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October Edition just arrived, 6 months late, but it did arrive and it did work (albeit with the additional Cradle not in the box)
Charged, set up email to send myself the Google Play apk; double clicked it and everything worked fine. Activated my Android and all working well.
Downloaded some apps, inc spotify and mapmyrun. Added a sim card and sd card - not well designed really. The galaxy s5 shows how simple it is to do and retain waterproofing. The Omate, with tiny fiddly screws, rubber bits, non symetrical cover etc was something I hope not to have to do again; which renders my spare battery a bit pointless. I was expecting to pop off the back and swap a drained battery for a charged one, as I can do on a mobile.
However, with battery at 67% went for a 1 hour run and with GPS, Wifi, Data and Bluetooth active (music to BT Headphones and running data being tracked) battery only went down 20% - impressive! and confirmed I can give up the GPS watch...
All good, but definitely some sticking points. Wifi at one point wouldn't re-activate, without a long reboot. The keyboard can drive you insane, especially entering masked passwords - the keyboard can be supersensitive and fire off several characters at once by accident, so you have to start again. The 'show passwords' option doesn't always work.
The navigation seems awkward and inconsistent - i wish there was a back button, the swipe left often triggers an option or menu unintentionally so you have to go back twice and when the same thing happens again, it's not long before you give up and press the home button...
Maybe it's just some getting used to - day 1 and all that!
Overall this is an incredible piece of tech and will be a big benefit to my lifestyle. It requires a change of thinking I suspect, but one that is welcome, so overall I am very pleased with the first impression.
I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
Thanks for the reply, it's good to share tips and tricks!
I saw that Loki has actually abandoned TrueSmart. Frustrations with their updates and lack of support I think.
Primarily for me this watch was a replacement sports tracker, but my hopes for an all-purpose watch are not looking good as the blue-tooth tethering is not working with my S5; it pairs successfully, but doesn't connect, so the TrueSmart Master app is useless.
The TS also doesn't connect to my BT headset for voice, but it did connect with the JayBird headphones (although the cutting out was super irritating).
In Summary - BlueTooth not reliable and will be a deal-breaker as I would have to carry my phone anyway.
Couple with the infuriating keyboard and inconsistent navigation, (I've now tried the LMT dial thing, which also doesn't work properly) I'm losing interest fast - which is a shame as it could be so good.
For charging, my GPS watch uses a clip as you describe. So much better than the cradle which renders the watch inaccessible while it's charging. But why not a simple USB port with a cover, like the S5....(a proper waterproof phone). Even the solar charger will then require carrying two separate items for the TS...
You can set up profiles on an app called Easy Battery Saver - I used it on my last phone and installed it for TS. It works as described and easy to activate/de-activate.
I will keep with the TS a while longer, but I suspect the next Galaxy Gear, which is rumoured to be stand-alone, will be what we are really looking for...
Hope to hear more from you - I will post my next findings on the TS too.
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I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
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More success with BT pairing
More success today - got the bt headset (MyVoice 312) paired for calls, plus the jabra sport wireless+ bt headphones for music.... both devices paired and switch automatically when powering on and off.
Galaxy S5 also paired, but no joy with the SWAPPS app. I will keep trying with that, but it's actually a low priority since I have a sim for the TS ($10 per month for second sim with same number as primary sim)
Tonight I hope to try the Endomondo app on the TS paired with the Jabras, since they have a special feature that gives realtime data from the app when pushing a button on the headphones.
I can see it's going to take a while with the TS, but the tech is really good and offers a lot of promise. It's all about expectations I guess.
If the BT goes all intermittent again tonight I will be v disappointed as this is a basic but critical feature.
One problem I have had after exercising is that if you hand/fingers are sweaty then the TS goes nuts when you touch the screen - there really needs a sensitivity option (like on the S5)
Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
I can't help you with the technical nuts and bolts as I am going to keep it all simple and hopefully working. No ROM flashes, install PlayStore and get your BT headset working.
