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I just purchased my HTC Amaze five days ago and it is randomly turning off. It hasn't happened while using it, but it seems like every day now it has turned off while I haven't been using it. I push the lock button to unlock the phone and it is simply off. When I turn it back on everything is fine, but it is getting really old having to turn it back on so often. At first I thought maybe I was holding the lock button too long and accidentally turning it off, but that is not the case and the phone has been sitting on a table most times it has turned off without a case so the button isn't being pressed accidentally. The battery has more than half of the charge left so that shouldn't be the problem either. The phone just has the standard tmobile apps that came with it so that shouldn't be causing a problem.
Is this common? Is there a setting on the phone that turns it off automatically after awhile or at a certain time? If there isn't a setting is there a way for me to fix the phone or is it simply defective? I didn't buy the extra warranty, but I am within the 14 days to return the phone but it says on the box there is a 50 dollar restocking fee.
I bet there would be no function called automatic turn-off on this phone...and personally I have never faced this issue so far, during my half month period of daily use. Even there is a charge (which I never know), I would still suggest go for exchange. Random turn-off may relates to hardware defect, and is difficult to fix through software change. Try another one and hopefully that would take your headache away. Good luck.
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I bet there would be no function called automatic turn-off on this phone...and personally I have never faced this issue so far, during my half month period of daily use. Even there is a charge (which I never know), I would still suggest go for exchange. Random turn-off may relates to hardware defect, and is difficult to fix through software change. Try another one and hopefully that would take your headache away. Good luck.
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Exactly what I think.
OP: If you are within the grace period, you can exchange the phone without restocking fee, especially if your device is defective.
Good luck!
Two other things I thought might be completely unrelated is that whenever I turn the phone on it says no sim card and then recognizes that there is a sim card and gets a signal and starts working immediately after that.
The other thing is that it says new voice mail whenever I turn the phone on, but when I check the voice mail there is none.
I took the sim card and battery out and put them back in. The no sim card message on start up is gone for now at least. The odd thing I noticed when I put the sim card in is it seems to slide in too easy. On my old phones I am used to a little bit of resistance when putting the sim in, but on this phone it goes in really easy, almost too easy. It seems like it could be easily jarred or even vibrated loose.
Is it supposed to be so easy to slide? Would the phone turn off if it stopped recognizing the sim card?
Thanks for the replies, I haven't ignored them, I am just trying to avoid having to go all the way back to the store, but I will if it shuts down again.
j181 said:
I took the sim card and battery out and put them back in. The no sim card message on start up is gone for now at least. The odd thing I noticed when I put the sim card in is it seems to slide in too easy. On my old phones I am used to a little bit of resistance when putting the sim in, but on this phone it goes in really easy, almost too easy. It seems like it could be easily jarred or even vibrated loose.
Is it supposed to be so easy to slide? Would the phone turn off if it stopped recognizing the sim card?
Thanks for the replies, I haven't ignored them, I am just trying to avoid having to go all the way back to the store, but I will if it shuts down again.
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A loose sim card causing shutdowns? Hard to imagine how.
I just checked mine, and the metal restrainer is keeping my sim card pretty tight. It is not supposed to be moving around as you guessed.
My sim card sits pretty tight too. The "no sim card" message also pops up every time I turn on the phone. Guess the phone needs a short period to detect whether the sim card is there. For the voice mail I have no clue yet, check with your carrier maybe. Within the grace period I guess you could use this loose problem to support your demand and hopefully the store would not charge you any.
For the random reboot issue, try to do a master reset and that should help. I had that same problem the first few days i used it but after the reset it went away. It wouldnt hurt to try. Just remember all the free apps you downloaded because they will go away.
Sent from the Proud owner of an HTC AMAZE
For the ghost v-mail...use a different phone or have someone call you and leave you a v-mail...as soon as you delete it the ghost voice mail will be gone too. I used to get these all the time on my HD2 and when I called T-Mobile that is what they told me to do...works everytime, until it pops up again. It was explained to me that it happens because you HAD a v-mail at one time and it got stuck in limbo when you deleted it, thus a ghost v-mail.
Thank you for all the help. The factory reset fixed the phone. It hasn't turned off once since I reset it several days ago and it was doing it every day before. Leaving a voicemail also fixed the voicemail that wouldn't go away.
