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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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borchgrevink said:
But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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borchgrevink said:
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
silentbob59 said:
My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
Hello,
I was told this is the place to come for everything related Galaxy S III from several people. Please excuse me if this is the wrong place or section.
I'm completely new to the Galaxy 3 and Android in general.
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday (amazon $149 no tax, free 2 day shipping) :victory:
As you can imagine coming form the Pre, my mind is blown. It's a bit overwhelming, I'm a pretty tech-savvy dude (pre was hacked to its limits) so I down to tinker. But before I even get started with that I have some basic questions.
1. Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
1a Even better would be able to use a simple pin for screen unlock but still have the SD/Internal encrypted with a long password. Is that possible?
2. When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
3. Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
4. What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
5. What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
6. Why is there "com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo.D..." under Device administrator? Do I need that? Is that a security hole/risk?
Again, sorry for so many questions, just trying to wrap my head around all of this. If there is a better place to be asking question please let me know.
Look forward to being part of the community! :highfive:
BR
1) not by default, maybe an app could aid there, not sure, but on stock "out of the box" the answer is "no"
1a) nope, if you want to use encryption, it's password all the way
2) Settings -> Application Manager -> "Running" tab
3) Kind of. It also warns you when you try to kill off a system app, but you can't really damage anything by doing that. I tend to kill just everything I don't want at the moment (which is usually everything but the widgets and app I am intentionally running) and all is well.
Stuff that REALLY needs to run, restarts automatically anyways (and some that don't have to, do as well....)
4) Settings -> Application Manager -> All -> Tap on app -> "Disable"
5) You will find an uncountable number of ROMs / Firmwares here. Stock as well as custom. What the best one is, is personal preference.
6) might be something added by the carrier. try to disable it, see what happens
7) ( ) .... ( ) whoops, no 7 xD
Hope that helped a bit
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday
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You most certainly are in the wrong forum. This one is for the international S3 which doesn't feature LTE. There's a Sprint forum right above/below this one =)
Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
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That would make password unlock more or less redundant. Anyone could still access the phone.
When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
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You're correct. Well, partially. It's still "alive" in terms of being in the memory. But it doesn't use CPU anymore which is all that counts.
However you don't want to kill it. Cached processes take up no space (the RAM is emptyed whenever the capacity is needed), no resources and allow you to multi-task right back to where you left off.
Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
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You don't want to stop anything. Refer to the prior question for this. Well... you may want to kick off some bloatware but to get rid of thm the phone needs to be rooted. There are threads listing which apps you can safely remove.
What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
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As said, you need to be rooted. Use TItanium Backup to freeze the bloatware. It's still physically "there" on the disk (doesn't take up much space) and you can defrost it whenever needed but as long as it's frozen it cannot be started.
What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
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App updates are always delivered through their corresponding market. Usually the Google Play Store, but as for Samsung apps they have their own update mechanism.
Firmware and ROM are updated either OTA or through Kies on the computer. They can also be manually flashed through Odin.
"com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo
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Sounds like some carrier bloatware and from the name of it is supposed to open some file extension called '.spr' for the phone.
Thank you for the info! Mods could you please move to correct forum?
Since I've ever a lot (read: hundreds....) of apps installed on my phones, I've ever used a "boot receiver editor" like "ES System Monitor" or "Manage Android Autostart" to limit unuseful apps autostart and have it a faster and with a better battery life phone...
These apps obviously need root, BUT I've seen that on Moto Z they simply... don't work!
ES System Monitor's "Optimizer" function seems to work but when you exit and re-enter all changes are lost...
Manage Android Autostart instead return an error like "fail... are you sure to have root access?" when, obviously, root is granted (and SuperSU related "toast" has just benn showed... ).
This is not directly related to MM since on another phone with AOSP MM 6.01 installed all works fine...
Any idea on what could produce this behaviour? It seems something trying to "protect" /system from modifies... (BUT with ES File Manager I don't have any problem to modify it...)
es file manager and other stuff are not what they used to be
sold to third party who forced crapware
i would stay away from them
reiteravi said:
es file manager and other stuff are not what they used to be
sold to third party who forced crapware
i would stay away from them
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Uh...?! Never had issues with them...?!
Anyway in a very similar ROM they works and on Moto Z... not!
We have to understand the reason... @erfanoabdi, any idea?
enetec said:
Uh...?! Never had issues with them...?!
Anyway in a very similar ROM they works and on Moto Z... not!
We have to understand the reason... @erfanoabdi, any idea?
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i don't know why
but i'm ok with greenify
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erfanoabdi said:
i don't know why
but i'm ok with greenify
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Yes, Greenify does the "main" work, BUT there are apps that try to reactivate at every occasion and produce a lot of (unuseful) wakelocks... when you have a lot of apps, reduce the active receivers is very important too...
And only a *good* knowledge of our device will allow us to obtain best results...
Let's try again... @janjan?
Hi there, I was wondering how to change the stock file manager. I don't mean just setting a different manager as default. Because even then, android uses the stock file manager for use within other apps (like wallpaper apps) for uploading files.
So how do I replace the file manager completely? I have the same question for the default gallery app too. It doesn't look the way I want and it's driving me nuts. I didn't simply uninstall the system apps because I fear it might break something.
The same question
Try disabling the stock one if it really bugs you.
Uploads can be a bit witchy...
blackhawk said:
Try disabling the stock one if it really bugs you.
Uploads can be a bit witchy...