Just that alone gives you a mobile on your wrist which is pretty damn cool for checking email, facebook, text, whatsapp and voice calls. Plus spotify, endomondo and maps!
The keyboard is a problem though, being so sensitive. And if it's raining, forget using it at all - not because of the water resistance, but because the screen just goes crazy with the water drops.
I am going to try Google Search/Voice to see if I can use voice commands on it.
Anyone else had luck with using voice?
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Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
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Hey guys, I'm like a dev October backer and I get my watch this week-end. I have just started it today and after reading the lokifish topic I don't think it is a good idea for us to use our watches until we flashed a ROM with a secure kernel (the kernel of the 1/8/2100 is unsecure).
If you want to root your TS there is tons of solutions as it i a mediatek chip.
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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I'm using Backbeat Go 2 with my TS, I love the "minimalistic" approach to it. When not used I wear them like a necklace (you can attach the earbuds to eachother) and it's not in the way the slightest. It works great for taking phone calls, and I've tried it with both walking, biking and running with no issues. Volume controls, checking battery level, taking calls and such works great from the remote. Battery life is ok:ish, maybe a bit more than 3 hours total listening time. That is if you play music or talk on the phone non-stop, with moderate use (taking a few phonecalls during the day and similar) they last for days.
From what I hear the Backbeat Go 2 is more or less a ripoff of Jaybird Bluebuds X headphone (looks very similar), but the Jaybirds have better battery life, fits more securely in your ear for sporting and such - not that I ever had issues with that. The main thing that made me go with the Backbeat though is that it's about half the price.
Ok thanks. I'm gonna give a look to this.
Headphones
Blue-rayer said:
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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After going through two Backbeats (not the Go, think it was 903 or something similar) I can state they are useless for exercising with, no resistance to water or sweat.
I then tried a pair of Philips SHB6017/10 and lasted a month before starting to randomly calling strange numbers due to shorting out. I'm not a sweaty person, honest!
Finally settled on Jabra Sport and they're awesome, have been using them for a year now.
Thanks to Amazon who refunded and replaced every single failed headphone, even sending out the replacements before I'd sent in the dead ones.
Cheers,
Andreas
I was actually playing around with the voice commands, you do have to setup loads of Google Apps, like Google search and Maps etc and give it permission to everything but it does work... I highly recommend using Nova launcher as it places the Mic search option right on the home screen.... which launches Google search... "Ok Google" and you're off.... I'm not sure how to get it to recognise OK Google without first having started the search app... Anyway some of my favourite things to ask for....
Take me home.... (Starts maps navigation)
Play some music (starts Google music and tries to play music)
Order Pizza (finds the nearest dominos)
What is iPhone (reads out definition of an iphone)
Anyone experiencing coverage issues with a bluetooth headset? I have read that there are issues with bluetooth and automobiles, but hadn't seen anyone have any issues with headsets. I have a Sony SBH-80 and when device is in my pocket, I have breakup. When I reboot, it temporarily works great, but slowly degrades again. It used to be only my back pocket, now even it it's in my front pocket I have issues. I did not have this issue with my G4. Oh, and I'm only 5' 7", so it's not like it is a great distance between my headset and my phone!
I just bought the v10 two days ago and I'm experiencing this problem as well. I listen to podcasts while asset work, and when the phone's in my pocket, the signal constantly breaks up. But if it's on the table in front of me or in my hand, it's fine. Very frustrating. Hopefully LG will address the issue in an update soon.
Pr0f0und said:
I just bought the v10 two days ago and I'm experiencing this problem as well. I listen to podcasts while asset work, and when the phone's in my pocket, the signal constantly breaks up. But if it's on the table in front of me or in my hand, it's fine. Very frustrating. Hopefully LG will address the issue in an update soon.
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I wonder if its the headset or the phone? I believe it must be the phone, because past LG phones had bluetooth issues, and I've read where people with this phone are having bt issues with their cars, so I hope that's it. I love the headset - tremendous sound for a bt and awesome battery life!
