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So i looked up a few ROMS from the sticky'd post on this forum and I am trying to decide which one is for me. Some provide a better description than others but at the end of the day I cannot figure out what I am really gaining and what I am losing.
I have a basic understanding of ROMs (or firmware or whatever people want to call them), but what it comes down to is a new operating system. My biggest question is what will I be losing? Right now my Nexus 10 is rooted but running google's standard os.What if I were to install Cyanogenmod 10 or any of the other roms. How does this affect my apps.
I have titanium back up installed so I can just back up all my apps and settings, but what user experience do I lose versus what is pre installed? How does Titanium back up work?
I know for cyanogenmod it says that there is no pre installed google related things. So I am assuming you will not be asked to set up your google account/wifi/language all that usual stuff google asks of you when you newly flash the memory, but what else do I lose?
Do some apps not work?
Does it mean I just simply have to reinstall everything?
Sorry I know this is a lot, but I am just questioning whether flashing a new rom is really worth it or is it intended more for older devices that do not receive the support of new firmware updates.
Newer ROM's and Kernels usually have more updated fixes and performance increases in comparison to stock. For example, franco.Kernel has a different throttling code, which helps out very nicely (goes to 1GHz in 1 step if the device is hot, and then down to 700MHz if it gets even hotter; no memory downclocking). Stock would downclock the CPU in increments of 100MHz, then spike it back to 1.7GHz, on top of also downing the clocks for GPU and memory. The difference in throttling can easily be seen in some high-end games like NFS:MW, which would slideshow on stock because of the aggressive throttling. franco.Kernel also has some fixes for the graphics and an updated WiFi driver.
But then again, what I just mentioned is mostly in relation to the kernel lol... I currently use rasbeanjelly because I like the dark theming (other ROM's have theming support though), but mostly because it's a stripped down AOSP build, that is very responsive I used to use CM10.1 nightlies before mostly because I liked being up-to-date (and nightlies come once a day with updates).
tyhe314 said:
So i looked up a few ROMS from the sticky'd post on this forum and I am trying to decide which one is for me. Some provide a better description than others but at the end of the day I cannot figure out what I am really gaining and what I am losing.
I have a basic understanding of ROMs (or firmware or whatever people want to call them), but what it comes down to is a new operating system. My biggest question is what will I be losing? Right now my Nexus 10 is rooted but running google's standard os.What if I were to install Cyanogenmod 10 or any of the other roms. How does this affect my apps.
I have titanium back up installed so I can just back up all my apps and settings, but what user experience do I lose versus what is pre installed? How does Titanium back up work?
I know for cyanogenmod it says that there is no pre installed google related things. So I am assuming you will not be asked to set up your google account/wifi/language all that usual stuff google asks of you when you newly flash the memory, but what else do I lose?
Do some apps not work?
Does it mean I just simply have to reinstall everything?
Sorry I know this is a lot, but I am just questioning whether flashing a new rom is really worth it or is it intended more for older devices that do not receive the support of new firmware updates.
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1. Like you said you have titanium back up installed, so as long as you backup all your user apps before flashing your apps, they will not be effected. (I have no clue how titanium backup works but it does)
2.Because of (I think copy rights) no ASOP will come with google apps ( Like google maps) but each ROM thread will direct you to a GAPPS download (which stands for Goggle APPS). You will just need to flash that ZIP after you flash your rom and BOOM you have all your google apps. You can still log into your google account at the startup, which has all your saved wifi's all your apps that you purchased on the PLAY store, all info in the calendar, etc. All in all you will lose virtual nothing after you restore your apps via titanium backup
3. Will you have to re install everything. Short answer yes, long answer no. After you restore via titanium backup, your apps will be just like they were before you flashed your new shiny ROM. But you will have to reorganize your homescreen, and redo your settings.
4. What will you gain? Well that all depends on what ROM you decided to go with it. That's what so great about ROMS and the Developers here, they provide you with so many different features. Like the guy above said, a new kernel can help with lag issues, or a new ROM can actually give you a tablet UI. Some of the benefits will be "under the hood" and you might not even notice them. There are many different features ( I recommond trying all the ROMS!)
5. I never had an User app not work because of a ROM
If you have anymore questions just ask!
(If I got anything wrong on here please correct me!)
