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After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
im interested in this as well
Hi,
I´m an Omnia 2 I8000 owner since 10.2009. It was the first phone on market with Samsungs Amoled-screen.
I allways use Black themes.
I don´t have any problems with screen burn up to now. You can see it slightly on testimages, but in normal use, you won´t notice it at all! I would post pictures, but my Display was replaced(Dust under the screen) a month ago, so its new again...
Rgds
Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
hycian said:
Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens?
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Amoled screens are basically plasma screens for phones.
They're completely different technologies, but the pros/cons are almost the same.
lcds make a picture but the backlight is what allows us to see it so clearly.
amoled make their own light, but they have a lifespan.
so the pixels that get the most use tend to fade, and leave a 'burn in' effect.
Berserk87 said:
After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
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Burn in happens as early as 4-6 months of use with most AMOLED based screens, this happens mostly on the clock section of the notification bar, there is a long thread about this on the SGS1 forums. Honestly burn in is the least of concerns, be more concerned about the yellow tinting issue on most SAMOLED Plus screens.
Well ive had a samsung jet for some 3-4 years, one of the first amoleds (i think)
and i dont have a hint of burn in, i also got a htc desire after that because i fell in love with amoled and that doesnt have any burn in either. Now i have my sgs2 and the amoled love continues. I have a plasma screen at home so i am very familliar with burn in (nasty shock in the morning when falling asleep with it on!).
I think if samsung thought these were going to burn in they would have put screen protection/pixel flushing just like they did with my samsung plasma tv. Its really not a worry in my mind and i use bright blue glowing themes which are the most aggressive on amoled pixels.
Ive read horror stories of burn in but those are just faulty screens/handsets.
Heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498&page=16&highlight=amoled+burnin
what im still unable to find is how easy it would be to replace the screen if it were to burn in, and what it would cost.
never knew these AMOLED screens have image retention problems.
My Nexus One had terrible screen burn, the Froyo notification bar was clearly visable when not actually displayed. Hope the SGS2 does not go this way.
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Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
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Yes there is a problem. My nexus one has permanent burn in. And I made a thread with many others posting pics of their burn in.
Its just a trait of amoled screens. My status bar, clock am pm, and keyboard are all burnt in to the screen on my nexus one.
Search the forum, this topic has already been covered.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes that is the question now, we don't know how much amoled plus improves this issue. I have to think that its gonna be much improved with this new generation.
Mine already seems to suffer from burn-in, most noticeable whenever my auto-brightness shifts to lower thresholds (had my SGS2 since the last day of June 2011). I wonder if Sammy can do any replacement for me.
I got a burn in too. The four bottom icons start to be visible with notification bar pulled down.
Looks like I ain't the only one with an sgs2 with this issue then. I notice it's only visible at low brightness - approximately 10-15%. And my notification bar has always been black.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Similar to my usage pattern mate. Pathetic is the word. Damn.
So i have a bright (white) pixel on the screen...
It's really visible on BLACK and little visible on BLUE background ( not visible on Red or Green background)
the pixel's visibility does change when i change the screen brightness
so is this a dead or stuck pixel.... how fixable is it?
Sounds like a dead pixel.
Cant be fixed. If there is only one then they wont replace it. You're stuck with it(no pun intended).
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Sounds like a dead pixel.
Cant be fixed. If there is only one then they wont replace it. You're stuck with it(no pun intended).
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damn what stupid issue to have
dead pixels :crying:
really annoying and pretty rare these days.
I have a dead pixel as well. Its on the top status bar. I can only see it on black.... Guess what colour the status bar is... Yes its black! Lol so I can see it all the time
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I've got one as well but is only really visible above 50% brightness on a dark background. Unfortunately the pixel died about a week after I got my S but I've managed to ignore it most of the time. Having such a high pixel density helps a lot.
Why So Serious? said:
I've got one as well but is only really visible above 50% brightness on a dark background. Unfortunately the pixel died about a week after I got my S but I've managed to ignore it most of the time. Having such a high pixel density helps a lot.
