data frequencies for u.s. i will be using the phone for t-mobile. Anybody here that uses this phone for t-mobile how is data connection holding up for you?
wasn't that only about the LTE bands? 3G should work fine then I guess?
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My main concern is the lack of data frequencies for u.s. i will be using the phone for t-mobile. Anybody here that uses this phone for t-mobile how is data connection holding up for you?
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I'm in California and so far lte is fine for me, it's similar to the g3 when it comes to getting lte or not so far I get it everywhere
There's a thread on the oneplus forum that goes through this. Seems all major metro areas get LTE. Which, I'm fine with too. Mine is on order so cannot verify. We shall see.
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You will still get LTE speeds as long as you are in an area where bands 2 and 4 are available. My previous phone didn't have band 12, but I still have LTE coverage in my area, so I knew I would be okay with the OPX.
Band 12 is new. Most phones that came out last year didn't even have it. I think just the newest set of flagships did. I get LTE everywhere. I've only seen H+ maybe a hand full of times while on a phone call or in a building.
I get 100mbps in a lot of places. Even indoors.
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The iPhone 6, at $749.00 retail, does not include band 12.
I've been reading these reviews and the things that get mentioned is just beyond me. The camera does have me concerned though.
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I also have oneplus x with tmobile, and so far it seems like i get lte almost everywhere here in jacksonville fl. Also when i traveled across states over the christmas break. so you should be fine with getting lte coverage on tmoble.
I use the OnePlus X with Ting (T-Mobile)
Hi, I bought the OnePlus X without realizing that it wouldn't work on what was then my current network: Sprint. But I had already decided that I wanted to switch over to Ting. Ting uses other networks to power their service and charges you directly per use; it is very clear on exactly what you are paying for.
Anyway, it allowed me to connect my OnePlus X and set me up with the T-Mobile service (it shows up on the top-left notification bar on my phone).
I always get LTE coverage in Las Vegas, Nevada (USA) and I've never had a problem with the bands missing.
So yes, the OnePlus X works with T-Mobile. However, I have been trying to see how much they would charge me to switch over from Ting to T-Mobile and it seems that I can't? So for now, I'm sticking with Ting
I had a nexus 5 before (no band 12) and the oneplus X had the same bands avail actually it sounds like most unlocked phones don't have band 12 anyways but signal is actually better with my oneplus x over my old nexus 5 in a lot of places which makes me really happy!
So... I dropped my Nexus 6P and shattered it's screen. I figured I would buy something cheap to get by until I can afford to drop the $100+ on a new digitizer. I found a Moto E 2nd Generation on CL for $25. Didn't seem bad, so I picked it up.
Brought it home and popped in my sim. I use T-Mobile's $30 Walmart plan. It registered, but only on EDGE. Looked online and found out that I have an XT1524, which is I guess an EU model? The person I bought the device from said that they used it with Walmart's family plan.
So, basically, my question is, are the bands hardware or software? Can I flash a different modem (more than willing to root/unlock the bootloader/flash a custom ROM (if that's even possible with this device))? Or am I stuck with EDGE/try to trade for a US compatible device?
Alternatively, are there any US LTE networks that this device supports? Since I'm prepaid, I can jump ship until I get my 6P fixed.
XT1524 has quadband EDGE, but only dualband HSPA (B1 & B8), and only LTE Bands 1, 3, 7, 20. No US carriers use those HSPA and LTE bands, so you're stuck on EDGE.