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İ tried but some app's needed it. So İ have to make default another app.
asliaral said:
İ tried but some app's needed it. So İ have to make default another app.
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You may be stuck with it. I've noticed similar issues on my 10+ running on Pie.
Pretty much ignored the slight inconvenience as I reckon it be more trouble than it's worth to fix.
May play will it a bit and try to optimize if I get really bored... more likely that I'll light up another cigar and chill though
You could try clearing the app data on the ones that default to the stock file Manager.
May have to go deeper into the system apks that manage file interlinks.
Clear system cache.
I can do all uploads but it's far from ideal... requiring 2 retries sometimes to get the right menu index. Sometimes it takes 2 light up attempts to get the cigar burning proper too
I should ignore it too cause I do not have enough technical knowledge
asliaral said:
I should ignore it too cause I do not have enough technical knowledge
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Learn by doing. If it really bugs you play with it.
Pretty hard to crash a stock Android.
blackhawk said:
Learn by doing. If it really bugs you play with it.
Pretty hard to crash a stock Android.
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İ am on Bliss rom
asliaral said:
İ am on Bliss rom
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My stock 10+ does similar bs. You have more options than me if you're rooted. The trick is learning them; it can be a steep, time consuming learning curve.
The biggest reason I haven't rooted as well as voiding the extended warranty I have.
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My stock 10+ does similar bs. You have more options than me if you're rooted. The trick is learning them; it can be a steep, time consuming learning curve.
The biggest reason I haven't rooted as well as voiding the extended warranty I have.
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Yes me have waited for warranty and rooted after it.
İ love learning but dont have enough English so it is very difficult for me.
I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
It should not be the case.
Backup data, factory reset the phone, restore data without restoring apps and settings and then check. It's time consuming but is a great way to start with a brand new phone.
Is this issue only on chrome? Or in other apps too?
Virgo_Guy said:
It should not be the case.
Backup data, factory reset the phone, restore data without restoring apps and settings and then check. It's time consuming but is a great way to start with a brand new phone.
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Yeah, don't use SmartSwitch. Do a clean load from scratch. If you don't screw it up with upgrades/updates or buggy apps a good load can last years on an Android and remain fast/stable with minimal maintenance.
ApkExport can be used to create installable copies of your current apps so no Playstore is needed. Saves time and sanity.
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Yeah, don't use SmartSwitch. Do a clean load from scratch. If you don't screw it up with upgrades/updates or buggy apps a good load can last years on an Android and remain fast/stable with minimal maintenance.
ApkExport can be used to create installable copies of your current apps so no Playstore is needed. Saves time and sanity.
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What is the best app(not paid) for copying everything from phone to phone?
theboz1419 said:
I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
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have you tried other browsers? (try firefox or kiwi) or diferent websites? For example, i tried Hugoboss website and they have alot of issues using it.
xwonic said:
What is the best app(not paid) for copying everything from phone to phone?
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I hand load everything. I use the SD card as a data drive; everything I need for a full reload is on it, then regularly and redundantly backed it up.
Current load on this N10+ will be 3 yo in June. Still runs like a bat out of hell.
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I hand load everything.
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This.
xwonic said:
What is the best app(not paid) for copying everything from phone to phone?
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adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
theboz1419 said:
I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
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Same here on Telegram app, on the left corner top, back button.
Mr.5g said:
Same here on Telegram app, on the left corner top, back button.
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I have this one too... (but not in Chrome app).
And i have installed Telegram after I had my 23U
It seems it's really the app...
Canard caché said:
I have this one too... (but not in Chrome app).
And i have installed Telegram after I had my 23U
It seems it's really the app...
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I guess that too
EtherealRemnant said:
adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
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Could copying everything manually what's inside the folders, cause problems in terms of cache and so on? Do these folders contain cache?
EtherealRemnant said:
adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
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Where do I get the ADB pull/SD card??
Darbar1701 said:
Where do I get the ADB pull/SD card??
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Not really sure what you mean but this video may be good explanation how to do
mozdem said:
Could copying everything manually what's inside the folders, cause problems in terms of cache and so on? Do these folders contain cache?
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Yes. The whole reason to do a clean load is to ensure the integrity of the load and to not reload the previous problems or malware. Letting the apps install clean is important.
I only restore data to trusted apps that allow backup and are difficult to setup from scratch... like Poweramp.
If you fail... you will live with the issues it caused until you factory reset it, again, in the worst case scenario. It's good to go through installing all the apps and configuring them at a reload as it allows you to spot previous mistakes and raises your level of awareness.
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Yes. The whole reason to do a clean load is to ensure the integrity of the load and to not reload the previous problems or malware. Letting the apps install clean is important.
I only restore data to trusted apps that allow backup and are difficult to setup from scratch... like Poweramp.
If you fail... you will live with the issues it caused until you factory reset it, again, in the worst case scenario. It's good to go through installing all the apps and configuring them at a reload as it allows you to spot previous mistakes and raises your level of awareness.
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Yea I get it, like you should only backup the folders/appdata from apps you know it won't cause problems. Otherwise clean installing best option.
Today I also found out that some websites in Firefox, also have this problem in top left corner not responding. I guess it's software related, because same websites had no issues on Chrome.
Mr.5g said:
Today I also found out that some websites in Firefox, also have this problem in top left corner not responding. I guess it's software related, because same websites had no issues on Chrome.
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mmm the touch screen's response is perhaps too high???
Canard caché said:
mmm the touch screen's response is perhaps too high???
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It has reported to samsung, perhaps next update will be fixed