Just noticed - I gave you your first "Thanks"!
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I wonder if its the headset or the phone? I believe it must be the phone, because past LG phones had bluetooth issues, and I've read where people with this phone are having bt issues with their cars, so I hope that's it. I love the headset - tremendous sound for a bt and awesome battery life!
Just noticed - I gave you your first "Thanks"!
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Good point. I'm almost positive it's an issue with the phone because I've used the same bt headset (Samsung HM3300) with my HTC One and LG G4 (this is my third HM3300. I keep losing them lol so the one I'm using is actually almost new).
Whether it's this specific phone or actually the V10 model, I can't tell, but I'm leaning towards the latter. Not sure it's worth exchanging the phone since I've spent hours setting it up already lol. But maybe I'll get to the point where I can't take it any more because I rely heavily on using my bt headset.
Actually between these posts, I plugged in my charger and walked 15 feet away and my bt signal was fine. But as soon as it goes in my pocket, the signal gets choppy. I dunno.
Thanks for my first like! ?
I also have a Sony SBH-80 headset and it worked with no problems connected to my Note 4. I just got my V10 on 11/1 and have had several issues with my SBH-80 connected. Sometimes when talking through my headset voices sound "electronic" and I cannot even get the phone to show disconnected from the headset when the headset is turned off. I also cannot manually disconnect. I have to reboot the phone. I'm not sure when is going on here but its about to drive me crazy. I also have a pair of LG Infinims that I have not yet paired. I am going to par them tomorrow and see if I have the same issue but I like my SBH-80s much better and hope that LG fixes the issue. Hopefully they will roll out an update to fix the bluetooth issues that I have been reading about in the forums.
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Anyone experiencing coverage issues with a bluetooth headset? I have read that there are issues with bluetooth and automobiles, but hadn't seen anyone have any issues with headsets. I have a Sony SBH-80 and when device is in my pocket, I have breakup. When I reboot [reboot what?], it temporarily works great, but slowly degrades again. It used to be only my back pocket, now even it it's in my front pocket I have issues. I did not have this issue with my G4. Oh, and I'm only 5' 7", so it's not like it is a great distance between my headset and my phone!
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I have HBS-730, and I've had some luck rotating the phone 180 degrees in the pocket - upside down. The way I see it, it brings the sensor ~15 centimeters closer to the ears. If that does not help, usually restarting the headset helps.
And I just got this new phone too.....
Well...this is disappointing. After reading thru this thread and others, I can now confirm that it definitely is my new LG V10 having BlueTooth Connectivity Issues. I paired it to my Samsung Level BT headset and when I put my V10 in my back pocket, my front pocket or my jacket pocket, the sound begins to Sputter and Crackle and Pop. When I take the V10 out of my pocket and hold it in my hand, the audio plays just fine. It's winter time in NYC and I cannot walk these streets holding my phone in my exposed hands to hear my music clearly. Really upset now with this LG V10....and I was just beginning to settle in with it too. I did a little research and found a possible solution. I intend to test it on my subway ride to work....
How to fix LG V10 Bluetooth issues:
Turn on the LG V10
Go to home screen and select the app icon
Then select on the settings icon
Browse for the Application Manager
Display All Tabs by swiping either right or left
Select on Bluetooth
Select to stop it forcefully.
Now clear the cache
Select clear the Bluetooth data
Select Ok
Finally restart the LG V10
If the steps above don’t work, try performing a wipe cache partition on your LG V10. After that, try to connect the LG V10 with another Bluetooth device in range and it should work. These instructions should be able to solve any Bluetooth problems you have on your LG V10.
And here's the link to the Wipe Cache Partition incase the the BT Fix didn't work:
recomhub.com/blog/lg-v10-how-to-clear-the-cache/
Happens with my Earpiece also. Gonna try above. Thanks
I bought the Moto 360 Sport (which is essentially the v2 in a fixed band and GPS onboard) because I like fitness/smart watches - and prefer to not have to carry my phone if possible.