For homescreens
sorryihaveaids said:
3. Will you have to re install everything. Short answer yes, long answer no. After you restore via titanium backup, your apps will be just like they were before you flashed your new shiny ROM. But you will have to reorganize your homescreen, and redo your settings.
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Or you could use Nova launcher and just restore your backed up homescreens and settings.
Paranoidandroid to fix the dumb center buttons and move it back to the sides
That alone is worth an aftermarket rom
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My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
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My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova.....
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Does your phone work well with Sammy official firmware ?
baltics said:
I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
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Thank you. But I dont have any reboots. My problem isn't about Rebooting. My problem is about insufficient RAM. My phone does't operate well when there are some apps running in the background.
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Does your phone work well with Sammy official firmware ?
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At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
Bogazicili90 said:
At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
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To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
FLooDW said:
To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
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Justin Thought said:
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
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whatsgood said:
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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JohnSmit268 said:
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
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Thank you so much all! I have greenify donation package and now on JellYbean 4.3 I have xposed module too. I greenified most of the apps and it is much more better but still launcher loads widgets and shortcuts after coming back to homepage. However I haven't experienced crash on other apps like in Lollipop ROMs. Actually at this moment I am so confused about which version to flash because from one side I want to use the latest stable Android build Lollipop on the other side I want a stable and fast phone. With Lollipop ROMs it seems not probable. Does Xposed module works without problem on Lollipop ROMs? If yes which xposed installer should I flash. I have tried BlissPop and Archidroid ROMs but not Resurruction Remix yet. I may want to give it a try. Also I want to try a clean Lollipop ROM without restoring the apps but just downloading them from Store. And just the essential ones not all the apps. I have approximately 140-150 Apps on my phone but just 6-7 of them are running all others are greenified. Does this still affect the Ram management? In my opinion the number of apps isn't important as long as there are enough space in internal SD card. Only the running apps are related to RAM management right? So it should not be a matter to have 25 or 250 apps in the phone. Only the running apps in background should affect the performance of RAM. Which ROM do you suggest and with which Kernel?
BlissPop,
ArchiDroid,
ResurrectionRemix,
Any KitKat ROM you offer,
Any Jellybean ROM you offer,
ArchiKernel,
Boeffla Kernel,
Which version of ROM and Kernel
I like the options in Blisspop to customise the ROM but I experience crash issues in almost every app after restoring 150-200 apps. Before restoring i didn't experienced issues but it didn't last long. I generally restore in 20 minutes after flashing a ROM.
Archidroid doesn't have customisation options in the ROM so generally it is my second option to give a try.
I flashed Resurrection Remix only one time 2 or 3 months ago and even though it was a full wipe install I couldn't start the phone with that version it was always in bootloop. So I never tried it again but I may give it a try if you suggest again.
Personally, I always prefered Beoffla Kernel (I don't find a spesific superiority) but for Lollipop it is end of devolopment and there is no stable one for Lollipop. I tried Archi Kernel for it but battery seems more consuming with it.
I believe now the problem isn't about a hardware 'cause the apps doesn't crash with Jellybean. Only they don't stay at memory after changing the apps. I mean multitasking isn't working properly and this should be because of the number of apps. What do you suggest for the apps I used. Is it heavy for S3. Nova Launcher, SwiftKey Keyboard, Jorte Calendar, Beautiful Widgets, Tesla Unread for Nova Launcher, Poweramp Music Player and system apps are running in the background and still phone says only 15 mb free ram. It is so weird how it is 15 mb. My Uncle has an Galaxy Ace 2 and it has about 570 Mb. it also has the same apps except for keyboard app but it has 100-150 mb of free RAM all the time and it is Android 4.1.1 version stock rooted.
How much RAM do the Android OS versions consume for the system?
I am so sorry for long replies. I want to solve this problems until I buy an LG G4 in a few months...
Waiting your comments... Thank you.
