I've been using Greenify for years and love the app. Since Marshmallow, Android has included a kill app(s) option from the recent apps button menu. With this option, is Greenfiy necessary anymore? The one benefit to using Greenify I can think of is that it does the hibernation automatically after you lock the screen vs manually having to do it with the Android kill option but are there other benefits to using Greenfiy over the Android built-in option?
shobuddy said:
I've been using Greenify for years and love the app. Since Marshmallow, Android has included a kill app(s) option from the recent apps button menu. With this option, is Greenfiy necessary anymore? The one benefit to using Greenify I can think of is that it does the hibernation automatically after you lock the screen vs manually having to do it with the Android kill option but are there other benefits to using Greenfiy over the Android built-in option?
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Killing and hibernation are two different things. Ability to terminate individual apps from the recents menu has been around since at least KitKat. Greenify still has value in Marshmallow depending on configuration and expectations.
Davey126 said:
Killing and hibernation are two different things.
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On Marshmallow, you have the option to do both hibernate and kill w/in the OS.
shobuddy said:
On Marshmallow, you have the option to do both hibernate and kill w/in the OS.
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Yep - you said "kill". As for needing Greenify original response remains accurate. If you are satisfied Marshmallow's limited implementation of doze/hibernate and battery endurance is satisfactory there is no reason to retain Greenify. If you want more control Greenify is probably best-in-breed when it comes to hibernation emulation/helper apps.
Is there a way to add Android's "Doze" shortcut to the home screen?
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Greenify is the most useful app yet made for Android but still so much can be done to make it better so I thought to make a thread to make Greenify better and I hope @oasisfeng would look at it.
Post your feature requests and suggestions here in this thread.
My suggestions: I think there should be an option, like a timer, after which greenify automatically greenifies apps even when the screen is on so that if I use a lot of apps continuously and then without turning the screen off once I start to watch a movie or play a game or anything on a phone, greenify should hibernate the background triggered apps automatically and save battery and provide better overall performance.
I know Tasker can do that but personally I don't like using Tasker because of its complex UI so I've set a shortcut on my phone when I double tap the menu button it triggers the hibernate now shortcut of greenify. But it would be of much help if greenify does it itself, having a timer of something between 1min-1hour to greenify apps automatically.
Also I would like the ram usage of greenify to be less, as sometimes it starts using as much as 60-70mb of ram, which is quite much. I hope you can find a way to reduce the ram usage.
If developer read this, i would like to have an option to disable startup apps.
If you have too much apps that starts in same time when you turn on your phone, you will have a slow boot..
I think that this is option that should exist in such great app..
And yes, some timer should exist also...
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Hi sir. & tnx for the amazing greenfy.
As i talked with you I have some suggestions for greenfy & i want everyone to share more suggestions:
1) Add an option to put some apps in a group. Then put them in hibernation or degreenfy them with one click or widget.
Let me explain: for example i use some sound mods that keep special apps in memory. But when i dont listen to music i dont need them. So i want them to be in hibernation. But when i want to listen to music, i need to degreenfy them with one click
2) Add an option to deactivate & freeze some apps temporarily & easily in the greenfy app.
For example i dont want the google play services be in the memory all the time. I just need it when i want to use a google app. So i freeze it in the greenfy. & when i need it i defrost & activate it.
3)Add an option to force greenfy some apps instead of cut off the services one by one. Or an option to choose the services that we dont need them. & deactivate them.
4) Add an option to degreenfy some apps by a period of time & put it back in hibernation after that automatically.
For example: i use a calander app. That if i put it in hibernation the date that it shows freezes & sticks on a certain day. But if there be an option to degreenfy it daily for an hour automatically & put it back, it was great.