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so means just live with it then? eeww
Please don't post Q&A in the general section.
If any thing you have to say can end in ?????
Then it belongs in the Q&A section.
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yeah i have one too, visible on white screens but also on most of the other colors.
They said that they fix such things only from the 4th pixel
Too bad, I have been through 4 Xperia S phones. Two from yellow tint, one bad battery and my latest which has no issues. None of them have had a dead pixel, so I am surprised to see so many.
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I have a dead pixel as well. Its on the top status bar. I can only see it on black.... Guess what colour the status bar is... Yes its black! Lol so I can see it all the time
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Is exactly the same to me, in the top of status bar (touch firmware 6, ABAE and 12w16). I hope to be the first and last ...
On my Xperia U I have one green stuck pixel. It amazes me the Sony quality control check. This is my third SXU. First one 4-5 stuck pixels, second one totaly dead and then this one with stuck pixel again. Sony service center and retailer didn't want to acknowledge the complaint. They told me that one or two defective pixels is acceptable.
as far as all my reading goes, the dead/stuck pixels are always claimed by manufacturers that these are "within specifications" whenever there's 7 or less on screens (TV, monitor)and 4 or less on mobiles (as their screens are small).
on my experience on TV though, you can forget about dead/stuck pixels if there's 7 or less. the most important thing to test is the backlight bleeding, check leakage of light on a black screen (that is screen is on displaying a black image). that is more important than few pixels which you will just neglect in time. the backlight bleeds, this you can never forgive.
now for mobiles, its very rare they would have backlight bleeds. so there, we can focus on the pixels. i think this would be more noticeable on large screen phones (4 inch up) or low pixels per inch density. from hereon, its best to test the phone before paying for it, display a black image for backlight bleed check, then colored and white screens to check on dead/stuck pixel. don't ever pay until you're satisfied. its very hard to return/refund/argue when you paid already and noticed the bad thing. unless it happens after you leave the store. so again, its best to thoroughly check it before paying, and of course fully warrantied.
Hey some days ago i downloaded an app called Dock Clock. You can check out the app here . In short, what does that app do is displaying a full screen clock and preventing the screen from going off while docked.
it looks like this...
I've also enabled a setting used to avoid possible burn in which moves the clock around the screen in small "steps" every few seconds, but i am not still quite sure if its safe in the long run to use it as a desk clock 4-5 hours a day while charging...
I am not quite informed with the burn in effect so i need your help here.. What do you believe? Will it cause burn-in problems in the long run or its me just being hyperbolic?
Τhanks in advance and sorry for any english mistakes on the post
That app hasn't caused any effects on my S1 afters months of usage. It was in horizontal position so the app couldn't really move the digits but still no issue.
And I do tend to sleep a little longer than only 5 hours
thanks for your helpfull response :good:
You should be more worried about the notification bar because the icons never move and often abuse burn in.
I have yet to see any significant burn-in on the notification bar either across all AMOLED phones I've seen to date.
It's very faint but for most people even hard to spot on an unfirm singlecolored background.
What most people mistakingly report as burn-in is what's called "lazy pixel" where, due to it not being used very often, it's slower and another luminosity than the rest of the screen. Letting the phone cycle a Dead Pixel fixer app for 30-60 minutes whenever it's noticeable will usually get rid of the problem.
I'm not saying burn-in does not exist but usually either the screen has issues or it's been very,very,very abused to be disturbing.
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I have yet to see any significant burn-in on the notification bar either across all AMOLED phones I've seen to date.
It's very faint but for most people even hard to spot on an unfirm singlecolored background.
What most people mistakingly report as burn-in is what's called "lazy pixel" where, due to it not being used very often, it's slower and another luminosity than the rest of the screen. Letting the phone cycle a Dead Pixel fixer app for 30-60 minutes whenever it's noticeable will usually get rid of the problem.
I'm not saying burn-in does not exist but usually either the screen has issues or it's been very,very,very abused to be disturbing.