Is anyone else having issues with the External SD card disappearing when the phone is slightly jarred (not dropped, really)? I noticed mine doing it when I first got the phone but just thought I didn't have it in very well. Now I've discovered it is happening about 50% of the time if my phone is jarred, just setting it down does it sometimes. I believe it is a loose solder joint or something of that nature; so I will be exchanging. Anyone else?
Well by the lack of response I am guessing no one else is having this problem. I exchanged the phone and the new one is working great. I am using the same external card so it was definitely the phone.
I was so happy with my first Sony Z2, I decided I wanted a second one and bought me the 32GB version a few weeks back and gave my old 16GB one to my wife. I have been using my new tablet abit lately, but I get periodic issues with the touchscreen. Most of the time everything working fine, but then suddenly the screen will only respond to very hard touches, and something like picking up a icon and moving it on the screen is impossible. If I try to press and move it, sometimes it will open the program, and sometimes you can see I'm picking up the icon but it looks like im dropping the second I pick it up. Then 5 minutes later I can pick up the icon and move it around on the screen no problem.
I'm not sure what to do since it's very random. I'm not sure if I should bring it back to the shop, or do a factory reset first. It's very random, and often only last a few minutes before the effect is gone, but when it's bad it's almost impossible to do something like typing. Anyone else with issues?
I think there was a screen diagnostic menu somewhere, anyone recall where this was?
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I was so happy with my first Sony Z2, I decided I wanted a second one and bought me the 32GB version a few weeks back and gave my old 16GB one to my wife. I have been using my new tablet abit lately, but I get periodic issues with the touchscreen. Most of the time everything working fine, but then suddenly the screen will only respond to very hard touches, and something like picking up a icon and moving it on the screen is impossible. If I try to press and move it, sometimes it will open the program, and sometimes you can see I'm picking up the icon but it looks like im dropping the second I pick it up. Then 5 minutes later I can pick up the icon and move it around on the screen no problem.
I'm not sure what to do since it's very random. I'm not sure if I should bring it back to the shop, or do a factory reset first. It's very random, and often only last a few minutes before the effect is gone, but when it's bad it's almost impossible to do something like typing. Anyone else with issues?
I think there was a screen diagnostic menu somewhere, anyone recall where this was?
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I made a short video showing the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgi75O2mqak&feature=youtu.be
You should have red this topic before buying : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735460
One of the hottest post of the z2 tablet forum.
If It's possible for you get a refund and buy another tablet.
I have it since may and it's definitely my last Sony product.
Indeed I should, noticed after reading this that my tablet is indeed bent as well... So back it goes then!
I also have a 16GB version, and I have zero issues with that, been a very good tablet for me but the 16GB size is very limiting.
Sunday I started having issues with my display, and I'm wondering if it is a software or hardware issue. It is on stock 47A software that is rooted with KingRoot. At times, the display will either blank out (black screen, but the backlight is still on) or random vertical stripes on top of the screen. If I toggle the power button to turn the display off, then back on, the lock screen display comes on, and sometimes I can draw my pattern before the issue pops up again, and sometimes I can't. Whenever I'm finally able to get past the lock screen, the app that I was in before is still in the same spot. The only thing that I can think of that may have caused the problem is that Saturday night I left the phone in my truck overnight in 38 degree weather and the battery was completely dead when I got it out the next morning. Any suggestions?
i had a similar problem over the weekend. my screen started acting flaky. when the screen did work, it would fade to black after a few seconds. the digitizer and buttons still worked. my phone would respond to screen unlocks and i was even able to answer a call when the screen wasn't working. also, another problem i had for the last month was that sometimes the camera app would show purple lines all over the screen and they would be captured in the image.
i ended up opening up my phone and disconnecting and reconnecting the connectors for the camera and display. this seems to have fixed my issues. my screen works fine again and my camera isn't showing the purple lines anymore. i've dropped my phone quite a few times, which probably shook some connectors loose. reseating them seems to have done the trick. while my phone was apart, i also baked the motherboard in an oven for 10 minutes at 320 degrees F. maybe this helped, but my guess is that reseating the connectors is what fixed my problems.
