My last three phones have been the Note 2/3/4 and just purchased the G5 RS988 two weeks ago from BHPhoto while it was on sale.
So far the phone has been pretty good, and been working with Verizon with my current SIM card, but I do have a few questions.
1) Even though I have HD Voice Advanced Calling (VoLTE) added on my account, the phone's settings menu will only allow Advanced Voice Calling with the Video Calling grayed out. Is there a way for the video calling to also work?
2) I don't see any options for WiFi calling?
3) When using the 3.5mm headphone jack with a set of earbuds or regular headphones, the volume level isn't nearly as loud as other phones. Normally Viper4Android would fix this, but no root/custom ROM on the RS988. Any other way to get more volume when using headphones?
4) I was hoping the different Theme downloads would also change the white with mint green look of the Settings menu, but it doesn't. Again, I guess this can't be changed due to no root/rom access.
Despite those questions, I do like the G5 more than the Moto X Pure Edition that I tried out earlier in the month. I had wanted to go with the V20, but the G5 was half the price.
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My last three phones have been the Note 2/3/4 and just purchased the G5 RS988 two weeks ago from BHPhoto while it was on sale.
So far the phone has been pretty good, and been working with Verizon with my current SIM card, but I do have a few questions.
1) Even though I have HD Voice Advanced Calling (VoLTE) added on my account, the phone's settings menu will only allow Advanced Voice Calling with the Video Calling grayed out. Is there a way for the video calling to also work?
2) I don't see any options for WiFi calling?
3) When using the 3.5mm headphone jack with a set of earbuds or regular headphones, the volume level isn't nearly as loud as other phones. Normally Viper4Android would fix this, but no root/custom ROM on the RS988. Any other way to get more volume when using headphones?
4) I was hoping the different Theme downloads would also change the white with mint green look of the Settings menu, but it doesn't. Again, I guess this can't be changed due to no root/rom access.
Despite those questions, I do like the G5 more than the Moto X Pure Edition that I tried out earlier in the month. I had wanted to go with the V20, but the G5 was half the price.
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1. Not sure, can someone else answer this?
2. It should be in phone app settings. If not then that version of phone doesn't support it
3. Volume+ free search in app store.
4. You are correct.
Smart decision V20 slightly better in specs, but for that…um not worth double the price.
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1. Not sure, can someone else answer this?
2. It should be in phone app settings. If not then that version of phone doesn't support it
3. Volume+ free search in app store.
4. You are correct.
Smart decision V20 slightly better in specs, but for that…um not worth double the price.
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So tried Volume+ but turning on the Headset and increasing from the setting from 0 to +4 actually makes it quieter. This was stated on the download page that this could happen on Stock ROMs.
1. To the best of my knowledge, Video Calling doesn't work. I spent several hours at one of the more tech savvy Verizon stores before they bumped it up to the next level of tech support. I was assured that someone would call me back within a day. That was 4 months ago. I just use Google Duo instead.
2. No support for Wifi calling. Sorry.
3. I honestly hadn't noticed the volume issue, so I can't be much help here.
4. Again, I haven't played with Themes, so I'm no help.
If I were you, I would seriously consider returning the phone to B&H within the 30 day period. It's a good phone, but it currently appears that LG doesn't have any plans to release an Android 7.0 update for the RS988. All the major carriers got the update, but numerous calls to LG support have gone nowhere with this phone. It's hard to believe that a factory unlocked "flagship" phone would get ignored by the manufacturer, but that seems to be the case.
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1If I were you, I would seriously consider returning the phone to B&H within the 30 day period. It's a good phone, but it currently appears that LG doesn't have any plans to release an Android 7.0 update for the RS988. All the major carriers got the update, but numerous calls to LG support have gone nowhere with this phone. It's hard to believe that a factory unlocked "flagship" phone would get ignored by the manufacturer, but that seems to be the case.
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That's too bad if LG doesn't upgrade the RS988 to Android 7 L, as the carrier models have already received their updates over the past couple months.
Since the price BHPhoto had on the G5 was $399, including the 2nd battery, charging cradle, cam mod and VR headset (both of those are really no use to me, and the VR unit is pretty bad), it still is about 300 off retail.
My current issues is that I am so use to the larger 5.7" AMOLED Note series, that going to a smaller LCD screen has been an adjustment, but have been getting use to it.
But besides that, I'm pretty upset with Verizon right now. I've been with them for over 15 years (when there was PrimeCo in FL). Earlier this month I ordered the Moto Z Play Droid on my 2nd line for my mom, as it was $100 with a 2 year contract. I was not aware the line access fee would double from $20 to $40, so called two days later to cancel, but since it had already been shipped, they did an internal UPS return for it to be sent back. Then last week, I went to Best Buy Mobile store to purchase the regular Moto Z Droid that was on a $4.99/month ($120) promo for that line, but it wouldn't process, as Verizon still showed an outstanding order waiting for activation. I called Version and was on the phone with them for an hour, they said it was fixed, I went back to the store and still had the same problem, so they called and talked to Verizon for 2 HOURS and still could not get it resolved. Then the following day (23rd) I was told it was resolved and could go back to the store or order it online, so I opted for the online order. Now today Best Buy send an email saying the online order was canceled. I called them up, and they can't give me a reason why, expect to say if the phone wasn't able to be activated on the line, it is automatically canceled.
Once again I called back to Verizon, given the same "your Moto Z Play order was canceled and returned back, so it shouldn't cause an issue for ordering another phone". But now, the Best Buy $4.99/month promo for the Z Droid ended and is now $14/month (or $26 with Verizon directly), so I'm not getting it.
This was hours of headache, and I'm still not really sure if the problem was fixed or not. So at this point I may wait to see what new promos come out next year with the LG G6 or Samsung S8, and may just end up changing carriers to T-Mobile is they have an attractive new customer promo.