Mate in my opinion almost all of the latest lollipop rom builds are stable and perfect with greenify. I myself use Resurrection Remix rom and have no problem but if you don't like it you can try this too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-i9300-t3254215
In the other hand tomorrow the first official cm 13 build will be released and as I tried the unofficial ones they were pretty flawless. You can wait and use them but if you hate bugs use cm 12.1 latest builds. About your launcher I only recommend stock Google now launcher. It is goddamn fast. Don't use nova or anything else, even trebechut is buggy and laggy. And keep in mind : never ever hibernate Google services app and Google now app this can make you slow!! And about kernel: no need for any custom one use the ones that come with the rom. Trust me it will work fine. And I Strongly recommend open gapps they are amazing: www.opengapps.org and don't worry you don't need to tweak anything just keep greenified I always have 300-400 free ram?
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Link to xposed for lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
RAM problems with S3
Bogazicili90 said:
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
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Hi, this is Mohand,
If you're on S3, then apply this procedure to the letter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-archidroid-v2-4-6-power-hands-t2354859
Unless you have hardware problems with your phone (as physical accident) you wouldn't experience any other issue with this custom rom: ArchiDroid-3.1.5
Why use Nova anyway? Stick to default launcher.
And you can use Dark Material for a change with an amazing set of layers.
Hi guys. Just got confirmation that the 32/4 GB model I ordered has been dispatched so hoping to receive it in a week or two. Will need to get it up and running ASAP when it arrives, because my daughter is itching to get her hands on my current phone to replace her broken one, but as this is my first LeTV/LeEco phone, and my first Chinese grey import phone, I am a little confused about where to start to get it set up as I need. I am not sure if it is coming factory sealed with the Chinese stock firmware, or with a reseller installed ROM, but since the reseller said it is "preinstalled" I'm guessing factory stock. I have read through many of the threads on these XDA pages for the device, but as there are various ROMS and various stock SKUs it is a bit overwhelming. Hope you guys can give me your opinions.
How I am hoping to get the phone set up is as follows: at least basic Google functionality (Play Store, Calendar Sync, Contacts Sync), as little visible Chinese language as possible (preferably none), no active bloat (I definitely don't want to see the LeEco TV and video crap). Stability and decent battery life are more important to me than trying to get a more vanilla android experience, so I am thinking a stock ROM or stock-based ROM are better for me than trying Resurrection or CM (at least at first).
I am wondering if I should (a) stay with the stock Chinese firmware, try to install basic google apps and root/debloat it myself, or (b) flash the stock Indian firmware and root/debloat it myself, or (c) flash one of the debloated stock based ROMS. And if I go for option (c), I am not really sure whether to go for TeamSpain or Cuoco. What are their relative merits or demerits?
Hope some of you guys who already have this phone can give me your recommendations. Thanks!
P.S. My native language is English and I do not require any other languages (as long as I can install Google Japanese keyboard)
I've had mine for two weeks.
1. Download all the updates (latest 17s)
2. You can then choose between US or UK English.
3. Play store is pre-installed so download all the apps you prefer, like mail, browser, calender etc. and in App management go to Default apps at the bottom and then make your choice.
4. Remove the Le TV screen on the left of the home screen by long press it and click on the eye on the top and Le TV will dissappear next time.
5. To remove the Live button on the home screen you have to download a Launcher, I have the Nova launcher (Prime) and with the Prime version I can hide all the bloatware apps.
6. The Leeco bloatware is very resource friendly and
doesn't use upp any battery for what I can notice and with a launcher like nova there is no need to potentially ruin your phone already because Leeco will probably provide a couple more updates.
Any questions feel free to ask
@Barnis78 has already mentioned the most important things.
i for one use it with the Standard Rom Chinese 17s and Google Stock Launcher. And i Love it.
I don't remove Bloatware cause as Barnis mentioned it's no Problem at all, and you've got the Advantage that you get all the ota updates..
Thanks guys, that's really good stuff to know. I have Nova Prime too, so if the bloat is not impacting on device resources I may just do as you guys and go stock.
@Barnis78 do contacts sync properly with Google?
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@Barnis78 do contacts sync properly with Google?
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It did not with 16s, it turned out that the Google account settings didn't have the Contact option so I downloaded the Google contact sync 6.0.1 apk and restarted the phone and it worked. You will have 17s version
when the phone is updated so check when the Google account is setup if you have Contacts sync in the settings.
One more thing, if your calls disconnects after 2-3 minutes, go to the Dual Sim & mobile network settings and turn of VoLTE HD calls.