5) Add an option to change the cpu governer from ondemand(or balance) to power save automatically when the screen turns off. & when it turns on or we receive a call or notificstion it goes back to ondemand( or balance)
6)Add an option to not put in hibernation for some apps when they are downloading or uploading. ( i think it's not possible to determine this ) but just a suggesttion)
7) Add an gaming mode. That greenfy put all of the apps in hibernation instead of call,message, or apps that we mention.
kassaaam said:
Greenify is the most useful app yet made for Android but still so much can be done to make it better so I thought to make a thread to make Greenify better and I hope @oasisfeng would look at it.
Post your feature requests and suggestions here in this thread.
My suggestions: I think there should be an option, like a timer, after which greenify automatically greenifies apps even when the screen is on so that if I use a lot of apps continuously and then without turning the screen off once I start to watch a movie or play a game or anything on a phone, greenify should hibernate the background triggered apps automatically and save battery and provide better overall performance.
I know Tasker can do that but personally I don't like using Tasker because of its complex UI so I've set a shortcut on my phone when I double tap the menu button it triggers the hibernate now shortcut of greenify. But it would be of much help if greenify does it itself, having a timer of something between 1min-1hour to greenify apps automatically.
Also I would like the ram usage of greenify to be less, as sometimes it starts using as much as 60-70mb of ram, which is quite much. I hope you can find a way to reduce the ram usage.
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Alright im not oasisfeng but i can certainly answer some questions as to why this might be possible atm
First, the so-called hibernation whem screen on will only drain your battery futher and will cut-off android system's background process for apps. To put it shortly, it'll cut-off the functions of apps that needs another app for its services.. Some instances includes xposed for whatsapp and the whatsapp itself and others alike. This will have an excessive power drain due to two reasons:
1.) Greenify will constantly monitor background time when screen on hence battery drain
2.) Hibernating apps while screen is on will only re-trigger it, as an example is facebook/messenger.. As hibernating them screen on would only awaken it again after a few seconds which results in more wakelocks and more unneccesarry battery drain
And for the ram usage i have never encountered such, the biggest i have is 11 mb so im quite puzzled.. What services are running in your greenify? I personally disable campaign tracking and analytics services to minimize ram usage
mire777 said:
If developer read this, i would like to have an option to disable startup apps.
If you have too much apps that starts in same time when you turn on your phone, you will have a slow boot..
I think that this is option that should exist in such great app..
And yes, some timer should exist also...
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Disabling startup apps is the job of other 3rd party apps such as appopsxposed and bootmanager.. Greenify hibernates but not limits. You can never have too much butter on one bread sir
I have recently bought the donation pack for greenify and I have several questions. First of all, I want to say that the app is really fulfilling all my expectations but as someone worried about my battery performance I still have some question, but first I'll say the conditions of my smartphone:
Samsung galaxy s5 with lollipop using greenify 2.5.2 donation pack (non rooted)
Questions:
1) I cannot see apps like chrome to be greenified and I want to have them like that as I see chrome takes up to several hours of internet connection even if I have just used it for some minutes. I wonder this is possible because I suppose this can be made as in other apps like battery killers, chrome can be killed, but I just haven't seen how.
2) Everytime I open greenify there are many "pending" apps that are not hibernated, even if I click in "zzz" button or in the button that says "hibernate and turn off the screen". The only way to deal with these pending apps is to select all of them and click on "zzz". I guess there should be a way to have them automatically hibernated.
3) There is an option in the menu that talks about an automatic manner to do this but I don't see how to activate it. I have it marked the greenify options for locking the screen but there are even more things to set that I don't see where and how. Maybe you can guide me in this better. In case I have this option chosen, pending apps will be automatically closed after some minutes, as it is said? if so, how many minutes?
Thanks in advance!
paco_ramirez said:
Questions:
1) I cannot see apps like chrome to be greenified and I want to have them like that as I see chrome takes up to several hours of internet connection even if I have just used it for some minutes. I wonder this is possible because I suppose this can be made as in other apps like battery killers, chrome can be killed, but I just haven't seen how.
