Quick Charging - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers

I just wonder if a samsung charger can increase the speed of charging. I am on NITROGEN OS stock kernel.
I have the original charger, a samsung charger and an apple ipad charger.
Should i charge it with the apple one for faster charging? Or samsung ?

Try both. Use the one that charges it the quickest

Doesent make a diff, try radon or agni kernal for fast charging!
RootNightmareX said:
I just wonder if a samsung charger can increase the speed of charging. I am on NITROGEN OS stock kernel.
I have the original charger, a samsung charger and an apple ipad charger.
Should i charge it with the apple one for faster charging? Or samsung ?
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If you are using kenzo, although the chip supports fast charging, Xiaomi hasn't integrated the extra chips required for fast charging since its a budget phone but anyways u can use custom kernels like radon or agni to boost the charge time!! *USE THE KERNEL AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY HARM*
Like if I helped u, I'll appreciate that!

It's foolish to do so, you will end up harming battery due to heating

My battery always change very often when its charging from rapid charge to slow charge. Ane help?

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fast charge

is there any tw 4.4.2 kernel with fast charge ? my note 3 is charging very slow from usb ( dont want to bring the wall charger everywhere i go )
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inst1029 said:
is there any tw 4.4.2 kernel with fast charge ? my note 3 is charging very slow from usb ( dont want to bring the wall charger everywhere i go )
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't know fast charge was Kernel specific. Thought it had to do with the cable and plug in?
Any-ways, my two cents are no there is NOT.
With the fast charge app that looks like a battery it is kernel spefic. When u run the application it will either work or say kernel is not supported
The output of a typical computer USB port is a half an amp at five volts DC. If you get a charger, wall or cigarette plug, that is meant for an iPad, it will output 2.1 amps at five volts. It's best, for the battery life and phone, if you don't use a modded kernel for fast charging. Batteries last longer, overall life before replacing them, if they are slow charged. Heat from rapid charging will reduce the overall lifespan of a battery. I'm talking tech like in one hour or less chargers for AA batteries but it still holds true for lithium ion. Heat and hitting a battery hard with an aggressive charging circuit will kill a battery faster. My suggestion is to use a charger that has a max output of 2.1amps, like used with the stock and iPad chargers, to recharge the battery if you're impatient. Better yet, get an official Samsung external charger with battery so you can rotate batteries and have one charging or charged without forcing yourself to have the phone tethered to a charger often. There have been high profile instances where extended capacity batteries have burned up a phone, when charging, because the electronics of the battery were crap or the cells were of crappy quality. Be safe, be smart. Samsung OEM batteries might be expensive and low run time, but they won't usually cause a phone to go into meltdown mode because of their subpar electronics or cells.

Possible Charger Issue?

My Umi Z battery has expanded and so I replaced it. Others have reported the new battery fails again after about a month or so. Is it the charger? USB safety tester reports 12 v on my charger! Could members test their charger as this might be the source of the battery expansion and poor performance issue? EDIT - friends charger reports 5v.
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
doiiido said:
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
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Thanks

