I have the Verizon Moto Z (Droid Edition) and am thinking I'll try my luck at getting the unlock code. Does simply getting the unlock code (from a CSR) automatically void the warranty, or do I actually have to unlock my bootloader to void it? If the latter and I need to send my phone in for service under (original) warranty - and I relock the bootloader - is there anything like Samsung's KNOX that will tell Motorola I've my bootloader was unlocked?
Clearly I'd rather do it unofficially, but I don't hold out much hope that a method will ever be developed for the VZW phones.
rczrider said:
I have the Verizon Moto Z (Droid Edition) and am thinking I'll try my luck at getting the unlock code. Does simply getting the unlock code (from a CSR) automatically void the warranty, or do I actually have to unlock my bootloader to void it? If the latter and I need to send my phone in for service under (original) warranty - and I relock the bootloader - is there anything like Samsung's KNOX that will tell Motorola I've my bootloader was unlocked?
Clearly I'd rather do it unofficially, but I don't hold out much hope that a method will ever be developed for the VZW phones.
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Yes they keep a record of all unlock codes sent out. Your warranty is void as soon as you receive the code
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Phone: Live with walkman
For a while i have wanted to unlock my bootloader but i cant.
I have found a thread where you can unlock your phone using the test point method.
Using this tutorial - HERE
I have some questions
Can i use this method if unlocking the bootloader is not allowed?
Is there such thing as bricking? If i do it wrong will it brick my phone?
Will it effect my INSURANCE (not warranty)?
I have no experience over unlocking via test point method, so I am unable to help with it.
There is no such thing as bricking, although you can get your phone bricked, if you try to update your phone firmware over the air(3G or WiFi), while having unlocked bootloader.
But don't worry about that, chance to make it completely bricked is quite low, if you know, what you are doing.
About the insurance, check your contract details, can't help with that.
Jhawsh said:
Phone: Live with walkman
For a while i have wanted to unlock my bootloader but i cant.
I have found a thread where you can unlock your phone using the test point method.
Using this tutorial - HERE
I have some questions
Can i use this method if unlocking the bootloader is not allowed?
Is there such thing as bricking? If i do it wrong will it brick my phone?
Will it effect my INSURANCE (not warranty)?
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About the bootloader:
The s1tool method might work even if the phone is branded but if you want to unlock the boot loader to flash custom kernels and roms you will need to enter to fast boot mode which is disabled in all the branded phones that I know of, you can try to enter the phone in fastboot mode turning it of and connecting the USB cable to the PC and the phone holding down the volume up key, if the notification led turn on blue then you can flash custom kernels and rooms once the bootloader is unlocked if not then you will need to pay to unlock it if that is what you want.
About the brick and the insurance the answer was given in the previous post.
Cheers!!
If i get unlocked will it also allow me to unlock the bootloader?
After some searching.
If your phone has SIM-lock(locked to a specific network), you cannot unlock the bootloader. The only way currently is to pay some money and it will remove SIM-lock and unlock bootloader also.
Can't remember the provider exactly.
Someone told me he got his sim slot fixed by Motorola after the sim slot was damaged using SIM adapter.
I have the same problem, and I started an RMA with Motorola, but I am concerned they will reject the service once they see boot loader is unlocked.
Should I attempt to re-lock the bootloader (I understand this may cause issues) or just take my chances and send it in?
Doesn't Motorola provide us with the token to unlock the bootloader?
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afaik unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty (except in Europe)
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afaik unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty (except in Europe)
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it's not true. When you unlock bootloader you have to confirm like 10 times that you know that this voids warranty so it doesn't matter where you live.
But... many small services doesn't check bootloader status because for them more repairs is more money. In my case with Sony phone I had ulocked bootloader and I've broken it trying to repartition device and still they changed my motherboard for free. So imo it's worth to try.
Just came back to confirm that Motorola sent me the phone back un-repaired with a note that they do not repair devices with unlocked bootloaders.