So with that in mind, and regarding the G5 RS988, I could continue using it with Verizon, and if I decided to change carriers next year, I could use it with the new carrier (as it is unlocked), or sell it. Or just send it back now for the $400 refund and go back to my Note 4 and wait to see what pricing is out next year.
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That's too bad if LG doesn't upgrade the RS988 to Android 7 L, as the carrier models have already received their updates over the past couple months.
Since the price BHPhoto had on the G5 was $399, including the 2nd battery, charging cradle, cam mod and VR headset (both of those are really no use to me, and the VR unit is pretty bad), it still is about 300 off retail.
My current issues is that I am so use to the larger 5.7" AMOLED Note series, that going to a smaller LCD screen has been an adjustment, but have been getting use to it.
But besides that, I'm pretty upset with Verizon right now. I've been with them for over 15 years (when there was PrimeCo in FL). Earlier this month I ordered the Moto Z Play Droid on my 2nd line for my mom, as it was $100 with a 2 year contract. I was not aware the line access fee would double from $20 to $40, so called two days later to cancel, but since it had already been shipped, they did an internal UPS return for it to be sent back. Then last week, I went to Best Buy Mobile store to purchase the regular Moto Z Droid that was on a $4.99/month ($120) promo for that line, but it wouldn't process, as Verizon still showed an outstanding order waiting for activation. I called Version and was on the phone with them for an hour, they said it was fixed, I went back to the store and still had the same problem, so they called and talked to Verizon for 2 HOURS and still could not get it resolved. Then the following day (23rd) I was told it was resolved and could go back to the store or order it online, so I opted for the online order. Now today Best Buy send an email saying the online order was canceled. I called them up, and they can't give me a reason why, expect to say if the phone wasn't able to be activated on the line, it is automatically canceled.
Once again I called back to Verizon, given the same "your Moto Z Play order was canceled and returned back, so it shouldn't cause an issue for ordering another phone". But now, the Best Buy $4.99/month promo for the Z Droid ended and is now $14/month (or $26 with Verizon directly), so I'm not getting it.
This was hours of headache, and I'm still not really sure if the problem was fixed or not. So at this point I may wait to see what new promos come out next year with the LG G6 or Samsung S8, and may just end up changing carriers to T-Mobile is they have an attractive new customer promo.
So with that in mind, and regarding the G5 RS988, I could continue using it with Verizon, and if I decided to change carriers next year, I could use it with the new carrier (as it is unlocked), or sell it. Or just send it back now for the $400 refund and go back to my Note 4 and wait to see what pricing is out next year.
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Dear lord change carriers lol. Tmobile is where it's at imo.
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Anyone hear of any good deals on the HTC Titan releasing on AT&T this Sunday? I know it'll be $200 straight from AT&T on a new/upgrade line. Anyone hear anything else from other retailers?
Or even, what is the unactivated price of the phone? Haven't seen AT&T speak a word about it being bought outright.
no **** if they can register online for a new windows phone for $0.01 and i am thinking that Titan would be the same.
Or will be and Bogo (Buy one get one) like other rumor before.
So sad that i am not american, or having SSN to register online.
Would love to trade in my UK Titan for AT&T Titan since i need U.S Agent on the phone, not UK.
Finally listed on the AT&T site: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...+TITAN+(TM)&q_sku=sku5400337#fbid=VqHNNV47IAn
$199.99 on a 2 year commitment
$549.99 without a commitment
Oh yeah. Are you gonna get it my friend? I need some review of At&t version just in case some **** change inside the phone compare to the UK vesion
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Oh yeah. Are you gonna get it my friend? I need some review of At&t version just in case some **** change inside the phone compare to the UK vesion
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Course I'm gonna get it. I just want to find a place with the best price today. XD
Went to my local AT&T store today and they did not get any Titans in yet.
What a disappointment!
Same here. I've called every store in a 75 mile radius, and none of them have it in stock. My local store says they don't even have an estimate of when they will get any.
So frustrating for ATT to post that it will arrive on the 20th, but then they don't have ANY available to get your hands on.
I even went online to upgrade my line on the ATT site, but when I click that I want to upgrade, it gives me the iPhone ONLY! No options for any other phone. Hmmm Starting to sound like Bill upset ATT at some point...
I just called 611 and asked them where I could get it. She put me on hold and called all the same stores I did and got back on the line and let me know she was unable to find any either.
Also, my local ATT Rep that I deal with told me that ATT took his Company Owned WP7 from him and replaced it with an LTE Android phone. He said he asked to keep his WP7, but they will not allow him to because they are pushing their LTE network. He's pretty frustrated...
I'll cross-post this from my original WPCentral post.
I had to try two stores but the 2nd one actually had the Titan on display, in the place of the Focus. It was next to the Focus S, which was convenient.
Impressions:
Love it. I want one, definitely. Build quality is fantastic, feels great on the hand, not too large at all.
I compared the screen to the Focus S and I prefer the Titan. The white point is better and it doesn't turn blue when you view at an angle. The contrast is also very good, though obviously the blacks on AMOLED are nill, and LCD can't compete with that. But blacks are not the only screen characteristic, and combining them all, I prefer the Titan's. On full brightness, I think both were equivalent.
I prefer the Titan's button layout. Not going to do many accidental button presses when handling, unlike the Focus S.
The one thing I prefer about the Focus S is the oleophobic screen coating. I tend to have moist hands, and my finger glides with less effort on the Focus S, whereas on the Titan it's more like sliding down a regular piece of glass. I will get used to it, but I thought I'd mention it.
Oh, the Focus S was plugged in and it DEFINITELY has a typing lag. The Titan was not plugged in, and everything was fluid and snappy, including typing.
I had a conversation about the $0.01 sale and they caught onto some language on the AT&T site that says:
Exclusively at att.com - starting Friday, November 25 through Monday, November 28, customers can enjoy select Windows 7, BlackBerry and Android devices starting at only a penny.
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But below, under Saturday, it clearly says "All WP7 devices."
They sent an e-mail to a manager to see if they could do anything about that deal for me, as well as waive activation on the two lines. If not, I'll just wait until Saturday and order online without the hassles and arguing.