Slow Charging and charging stops

Hello,
I have a 2gb version kenzo, i have used many roms and at the moment the best i can find for my device is the XIAOMI.eu MIUI 9. It doesn't crash all the time, specially on apps like snapchat, but there is a problem. It charges very very slow, like 400~ma at maximum, and it just stops charging after a while, and i have to unplug and plug the charger again. The battery doesnt get hot. I am using an official qualcomm quickcharger 3.0 with a good quality cable, and i can easily achieve 2500~ma acording to ampere while charging with roms like nitrogen os, lineage, RR, and with RADON 6.1 on this xiaomi.eu rom, but when i install Radon kernel my phone crashes a lot on some apps, and even scrolling through the menus. Is there any way to "fix" this with a flashable zip like with only the needed code, over the MIUI eu Rom to fix the charging issue?
Thanks in advance.
xXSantyXx said:
Hello,
I have a 2gb version kenzo, i have used many roms and at the moment the best i can find for my device is the XIAOMI.eu MIUI 9. It doesn't crash all the time, specially on apps like snapchat, but there is a problem. It charges very very slow, like 400~ma at maximum, and it just stops charging after a while, and i have to unplug and plug the charger again. The battery doesnt get hot. I am using an official qualcomm quickcharger 3.0 with a good quality cable, and i can easily achieve 2500~ma acording to ampere while charging with roms like nitrogen os, lineage, RR, and with RADON 6.1 on this xiaomi.eu rom, but when i install Radon kernel my phone crashes a lot on some apps, and even scrolling through the menus. Is there any way to "fix" this with a flashable zip like with only the needed code, over the MIUI eu Rom to fix the charging issue?
Thanks in advance.
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U should connect ur phone directly to transformer if u want 100amps. It will charge ur device very quickly.
Now lets get serious. U saying u r using QC3 charger. And u get 2500ma. Before using i advise u to read specs of kenzo.
The device is made to take max current 2A. Its QC 1.0 compatible. It can take upto 5V2A safely. If u think by using QC charger it can support higher current and take less time then u r wrong. It may take high current but it just converting it into lot of heat. Its not helping. And just deterioting ur battery.
Dont use tweaked custom kernels and select higher current option for charging. There is safety diode on charging board which is meant to take max 5v and 2A. QC chargers are made to run in variable voltage. So if ur charger drawing more than 5v then ur diode will blow and prevent further charging to protect ur device. Min charging time for kenzo is 2hr 10 min. It cant be shortened more than this even if u go for high power.
I suggest u to stick to default charger which operates in 5v2A. Kenzo dont support qc2or qc3 and dont have components to take high voltage current. Many people have used QC charger and ended up in service center and replaced charging board.
naik2902 said:
U should connect ur phone directly to transformer if u want 100amps. It will charge ur device very quickly.
Now lets get serious. U saying u r using QC3 charger. And u get 2500ma. Before using i advise u to read specs of kenzo.
The device is made to take max current 2A. Its QC 1.0 compatible. It can take upto 5V2A safely. If u think by using QC charger it can support higher current and take less time then u r wrong. It may take high current but it just converting it into lot of heat. Its not helping. And just deterioting ur battery.
Dont use tweaked custom kernels and select higher current option for charging. There is safety diode on charging board which is meant to take max 5v and 2A. QC chargers are made to run in variable voltage. So if ur charger drawing more than 5v then ur diode will blow and prevent further charging to protect ur device. Min charging time for kenzo is 2hr 10 min. It cant be shortened more than this even if u go for high power.
I suggest u to stick to default charger which operates in 5v2A. Kenzo dont support qc2or qc3 and dont have components to take high voltage current. Many people have used QC charger and ended up in service center and replaced charging board.
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Thank you for all the information. I have been using this charger for quite a lot, and o noticed that my battery life isnt as good as it was, but i still get like 7h of SOT which is note than enough for me. I dont know where i have my original charger anymore, but i will try to use it. I stopped using it simply because it has chinese plug and its kinda bulky to carry with the adapter.
Best regards.
xXSantyXx said:
Thank you for all the information. I have been using this charger for quite a lot, and o noticed that my battery life isnt as good as it was, but i still get like 7h of SOT which is note than enough for me. I dont know where i have my original charger anymore, but i will try to use it. I stopped using it simply because it has chinese plug and its kinda bulky to carry with the adapter.
Best regards.
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I had qc3.0 charger by tronsmart. I threw it in river. My safety diode of 2 charging boards blown in a week coz of qc charger. Phone heated like furnace and It stopped charging in a week. So i read somewhere in a xda thread how to restore it. Then i opened phone and scratched and removed the diode from the board with tiny screwdriver. since then I am charging with stock charger again coz diode removed and device need safe and constant voltage. No problem since a year.
I think Only Redmi note 5 pro have Qc2.0 enabled in redmi note series. To charge a device with QC mechanism phone should have a set of charging components and cpu should support it. Our device CPU supports QC but dont have additional QC charging components.
Safety diode is meant to keep voltage constant and within limit below 5v for our device. Use of QC charger draws higher voltage and overheats the diode.
And if it crosses above 5.5 v then it short circuits the diode and the diode prevents further charging and finally stops the charging to protect the mainboard. If u want to save ur phone and battery for long term then use stock charger.