Pros:
GPS tracking
Can play music from watch to BT headphones
Heart Rate/Pedometer/Barometer/Android Wear
Very comfortable
Battery life is a solid day with moderate use and about 1 hour GPS tracked running
Cons:
BT range is poor
Constantly disconnects from phone
Music breaks up while hand is moving
Actions from watch to phone fail quite a lot
Cannot track general fitness activities (e.g. weight lifting)
Should be fully waterproof
What happens if the strap breaks?
Initially contacted Motorolla thinking I had a faulty unit - but have since read more and more reviews of a similar nature to mine. They did say I could send it back for service, but to be honest, I think it's going to be on all of them.
I have realised that I wear my watch on my left wrist and my phone usually goes in my right pocket. If I take the watch off, the BT connection is great. If I listen to music with the watch on the table - it has no problems and the range is huge. Put the watch back on my wrist and it breaks up again. That must be the flaw?
Contacted Motorolla again to raise these points more specifically and have been told they will raise with the responsible department and let me know the best solution for me.
Thought I'd create the thread in case others are experiencing the same issues - or if anyone has any suggestions/additional issues. Anyway, will post an update when I have one.
UPDATE from Motorolla:
If the watch strap is damaged, it would need to be sent for repair. Unfortunately it is not possible to replace the strap yourself on the Moto 360 Sport.
For the bluetooth connectivity issues, please follow these instructions:
- Uninstall the Android Wear app and un-pair all devices that are paired with your phone.
- Turn Bluetooth off on your phone.
- From manage apps on your phone, select “Bluetooth Share”
- Tap “Force stop” then “OK”
- Tap “Clear data” then “Ok”
- Power cycle the phone by turning it completely off and then back on.
- Perform a factory data reset on the Moto 360 by going to Settings > Reset.
- Re-install the Android Wear app and connect with the Moto 360 again.
- Wait until the Moto 360 has finished syncing apps. Transfer music back to the watch again via Google Play Music, pair your wireless headphones with the watch and test it again.
Note that bluetooth devices may disconnect or create noise when their batteries are low so ensure that the watch and all other Bluetooth devices are fully charged.
If you are using the device indoors, other wireless equipment such as Wi-Fi, cordless phones, or baby monitors, that operate on the 2.4 Ghz frequency may cause interference, and contribute to a dropped connection.
If you are using the device outdoors, the Bluetooth signal may be affected by the environmental conditions.
Keep metal objects, such as keys or coins, away from all Bluetooth devices to avoid interference.
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I have a Moto 360 v2 and I continuous connection problems with Bt and service "ok google" not available. The notifications seem to arrive, but when I want to respond vocally to a message, many times not working.
The problem is Android Wear or Motorola?
For billysa: removing moto connect from your phone will likely fix the ok google disconnect problem, it did for me.
Hi
I have one and what I would like to check better is the GPS accuracy. the rest of the things you speak about I have no problem. (I have some problems with the sound of the music where I am running and I put my hands down to stretch. But it only happens a couple of times... )
but the reason I bought the Moto 360 Sport is because the GPS and I do not get the same results as with the mobile
examples of this week in some routes with a lot of slopes:
Monday/Wednesday: same route
Monday: mobile with endomondo 8km 44
watch with moto body running 8km 69
Wednesday: mobile with endomondo 8km 42
watch with endomondo 8km 53
Thursday: mobile with endomondo 6,01 km
mobile with moto body 6,26 km
the mobile tracks the routes properly but the wacht does some little bends now and then, they are very little but enough to see that is the wacth which is doing it bad
I am going to do more tests in a flat route, looking more apps (perhaps ghorstraer could work) and I gonna compare it againts a friend's good garmin forerunner in order to get further information
have you had this kind of problems with the GPS???
regards.
billysa said:
I have a Moto 360 v2 and I continuous connection problems with Bt and service "ok google" not available. The notifications seem to arrive, but when I want to respond vocally to a message, many times not working.