2) Everytime I open greenify there are many "pending" apps that are not hibernated, even if I click in "zzz" button or in the button that says "hibernate and turn off the screen". The only way to deal with these pending apps is to select all of them and click on "zzz". I guess there should be a way to have them automatically hibernated.
3) There is an option in the menu that talks about an automatic manner to do this but I don't see how to activate it. I have it marked the greenify options for locking the screen but there are even more things to set that I don't see where and how. Maybe you can guide me in this better. In case I have this option chosen, pending apps will be automatically closed after some minutes, as it is said? if so, how many minutes?
Thanks in advance!
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Have you set Greenify to "on" in SETTINGS>Accessibility?
If you want to manually hibernate, create the shortcut from within Greenify (use the three button icon on the top right). When you use the shortcut, the chosen apps will be hibernated and the screen will be locked afterwards.
In Autohibernate, the time taken for hibernation varies but all apps should be hibernated within 10 minutes max.
For hibernating system apps like Chrome, I think you need root permission.
Yes, the accesibility for Greenify is set to activated. However this options is never enabled within the "experimental settings" menu. It's always set to off. So I have never seen my phone awaking ten minutes after to turn off all pending apps. They remain opened. Any hint?.
Best regards!
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Yes, the accesibility for Greenify is set to activated. However this options is never enabled within the "experimental settings" menu. It's always set to off. So I have never seen my phone awaking ten minutes after to turn off all pending apps. They remain opened. Any hint?.
Best regards!
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When you click the "always off" Automatic Hibernation option in Experimental Features, what happened? It is supposed to be a accessibility setting dialog for you to enable the accessibility service from Greenify for the first time, then Device Admin dialog to enable the other service for the second time, and being checked at last for the third time.
Here I post the sequence I do in screenshots. Evrytime I click in that button it appears the same dialog. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong...but i dont get it working and I have to hibernate manually pending apps
Thanks for helping! ?
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Here I post the sequence I do in screenshots. Evrytime I click in that button it appears the same dialog. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong...but i dont get it working and I have to hibernate manually pending apps
Thanks for helping! ?
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Have you enabled 'secure key guard'?
If so, disable it and then check.
tnsmani said:
Have you enabled 'secure key guard'?
If so, disable it and then check.
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Yes! it was that!. I supposed it was enough by allowing greenify in the security menu. Thanks!
However, I wanted to have it working because I thought it was the only way to have pending apps hibernated because with the button "hibernate and lock" was not hibernating pending apps. After rebooting the phone (thing that I do seldom) it works as I expected. I guess this was the cause why greenify wasn't worked as I expected. Then, for me it is ok if I have that button since it does what I expected to.
Thanks to all!
I'm using Greenify on 4.4. Some apps like Viber or keyboard are not hibernating automatically. We can force them to, with this zzz button in which case they hibernate all the time.
I find it would be the most useful not to use zzz but to have another "Force hibernation shortcut" that would instantly hibernate all listed apps, still allowing those existing 2 shortcuts which don't hibernate all.
I hope this concept is not wrong and that it can be done. If it is, please advise how to use it.
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I'm using Greenify on 4.4. Some apps like Viber or keyboard are not hibernating automatically. We can force them to, with this zzz button in which case they hibernate all the time.
I find it would be the most useful not to use zzz but to have another "Force hibernation shortcut" that would instantly hibernate all listed apps, still allowing those existing 2 shortcuts which don't hibernate all.
I hope this concept is not wrong and that it can be done. If it is, please advise how to use it.
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Thats an very interesting concept,and totally possible,this used to be present on older versions of greenify but it was removed because it closed apps when they were doing something important. also,Why are you hibernating your keyboard?
danx32 said:
Why are you hibernating your keyboard?
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I'm hibernating keyboard just because it consumes power. That's so with SwiftKey and TouchPal which are great with swype/slide functions.
Built-in keyboard in 4.4 doesn't but I don't use it. Huawei phone has this power consumption warning and those 2 are regularly on the list.