Voltage drops during charging / slow charging

I am facing slow charging issues with QC 3.0 even after flashing Kernel (Radon Rebuild 6.3). I selected 2400 ma quick but even after that I get like 300~400 ma even lower then my stock which gives like 500~600 ma the thing I have noticed that when I plug my QC charger I get around 2000~1500 ma (voltage 4.0+) for like a min then it eventually falls to 300 with voltage around 3.6 v and never spikes up again
Should I replace my charging board or just my device is getting old?
Rom : Havoc
Device : Kenzo 3/32
Kernel : Radon Rebuild
It can be a problem related to overheat of charging ic. It happens to me when i use stock charger. At 5v 2ah, phone heats up to 45 celsius degrees. If i use fast charger, at 9.1v and 1.6 ah the phone is cooler and keeps charging at fast speed almost all the time. Depends on ehat temperature i have in room or where i place the phone during charging.
Ostroveni said:
It can be a problem related to overheat of charging ic. It happens to me when i use stock charger. At 5v 2ah, phone heats up to 45 celsius degrees. If i use fast charger, at 9.1v and 1.6 ah the phone is cooler and keeps charging at fast speed almost all the time. Depends on ehat temperature i have in room or where i place the phone during charging.
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But for me the temp.. Never rises up it just maintains 35~37 c
Ok. Your problems seems to be with thermal libs. When you flash radon kernel choose "OLD THERMAL LIBS" in installation screen. If problem remain same then try Latest Agni kernel (which has updated thermal libs) and see problem is still there.
And BTW, Just giving you one suggestion. Never use QC 3.0, It will burn your USB Board specially zener diode. That will end up yo to replace whole USB Board and if you are lucky then you might find perfect replacement from market otherwise there are so many cheap parts available that has poor performance.
P.S- I have burnt my board by using QC 2.0 charger and now new USB board giving me network issues (no network or very less internet speed now). And here you are using QC 3.0 that is more dangerous. Use latest Agni, devs added security against QC chargers and it use max 2100-2200 ma current. (Believe me this is sufficient to quick charge your device)
Apcoolboy said:
Ok. Your problems seems to be with thermal libs. When you flash radon kernel choose "OLD THERMAL LIBS" in installation screen. If problem remain same then try Latest Agni kernel (which has updated thermal libs) and see problem is still there.
And BTW, Just giving you one suggestion. Never use QC 3.0, It will burn your USB Board specially zener diode. That will end up yo to replace whole USB Board and if you are lucky then you might find perfect replacement from market otherwise there are so many cheap parts available that has poor performance.
P.S- I have burnt my board by using QC 2.0 charger and now new USB board giving me network issues (no network or very less internet speed now). And here you are using QC 3.0 that is more dangerous. Use latest Agni, devs added security against QC chargers and it use max 2100-2200 ma current. (Believe me this is sufficient to quick charge your device)
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Thanks for replying I will flash agni latest and will update the result asap and will also check my USB board to check for a short circuit ?
Potato.Ninja said:
Thanks for replying I will flash agni latest and will update the result asap and will also check my USB board to check for a short circuit ?
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If you ever get short-circuit, The first thing will be your device will stop charging. Also signs of short-circuit are connecting and disconnecting your device frequently, Whatever kernel or charger you use it always charge at very low speed. (these what I felt before my diode completely died)
Potato.Ninja said:
I am facing slow charging issues with QC 3.0 even after flashing Kernel (Radon Rebuild 6.3). I selected 2400 ma quick but even after that I get like 300~400 ma even lower then my stock which gives like 500~600 ma the thing I have noticed that when I plug my QC charger I get around 2000~1500 ma (voltage 4.0+) for like a min then it eventually falls to 300 with voltage around 3.6 v and never spikes up again
Should I replace my charging board or just my device is getting old?
Rom : Havoc
Device : Kenzo 3/32
Kernel : Radon Rebuild
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Dont use QC 3.0 . kenzo has some board issues. Qc2 or Qc3 is backward compatible but incase of kenzo Board is not completely safe to regulate safe current.
If u use qc2 or Qc 3 . it will draw too high current and burn the zener diode and stop the charging.
If ur device is not charging or taking low current then that means zener diode is already burnt. So remove the diode and use only stock charger. And dont use 2400 amp option in custom kernels.
My device stopped charging when i used qc3. I removed both the diode. but now its charging very slow.(around 150-200 amps), then it goes to 0 and does not charge. but it charges slowly upto 30% or so when the mobile is switched off. The discharge rate is normal as before. I tried using agni kernel and toggled the options between old kernel and new kernel libs and also the charging levels. can anyone suggest me about how to solve to solve this problem.
karnal.girish said:
My device stopped charging when i used qc3. I removed both the diode. but now its charging very slow.(around 150-200 amps), then it goes to 0 and does not charge. but it charges slowly upto 30% or so when the mobile is switched off. The discharge rate is normal as before. I tried using agni kernel and toggled the options between old kernel and new kernel libs and also the charging levels. can anyone suggest me about how to solve to solve this problem.
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Why u removed both?
Only charging board diode needed to remove. After that dont use Qc3 to further harm mainboard diode.
But May be u kept on charging with QC3 even after both diode removed and damaged mainboard charging parts.
Try with many diffrent 2A usb cable. Stick with stock kernel. If still not charging then change pcb board.

Can I Use Standard Samsung Charger on Xiaomi Note 10 Lite?

Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
Update: I have been charging 'Mi Note 10 lite' with Samsung Standard Charger (1.55A 5V) but the charger is getting too... hot, not sure whether its affecting battery life (battery is not getting hot) though.
NexusAd said:
Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
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Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
ParaSense. said:
Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
NexusAd said:
Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
ParaSense. said:
volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
NexusAd said:
Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Less volts can't harm.. Laptop batteries are fragile and they die after 2-3 years.. To live longer you have to remove it from laptop when you are not using it (the battery if charger is plugged)
+1 TO ABOVE, won't be issues. Worst case scenario charger may die, not the phone battery.

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