On a side note, they also said the employee discount does NOT apply to the $30 messaging unlimited service item, only to the base plan and data package. This is a bummer, if true. I'll try arguing with Premier over the phone after I get all set up, either this week or next Saturday.
Hell, I can't even find a store that 1. Knows what phone I'm talking about. And then 2, has the Titan in. I went to two separate stores and the first girl didn't know what phone I was talking about and said, I don't think we have a phone called that. You may be referring to the "Vivid"? Another associate walked by and she asked her. She said she saw the display in the back, but the phone hadn't come in. Try back tomorrow around noon. Second store, the lady at first didn't know about the Titan, then after I jogged her memory, she said oh yeah, we have the display out, but no phones. She proceeded to ask her manager about it and he said, they pushed their ship date back and it may be a few days. WTF!
I tried almost 10 different stores in the Kansas City Missouri/Kansas area and all of them either did not have any, didn't get it in yet, or sold what little they had. One store had a demo, another store said they sold 2 this morning but that was all they had.
Most of the stores told me that they were expecting them tomorrow. So I guess I'm making another trip out tomorrow...
So, what happened? The iPhone was EVERYWHERE! Ready to sell at midnight +1 second. Why is this phone so hard to get ahold of? Did HTC Fail on shipment? Did ATT Fail on ordering? What the heck? And WHY did ATT announce it's Nov 20th availability, when they knew they would not have it?
Hey, I'm a big boy, so I'll survive, but it is a bit silly...
It's frustrating that iPhone is treated like a princess, even though many people really don't prefer it. My thought is that Apple is kicking back a LOT of money to ATT to make it so.
If you have a Microsoft retail store in your area, most likely they are in stock.
oh yeah? so look like all americans can buy titan pretty cheap.
i might look for somebody here to trade in the UK version for US version if there aren't any downgrade in the hardware. Ha!
Maybe, because i just can't stand the British accent.
Hit me up when you have them, i want to hear the review from you guys.
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Just picked up my Titan from the AT&T store yesterday after church. The guy said it was the last one. I asked how many did you get? He said only one. I'm like WHAT! What's up with that man?! So he says they don't get many of the new phones when they're first released. So I asked how about the new android phone. They got 6 of those in. So I said dude, why is AT&T hatin on WP7. LoL
Anyway, it was only $99 in the store yesterday. $199 if you purchased online. Don't know if the price is the same today or not but that was my experience.
So far so good. I logged in to my windows live account online, went to market place and reinstalled all of my app's that I previously had on my HTC Surround. The apps were practically installing as fast as I could go through my list and choose them. When I clicked on the last one to install and checked my phone out it was already done. I had my phone connected to my wifi at the time. The flash is super bright, and the battery life has been good. Had full battery still when I woke up this morning. Didn't leave it charging. Then I took the Navigon GPS software for a test run on the way to work this morning. Battery is holding pretty well after a 30 minute drive using GPS. Looks like it may have dropped maybe 10%. I'll report again this evening after a full days use.
I'm planning on ordering this online Friday for a penny.. I was going to wait for the 3rd gen phones but for a penny I cannot resist!!!
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Just picked up my Titan from the AT&T store yesterday after church. The guy said it was the last one. I asked how many did you get? He said only one. I'm like WHAT! What's up with that man?! So he says they don't get many of the new phones when they're first released. So I asked how about the new android phone. They got 6 of those in. So I said dude, why is AT&T hatin on WP7. LoL
Anyway, it was only $99 in the store yesterday. $199 if you purchased online. Don't know if the price is the same today or not but that was my experience.
So far so good. I logged in to my windows live account online, went to market place and reinstalled all of my app's that I previously had on my HTC Surround. The apps were practically installing as fast as I could go through my list and choose them. When I clicked on the last one to install and checked my phone out it was already done. I had my phone connected to my wifi at the time. The flash is super bright, and the battery life has been good. Had full battery still when I woke up this morning. Didn't leave it charging. Then I took the Navigon GPS software for a test run on the way to work this morning. Battery is holding pretty well after a 30 minute drive using GPS. Looks like it may have dropped maybe 10%. I'll report again this evening after a full days use.
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$99 in store? What!? Is that special pricing or something or did it actually say that on the price tag in the store?
I totally didn't look at the price tag of the demo phone, I was too busy looking at the phone. I should double check today!
I also picked one up, but not for $99 ($199). I'd like to know if they messed that up too, or if you just got lucky.
My daughter invited us to dinner last night about 50 miles away from my house, so I made calls to stores close to her. The closest one was 25 miles past her house and they only had 1 left out of 4. The held it for me, and now I am the proud owner of a new Titan. So far, I really love it. I have not had a chance to play much, but I'm sure I'll be posting more as I get into it more.
I'm REALLY glad to hear about the battery being pretty good a couple posts up. My Focus was dying pretty quickly, so I hope this helps.
Congrats to all the other new owners!
PS: I did get a chance to try Tango Video Chat with my Wife's iPhone 4s, and I have to say, the video quality in & out is 200% better on the Titan than it was on my Focus.
i think i will go to Radioshack or AT&T store today and check if they have them because i see none last night at bestbuy.
Well, welcome aboard the Titan Owner Club guys, prjkthack just need to buy it,my friend. haha.
can you guys check if the AT&T version do the turn-by-turn navigation with bing map?
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i think i will go to Radioshack or AT&T store today and check if they have them because i see none last night at bestbuy.
Well, welcome aboard the Titan Owner Club guys, prjkthack just need to buy it,my friend. haha.
can you guys check if the AT&T version do the turn-by-turn navigation with bing map?
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I'm sure as long as its in the US with a US Live ID, that turn-by-turn will work with Bing. I don't think its a phone/hardware thing, more of a location of the phone/regional setting/Live ID thing.
Also, Radio Shack doesn't have any in-store. They do online. They generally don't carry a lot of Windows Phone devices (almost none to be exact).
