I have been searching lately and haven't found anything . Is
there a way to use a 7" Android Tablet (rooted Nook Color
running CM7 ) as a graphics tablet for pc? Such as the ones
made by Wacom where you can see what you are drawing
on the tablet and on the pc screen. I know you could
technically use a remote desktop program but that's awfully
laggy. I was hoping there may be a way to use the usb cable
to plug up the tablet to the computer and simply use it as a
editable surface to draw on .
If this is obvious, I 'm sorry. I have just been thinking about
this a lot as I currently own a Bamboo Fun tablet as well but
I' d like to see more detail on the tablet itself.
I tried iDisplay and it 's too laggy. A usb method would
be optimal and I figured since I'm rooted someone may
have figured something out ...
Also, I have USB hosting active on the tablet if thats
necessary.
I know it has come up before (about 6 months ago from my searches) and was wondering if anything has happened at all. I would prefer that I have the option of extending my screen (for entertainment) or duplicating it (for art work)
Me too
I wish I was bringing you an answers but instead, I'm asking the same question. Every few weeks I scour the web for an alternative to iDisplay, specifically something that is wired for speed. I travel over half the year and I'm in the habit of lugging a small monitor with me so I can work efficiently. I know Toshiba has a portable usb monitor...isn't there a way to make our tablet's function this way as well?
If there is anything out there to try/buy or support? I'm in. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks for putting your name on the list! I have been looking everywhere for something that could work with no luck. It doesn't seem like it should be hard to tap into the screen of a tablet through usb. Especially seeing as we have the drivers and what not.
Tapping into the monitor would be nice but to take it a step further, integration would be optimal. Such as the integration of the two touchscreens in the acer notebook. Your android device could be used as a virtual navigation device, you could use it to hold windows or play media, or you could even use it in art related programs as a drawing tablet.
It seems like there should be a bigger demand for this. I'm surprised there isn't
I've been interested in developing stuff like this for a while now, but unfortunately, I just haven't found the time to devote to such Android development.
For this to work, your PC would be acting as the USB host. The tablet would still just be a USB device connected to your PC like it always is (you would not be using your tablet as a hosting device for this). The PC would need the proper driver software (which, as noted, already exists). But software on the tablet would also have to advertise and implement additional usb profiles/protocols in order to inform the host that it has additional USB monitor/touchscreen functionality. This is the part that to my knowledge, does not yet exist. (if it does, let me know, ya'll may have done more research on this than I have)
In other words, yeah, there are drivers for a PC that know how to talk to a usb monitor/touchscreen. But on the other end there needs to be software that knows how to act as a usb monitor/touchscreen and fulfill the other half of that conversation. When you buy a usb monitor/touchscreen from Wacom or Toshiba, they're providing a device which already knows how to act and talk as a usb monitor/touchscreen. But that software is running on their device, so unless they've made some libraries available somewhere or there are some standard libraries available somewhere for this, it isn't as easy as one might think.
This might make more sense if you consider a simpler device like a usb keyboard. Your PC knows how to receive keystrokes from a usb keyboard because it has the appropriate driver software. However, if you wanted your tablet to act as a usb keyboard, you would need software on the tablet that knows how to send keystrokes over USB using the standard usb protocols/profiles.
Hope that makes sense.
~Troop
WM8505 Generic Chinese Android Tablet
CPU VIA WM8505 400MHZ ARM926EJ-S
Memory DDR2 128MB
HDD 2GB
Screen Size 7 inch TFT High Clear DigitalScreen
Resolution 800*480; 262,114 colors
It's running a modded Android 1.6. I'm just wonderign if anyone knows if it's possible to use this as a USB monitor. Or even remove the screen to mod it to be used as a USB monitor. I don't care if it's touchscreen or not.
For the past few days I have been racking my brain and searching multiple forums for the answer(s) and I finally turn to XDA to hopefully help answer.
The thought: I would love to be able to take my DroidX connect it via HDMI to a 7" monitor in my car to have a nice view of the navigation, access to my music and all of the other items that the phone has to offer (which include data connection and accurate GPS). Sure I can buy an android based headunit or build a carPC but why when I have what all of that has to offer in my pocket? Then I got to thinking, to take it a step further, why not use a 7" touchscreen monitor so that I am not just passing video and sound via the HDMI but that the monitor registers touches to the phone.