The problem is Android Wear or Motorola?
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I had this issue to begin with. First time I contacted Motorolla, they said to factory reset the watch and start again. I did that and it didn't work. However, I then installed Moto Connect & Body on the phone (as well as Android Wear) - all of a sudden it became more reliable with the vocal commands. In fact, when in range of the phone, it works every time now.
As Delano.88 had the opposite effect to get it working, could just be a couple of uninstall/reinstalls is what it needs.
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Hi
I have one and what I would like to check better is the GPS accuracy. the rest of the things you speak about I have no problem. (I have some problems with the sound of the music where I am running and I put my hands down to stretch. But it only happens a couple of times... )
but the reason I bought the Moto 360 Sport is because the GPS and I do not get the same results as with the mobile
examples of this week in some routes with a lot of slopes:
Monday/Wednesday: same route
Monday: mobile with endomondo 8km 44
watch with moto body running 8km 69
Wednesday: mobile with endomondo 8km 42
watch with endomondo 8km 53
Thursday: mobile with endomondo 6,01 km
mobile with moto body 6,26 km
the mobile tracks the routes properly but the wacht does some little bends now and then, they are very little but enough to see that is the wacth which is doing it bad
I am going to do more tests in a flat route, looking more apps (perhaps ghorstraer could work) and I gonna compare it againts a friend's good garmin forerunner in order to get further information
have you had this kind of problems with the GPS???
regards.
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I have noticed the same as you, yes. Been using RunKeeper on mine - when I look at the map, on the website, it's clear that the GPS is taking an age to lock on. It's a good minute before the run starts - but the route looks pretty ok. I can't see a way to determine when GPS is locked.
I see the bends too - but for me, they aren't that bad.
Good test comparisons you've got there - let me know if you find a good one! I'll just stick to RunKeeper for now - got friends on it and we compete for distance/calories done.
Edit: Actually - just had a closer look at the map and can see the route is way off! Read this review today http://www.wareable.com/android-wear/moto-360-sport-review ...it says third party apps aren't as good as the built in moto app, so I'll give that a bash today.
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Edit: Actually - just had a closer look at the map and can see the route is way off! Read this review today ...it says third party apps aren't as good as the built in moto app, so I'll give that a bash today.
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I agree with that review that the moto body running app is able to get faster (very fast actually) the gps. Endomndo takes more time to do so. and the endomondo is not able to use the watch's heart rate while moto body running do it properly. but In my case the deviate of the distance does not come from the begining, on the contrary is constant during all the route, each km the wacth do a litle bit more... with motorola running 30-40 meters per km
Besides, in my tests I foond the motorola's app less accurate than endomondo app as I wrote down in the previous post. the reviews says 'the 360 Sport was always within 100m on distances over 8km' but in my case the difference is almost 300 meters with the motorla app and only 100 with the endomondo. I wanna point out that my routes were with a lot of slopes and this could be the problem because:
at the same route:
mobile with endomondo 8,42 km Total ascent 141 meters
watch with endomondo 8,53 km Total ascent 51 meters
motorola body running does not show me this information
Thanks for the answers.
I'm testing the Moto 360 without Moto Connect and above without using the Theater Mode. For now I have seen an improvement (not always working), but it is always very slow to recover connection Bt. When the clock loses its connection freezes for a few seconds, this happens to you?
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Thanks for the answers.
I'm testing the Moto 360 without Moto Connect and above without using the Theater Mode. For now I have seen an improvement (not always working), but it is always very slow to recover connection Bt. When the clock loses its connection freezes for a few seconds, this happens to you?
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I'm not seeing that, but what I have noticed is when I use any watch face, other than a built in moto face, the connection is very unreliable and the watch crashed more. Which is no good when we're supposed to be able to customise the faces. I put up with the standard faces now.