Good Morning guys,
I plan to unlock my bootloader in the next few days. But I don't want to type in my real imei number, because if I have to send the phone in they might check and regret warranty.
So: Is ist possible to type in bull**** in the form or is the unlock code generated via the imei and I risk hard bricking the phone? And is there a counter which says that it was once unlocked if it is locked atm?
Thanks In advance
No this will not work!
The unlock Code will be generated specially for your IMEI, so a Unlock Code for a bull**** IMEI will not work.
Also I know (mostly from other manufacturers) that the "void warranty" is mostly because the manufacturer does not want to repair phones which are bricked for free.
If you have a hardware-defect, the manufacturer will repair your phone. The only situation I know where a manufacturer did not repair a phone, was because the phone was overheated and defective, because someone overvolted the phone via modified kernel.
So ... normally it will not "really" void your warranty.
simply relock your bootloader and flash a stock rom before sending it in
Some people say that relocking bootloader can be recognised by LG service:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67392251
What is your experience with repairing phone after relocking bootloader? Your answers can help to people to take a decision about unlocking bootloader. Thanks.
I'm also interested in the subject.
It depends on what is broken due to your fault or not. See http://www.howtogeek.com/240417/does-rooting-or-unlocking-void-your-android-phones-warranty/
TLDR: If you break your phone du to overclocking, which was achieved with unlocking your device && rooting it, you're out of luck. If you get random reboots, which is a software thing it could get tricky and the warrenty may not be there for you then.
But for everything else hardware related it's not the roms fault. The company will fix it anyway. I sent devices in from HTC, LG and Samsung which were all rooted and unlocked. No problems so far. I live in Germany, just sayin
saschb2b said:
It depends on what is broken due to your fault or not. See http://www.howtogeek.com/240417/does-rooting-or-unlocking-void-your-android-phones-warranty/
TLDR: If you break your phone du to overclocking, which was achieved with unlocking your device && rooting it, you're out of luck. If you get random reboots, which is a software thing it could get tricky and the warrenty may not be there for you then.
But for everything else hardware related it's not the roms fault. The company will fix it anyway. I sent devices in from HTC, LG and Samsung which were all rooted and unlocked. No problems so far. I live in Germany, just sayin
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When i went with my previous phone (samsung S5+) in a Samsung Repairs they told me warranty is not void as long as phone is not rooted or bootloader unlocked (knox 0x1). Now if the motherboard is faulty and is to be replaced then they won't find out about root and knox fuse but if they replace other components and boot the phone and find the knox fuse 0x1... warranty is void. That is my understanding.
In the case of LG G5 one has to unlock the bootloader via LG de site and then that device will show up in their "unlocked devices" list with some sort of identification (of the device and user). If one sends his/her G5 to service it would be interesting to find out if LG actualy checks to see if that device has been unlocked or not.
I live in Romania and in my experience when warranty is involved the people at the repair centers do search if phone are rooted and bootloader unlocked and cancel warranty.
Getting unlock.bin doesn't mean that you used it.
vader20 said:
When i went with my previous phone (samsung S5+) in a Samsung Repairs they told me warranty is not void as long as phone is not rooted or bootloader unlocked (knox 0x1). Now if the motherboard is faulty and is to be replaced then they won't find out about root and knox fuse but if they replace other components and boot the phone and find the knox fuse 0x1... warranty is void. That is my understanding.
In the case of LG G5 one has to unlock the bootloader via LG de site and then that device will show up in their "unlocked devices" list with some sort of identification (of the device and user). If one sends his/her G5 to service it would be interesting to find out if LG actualy checks to see if that device has been unlocked or not.
I live in Romania and in my experience when warranty is involved the people at the repair centers do search if phone are rooted and bootloader unlocked and cancel warranty.
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Knox is a samsung thing just to be clear http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
Hey guys, my bootloader unlock allowed status is no, but what if i unlock my SIM? Will it change to Unlock Allowed: Yes? I really wanna unlock the bootloader.
SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
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SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
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Understood, thanks!