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It did not with 16s, it turned out that the Google account settings didn't have the Contact option so I downloaded the Google contact sync 6.0.1 apk and restarted the phone and it worked. You will have 17s version
when the phone is updated so check when the Google account is setup if you have Contacts sync in the settings.
One more thing, if your calls disconnects after 2-3 minutes, go to the Dual Sim & mobile network settings and turn of VoLTE HD calls.
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Calls? 2-3 minute... calls? What are they?
kanagawaben said:
Calls? 2-3 minute... calls? What are they?
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Phone calls, they did disconnected after 2-3 minutes when talking to people. I didn't know what the reason was at first but the reason was the 'Volte HD call' setting. You have to phone a person who also have the same setting, the carrier also has to support it of course.
Barnis78 said:
Phone calls, they did disconnected after 2-3 minutes when talking to people. I didn't know what the reason was at first but the reason was the 'Volte HD call' setting. You have to phone a person who also have the same setting, the carrier also has to support it of course.
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Sorry mate, I was just joking - you know, phone calls, nobody makes phone calls anymore.
Actually, I do hardly make or receive any calls nowadays. But your info is good to know anyway. Thanks.
I'm thinking it might be better to flash the latest official Indian firmware, rather than the Chinese. I gather the Indian one has Google play services already built-in. Is it a simple process to flash that one? And is there any disadvantage to using the Indian firmware over the Chinese?
I'm also interested in the same, wether Chinese or Indian is the better deal regarding Stock firmware?
Restfettn said:
I'm also interested in the same, wether Chinese or Indian is the better deal regarding Stock firmware?
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I'm running stock and the latest Chinese 19s, there isn't a single issue up until now. I had to recalibrate the fingerprint though. The battery life is very good, I charge once every 24 hours, I get like 6 hour more compared to the 17s version.
Barnis78 said:
I'm running stock and the latest Chinese 19s, there isn't a single issue up until now. I had to recalibrate the fingerprint though. The battery life is very good, I charge once every 24 hours, I get like 6 hour more compared to the 17s version.
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How do you update to the 19s? Do you have to do it via TWRP, or you can simply change the rom file to update.zip and then update from the file manager? Thanks
Barnis78 said:
I'm running stock and the latest Chinese 19s, there isn't a single issue up until now. I had to recalibrate the fingerprint though. The battery life is very good, I charge once every 24 hours, I get like 6 hour more compared to the 17s version.
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Was using Cuoco92 latest 17S based, but flashed stock 19S last night. It's a lot more effort to get it set up - get google stuff installed and working properly, root, debloat etc. But once it is done it seems to be working well. Latest xposed v86 works, fingerprint sensor works well, they fixed the theme selector bug (though I use Google Now launcher, so that isn't really relevant to me). Not sure about battery yet, but 17S was ok so if it is the same I'll be happy.
Amowagou said:
How do you update to the 19s? Do you have to do it via TWRP, or you can simply change the rom file to update.zip and then update from the file manager? Thanks
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I'm running original, no root so with this update you download and place the file in the root directory in the internal memory, (no subfolders) I downloaded direct to my phone so I had to cut the file from Download directory and place it direct in the internal memory, the phone won't find the file otherwise. Then you have to rename the file to update.zip. Then go to System Update in settings and do a Local update, the phone will find the file automatically. Just leave the phone when it's updating, it will take several minutes.
I am also running 17s stock chinese firmware. I have Nova launcher and everything seems to be working fine. my carrier does not support VoLte so I have it disabled.
I am holding off on the 19s until its deemed stable by Leeco and add it to their OTA update. I dont want to beta test it
19S, with root and xposed, gravity box, and the leaked Pixel launcher is very stable and useable. Very pleased with it.
Started having a lot of problems with play store yesterday, both on Chinese 19S and 17S-based Cuoco92. In the end I decided it was too much hassle and just installed the Indian 16S. It gets lower Antutu scores and you have no control over the Dolby Atmos settings (as far as I can find) but otherwise it's stable and smooth and has a lot less bloat than the Chinese firmware. Overall, it's probably a better option I reckon.
kanagawaben said:
I'm thinking it might be better to flash the latest official Indian firmware, rather than the Chinese. I gather the Indian one has Google play services already built-in. Is it a simple process to flash that one? And is there any disadvantage to using the Indian firmware over the Chinese?