For what it's worth, BT transmits very poorly through the human body from my experiences. If the two devices are on opposite sides of your body transmission may be temperamental.
One of my original BT headsets had an antenna that was placed in such a way that my body sat between it and my phone. When I walked outside in open areas my music would often breakup.
When you're inside this isn't much of an issues as there are plenty of surfaces (walls, doors, tables, windows) for the signal to bounce around. But in a wide open space there isn't much reflected signal to get around your body.
It might be interesting to try swapping your watch to your opposite arm during and run and see if that makes a difference.
RedRamage said:
For what it's worth, BT transmits very poorly through the human body from my experiences. If the two devices are on opposite sides of your body transmission may be temperamental.
One of my original BT headsets had an antenna that was placed in such a way that my body sat between it and my phone. When I walked outside in open areas my music would often breakup.
When you're inside this isn't much of an issues as there are plenty of surfaces (walls, doors, tables, windows) for the signal to bounce around. But in a wide open space there isn't much reflected signal to get around your body.
It might be interesting to try swapping your watch to your opposite arm during and run and see if that makes a difference.
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100% get where you're coming from. I actually have to do that when I go out running (but I shouldn't have to for the price tag of these watches). The reason it gets me so much is - I had a Microsoft Band V1 and the BT range on that was incredible. Couldn't listen to music, I know that, but it was so good that when I was walking down the drive and the phone is charging in the kitchen - it would buzz me as I approached the house with notifications from the phone. This watch barely even knows the phone is in the same room, in my experience.
It's disappointing that if my phone or headphones are on my right side and my watch is on my left wrist, there's a struggle.
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100% get where you're coming from. I actually have to do that when I go out running (but I shouldn't have to for the price tag of these watches). The reason it gets me so much is - I had a Microsoft Band V1 and the BT range on that was incredible. Couldn't listen to music, I know that, but it was so good that when I was walking down the drive and the phone is charging in the kitchen - it would buzz me as I approached the house with notifications from the phone. This watch barely even knows the phone is in the same room, in my experience.
It's disappointing that if my phone or headphones are on my right side and my watch is on my left wrist, there's a struggle.
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FWIW, I've found the range on my 360 46mm to be quite on par with other BT devices I'd. I dunno is the sport has different placement of antenna or different materials around it that are blocking the signal perhaps??
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FWIW, I've found the range on my 360 46mm to be quite on par with other BT devices I'd. I dunno is the sport has different placement of antenna or different materials around it that are blocking the signal perhaps??
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Could be - maybe adding the GPS receiver has caused a problem...
Regarding the Bluetooth choppy playback I am not sure if it is Android Wear (software) related. Today I almost could not listen to music and putting my hands in my pockets almost broke playback. But as a test I changed the watch hand (from right to left) and I had no more issues with playback over Bluetooth. Can someone test if this helps?
Also to mention that Bluetooth choppyness happens only while tracking and outdoors.
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Regarding the Bluetooth choppy playback I am not sure if it is Android Wear (software) related. Today I almost could not listen to music and putting my hands in my pockets almost broke playback. But as a test I changed the watch hand (from right to left) and I had no more issues with playback over Bluetooth. Can someone test if this helps?
Also to mention that Bluetooth choppyness happens only while tracking and outdoors.
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Yeah that's what I'm getting too - but annoyed that's what I have to do to use the watch while running/listening to music. It's similar to the old Jobs meme "you're holding it wrong"
To solve the problem of BT connection, I have tried all the solutions proposed here including reinstalling Google Play Service and factory reset of smartwatch... nothing.
AT THE END, the problem was only in a well-known (except me) bug BT on the Note 3 with Lollipop (solved with an app).
Now I will try to reinstall watchface and app, but finally seems to work well.
Maybe it's already fixed??