Update: Gave in and just ordered it directly online from at&t. Which I guess I won't have to deal with store employees but at the same time, just means I gotta wait another day or two. Hopefully it ships out today.
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It works just like it did on my Focus. Tap to hear the next item... ATT/California, US
If i buy a new Samsung galaxy note 2 from the Verizon store will it have the OTA update that locks the boot loader
New OTA = Bad ;(
More then likely. Seeing how they also update it and set it up before they even hand it to you.
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Tell them before they get the phone out that if they accept the update you are going to use the 14 day return right on the spot. Or by it online and have it shipped so you control it. I find its a bit cheaper that way. The stores always find fees to track on.
I bought my N2 from a local VZ store the day they where released.
When I bought mine, I didn't want some VZ douche who was totally clueless (I'm not saying they are all that way) messing with the new phone so I simply told them "I just want it new in the box, I will activate it myself".
I paid for it, took it home and used the SIM from my G3 to activate it. If you do what I did, you don't have to worry about any OTAs etc. (or anything else for that matter, I was in a local VZ store recently when a VZ tech dropped a Woman's Galaxy G2 on a tile floor)
Another time, I saw a female tech pry off an OtterBox case with a nail file........
Been debating on this for a while, and think I'm going to pick up something new this week if I decide to grab a new phone.
Phone will be on Verizon.
I'll be using this 90% of the time in the PAC NW area of the country. other 10% will be divided up between DC/South US/Hawaii/INTL.
I've been checking spec comparisons between them and a few other phones on multiple sites, but wanted to see if any of you had a first hand opinion between these choices.
Right now I'm looking at the Moto X (32GB) , LG G2, HTC ONE, and Galaxy S4, was thinking about getting the Nexus 5 and jumping carriers, but I really can't see any benefit to it that the other phones don't have aside from vanilla android.
i.e. this link to phonescoop comparing the Rezound, Moto X, HTC One, HTC One Max, and Nexus 5
phonescoop link
and this one on phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and G2
phone arena link
and another one from phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and HTC One.
phone arena link 2
one more from phone arena comparing the Moto X, LG G2, and Galaxy S4
yet another phone arena link
and my last comparison, the Rezound vs Moto X, S4, One, G2
last link I swear!
My biggest pros for any of the newer ones are the scratch resistant screen, more LTE bands & more GSM bands for when I travel.
As well as NFC would be fun to mess around with, as well as the faster cpu / gpu / more ram. Granted I can't think of anything the rezound hasn't been able to run aside from GTA-VC which is only second hand to me as I haven't tried it.
moto x specific pros-
S-GPS
EDR for bluetooth
only $100 for 32GB version
moto maker if i want it in crazy colors
lg g2 specific pros-
fastest cpu / fasted gpu
quadcore cpu
biggest battery
biggest screen
faster ram
htc onc specific pros-
love the look, and like the built in stereo speakers
samsung galaxy s4 specific pros-
quadcore cpu
highest PPI on screen
faster ram
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
What I'm asking after all of that rambling is first hand comparisons between the rezounds and these devices, or these devices compared amongst each other.
aka- Sway me one way or the other.
TL;DR - have rezound, debating on Moto X / LG G2 / HTC ONE / Galaxy S4. Any first hand experiences to compare them?
Thanks!
I have the HTC one and I can tell u it's GREAT. I didn't think any phones were worth upgrading from the rezound this year but when my phone cracked 3 weeks ago I had to get a new one. I went threw the same comparisons but instead of nexus 5 it was note 3. I knew the specs of the note 3 were the best of them all but I really don't like touchwiz so that was out of the question and the s4. Then I saw the moto x but it was still $199 at Verizon and $99 on every other carrier plus no moto maker so that was out of the question. Then it was the one vs g2. I used both at a Verizon store and well the G2 was nice the one and it's metal build were just so much nicer. Also the speakers were a great add on and I wasn't really feeling the button on the back of the G2. Also the one has the highest ppi of all the phones not the s4. Either phone is a great choice but I can tell u I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time easy with auto brightness on the one and about a day and a half usage moderate. Also I have experienced no lag whatsoever on the one
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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^^^ I second this...
Any of them would be step up, you wouldn't be disappointed at all, but the LG G2 is a beast (3000mah battery) if you are stuck with Verizon for whatever reason, but if you can jump ship the Nexus 5 on a pre-paid GSM carrier is the way to go, for an unlimited talk/text plan with 2-3Gb data it will run you $45-$60/month... saving about $40-$55 monthly over a standard VZW plan easily paying for the phone in 6-9 months.
I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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I was holding out hope that the Nexus 5 would some how come to VZW. While I was waiting, my wife picked out the G2. I put Scott Scrosler's Clean ROM and she really enjoys this phone. I've been playing with it and waiting for the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I found a way to get the G2 for free. This phone is great and there's a lot of dev support. If you have to stick with VZW and the price of all the phones is the same, I recommend the G2.
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I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
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Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
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They did for a while, but @beaups got it working... at least until the KK update drops and VZW tries again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
I have had the one for a little over a month. Will say its a good phone with good battery life. Sure there is the possible purple tent issue but nor all of them has this problem. Best to check the camera out by covering the lens with your hand and see if you get the purple tent. Rooting is easy and as always some great ROMs already out there. The all aluminium body is a real plus for this phone.
I tried the camera on the moto line of phones and the picture just turned out grainy and bad. Even with the one purple tent in low light settings its still takes a great pic just like the s4 does. Think HTC finally got sense under control as its not laggy and doesn't seem as a battery drain like older versions of sense was. In the end people likes different things and you will never know till you use it. Nice thing Verizon has the 14 day return policies. Good luck in your choice.
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there a big different between Rezound and last phones today
its like PC with SSD now really quick less lags
the internal storage IOP/S is way higher then older phones
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Been debating on this for a while, and think
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
Thanks!