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Battery drain issue at X2_X820-OS-OP-FGXOSOP5801607292S firmware Indian firmware.
For some reason my phone pretty much discharges 30% itself in about 12 hours while idle. WiFi is off, GPS is off, Bluetooth is off, Sync is off, all opened programs are closed. On LE_X2_X820-CN-FN-FEXCNFN5801607221S-5.8.016S or 17 firmware battery is good
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Hi guys. Just got confirmation that the 32/4 GB model I ordered has been dispatched so hoping to receive it in a week or two. Will need to get it up and running ASAP when it arrives, because my daughter is itching to get her hands on my current phone to replace her broken one, but as this is my first LeTV/LeEco phone, and my first Chinese grey import phone, I am a little confused about where to start to get it set up as I need. I am not sure if it is coming factory sealed with the Chinese stock firmware, or with a reseller installed ROM, but since the reseller said it is "preinstalled" I'm guessing factory stock. I have read through many of the threads on these XDA pages for the device, but as there are various ROMS and various stock SKUs it is a bit overwhelming. Hope you guys can give me your opinions.
How I am hoping to get the phone set up is as follows: at least basic Google functionality (Play Store, Calendar Sync, Contacts Sync), as little visible Chinese language as possible (preferably none), no active bloat (I definitely don't want to see the LeEco TV and video crap). Stability and decent battery life are more important to me than trying to get a more vanilla android experience, so I am thinking a stock ROM or stock-based ROM are better for me than trying Resurrection or CM (at least at first).
I am wondering if I should (a) stay with the stock Chinese firmware, try to install basic google apps and root/debloat it myself, or (b) flash the stock Indian firmware and root/debloat it myself, or (c) flash one of the debloated stock based ROMS. And if I go for option (c), I am not really sure whether to go for TeamSpain or Cuoco. What are their relative merits or demerits?
Hope some of you guys who already have this phone can give me your recommendations. Thanks!
P.S. My native language is English and I do not require any other languages (as long as I can install Google Japanese keyboard)
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Hi,
I can confirm that the Phone as delivered is free from bloatware for the most part (if doesn't sit around in the background) , The Chinese EUI factory rom 5.8.015s (mine has had zero problems) Is incredible fast My first run Anatutu was 145,725 and the EUI system menu style while not AOSP like it more than effective. Just install Google now and you are good to go.
I had a minor problem with finger prints but once I calibrated the sensor and used a better finger, Its funny how over time certain fingers are worn, lol.
I was going to root mine and Rom it but once I got my Max 2 I have been too busy snapping photos, videos, making calls to even bother !
I am looking forward to maybe android 7 from LeEco, which I'm sure they are working on, Again taking nothing away from the developer guys here.
If you want to be your daily driver I would leave it alone for now unless you want to.
cheers
Hi everyone,
It's a brand new phone (arrived yesterday) and I'm upset immensely.
Physical capacitive navigation buttons sometimes miss up to 5 touches in a row. You click them and nothing happens.
I have a suspicion that it's due to LineageOS that I installed right after buying the phone but I've got a feeling that a stock firmware had the same issue.
This phone has a thick protection film (factory installed) but the main screen receives all the touches without any problems - only the capacitive buttons work poorly.
Should I install the factory firmware back? I don't want to remove the protection film because it's very sturdy and nice.
Has anyone experienced this issue?
Common sense would say remove the film and try without before concluding they are faulty.
The factory installed screen protector is real flexible, they pull up easy and go back on easy. You could try lifting it at the bottom and then trying the buttons to see if it makes any difference. If you do it slow you can bow the screen protector to a 90 degree angle without unseating the top half.
I've figured out it's actually a lag in LineageOS. The ROM wants me to slow down - IOW when I let the OS finish drawing, all the touches are registered just fine.
This is absolutely confusing since my Nexus 5 with a two times slower CPU and four times slower GPU never missed a single press, while LineageOS misses way too many presses.
I wonder if this issue affects the stock ROM as well and other ROMs for that matter.