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i had a similar problem over the weekend. my screen started acting flaky. when the screen did work, it would fade to black after a few seconds. the digitizer and buttons still worked. my phone would respond to screen unlocks and i was even able to answer a call when the screen wasn't working. also, another problem i had for the last month was that sometimes the camera app would show purple lines all over the screen and they would be captured in the image.
i ended up opening up my phone and disconnecting and reconnecting the connectors for the camera and display. this seems to have fixed my issues. my screen works fine again and my camera isn't showing the purple lines anymore. i've dropped my phone quite a few times, which probably shook some connectors loose. reseating them seems to have done the trick. while my phone was apart, i also baked the motherboard in an oven for 10 minutes at 320 degrees F. maybe this helped, but my guess is that reseating the connectors is what fixed my problems.
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I tried reseating the connections over the weekend, but still having issues with it today. I'm hoping to find some time to get TWRP loaded and try a custom ROM to see if the issue is still there.
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I tried reseating the connections over the weekend, but still having issues with it today. I'm hoping to find some time to get TWRP loaded and try a custom ROM to see if the issue is still there.
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Have you tried going back to pure stock, no root, no TWRP? Also, did you just flash a custom ROM and the problems started happening? If you haven't flashed recently, and going back to pure stock doesn't cure the issue, I'd say it's a hardware issue.
How old is your phone? Mine is almost 2 years and just after accepting the 49A OTA, my SD card no longer works reliably. I've flashed back to previous stock versions, used various different cards, looked at the motherboard, reseated all connectors and the problem still persists, so mine is definitely a hardware problem.
So, if you go through all the things I did and the screen still acts flakey, then I'd say it's definitely a hardware problem.
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Have you tried going back to pure stock, no root, no TWRP? Also, did you just flash a custom ROM and the problems started happening? If you haven't flashed recently, and going back to pure stock doesn't cure the issue, I'd say it's a hardware issue.
How old is your phone? Mine is almost 2 years and just after accepting the 49A OTA, my SD card no longer works reliably. I've flashed back to previous stock versions, used various different cards, looked at the motherboard, reseated all connectors and the problem still persists, so mine is definitely a hardware problem.
So, if you go through all the things I did and the screen still acts flakey, then I'd say it's definitely a hardware problem.
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I don't have TWRP installed on it. It is on the Verizon 47A stock version, rooted with Kingroot, so it loses root after reboots. I have not made any software changes for a few months. I did leave my phone in my truck overnight the night before this started happening. I think it got down to the 30s or 40s that night, so nothing extreme.
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I don't have TWRP installed on it. It is on the Verizon 47A stock version, rooted with Kingroot, so it loses root after reboots. I have not made any software changes for a few months. I did leave my phone in my truck overnight the night before this started happening. I think it got down to the 30s or 40s that night, so nothing extreme.
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Not sure if that could cause it or not, but I had an issue with a lap top that I left in my trunk overnight and it got into the 30s and the screen had issues after that. That could be the issue. If so, it's definitely a hardware problem and you'll have to replace the touch screen glass and digitizer together.
for me, reseating the connectors only bought me a few more days. i tried opening up my phone again and reseating the connectors once more, but that didn't help. my screen will stay on for a few minutes before having issues. sometimes the image freezes and then slowly fades away. the digitizer still responds to my actions. i just can't see what i'm doing. i guess it's time to upgrade. too bad i missed verizon's black friday deal on the pixel xl. in the meantime, i'm using my old galaxy nexus that i resurrected.
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for me, reseating the connectors only bought me a few more days. i tried opening up my phone again and reseating the connectors once more, but that didn't help. my screen will stay on for a few minutes before having issues. sometimes the image freezes and then slowly fades away. the digitizer still responds to my actions. i just can't see what i'm doing. i guess it's time to upgrade. too bad i missed verizon's black friday deal on the pixel xl. in the meantime, i'm using my old galaxy nexus that i resurrected.
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I feel your pain. I was looking at that, but VZW only would give me $40 for my G3 if I traded it in. That still left over $600 to pay for the Pixel.
The only issue with my phone is the SD card slot is bad. Everything else works, so I can live with this phone for as long as it will last. Once it dies, not sure what to do next.
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for me, reseating the connectors only bought me a few more days. i tried opening up my phone again and reseating the connectors once more, but that didn't help. my screen will stay on for a few minutes before having issues. sometimes the image freezes and then slowly fades away. the digitizer still responds to my actions. i just can't see what i'm doing. i guess it's time to upgrade. too bad i missed verizon's black friday deal on the pixel xl. in the meantime, i'm using my old galaxy nexus that i resurrected.