WebTop is a great middle of the road solution as it would output the HDMI and allow the user to utilize the phone as the mouse touchpad on the screen. Sadly it is only offered for a select few phones. So on to my questions.
1. Did I some how miss a WebTop project being worked on that would do what I am talking about?
2. Am I wrong in thinking that drivers need to be worked out depending on the phone AND which 7" TS was used?
3. Most, if not all, android phones have video out capabilities, so outputting to the screen would be workable, but is there a better way to get the input hurdle worked out.. not a question just an open suggestion box.
Looks like a few more days or looking would have helped. Customgadz has what I need.
so what did you find? I searched for Customgadz, with no results. did you use hdmi mirroring with Android, or does this work with webtop?
Looks like the australian website has a solution to control an android device with a 4 wire external touchscreen using a module.
search for "customgadz remote touch"
Only pre-order now and the website states they start delivering end of januari
As the topic says, I wonder if we can get a working copy on the Prime. Story follows:
CNET's Brooke Crothers says that his sources have told him that Windows 8 is now stable on the ARM platform and will be seeded to developers soon. He also suggests that the ARM versions of Windows 8 will indeed include the legacy Windows desktop.
"Windows 8 on ARM should go to developers in February, said one source, who had some hands-on time with a high-profile device from a major PC maker, adding that Windows 8 was impressive and stable," Crothers writes. "In October of last year [Windows 8 on ARM] scared the industry because it was unstable. But what we are seeing now is quite stable, said another source, who also confirmed an expected February developer time frame."
Among the other tidbits of interest in this post:
Less expensive. ARM-based Windows 8 devices will be less expensive than those based on x86 ... to the tune of "hundreds of dollars less on ARM. "
ARM and x86 releases will not be staggered. Despite rumors that the ARM- and x86-based versions of Windows 8 might ship at different times, Crothers's sources say that's not so. "The release of Windows 8 on ARM should not be later than the release of Windows 8 on Intel," the post notes.
Microsoft Office. According to one of Crothers's sources, "Office is fine [on ARM]." If true, this means that the legacy Windows desktop will be included on ARM-based versions of Windows.
Legacy applications. As expected, however, normal legacy applications will not work on ARM without being recompiled for that platform. "I'm not aware of any third-party legacy applications running on Windows 8 on ARM," one source told CNET.
Why so secret. One of the most vexing things about dealing with Microsoft these days is the veil of secrecy around anything about Windows 8. The app compatibility story on ARM-based Windows 8 versions may be a big part of this, the report suggests. "That's one of the snags that Microsoft is trying to work through. You want to come out with a fairly robust library of applications, one source said. Both believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft is being cautious about demonstrating Windows 8 on ARM."
Interesting stuff.
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Source:
http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/su...indows-8-arm-stable-heading-developers-142084
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
the_game_master said:
nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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$5 says if you install the latest drivers (synaptic I assume) from mfr site you can. The touch pad does NOT need to support multi touch, they basically say if it detects wierd input, assume 2 fingers for scrolling. Even worked on my old Pentium M which was definitely not multi touch. Won't give you pinch zoom like the new models but 2 finger scrolling is FORWARD compatible, at least with synaptic.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Wordlywisewiz said:
I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Right? I and the when I try to go back to using the touchpad its like I have never used it before.
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Good news to hear then. Can't wait till dual boot possibility then. Hopefully it can be as simple as an apk install..lol I had an old tilt2(rhodium) win mote phone. I was able to dualboot android, xdandroid, thru just a cab install.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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When my mother wanted to see if she could borrow my old notebook, I did that too, a lot....which oddlyshe had tried with my netbook once when fiddling with it, before getting a tablet lol.
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OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
TalynOne said:
Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
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OK, I see now. I guess the screen resolution and NFC requirement thru me off the most. Thanks for clarifying that.
Windows 8 was demonstrated lightly on the Tegra 2 platform and heavily on the Tegra 3 platform.