The best way to reproduce this issue is to have several apps running then pressing these buttons in a quick succession:
"Recent Apps" -> "Home"
"Recent Apps" -> "Home"
"Recent Apps" -> "Home"
"Recent Apps" -> "Home"
"Recent Apps" : totally ignored
Then even when I have the settings app running sometimes the "Back" button doesn't work at all: open the settings app, then quickly press "Security" and the "Back" button immediately after it will not register (100% reproducible). If you press "Security" then pause for a second, then the Back button works.
IOW it's lags and lags only. Now I wonder if it's a LineageOS bug or something is wrong with my device.
ApTeM said:
I've figured out it's actually a lag in LineageOS. The ROM wants me to slow down - IOW when I let the OS finish drawing, all the touches are registered just fine.
This is absolutely confusing since my Nexus 5 with a two times slower CPU and four times slower GPU never missed a single press, while LineageOS misses way too many presses.
I wonder if this issue affects the stock ROM as well and other ROMs for that matter.
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Not had that issue on my x829 on any rom I have used. Always instant including on Los.
I'm going to record a video and show it to you. Hold on.
I suggest you install stock rom and try that and without the film. May have even been a bad flash?
What's the meaning of "bad" flash? I wiped everything except user data, I cleaned installed LineageOS 20170409 with zero mods or extra zips aside from gapps. It's as clean as possible.
Here's the video:
No need for video as we believe you lol. Just mean it did not install correctly etc. If you never even tried the phone in stock form you have no idea if it was there from the start etc.
I found Los had too many bugs for me and it got hot so never tried again. My phone also did not come with any screen protector just the film it has on from new.
It could be an hardware fault and installing a stock rom should tell you.
I'm afraid of installing stock for a couple of reasons:
1) I've got a X829 hw which doesn't have an official ROM available anywhere on the internet and I didn't know I should have dumped it prior to flashing LOS.
2) I've heard stories that TWRP may brick your device if you update from a custom ROM to a stock ROM. I cannot find a manual how to get to stock after flashing a custom ROM.
3) Since there's no X829 ROM available, I'm not sure which one I should install - Indian or Chinese, and if they are 100% compatible with my hardware.
waj1234 said:
No need for video as we believe you lol. Just mean it did not install correctly etc. If you never even tried the phone in stock form you have no idea if it was there from the start etc.
I found Los had too many bugs for me and it got hot so never tried again. My phone also did not come with any screen protector just the film it has on from new.
It could be an hardware fault and installing a stock rom should tell you.
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I'm pretty sure WIPE actually wipes everything (and I did wipe everything) so there's no way to mis-flash LOS.
All roms are compatible on x829 and can confirm as tried them all. Currently on 23s Chinese. You can install from twrp and no need to rename it. Need to boot straight back to twrp after installing stock or stock recovery gets installed which has happened to me twice but easy to re install twrp.
No issue going from stock to custom and back as I have done it many times until I settled on stock Chinese as its got least bugs of em all.
It's not an isolated issue: people are having it too: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71452126&postcount=83
I've just flashed boot.img from lineage-13.0-20170225 and the system feels a lot snappier than before, however some touches are still not registered. It's all kinda unpleasant because when I was buying this phone I was hoping that custom ROMs are as good as the original Nexus 5 firmware, but it's clearly not the case. There are very rough edges all around.
Custom roms on these will never be as good as on a nexus as nexus official roms get fixes quickly but you don't from Le eco.
ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.7.4-20170329-x2.zip is free from this issue but I don't like this ROM for other reasons (built in ... Russia; no OTA updates; has tons of dubious features, like root access; it's old - security update from January 1st, 2017; various things are missing as if someone hacked it from another ROM and forget to add the necessary strings). Damn, I really don't want to use the Chinese ROM and it seems like with LeEco Le Max2 it's either the Chinese ROM or have bugs and lags.
Edit: please tell me how exactly should I flash the stock ROM back?
Wipe everything as usual and then install the zip with TWRP? That's it? No hidden pitfalls or anything? I don't want to brick my device.
ApTeM said:
ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.7.4-20170329-x2.zip is free from this issue but I don't like this ROM for other reasons (built in ... Russia; no OTA updates; has tons of dubious features, like root access; it's old - security update from January 1st, 2017; various things are missing as if someone hacked it from another ROM and forget to add the necessary strings). Damn, I really don't want to use the Chinese ROM and it seems like with LeEco Le Max2 it's either the Chinese ROM or have bugs and lags.