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I have 3 G3s on my plan that I upgraded on black Friday with a Moto Z Droid, Moto Z Droid Force, and a Pixel XL for me. While I wait for the Pixel XL to come in, I'm using one of the other G3s. I tried taking the motherboard out of mine to swap with another phone, and the problem followed the motherboard. Unfortunately the other 2 phones weren't rooted, so they are on the 49A software, which I haven't seen how to root.
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I have 3 G3s on my plan that I upgraded on black Friday with a Moto Z Droid, Moto Z Droid Force, and a Pixel XL for me. While I wait for the Pixel XL to come in, I'm using one of the other G3s. I tried taking the motherboard out of mine to swap with another phone, and the problem followed the motherboard. Unfortunately the other 2 phones weren't rooted, so they are on the 49A software, which I haven't seen how to root.
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nicely done. i'd like to upgrade to the pixel xl, if it ever becomes available. hopefully there's some kind of deal when it does. i saw the moto z in the verizon store. the moto mods are interesting.
i think you can downgrade from 49a to 10b and then root and upgrade from there.
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nicely done. i'd like to upgrade to the pixel xl, if it ever becomes available. hopefully there's some kind of deal when it does. i saw the moto z in the verizon store. the moto mods are interesting.
i think you can downgrade from 49a to 10b and then root and upgrade from there.
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I started to try to, but was having trouble, and didn't have time to figure it out. My XL is scheduled to ship on Jan 6th. I think if you order it now, the scheduled ship date is 1/13.
hello , i have a phone LG G3 verizon version when i started to watch a video the screen turned off and when i turned on the phone again the screen turn on with green color and a crash message appear :
TZ crash
DemiGod Crash Handler : TZ crash
press key to choose Dload or reboot
1/volume Up : Dload Mode
2/ volume Down :Reboot
if you choose Dload mode please do following action
1/ dload mode please connect Usb
2/get the ram dump image using QPST configuration
i choosed reboot mode but nothing new the phone still off
for the dload mode i think i need a software, and i don't new what is the QPST configuration!!??
i hope that is not a motherboard problem.
if you have any solutions,any suggestions, tel me please.
thank you.
I was on evox everything was fine and i thought id try the new Havok, i clean flashed as normal and (this happened before but only for alittle and format fixed it) now my SD or my SIM arent being recognized, not even in TWRP.
I tried reflashing vendor/firmware, format, wiped everything still SD wasnt being detected but it did show up on PC and i saved all my data. I then formated SD and still no detection.
I reflashed EVO and all worked except sim and SD, so i went and did a full miui flash with mi tool.
Im now at miui setup page and its asking me for sim when its in there, tested my sim in my friend iphone and it works.
Is my phone burned?
well in the end after a hard shake of my phone the sim and sd it started working again, for how long? who knows.
phone repair guy said it would cost probably 300-400-500shekelw to solder, the phone was bought for 1000 so fk it.
question if anyone knows this is the phone signal graph from gsam, it used to never go below 40,, does this mean im losing connection during the day?
Mooatreides said:
well in the end after a hard shake of my phone the sim and sd it started working again, for how long? who knows.
phone repair guy said it would cost probably 300-400-500shekelw to solder, the phone was bought for 1000 so fk it.
question if anyone knows this is the phone signal graph from gsam, it used to never go below 40,, does this mean im losing connection during the day?
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Yes. If you travel with the phone, this may be normal. If the phone is in one place the whole time, then either you have an issue or your mobile tower/provider has.
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Yes. If you travel with the phone, this may be normal. If the phone is in one place the whole time, then either you have an issue or your mobile tower/provider has.
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I was completely static sitting at work when these readings were taken, thing is same type of graph happens at home also . Previously the graph would be always between 40 to 80 and no sharp ups or downs all just normal(fromnexactly same locations) and this erratic signal only started after i lost my sd and sim connection for like 12 hours (shaking the phone brought it back which leads me to think it hardware).
My gf once shoved in a pin to eject the sd and i think she did it too far or something and nicked some solder point since shortly after the sim and sd stopped working, but everything went back to normal after a while. This second time it happened again that i lost sim and sd and now i have this erratic graph where it says my signal is at 0 but i still got a call.