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Yeah that's what I'm getting too - but annoyed that's what I have to do to use the watch while running/listening to music. It's similar to the old Jobs meme "you're holding it wrong"
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Acording to the 6.0.1 changelog: "We have introduced improvements that reduce the choppy audio when listening music through a Bluetooth headset while your watch is in motion, like when you are walking or working out" ... can anyone can confirm this?
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Acording to the 6.0.1 changelog: "We have introduced improvements that reduce the choppy audio when listening music through a Bluetooth headset while your watch is in motion, like when you are walking or working out" ... can anyone can confirm this?
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Did anybody indeed get the update? Nothing in Netherlands so far....
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Did anybody indeed get the update? Nothing in Netherlands so far....
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Ok, still choppy sound... maybe a little better than before, not sure, but not perfect yet
Just dropping in to let you all know it's not AW. No audio choppiness when running outdoors, tracking with GPS and listening to music on the LG watch Urbane 2 LTE, so it seems to be hardware related. Sorry
My Urbane has no problem keeping a BT connection with the phone ever, however I have to reconnect my BT headset with the watch every time i want to use them together, so this IS an AW issue.
Maybe the 360 antenna placement is causing this issue...
Hi everybody!
I just stumbled onto this website and I'm amazed to see how many things I can learn from you guys what to do with my watch. My Amazfit is new, updated, but after the battery dropped dead, I can't seem to access the Sleep, Steps, Compass, GPS, and Monitor.
I am really curious what can I do to make my watch work again, as I found it perfect to my all activities. The sleep function is really important for me as I'm fidgeting at night and I'm under mild medication to sort my problems. This watch was vital for me.
Thanks heaps for any help.
ps: I restarted a few times, I even reset it to factory settings. Every single time I restart it, I get an "Optimising App1, Total 1" message for a few minutes, then I can't access most of its function.
Cheers.
You can see only clockface? I've had that problem that Amazfit got stuck on one pericular watchface, had to change it via phone app, it took some time, and after restart everything was ok. Try that
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Thanks for your reply. It's not stuck on one single face, I can change them. The watch works fine apart from the fact that I can't access GPS, Monitor, Pace and Sleep. Even after restarting, unpairing n pairing, updating etc...
I think you're pretty much in the same boat as me. I'm still trying to figure it out for the past few month when I got into that problem as well. The only time it worked was few days ago, where I went and flashed the Pacified Rom, and back to 1.3.3a. It only worked for about a day or 2 before going back to the problem again. I suggest that since it's new, get it replaced as soon as possible. I've been trying to get mine replaced but my seller is ignoring me and Aliexpress is not much of help.
Isn't there any down/upgrade that would solve this situation?
I mean, I bought it from the same website, no warranty/refund available. That's a pity.
Do you have any tutorial on how you flashed the Pacified Room and back to 1.3.3.a?
Thanks a lot, Alex.
jules25 said:
Hi everybody!
I just stumbled onto this website and I'm amazed to see how many things I can learn from you guys what to do with my watch. My Amazfit is new, updated, but after the battery dropped dead, I can't seem to access the Sleep, Steps, Compass, GPS, and Monitor.
I am really curious what can I do to make my watch work again, as I found it perfect to my all activities. The sleep function is really important for me as I'm fidgeting at night and I'm under mild medication to sort my problems. This watch was vital for me.
Thanks heaps for any help.
ps: I restarted a few times, I even reset it to factory settings. Every single time I restart it, I get an "Optimising App1, Total 1" message for a few minutes, then I can't access most of its function.
Cheers.
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You could retry reinstall firmware perhaps...
Search here how to. (or update with newer firmware)
jules25 said:
Isn't there any down/upgrade that would solve this situation?
I mean, I bought it from the same website, no warranty/refund available. That's a pity.
Do you have any tutorial on how you flashed the Pacified Room and back to 1.3.3.a?
Thanks a lot, Alex.