Edit: please tell me how exactly should I flash the stock ROM back?
Wipe everything as usual and then install the zip with TWRP? That's it? No hidden pitfalls or anything? I don't want to brick my device.
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Yes install just like you said above. Just need to either download play store from Le store or download apk online like I did. I just google latest. Don't try and flash gapps as it don't work.
I have the same touch problem.
niscrulez said:
I have the same touch problem.
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Use boot.img from LineageOS 20170225 or migrate to ResurrectionRemix.
i use the custom 16s that was instaled from factory and i feel the same problem.
Hi y'all,
Should be receiving my X829 from Banggood tomorrow, and trying to figure out what to do re: firmware. I'm a bit wary of the custom roms since it seems like each rom has its share of serious issues. I was going to go with small EUI, but apparently it now has bootloop problems?
Anyway, in the absence of a reliable custom rom, all I really want to do is a debloat of any spyware (including here apps that upload "market research data"). Are there any debloating guides floating around?
I've read that EUI has fine grained control of app permissions. Does this include being able to restrict app internet access, and does this control extend to the LeEco apps and other bloatware installed on the phone by default?
I have not seen a good debloat guide but I'm sure your x829 is going to come with some sort of vendor ROM already ( US? ) .
I just wanted to comment on the stability of all the LOS 13, AOKP, and RR builds ( MM ), I would say are all stable and ready for every day use. Some of the N builds are excellent and just waiting for LeEco to release N . :good:
Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
I have not seen a good debloat guide but I'm sure your x829 is going to come with some sort of vendor ROM already ( US? ) .
I just wanted to comment on the stability of all the LOS 13, AOKP, and RR builds ( MM ), I would say are all stable and ready for every day use. Some of the N builds are excellent and just waiting for LeEco to release N . :good:
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My impression was that even if they are stable, they are missing some substantial functionality? VoLTE seems to be a problem for most roms (though it's fixed in some), none of the Nougat roms seem to have the cameras working (a significant issue that would prevent me from considering such roms functional, let alone excellent), and (all?) of the non-EUI based roms require the use of a certain camera app to get camera functionality?
I'd very much like to be informed I'm wrong haha!
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My impression was that even if they are stable, they are missing some substantial functionality? VoLTE seems to be a problem for most roms (though it's fixed in some), none of the Nougat roms seem to have the cameras working (a significant issue that would prevent me from considering such roms functional, let alone excellent), and (all?) of the non-EUI based roms require the use of a certain camera app to get camera functionality?
I'd very much like to be informed I'm wrong haha!
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There is a VoLTE patch floating around, my carrier doesn't support it so I haven't used it.... The camera issues have been solved in most MM builds, but not N builds. The FooteJ camera app work around was just a temp way around the problem that persisted, but now I use it in place of stock because I liked it so much
My suggestion is to try them. Super easy to unlock/root/add custom recovery, Especially if your looking for a smooth clean OS.
EUI is packed with bloat and ad on , I don't like it.
There are 6 apps on chinese 23s rom. I don't use them and they don't cause any issues. They are in my app draw as I use nova launcher so don't see them.
I tried most of custom roms but find stock more stable and it works OK apart from Gmail notification but I use BlueMail from playstore which works perfect. No real need to de bloat to be honest.
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There are 6 apps on chinese 23s rom. I don't use them and they don't cause any issues. They are in my app draw as I use nova launcher so don't see them.
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So I got my Banggood X829. As far as I can tell, there are no chinese apps, and only two leeco apps: LIVE and My LeEco. All the GApps are there as the default. Everything worked out of the box, so I've just decided to restrict the permissions of the LeEco apps, and installed Nova.
The launcher was bad (no app drawer!, ughh), but the other aspects of EUI are pretty nice. In particular, the the app switching button on default Android is an incredible waste of space that's hard to navigate through. The way it's implemented in EUI is both more user friendly, and putting media and settings shortcuts there is a more efficient use of space than stock.
I imagine there'll be no OTA updates, so I think I'll just stick with stock EUI until someone gets a Nougat ROM with the camera working.
Won't be any updates on that vendor rom if same as mine from Banggood. The updater app was removed on mine. Got rid of it for a newer stock rom immediately.