TimAnd said:
I'm hibernating keyboard just because it consumes power. That's so with SwiftKey and TouchPal which are great with swype/slide functions.
Built-in keyboard in 4.4 doesn't but I don't use it. Huawei phone has this power consumption warning and those 2 are regularly on the list.
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Swiftkey never been battery friendly,Unfortunately Currently The only solution is to use that ZZZ button until the developer fixes that,But that's gonna take awhile since he is currently focusing on Android N support.
I feel like this should be do-able in MacroDroid using a widget button and the Send Intent action... I have never tried using that particular action though, and seems I need to get a dump of the intents and look for the right one hehe, sounds like a sober job
Some info on Intent for Tasker.. not familiar with that app but assume is similar to MacroDroid...
With all the new doze features these phone have in 8.1 is greenify necessary? I currently am using it but wonder if it could actually be slowing my phone down. I have s pixel 2 xl on Android 8.1.
Schroeder09 said:
With all the new doze features these phone have in 8.1 is greenify necessary? I currently am using it but wonder if it could actually be slowing my phone down. I have s pixel 2 xl on Android 8.1.
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Definitely not required on Android 7+ but can be useful to identify and contain bad actors. That said, utility is limited w/o Xposed. I would disable and observe.
Side note: adding tons of apps to Greenify without due cause is bad practice and can lead to undesirable behaviors and/or increased power consumption. Stick to those that exhibit poor behavior -and- can not be contained with native doze.
Davey126 said:
Definitely not required on Android 7+ but can be useful to identify and contain bad actors. That said, utility is limited w/o Xposed. I would disable and observe.
Side note: adding tons of apps to Greenify without due cause is bad practice and can lead to undesirable behaviors and/or increased power consumption. Stick to those that exhibit poor behavior -and- can not be contained with native doze.
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To disable greenify without uninstalling should I just disable its super user rights?
Schroeder09 said:
To disable greenify without uninstalling should I just disable its super user rights?
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Disable in the normal manner in apps panel (under Android settings). If 'disable' is not available in your ROM (and you don't have an app to handle this) simply uninstall.
Davey126 said:
Disable in the normal manner in apps panel (under Android settings). If 'disable' is not available in your ROM (and you don't have an app to handle this) simply uninstall.
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Ok so you're saying just disable with force stop?
Schroeder09 said:
Ok so you're saying just disable with force stop?
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No - disable with disable button. If your ROM does not offer that option then uninstall. Force stop is a temporary action.
I'm on a galaxy s7 oreo in no root mode. As soon as I check the automatic hibernation option it uncheckes itself. I really want to setup greenify to auto hibernate my selected apps as soon as they start.
JTCGiants56 said:
I'm on a galaxy s7 oreo in no root mode. As soon as I check the automatic hibernation option it uncheckes itself. I really want to setup greenify to auto hibernate my selected apps as soon as they start.
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The option you cite will not accomplish that goal. Automatic hibernation activates shortly after screen-off...not when the app becomes active.
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The option you cite will not accomplish that goal. Automatic hibernation activates shortly after screen-off...not when the app becomes active.
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Gotcha, is there an option to either stop immediately, or even prevent an app from starting all together? If not, I would at least like to get the option that is not working working so it will at least activate on screen lock. Thanks.
JTCGiants56 said:
Gotcha, is there an option to either stop immediately, or even prevent an app from starting all together? If not, I would at least like to get the option that is not working working so it will at least activate on screen lock. Thanks.
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I don't know why automatic hibernation is not staying checked on your device. There is probably a logical explanation; I just don't know it off-the-cuff.
Greenified apps generally remain hibernated unless 'activated' by an event or another app. It either case Greenify will note the trigger and give you the option to 'cut' it off.
You can enable 'wake up tracking' and 'quick action notification' in settings for additional flexibility/control. Greenify also includes a couple widgets and other controls (eg: long press action on nav bar) for manually invoking hibernation.