Jsut to try i switched from evox to crdroid and i observed the same type of signal graph so its not a rom thing.
these readings are from when i switched roms to test and its the same.
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these readings are from when i switched roms to test and its the same.
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Apart from Gsam showing these readings, do you have any issues with calls? If not, I would simply ignore it.
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Apart from Gsam showing these readings, do you have any issues with calls? If not, I would simply ignore it.
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I had problems with download speeds, i was getting like half normal.
I FIXED it though with a bushfix, i put like 4 layers of cellophane tape on my sim card and now it seems it presses it in better, my stats are now steady between 40-80 depending if im indoors or out, no drop offs at all.
I hope this lasts! if not looking into mi 9 or K20 pro.
Mooatreides said:
I had problems with download speeds, i was getting like half normal.
I FIXED it though with a bushfix, i put like 4 layers of cellophane tape on my sim card and now it seems it presses it in better, my stats are now steady between 40-80 depending if im indoors or out, no drop offs at all.
I hope this lasts! if not looking into mi 9 or K20 pro.
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I'm having the same bs with mine (losing SIM and sd card access periodically). I have the added ballache of random shutdowns for hours at a time.
After noticing one side of the SIM tray was slightly worn down and wondering if it wasn't pressing the cards onto the terminals sufficiently firmly, I tried adding tape. One layer didn't do the trick and I was reluctant to use more and get it stuck inside the phone.
I've ordered a new SIM tray from Ali express - hope this will do the trick
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I'm having the same bs with mine (losing SIM and sd card access periodically). I have the added ballache of random shutdowns for hours at a time.
After noticing one side of the SIM tray was slightly worn down and wondering if it wasn't pressing the cards onto the terminals sufficiently firmly, I tried adding tape. One layer didn't do the trick and I was reluctant to use more and get it stuck inside the phone.
I've ordered a new SIM tray from Ali express - hope this will do the trick
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Really grinds my gears having this stuff happen, at first i thought the connectors were broken, im not sure if its the tray though cuz i took my girls poco sim tray with her sd an last time it dint detect hers either.
Try what i did first to see if it helps, 3/4 layers of the clear tape, put it on the sd n cut to size.
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I'm having the same bs with mine (losing SIM and sd card access periodically). I have the added ballache of random shutdowns for hours at a time.
After noticing one side of the SIM tray was slightly worn down and wondering if it wasn't pressing the cards onto the terminals sufficiently firmly, I tried adding tape. One layer didn't do the trick and I was reluctant to use more and get it stuck inside the phone.
I've ordered a new SIM tray from Ali express - hope this will do the trick
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Soo you are saying that sometimes your simcard would randomly die with no reason, and even after getting out and putting back didn't 100% fixed it?
Also that your phone suddenly died for like 2 hour and you couldn't start it no matter what?
Cuz i had these 2 problems.
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Soo you are saying that sometimes your simcard would randomly die with no reason, and even after getting out and putting back didn't 100% fixed it?
Also that your phone suddenly died for like 2 hour and you couldn't start it no matter what?
Cuz i had these 2 problems.
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Yup, that's what has been happening. Sometimes popping out the SIM and reinserting it helps, but often it doesn't. I've found it happens less when the SIM is in the SIM 1 slot rather than SIM 2, meaning I can't use an SD card. Makes me wonder though if it's mechanical, hence whether a new SIM tray might help
Random shutdowns are a PITA. They've lasted days before now
I returned it to Xiaomi for repair. They found it started up and returned it insisting it is fine. Despite videos showing the problem. Waste of time!
Did you manage to get yours over this or is it still happening?
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Yup, that's what has been happening. Sometimes popping out the SIM and reinserting it helps, but often it doesn't. I've found it happens less when the SIM is in the SIM 1 slot rather than SIM 2, meaning I can't use an SD card. Makes me wonder though if it's mechanical, hence whether a new SIM tray might help
Random shutdowns are a PITA. They've lasted days before now
I returned it to Xiaomi for repair. They found it started up and returned it insisting it is fine. Despite videos showing the problem. Waste of time!
Did you manage to get yours over this or is it still happening?