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go with GPro
*WALL OF TEXT INCOMING* (just a friendly warning)
I ended up ordering the LG G2 (staying with verizon) from bestbuy.
last sunday, (the 17th) I noticed that bestbuy had all of the lg g2s marked down to 100$ and had a 50$ gift card, so I checked it out on the best buy website, and saw that you had to bring in a working smartphone to trade in to get it at that price, but if you ordered online, it took the 50$ off instantly.
While looking on the Bestbuy website at the LG G2s, for some reason, even though every other carriers version was $99.99, the verizon one was listed at $49.99.
I ordered it online, thinking they would kick the order out and that it was an errror or something.
I figured $50 for the phone and a $50 bestbuy giftcard, probably an error or an early black friday price mistake.
They sent an email the next day saying there was an urgent problem with the order and call within 48 hrs or it would be cancelled, I called and the rep couldnt figure out why it sent me that email, and after being on hold for about 30 minutes came back and said they called shipping and had them force the order though.
They also said they spoke to verizon and had it activated, I didn't think anything of it at the time and just said thanks.
After the call, i put the phone down and a few minutes later went to call my wife, but when I hit send, it rang and then said "this phone is not registered with verizon" or something to that effect, then I remembered the rep said they activated the new phone. FACEPALM time.
I tried a few other numbers, same error message. tried 611, it rang! went through 3 reps telling them exactly what I thought happened (the bestbuy person got confused and got someone from vzw to activate a new phone on my line w/o a new imei or new sim somehow). 3rd rep i spoke with said that was exactly what happened. took about 10-15 minutes but reset everything back to my original imei/sim (the htc rezound). so now i can make calls again.
2 days later got a shipment notification email.
of note- I noticed monday morning when I logged into bestbuys website to check the order status (this is before receiving the problem email) to see if it shipped yet, and the price was up to $99.99 for all carriers including verizon, and now had an extra line on the page- it's 150 at the store, and when you bring in a smartphone to trade in, you get a 50$ gift card that you then HAVE to use in the transaction to get the price down to $99.99. online orders still took the price to $99.99 immediately.
Been checking today since it's supposed to arrive today, and it looks like it's back up to 199.99 and they are still doing the gift card, but you have to trade in a smartphone and use the giftcard on the spot to get it down to 150.
tl:dr-
50$ for the G2, free shipping (but slowwwwwww, totally should have paid the 10$ to get it in 2 days if i knew it was going to take 7 days) and 50$ best buy gift card.
and i finally got the email an hour ago for the 50$ bestbuy egiftcard.
of note, they pricematch, so I'm hoping someone lowers it to $.01 for black friday and then I can go get my $50 back and have it for free!
chose the g2 since it was marked down so low and has the faster CPU/GPU, even though i won't be able to change the battery (but it does have the biggest stock battery at 3000ma, which is awesome since my std rezound battery only lasts a few hours and the extended battery doesn't even last a day anymore)
Thanks for the advice everyone!
after a week with the G2, i've got to say it's amazing. I still have the rezound and will start tinkering with it since i finally have another device, but the G2 is insanely fast at everything so far. love it. can't recommend it enough.
I would like to replace my Verizon flip phone with the LG G5.
Don't try to talk me out of it, I like the wide-angle camera and the native 16:9 camera sensor.
I also like the idea of getting my hands on one for under $300.
And yet I am very aware that over time this phone can develop problems with Wi-Fi, GPS, camera focusing, etc.
SO, my question is > What is the best way to get a deal on the LG G5 that will allow me to replace it or send it back to LG
for repair under warranty in case any major problems pop up during the next year or two?
Some background: I am on a Verizon unlimited plan with four lines (1 iPhone, 2 flip phones, and 1 tablet).
All devices are paid off, so no particular commitment to stay with Verizon, although it would be easier
not to have to replace each device if we moved over to T-Mobile (second choice).
The best deal I've seen was last month from Best Buy ($5 month/24 months - $120 total). I missed that,
so I keep checking Best Buy's site, hoping that same deal will be repeated. At the moment they list the Verizon LG G5
at $15/month, which is a better deal than Verizon themselves, who list it at $20/month.
>> Does getting a potentially troubled phone from a carrier offer more protection for replacement or repair
over buying one from Best Buy, Amazon, or even Swappa, or will LG's warranty be just as good from any of these options?
Just trying to get the best deal and protection on a new LG G5. Any thoughts?
VonDrake2 said:
I would like to replace my Verizon flip phone with the LG G5.
Don't try to talk me out of it, I like the wide-angle camera and the native 16:9 camera sensor.
I also like the idea of getting my hands on one for under $300.
And yet I am very aware that over time this phone can develop problems with Wi-Fi, GPS, camera focusing, etc.
SO, my question is > What is the best way to get a deal on the LG G5 that will allow me to replace it or send it back to LG
for repair under warranty in case any major problems pop up during the next year or two?
Some background: I am on a Verizon unlimited plan with four lines (1 iPhone, 2 flip phones, and 1 tablet).
All devices are paid off, so no particular commitment to stay with Verizon, although it would be easier
not to have to replace each device if we moved over to T-Mobile (second choice).
The best deal I've seen was last month from Best Buy ($5 month/24 months - $120 total). I missed that,
so I keep checking Best Buy's site, hoping that same deal will be repeated. At the moment they list the Verizon LG G5
at $15/month, which is a better deal than Verizon themselves, who list it at $20/month.
>> Does getting a potentially troubled phone from a carrier offer more protection for replacement or repair
over buying one from Best Buy, Amazon, or even Swappa, or will LG's warranty be just as good from any of these options?
Just trying to get the best deal and protection on a new LG G5. Any thoughts?