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First you need to unlock the bootloader. To do that, you can have a look at it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/tutorial-unlock-bootloader-warning-void-t3654011
To flash the rom to PACEfied follow the link here. You could try the latest version .35, but that didn't work for me as I got stuck in the update loop despite using fastboot to continue, so I ended up using version .32. Instructions are all there
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/rom-pacefied-amazfit-huami-amazfit-t3539431
To flash it back to 1.3.3a, go through this link.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/tutorial-convert-xiaomi-huami-amazfit-t3532508
Currently trying to repeat the steps I did on how to get everything working minus the GPS running app. Now I'm at .29 of the Pacefied ROM. Waiting for my battery to be completely drain and wait a day before charging it and flash it back to 1.3.3a. Will let you know if it's a success or not.
I've come to a conclusion that this is related to hardware problems. Somehow even draining it for 3 days still didnt' do anything and now the battery doesn't even last up to a day.. Looks like we're pretty much unlucky to get these faulty units. Sad.
Hi Alex! My Amazfit is working fine now, I think by the greatest of coincidence. Let me tell you what happened.
Yesterday I ran out of battery and I chucked in the cradle in order to charge it, but I couldn't see any charging. Then I twisted, rotated and changed its position and nothing happened.
Then I realized the contact plates might be dirty. With a cotton bar and an alcohol pad, I cleaned them thoroughly and guess what, once I restarted the watch it works perfectly.
I'm not sure this is the reason or I've been lucky, but honestly speaking I'm afraid to restart it again. So I will keep charging it religiously avoiding any discharge. My other problem is that I need to get a new phone.
Would I be able to pair my new phone to Amazfit without "restarting to factory settings"?
Thanks.
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Hi Alex! My Amazfit is working fine now, I think by the greatest of coincidence. Let me tell you what happened.
Yesterday I ran out of battery and I chucked in the cradle in order to charge it, but I couldn't see any charging. Then I twisted, rotated and changed its position and nothing happened.
Then I realized the contact plates might be dirty. With a cotton bar and an alcohol pad, I cleaned them thoroughly and guess what, once I restarted the watch it works perfectly.
I'm not sure this is the reason or I've been lucky, but honestly speaking I'm afraid to restart it again. So I will keep charging it religiously avoiding any discharge. My other problem is that I need to get a new phone.
Would I be able to pair my new phone to Amazfit without "restarting to factory settings"?
Thanks.
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Sweet. I think I did something similar to clean the plate. But alas mine still doesn't work as we speak. I think restarting it is ok. But because I unpaired it with my phone, the watch went into factory reset that got me back to where it was not able to work. Maybe before you unpair with your current phone, on your new phone try logging in. If it's like the mi band 2, it should prompt you to pair via BT rather than QR code.
Hello there. From the first release day of Pocophone 1, this amazing device is the only one, that suits for my usage and needs.
I have two Poco F1 - both rooted, the first one is mine which runs official los, the second one is my little brother device, who's unfortunately yesterday he dropped on the ground. And here is the case:
The device is Indian version, 6/128 with NVT-ts panel, rooted, with stock miui, pie. After the accident, the phone survive and there is no SINGLE scratch, no screen cracks or similar, but ALL sounds gives error when I try to play them. YouTube starts with its stream buffering, but the video cannot start play, Spotify and SoundCloud gives me unplayable tracks, when dial or receive calls, the phone hangs and I must perform hard reboot to start this procedure again. But ALL games works flawlessly - CoD, PoGo, Wizards Unite etc. Messaging apps like Viber, WApp works too, but cannot perform calls. Proximity sensors works, IR cam works, 10 fingers test on the panel works too, the phone have full network 4g coverage, fast data bandwidth, WiFi works too. Temperatures of the phone is around 25-35 C
I opened the device, check every single cable, reconnect them and this mess is the same.
Additional info: the situation is the same, even with wired/ Bluetooth headphones - no sounds at all and hangs of the calls.
Later today, I'll upload pictures of the opened poco.
I'm open for ideas, how to revive this awesome phone.
Best regards to the coolest community!
I have same exact problem with my poco f1. Help!