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I see... i'll take the chance and ask you something else... 2 weeks ago i realised that on the midle of the right side of my screen there is a small area that appears green on pure white background... you can also notice it on blue-rgb and on red-rgb... the color of that area is nearly the same as green-rgb... its shape is curved like a nail and its like 2mm or 3mm long... any ideas? i read that dead pixels (although the area is by no means a single pixel) appear black on white background and everything else its not dead... can it be fixed or at least do you know how is this "symptom" called?
It's not really a dead pixel in the terms of the pixel not giving any luminescence, thats true.
However several people already reported that their phone had pixels which were incorrectly controlled (e.g. some blue pixels lighting up on red, ...)
which is usually due to a manufacturing fault which shortens the power-pin of several sub-pixels.
With such hgh pixel densities as the S3's screen has, that is to be expected but quality control should get rid of them.
I'd recommend taking a long-exposure photo if available, enhance it, print it out and go back to the seller. The photo should be sufficient in case they are unable to see it for themselves in a store-environment.
You should however first try a Dead Pixel app even if I don't believe it will fix the issue.
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
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So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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Look, the picture you took in sunlight is normal behavior and physics.
The low light low brightness pictures are indeed not normal, indeed should be exchanged for another device!
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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also, on the first photo I can see black bar near punch hole
exactly the same as on mine.. will probably send it back
Just got new phone July batch , first impressions are a lot less green tint ..... thank god June panel was a joke July panel I think its still there just a lot less this time ... will see later this evening and post picture back.
black bar across top i can see but not to bothered about this in all honesty.
Colours have to admit whites are cleaner as a result but rest look to be calibrated identical to last panel.
I think my first panel dated May was the best colours just seemed to wow instantly , everyone who saw phone commented on display in a positive manner.
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Here, this is how mine looks like at min brightness: green tint and horizontal bar
Sending it back
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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tobias14 said:
not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
tonnytech said:
well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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Hold onto oppo await OnePlus if it's green then decide on which phone to keep or return both ... Less swaps
Good luck ?
How do you see your QC date?
belloni said:
How do you see your QC date?
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It is on the box
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It is on the box
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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I cancelled OP8 order that day as I thought that I can live with Oppo's screen. But I can't, so I sent it back today.
Ordered OP8 pro again, it is arriving tomorrow. Will update once received, fingers crossed.
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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so, got my 2nd OP8 pro y'day and the black bar is there and green tint at low brightness as well. QC date is May 28th, the same was for my first OP8 pro
this is my 3rd device with same panel and same issues (2x OP8 pro, 1x Find X2 pro)
Hey guys,
I havent seen a thread related to display issues. In 2 german Forums I found threads about various issues. From Color fade, to overall greenish tint or flickering screens.
Sadly I am very picky with display stuff and my Display isnt perfect either. I mostly use relatively low brigthness settings (around 30-40%) and on dark mode especially the settings menu has a color fade from dark grey to dark blue. This cant be seen on any other color.
Its easy to see in a dark room, the brighter the room the lesser you will notice.
To easier check: use telegram, with its blueish theme its definitely way stronger fading there...
For a phone thats 649€ in germany thats unacceptable for me. My P5 has a slight warmish but perfectly even colored display and thats what I expect from a P6.
What about you? Can anyone check their display if thats a common issue?
Hi,
i have the same issue, also a device from germany.
Even when booting when everything is white, I always have multiple changes between white and blue in the display.
I'm at work, I try to take a picture when I get home.
Please do, Id really be intersted. Sadly we cant do anything about it...
Anybody have the green ish tint on a black screen issue? Seen a few of those floating around as well...
Similar issues with my screen, also from Germany.
My first OLED screen had been with the Galaxy Note 1 and I hated it for its issues. Always bought devices with LCD screens afterwards.
The Pixel 6 is my first OLED phone since and it is having pretty much the same issues my Note had 10 years ago
Great phone so far (Android is still a bit buggy), but the display is quite a disappointment for me personally, at least for brightness levels below ~50%...