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First of all, overall the LG g5 is actually a good phone. Yes, there can be some issues, but overall if you get a decent one you'll be happy. Now, are you looking to be able to root and / or use custom ROMs? If so either get the T-Mobile h830 and switch to T-Mobile as it had root and custom ROMs available or the RS988 from b&h photo as it works on Verizon (just pop in an already activated Verizon sim card and it works without issues) if you're wanting to stay on Verizon and get root (only root is available currently for rs988). Also, b&h photo has a really decent warranty they they offer when you buy from them. Other benefit of RS988 is that if you decide to change to T-MOBILE or at&t at a later time, you can do that as it has the correct bands for all 3 carries. If you don't care about root / custom ROMs and are 100% sure you want to stay on Verizon you could go with Verizon itself although you would want to get insurance and that's a monthly charge and big deductible and you'll only get a refurbished version of they can't fix it instead of paying a one time fee for warranty and much smaller deductible with b&h. So, will depend on what you're truly looking for. I had the RS988 and used it on Verizon and T-MOBILE without any issues although I returned it as I really needed root and custom ROMs and at the time it wasn't possible except on international h850 and T-Mobile h830, so I got the T-Mobile version. Oh and other thing, as far as warranty goes, it's the same no matter if you go through Verizon, T-MOBILE, b&h or best buy as warranty is from LG for 1 year. Hopefully this helps
Thanks jeffsga88 for all that info. It sounds like it's better to rely on LG's free year-long warranty
rather then paying a carrier an extra insurance fee.
Is it correct that if I got a used phone on Swappa, the warranty would only be good for a year from
when the phone was originally purchased?
For the LG G5, I am not particularly interested in rooting. I am fully aware that this is a rooting site,
but it seems people on XDA forums really know their stuff, which is why I'm seeking out help here.
I am mostly interested in getting a model that will work with Verizon here in the US,
and also work in Western Europe on their GSM network. T-Mobile works with GSM,
so no problem there, which I why I might consider switching.
However, my research shows that even an LG G5 Verizon CDMA model should work on
European GSM networks. I hope this is correct.
VonDrake2 said:
Thanks jeffsga88 for all that info. It sounds like it's better to rely on LG's free year-long warranty
rather then paying a carrier an extra insurance fee.
Is it correct that if I got a used phone on Swappa, the warranty would only be good for a year from
when the phone was originally purchased?
For the LG G5, I am not particularly interested in rooting. I am fully aware that this is a rooting site,
but it seems people on XDA forums really know their stuff, which is why I'm seeking out help here.
I am mostly interested in getting a model that will work with Verizon here in the US,
and also work in Western Europe on their GSM network. T-Mobile works with GSM,
so no problem there, which I why I might consider switching.
However, my research shows that even an LG G5 Verizon CDMA model should work on
European GSM networks. I hope this is correct.
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No problem. If you buy off of swappa, you'll most likely not have warranty for two reasons. Number one is because the warranty is most likely past and number two is for warranty you need original proof of purchase which you probably won't get. I recommend getting from Best buy or b&h. As far as being able to use all the networks, I'd say you're better off getting the RS988 from b&h photo. It will have coverage on all the bands and will have a brand new 1 year warranty plus you could buy a warranty for $50 / 1 year or $80 / 2 year one time fee when you buy it and it covers spills and drops Oh, and you don't pay sales tax when you buy from them
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
See attached screenshot for the bands this version has.
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No problem. If you buy off of swappa, you'll most likely not have warranty for two reasons. Number one is because the warranty is most likely past and number two is for warranty you need original proof of purchase which you probably won't get. I recommend getting from Best buy or b&h. As far as being able to use all the networks, I'd say you're better off getting the RS988 from b&h photo. It will have coverage on all the bands and will have a brand new 1 year warranty plus you could buy a warranty for $50 / 1 year or $80 / 2 year one time fee when you buy it and it covers spills and drops Oh, and you don't pay sales tax when you buy from them
See attached screenshot for the bands this version has.
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Thanks again jeffsga88 - that B&H RS988 model seems like the one to get.
At the moment B&H's price is $399. I might wait until the price gets closer to $299.
Don't know if this sounds crazy or not, it's just that I know there's that $120 Best Buy deal out there,
(or was out there), so a lower price seems preferable.
VonDrake2 said:
Thanks again jeffsga88 - that B&H RS988 model seems like the one to get.
At the moment B&H's price is $399. I might wait until the price gets closer to $299.
Don't know if this sounds crazy or not, it's just that I know there's that $120 Best Buy deal out there,
(or was out there), so a lower price seems preferable.
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Yeah, the price will drop eventually. Not sure how long it will take but it will eventually drop. Was checking best buy and they have the rs988 too for $375 with a free battery and charging dock, but even at $375 it will be more then b&h with tax. If you're ok waiting a couple months I'd guess price will drop. Especially as more flagships come out this year and as LG gets closer to V30 release time.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-g5-4g-lte-with-32gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-silver/5199300.p?skuId=5199300#bonus-content
Edit: Also on b&h photo you can buy used for $249.95 with no tax. They say it won't be under manufacturer warranty but is covered by their warranty. You would need to email their support to get more details on what is covered and how long as I don't know. Here's the link for used one:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801549589-USE/lg_lgrs988_ausatn_g5_rs988_32gb_smartphone.html
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Yeah, the price will drop eventually. Not sure how long it will take but it will eventually drop. Was checking best buy and they have the rs988 too for $375 with a free battery and charging dock, but even at $375 it will be more then b&h with tax. If you're ok waiting a couple months I'd guess price will drop. Especially as more flagships come out this year and as LG gets closer to V30 release time.
Edit: Also on b&h photo you can buy used for $249.95 with no tax. They say it won't be under manufacturer warranty but is covered by their warranty. You would need to email their support to get more details on what is covered and how long as I don't know. Here's the link for used one:
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I'll wait as long as I can, which may not be very long.
However, according to comments on the B&H and Amazon pages, this unlocked model RS988 won't work with Verizon Wi-Fi calling,
which I suppose I could live without. Just hoping it works with European GSM networks.
It's seems my best choices are either this LG G5 RS988, or waiting to see if that $5/month Best Buy deal comes up again.
VonDrake2 said:
I'll wait as long as I can, which may not be very long.
