Hi everyone, I'm running fully stock latest nougat software, and I seem to have an issue with the phones ram management, using the dev check app I see that even when there are no apps running I only get around 1500 megabytes of ram available out of 3780, which seems inappropriate, since this phone is running pure Android. Would be nice to know if anyone else is having the same issue, and if so, are there any suggestions on how to solve it
Same, my RAM is filled up to 2.7-3.2 GB usually, with not too many apps installed. But I guess it just caches a lot and frees those caches once you actually need the ram
HelloMoto777 said:
Hi everyone, I'm running fully stock latest nougat software, and I seem to have an issue with the phones ram management, using the dev check app I see that even when there are no apps running I only get around 1500 megabytes of ram available out of 3780, which seems inappropriate, since this phone is running pure Android. Would be nice to know if anyone else is having the same issue, and if so, are there any suggestions on how to solve it
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I have motor z with unlocked bootloader, stock rom 7.0, added some app , now used ram indicated in settings are 1.8 from 3.7 . It's litlle high , but the reffernce ia for last 3 hours. Not in real time.
This is fairly normal with Android, and linux in general. MOst of your RAM usage is coming from caching.
To get a better feel for this, you would want to go to developers options > running services.
If we take mine for example:
Settings > RAM says 2.3GB in a 3 hour period.
If I look in that developer option:
1.5GB is dedicated to the System
865MB for APPS
Which gives me 1.3GB Free
If I move over to the Cached portion I see that 872MB is being used for cached processes.
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If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
uf21 said:
If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
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Jesus. There's a huge panic now because the variant has 2 gigs of ram...
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
You actually have more free, but the android has a lot of it saved for caching, etc. For example, Facebook takes 40 mb, but when I open it only like 5 or 10 mb of the ram shown as "available" is taken away because parts of it are actually open already.
But yes, if you root it, and a developer adjusts the Minfree to a large amount you will have more free but your phone will probably be slower.
Folks need to keep in mind, that keeping RAM free as you would with a Windows based OS, is NOT ideal in Android. Android uses RAM completely differently and it is perfectly okay for your phone to make use of RAM, even for apps you are not currently using.
There's a fair amount of documentation out there about this - do some Google-fu to deep dive further.
Actually I ask because when I was trying to send a picture in whatsapp it kept sayin "try again" but when I closed all tasks in multitask the picture did send. So I'm guessing it is a ram problem.
Also take it easy on Mr. This is my first android phone, I've been using iphone since the 3g and don't know nothing about android..... yet
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You don't really want to much free ram. If there is to much free ram it means apps are not going in to cache witch will mean really slow app loading times. 200-300mb free is ample for new apps to run, if the OS needs more then its auto memory management will come in to play to free up more if needed, android is a very smart peace of kit
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if anyone were to choose pre-caching order for faster load times ( usually just by seconds than non-pre-cached) to no random force closes because there is more free memory, they would chose more free memory.
but since the experts have already said android memory doesn't work the same way like windows does, then the best would be a balance between cache and free memory. right? right. that's where official updates and dev fixes come in.
Hi pls is their anyone who could fix the high ram usage a mod or something?
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What do you exactly think ram is, or "high ram usage"?
What are you expecting to be fixed?
This phone has plenty of ram, stop looking at the numbers and thinking your too high, don't listen to anyone that tells you that you need to kill tasks to make the phone better, they are all wrong!
Android works on a linux kernel, its not like windows and does not slow down (noticeably) when you multi-task, it manages its ram usage, it caches processes to save you time and battery next time. When it's ram is truly full (which I doubt yours ever is) it kills it's own apps.
So in summary unless android is closing all your apps when your trying to use them, stop worrying about ram!
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Please everyone stop saying that Windows does not use the RAM for Cache.
Just because it doesn't show the values in Task Manager doesn't mean it isn't doing so. The Resource Monitor tells otherwise.
port76, if you're rooted you can throw out all the apps that you do not use (e.g. the whole Samsung-Cloud stuff, Samsung Accounts, AllShare, ...) which will give you several MB more of RAM available for caching.
For the rest, refer to this: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
ivy thrown all bloatware still high ram it was perfect on my s2 in fact my s2 has more ram sometimes my s3 lags .. thanks anyway guys for feedback :thumbup:
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No mention of what firmware you are using . Try updating top latest firmware .
jje
ram usage is fine on the S3, theres no fix needed.
unused ram = useless ram
if ur S3 lags, it must be something else
Jesus F****** christ!
I would rather have a fix for the redrawing of my launcher...
When i'm browsing and go back to the launcher it redraws/restarts...
Because other launchers beside touchwiz are not locked in the memory...
thread closed. there are plenty of discussions on ram usage. please use the search function
What can i do to solve that problem?
Thanks
What do you mean with that? What exactly happens when you do what? There is no description of what exactly happens
I guess it's due to low memory killer.
when i start the aplication and then press home to leave it on, after 2-3 minutes when i enter the aplication again to continue, the phone it loads from the begining like i started again
I would say this is normal, Android kicks Apps that you don`t use for some time automatically out of memory, so that you always have enough Ram left to use your current active application. Especially when you open Apps that need a lot of Ram. Android automatically will kick out Apps that are in the background except if they have an icon in the notification centre (That`s why Apps that are supposed to run in the background all have an icon in the notification area). If you want to keep Apps in memory check out the Xposed framework
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130044
I need root for this,right ?
Of course you do. You should also look at custom roms, as they're much more optimized, and that includes also more free ram. Don't expect awesome performance on pure stock rom .