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It didn't happend after 3 shut downs. And neither the sim issues. Just to be sure i CLEAN FLASHED AND LOCKED BOOTLOADER than unlocked again and clean flashed latest xiaomi eu. Since then i didn't had any of those problems (but i got another one, maybe because of malakas kernel, rarely my screen would get stuck and only reboot could fix it(or touch sensor, not the OS)
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It didn't happend after 3 shut downs. And neither the sim issues. Just to be sure i CLEAN FLASHED AND LOCKED BOOTLOADER than unlocked again and clean flashed latest xiaomi eu. Since then i didn't had any of those problems (but i got another one, maybe because of malakas kernel, rarely my screen would get stuck and only reboot could fix it(or touch sensor, not the OS)
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I've done factory resets, without any improvement, but haven't relocked my bootloader
Might try that if I can summon the resolve
I've half convinced myself that it's a mechanical thing though with the positioning of the SIM card seeming to make a difference...
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I've done factory resets, without any improvement, but haven't relocked my bootloader
Might try that if I can summon the resolve
I've half convinced myself that it's a mechanical thing though with the positioning of the SIM card seeming to make a difference...
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I had the same, couldn't fix it and i got mad and put it in slot 2,whitout sdcsrd, than it worked, i was afraid that i bricked sim 1 (its sim 0 in reality but doesn't matter), than i put it back and never had problems since than. I recommend you to:
Clean Flash back 9.6.27 beta with miflash (while relock bootloader)
Unlock bootloader, install twrp, CLEAN FLASH (well i didn't wiped system cuz some people said that on the forum, and tbh doesn't affected me) latest xiaomi eu (again, whitout wiping system but wiping all), install malakas kernel and latest magisk (13 or even 14) and if you want install FDE.Ai.
If you have problems even after all of this, than it's maybe damaged hardware, which is very unlikely.
my sim has been with stable signal strength since i put acouple layers of tape on the top.
flashing things ddidn't help me at all. I was considering mi9 to replace but developpement on K20pro looks like it will b way better.
so dar everything works so ill wait a couple months before buying a new phone.
D1stRU3T0R said:
I had the same, couldn't fix it and i got mad and put it in slot 2,whitout sdcsrd, than it worked, i was afraid that i bricked sim 1 (its sim 0 in reality but doesn't matter), than i put it back and never had problems since than. I recommend you to:
Clean Flash back 9.6.27 beta with miflash (while relock bootloader)
Unlock bootloader, install twrp, CLEAN FLASH (well i didn't wiped system cuz some people said that on the forum, and tbh doesn't affected me) latest xiaomi eu (again, whitout wiping system but wiping all), install malakas kernel and latest magisk (13 or even 14) and if you want install FDE.Ai.
If you have problems even after all of this, than it's maybe damaged hardware, which is very unlikely.
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I've just been on holiday for a week, during which time I had no shutdowns at all. Could be total coincidence, but a few days before I went I moved the SIM from slot 2 to slot 1. I've done this previously and still had random shutdowns, but strangely this time it seems to be behaving currently. Most odd
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I've just been on holiday for a week, during which time I had no shutdowns at all. Could be total coincidence, but a few days before I went I moved the SIM from slot 2 to slot 1. I've done this previously and still had random shutdowns, but strangely this time it seems to be behaving currently. Most odd
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I never had problems agaon, BUT like 2 days my sdcard disconnected and could never put it back, even if it worked in another phone...
Solution?
Recap: since my F1 was about 3 months old I've been getting apparently random shutdowns lasting moments to months, also similarly sporadic signal loss and disconnection of the SD card. Have returned it to the manufacturer who took a bunch of cash from me, found it worked when they turned it on and returned it to me. A couple of days after receiving it back it shut down and continued to do so, exactly as before I sent it off. I started putting the SIM in the other slot and it worked reliably for about a month, then it all went to rat **** again.
About 2 weeks ago it shut down and wouldn't restart since. Pissed off with it and content that the warranty has no value, I took the back off last night and found that the antenna connection was loose. I pushed it in firmly (along with all the other connections to the motherboard - battery, screen etc) and fastened down the black motherboard bracket / plate / cover a bit more securely than previously, put it all back together and....
When I pressed the power button it sprang into life!
First time in 2 weeks and it's been steady as a rock since
I hope I'm not posting this prematurely - that the problem won't recur now I've tempted fate, but the initial signs seem promising
Kind of wish I'd got my screwdriver out 7 months ago and saved myself all the fannying about!
Btw, this teardown was helpful in case anyone wants to take the plunge https://youtu.be/LlubcWbsSQk