However, according to comments on the B&H and Amazon pages, this unlocked model RS988 won't work with Verizon Wi-Fi calling,
which I suppose I could live without. Just hoping it works with European GSM networks.
It's seems my best choices are either this LG G5 RS988, or waiting to see if that $5/month Best Buy deal comes up again.
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It may or may not, I never tested it while I had it As far as compatibility with EU GSM networks just Google search what network bands they use and check against the screenshot I posted earlier.
I just picked up a used AT&T g5 unlocked for $230.oo. I love it.
:highfive:
patrick73csun said:
I just picked up a used AT&T g5 unlocked for $230.oo. I love it.
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That's good to hear Patrick - it gives one confidence in the LG G5 - Thanks!
So it looks like this will be my second time buying from eBay where someone tries to scam me.
Turn on the phone, realize it's google locked, and spend about an hour researching how to get around it. Maybe the guy forgot to remove it from his account?
I look it up on Swappa and see that the IMEI is clear yet it was FINANCED! (not eligible for resale.)
To ask what is probably a stupid question, I don't have any options, do I?
This has been previously discussed in the Q&A section. I also bought a Google locked V30+ intentionally and was able to work around it. Search for "bypass FRP LG V30/G6 Android 8.0 2018"
grob971 said:
This has been previously discussed in the Q&A section. I also bought a Google locked V30+ intentionally and was able to work around it. Search for "bypass FRP LG V30/G6 Android 8.0 2018"
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I went through that whole long process. But now it won't activate on my network. I think since it was financed I can't use it.
TPMJB said:
I went through that whole long process. But now it won't activate on my network. I think since it was financed I can't use it.
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Then maybe the IMEI is not clean. I recommend contacting the seller or get eBay involved if the seller didn't disclose that the phone was financed.
grob971 said:
Then maybe the IMEI is not clean. I recommend contacting the seller or get eBay involved if the seller didn't disclose that the phone was financed.
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Actually, it's a Sprint phone and I'm using an ATT MVNO card, so I imagine that's why.
Either way, not disclosing it was financed AND google locked is a **** move
If I can fix it I at least want 50 bucks back. Cost me $230. It's otherwise mint, however.
TPMJB said:
Actually, it's a Sprint phone and I'm using an ATT MVNO card, so I imagine that's why.
Either way, not disclosing it was financed AND google locked is a **** move
If I can fix it I at least want 50 bucks back. Cost me $230. It's otherwise mint, however.
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Mine also was a LS998. Works perfectly on Straight Talk (ATT) after the Google bypass and converting to US998. Try the conversion and see if that resolves the network issue. Good luck.
grob971 said:
Mine also was a LS998. Works perfectly on Straight Talk (ATT) after the Google bypass and converting to US998. Try the conversion and see if that resolves the network issue. Good luck.
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It seems to recognize my SIM card now, but in Oreo US998 I can't change the APN settings (mine are wrong). Just stuck on the default ATT apn settings. No way to test it...
Edit: Sent myself a text ( I use google voice). It works!
Now I'm going to finish bootloader unlock and installing Pie...
...tomorrow lol. Also gonna try to get money back from eBay douchebag
TPMJB said:
So it looks like this will be my second time buying from eBay where someone tries to scam me.
Turn on the phone, realize it's google locked, and spend about an hour researching how to get around it. Maybe the guy forgot to remove it from his account?
I look it up on Swappa and see that the IMEI is clear yet it was FINANCED! (not eligible for resale.)
To ask what is probably a stupid question, I don't have any options, do I?
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You can get a refund from eBay due to seller dishonesty.
Next time, buy from eBay pro dealer who stands behind their products. Like this one:
LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $299
I've bought from that guy several times or had others buy from him. Just make sure you get the "mint" one. Use Frankenstein to convert to US998.
OR if you want BRAND NEW IN BOX -- with 2-year LG warranty:
LINK REMOVED AS SELLER IS NOT RELIABLE
ChazzMatt said:
You can get a refund from eBay due to seller dishonesty.
Next time, buy from eBay pro dealer who stands behind their products. Like this one:
LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $299
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS998-128GB-Titan-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-A-Mint/192609345150
I've bought from that guy several times or had others buy from him. Just make sure you get the "mint" one.
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I mean, it's working now I just had dicking around to do. Not thrilled, but it did only cost me $230 and is otherwise a mint V30+.
Still annoyed.
Though I think if someone gave me a V40 for free but I had to use it on Sprint's networks, it would be worse than my current situation :laugh:
Edit: Also your guide helped me out a TON! Thanks!
TPMJB said:
I mean, it's working now I just had dicking around to do. Not thrilled, but it did only cost me $230 and is otherwise a mint V30+.
Still annoyed.
Though I think if someone gave me a V40 for free but I had to use it on Sprint's networks, it would be worse than my current situation :laugh:
Edit: Also your guide helped me out a TON! Thanks!
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You paid $230 for a $350+ phone (even if it's used) and didn't expect problems? Why'd you think it was so cheap? That's why I use Swappa almost exclusively now.
Not to be a shill, I've got no connection to this listing. But if your'e fine with silver and 64gb base:
LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver-Mint
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173602248812
I just bought one at $319 less than two weeks ago and it was new in box, had the screen protector on it, etc. manufactured june of 2018 and it successfully qualified for 2nd year warranty. Legit. Best price I've seen shopping a ton on ebay and swappa.
Just bought another today, for my wife, the price is now $299. Super solid.
ldeveraux said:
You paid $230 for a $350+ phone (even if it's used) and didn't expect problems? Why'd you think it was so cheap? That's why I use Swappa almost exclusively now.
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Where the hell are you still finding the V30 for $350? Retail? Why would you buy a phone from retail?