So this problem os not only for my phonw ...?
Android is designed that way to take up almost all Ram available on the device because unused Ram is wasted Ram and when you are running out of memory Android begins to kick out applications that are in the background. That will happen with every Android phone. Maybe in the future when we reach 4 gb of Ram multitasking will have a Windows like feeling where you can leave a application in the background for hours and come back to it and use it as you left it.
And like JustArchi said, yes you need Root for the Xposed framework to work because it changes some stuff in some system files.
On my old wildfire s i never happenes this ... and ny free ram is around 100 mb.is ok?or is a problem with my phone?sorry for noob questios ...
Your old wildfire S was based on Android 2.x I suppose, also with lower resolution, performance etc.
It's like comparing windows 95 to windows 7, windows 95 uses less, guess why.
Actually I have about 300 free ram + zram, so it's about 500 I'd say. And yes I have a lot of apps in the background, including one game .
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On my old wildfire s i never happenes this ... and ny free ram is around 100 mb.is ok?or is a problem with my phone?sorry for noob questios ...
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100 mb free RAM is normal. With Android you don't need to worry about RAM ever! The Ram management on Android is very good and it knows exactly when you need more free Ram so it will then kick out applications that are currently in the background.
I killed all apps,freed ram and then i open facebook.then i ptess home button and after 2minutes i go back in fb and ... its loading drom beggining.itsvreally annoying.without root can i do something ...?
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I killed all apps,freed ram and then i open facebook.then i ptess home button and after 2minutes i go back in fb and ... its loading drom beggining.itsvreally annoying.without root can i do something ...?
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Nope without Root at least to my knowledge you can't do anything and with Root Xposed Framework is the only way I know of to keep certain Apps in memory.
On the other hand I can't see any disadvantage of rooting a phone, you can always get back to pure stock.
Sorry for offtopic but look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFBOnvOR4MA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Multitasking on the stock TW based rom sucks
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Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
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First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
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Yes, i know about that but i'm crazy because when my phone is slower i see the ram and it has apparently 500mb used from 680mb total... And i click on Clean, it closes like 20 apps and clean 100~mb aprox. of ram, and the phone becomes faster... That is my question, i know about linux... in galaxy s duos have an option to kill until number of processes you would... But didnt work i think because, i put max to 3 processes but even when i close the apps with back button, like facebook, instagram and another without home button, it stills on memory, taking the phone slower
But thanks for trying help me :victory:
Install this app Greenify search in play store
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I have it but dont know how to use? I need to select one by one the apps that i want?? :/
It's need root and you need to select the desired app, when your screen turned off for some minutes then greenify force stop your selected app.
If you don't understand try to search in YouTube and xda
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Android os taking almost 1 gb of RAM
Is that normal !?
And if not is there a solution?
Seems alright
Mines a little better. about 600MB for OS and and 100MB for System.
I find the phone CAN be very sluggish as well. I think it has to do with the memory as well. Sometimes I start an app (ie. Google voice or ES file manager) and it pops up instantly. Sometimes it pops up but the screen is blank and it literally sits for maybe 5 seconds before anything happens. The camera can be worse. Sometimes even opening the app drawer gives a lag. Android Auto is just always slow. I've found that if I use an app killer and clear out some memory the phone becomes more responsive. Yes, the OS should automatically do this, but it doesnt seem to do a very good job. If I'm starting an app thats not in memory, it should make no difference whether the memory is empty or the OS needs to kill something to make room. Maybe the process of clearing out space in memory has some lag.
My next phone will definately need to have more than 2GB ram. I would switch phones in a heartbeat but I like the smaller form factor and nearly all other phones in the world are bigger.
Regarding facebook, I did this with my older phone because of how bad FB is, there is a "facebook lite" app you can get which is designed for lesser phones. It runs much better but it is more limited.
I'm waiting for a usable nougat rom to try. hopefully that will help
Remove Facebook. Remove Messenger.
Enjoy 150-600MB free RAM throughout your experience.
After nougat I am actually usually hovering around 300-500MB of free RAM at any given time of my day.
Get rid of these two disgusting apps and your phone will be so much better.
I also use FB, but only through the actual Chrome browser, and not the app.
I use 4 messengers - Viber, Skype, Telegram and Hangouts. Their ram and battery usage altogether is LESS Than just the facebook bloatware.
I've attached some screens.
try my
i manage to free up to 1gb free ram with few tweaks and mods to framework on my cooked rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/rom-stock-z5c32-3-0-376r2dau-t3570248
as for fb
use this one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-facebook-chat-enabler-t2934179
Give this a try:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.lite&hl=en
doesnt seem to have any bloat.
You prob have to sideload it
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Mines a little better. about 600MB for OS and and 100MB for System.
*** Yes, the OS should automatically do this, but it doesnt seem to do a very good job. If I'm starting an app thats not in memory, it should make no difference whether the memory is empty or the OS needs to kill something to make room. Maybe the process of clearing out space in memory has some lag.
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I'm waiting for a usable nougat rom to try. hopefully that will help
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You can try to flash AndroPlus kernel + Kernel Adiutor app. I am currently on that build and it's working flawlessly - make sure you tweak the CPU and IO governors and the LMK (minfrees) to your liking. See what works best for you. Note that light LMK settings will make your phone fast after a reboot but slow as hell as time goes by. I have found that Moderate works best (implied anyway) for a good balance between multitasking and free memory
EDIT: This is for stock Nougat.