The Prime's hardware is there; it will just take some development.
Anyone Try to Install/Dual boot Windows 8 on Prime?
Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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that won't work at all since the win8 copy that's out right now is the x86 branch.
we need the arm branch to at least begin to start trying to get it working.
plus we need an unlocked bootloader as well.
There has been some discussion, but none since the Consumer Preview came out about being able to get Windows on a tablet such as the Gtab which is a Tegra2 chipset.
Does anybody know if it is even possible to get Windows on the Gtab at any point without a specific bootloader for it? With Android being more open than Windows we can tinker and change it far more than we ever will with Windows so I am not so much as asking if it is being done as much as I am asking if it can be done. And then if so if anybody is even looking at doing it. I would love to take a Consumer Preview copy and try to install it on my Gtab just to see if it would work but I don't know enough about tablet technology to even start, desktop on the other hand I'll get working, but not with a tablet.
So after all this, if anybody is willing to assist in trying this I am will to test it out. I have 2 Gtabs and I am willing to put one up for testing, but I want to do the testing so I can learn if anybody is will to teach.
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Firedog7881 said:
There has been some discussion, but none since the Consumer Preview came out about being able to get Windows on a tablet such as the Gtab which is a Tegra2 chipset.
Does anybody know if it is even possible to get Windows on the Gtab at any point without a specific bootloader for it? With Android being more open than Windows we can tinker and change it far more than we ever will with Windows so I am not so much as asking if it is being done as much as I am asking if it can be done. And then if so if anybody is even looking at doing it. I would love to take a Consumer Preview copy and try to install it on my Gtab just to see if it would work but I don't know enough about tablet technology to even start, desktop on the other hand I'll get working, but not with a tablet.
So after all this, if anybody is willing to assist in trying this I am will to test it out. I have 2 Gtabs and I am willing to put one up for testing, but I want to do the testing so I can learn if anybody is will to teach.
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gTab doesn't come close to meeting the min hardware specs that Microsoft has published for Win8 tablets (screen res, hardware buttons, storage space, UEFI support, Bluetooth 4.0, 720P camera, magnetometer & gyro, etc). It is doubtful that any modern Windows version will ever run in the 512M of memory the gTab has. In addition, MS has also said that Win8 Tablet will be tied to hardware (you won't be able to go to your local PC store & pick up a copy to install on any old tablet). The vendors will tie Win8 to their specific hardware & that is the only way you will be able to get it.
FYI, the Win8 tabs that were given out at BUILD had an Intel core i5 processor, 4G ram, 64G SSD, 1366x768 display, Wireless N, & 3G.
With android, devs have access to os source code that helps them to be able to modify android to the varying hardware. In the case of Win8, I don't believe you will ever see MS release source code which would make the task of porting to an unsupported devices next to impossible. Just my 2 cents.
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If anyone is interested in this, I can create a mini tut how. You will need root on the other android device but not on Yogabook. I am guessing that I am the only one who uses it this way.
I use my Yogabook to draw on my Note 2014 10.1 for example. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it is not. For instance I can keep the screen at any distance I want, I also can use the pressure sensitive pen on the screen of Samsung Note without disconnecting my Yogabook So I can switch back and forth at no cost.
This seems to work with any android tablet well as long as they have proper input. I tested it with my Nook Hd and it works. So if you have a 12 inch android tablet then you will get much nicer screen space and much better pressure sensitivity. The Yogabook pen has much deeper pressure sensing compared to the wacom stuff ships with Samsung line as far a I can tell.
I haven't got one yet but plan to (there are other more urgent pending expenses), but I would love to have this for when I do get it. I'm guessing that not only will it work for other tablets but any other Android devices (like tv boxes).
But anyways, I hope you share (and that the method survives the nougat upgrade if/when it comes).
Apologies for the thread resurrection. Did you make progress with this? And if so, how well does it work?
Can I, for example, use Sketchbook or Squid on one Android device, and just use my Yoga Book as an input device for it, much as one would use an Intuos tablet on a PC? Can it operate with the Yoga Book's screen turned off?