I just picked up another one for $200 even. I'm giving it to a friend at cost after I unlock it so it can be used wherever (she is going back to Colombia in a month for good.) Colombia uses the same LTE bands we do, but this phone is Verizon Locked.
water- said:
Not to be a shill, I've got no connection to this listing. But if your'e fine with silver and 64gb base:
LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver-Mint
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173602248812
I just bought one at $319 less than two weeks ago and it was new in box, had the screen protector on it, etc. manufactured june of 2018 and it successfully qualified for 2nd year warranty. Legit. Best price I've seen shopping a ton on ebay and swappa.
Just bought another today, for my wife, the price is now $299. Super solid.
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Still more than I'd spend on a phone. First Apple jacked up the prices of phones because its followers are incredibly stupid. Capitalizing on this, Samsung did the same for no reason whatsoever and those sheep followed. Then Google released the first pixel for 3 times the price of the Nexus 6P (which is barely any better than the 6P, aside from hardware issues,) so on and so forth. I refuse to buy into this trend. People leasing phones like you would a car is a problem.
I agree with you entirely. The days of subsidized phones is over. Though I've seen the V30 go on sale for half of MSRP back in august on verizon for a few days. The Pixel 3 and 3 XL were buy one get one free for a week or so on Verizon. That's about $400~ for a new phone, which is reasonable.
When you paid $200, are you getting a new phone? I have my doubts about that. But link please if you're finding that.
Of course $300 is more than I'd like to spend. In 2015 early 2015 I got the LG G4 for $199 with a promo through Verizon, I wasn't changing carriers so had no problem with the 2 years contract. But for the tech I'm getting today compared to 2015, $100 more isn't terrible.
At the end of the day you certainly can choose not to lease but the MSRP of phones is crazy high. If you're getting a modern phone for cheap it's either really shady black market china/etc stuff (liable to get scammed), used, at least a year or more old model, or a flash deal that isn't something you can reliably bank on. I don't know how you can say you're opting out of high prices, you're not, you're compromising on something or have happened to get lucky in a way that isn't something everyone can plan on. $299 for a truly NEW, with mnfg warranty V30 is a pretty solid deal.
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Where the hell are you still finding the V30 for $350? Retail? Why would you buy a phone from retail?
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I'm not trying to weed through the same scams that you fell prey to on EBAY so I can find a phone that will maybe be as described, in decent condition, clean IMEI, etc. So if you want reputable; retail or Swappa or similar. Never EBAY. I was lucky to find a nice V30+ on Swappa, but there are no more for sale. I'm not talking about a V30. A V30+, like you said in the title. You know, the better one.
Bottom line is you found a deal that was literally too good to be true. Use discretion next time, especially if the device isn't even for you, but some mysterious Columbian 3rd party. Or whatever your story is now. :good:
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I'm not trying to weed through the same scams that you fell prey to on EBAY
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Some scam. I got a working V30+ for $230. Google locked ones that have good IMEIs but the owner didn't pay his dues still go for around $200.
Is an hour of my time worth $100? I'd say so.
Also, it's "Colombian."
water- said:
Not to be a shill, I've got no connection to this listing. But if your'e fine with silver and 64gb base:
LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver-Mint
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173602248812
I just bought one at $319 less than two weeks ago and it was new in box, had the screen protector on it, etc. manufactured june of 2018 and it successfully qualified for 2nd year warranty. Legit. Best price I've seen shopping a ton on ebay and swappa.
Just bought another today, for my wife, the price is now $299. Super solid.
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Same exact one I bought - first was at $319 for my wife... then I got jealous and she bought me the same one at $299 yesterday. Great deal for a BNIB phone, and I can certainly recommend the seller, as the device is exactly what was listed!
water- said:
Not to be a shill, I've got no connection to this listing. But if your'e fine with silver and 64gb base:
LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver-Mint
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173602248812
I just bought one at $319 less than two weeks ago and it was new in box, had the screen protector on it, etc. manufactured june of 2018 and it successfully qualified for 2nd year warranty. Legit. Best price I've seen shopping a ton on ebay and swappa.
Just bought another today, for my wife, the price is now $299. Super solid.
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schwinn8 said:
Same exact one I bought - first was at $319 for my wife... then I got jealous and she bought me the same one at $299 yesterday. Great deal for a BNIB phone, and I can certainly recommend the seller, as the device is exactly what was listed!
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I'll add this to the WTF thread later tonight. That way there's a good selection of mint 128GB V30+ ($299), new 64GB V30 ($299) for same price, and then new 128GB V30+ ($378) -- first from trusted seller, latter two with warranty.
The V30+ is an awesome device but I can't justify paying $300 for any phone. I got mine for under $200 on eBay back in August. Mint condition, clean IMEI but was Google locked. A little research and effort and I was able to bypass the lock and convert to US998 (thanks to the awesome guides in this forum). You can still find these on eBay if you're willing to put in the effort. Definitely worth the $100+ savings. At least to me.
A bit late to the party, but if it hasn't already been said:
Clean IMEI means that the device has never been network blacklisted. Usually blacklisting happens because it's reported stolen or lost, and is irreversible as far as the consumer is concerned; it permanently blocks activation for the network.
Clean IMEI and no other flags means good to go.
Financed means it's still attached to an account and is still owed money on. You might be able to contact the carrier and pay off the balance; this would release the phone for reactivation, but will probably increase the cost to the point where you would be better off just buying a clear phone.
A financed phone is a ticking time bomb. At the point that the carrier decides that the original customer has no intention of paying the phone off, they'll blacklist the IMEI so it can never be activated on that network again (this includes MVNOs using solely that network).
Don't buy phones that are financed unless you know you'll never use it on its home network. If you have a decent feedback score, ask private sellers for the IMEI so you can check it before buying. Or, as others have said... just spend a bit more and buy from a reputable seller.
Septfox said:
Don't buy phones that are financed unless you know you'll never use it on its home network. If you have a decent feedback score, ask private sellers for the IMEI so you can check it before buying.
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Agree 100%. That's where you have to do your research and put in a little effort before hitting the buy button. Do this and you can certainly get yourself an incredible deal on these incredible phones.