Is it just me or are most of these issues regarding the display coming from Germany? Please can people state what country the device was purchased from if they have this issue
Wow @Abnovitas thats really really bad. Sadly till now everyone seems to be from Germany...
I just finished chatting with Google's support.
They are going to replace the phone, but I'm still waiting for their email with instructions.
But first they walked me through some superficial settings (disabling Dark Mode and some accessibility stuff, like Color Inversion...) and then tried to talk it off as a normal property of OLED displays, which I didn't accept to this extent. But hey, that's probably just Google's policy.
Let's see if this was just bad luck in the OLED lottery.
For me its too difficult to take a picture with dark screen. The color change is slightly less than the picture from @man1acc
But i have problems with white color, it is light grey and i have green stripes on white, this is also very very difficult to make a picture.
Here you can see it a bit, but in real life it is much stronger
This is how my display looks like. Quite disappointing, Google has the same problems for years. But the phone itself is very well built, so maybe I will keep it. Bought the phone in Germany.
I have some rainbow effect which is mostly noticeable on white backgrounds. Hard to capture but found it is quite noticeable with an external light source. In this case my monitor. Anyone else have this or more importantly for a RMA, don't have it?
Pixel 6 when on a black background the right side of the display has a green tint shadow effect kinda worrying as it's not present on the left side and seems to only appear on darker backgrounds like when pull notification tab down or in a app (like xda) with black background very noticeable , or is this just standard now for Oled displays it's not the first phone I've noticed this over the years just curious if any pixel 6 owners see similar or should I get it exchange ? Added pic not sure if shows that well though
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Pixel 6 when on a black background the right side of the display has a green tint shadow effect kinda worrying as it's not present on the left side and seems to only appear on darker backgrounds like when pull notification tab down or in a app (like xda) with black background very noticeable , or is this just standard now for Oled displays it's not the first phone I've noticed this over the years just curious if any pixel 6 owners see similar or should I get it exchange ? Added pic not sure if shows that well though View attachment 5444907
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Not normal. Each pixel is controlled individually.
It maybe hardware or firmware.
Sounds like the display control matrix wasn't designed properly or is defective.
Your screenshot isn't showing it so neither should the display!
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...Your screenshot isn't showing it so neither should the display!
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Unfortunately not true. If it's an issue with the display, a screenshot should never show it. But it can be visible when a picture of it is taken.
My Pixel 6 (right) was bought first day from the Google Store. I'm in the USA. It has a very strong dirty red tint at the bottom and a garish green at the top. Easily visible at 60-70% brightness and lower. Here it is compared to my Pixel 4a (left), shot on my 3a. Haven't had uniformity issues this bad since my OG Pixel (which got replaced).
Waited to chat with a support rep for an hour, chatted for another hour, and have an RMA device ordered and on the way.
Maybe are cross to dark side lol
That was a joke id never cross to the dark side lol and tint only seems visible when in certain dark mode apps and not actually navigating around the phone xda app is worse lol so don't think hardware issue tbh
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Unfortunately not true. If it's an issue with the display, a screenshot should never show it. But it can be visible when a picture of it is taken.
My Pixel 6 (right) was bought first day from the Google Store. I'm in the USA. It has a very strong dirty red tint at the bottom and a garish green at the top. Easily visible at 60-70% brightness and lower. Here it is compared to my Pixel 4a (left), shot on my 3a. Haven't had uniformity issues this bad since my OG Pixel (which got replaced).
Waited to chat with a support rep for an hour, chatted for another hour, and have an RMA device ordered and on the way.
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Lol, read what I said again
At any rate... that's a dud.
Just for giggles and kicks, see if lowering the refresh rate effects that.
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Lol, read what I said again
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You're right, I misunderstood my bad
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You're right, I misunderstood my bad
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My bad too, it wasn't worded as concise as it could have been.
who of you all has the problem with the green rainbow effect on a white background?