My Umi Z battery has expanded and so I replaced it. Others have reported the new battery fails again after about a month or so. Is it the charger? USB safety tester reports 12 v on my charger! Could members test their charger as this might be the source of the battery expansion and poor performance issue? EDIT - friends charger reports 5v.
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
doiiido said:
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
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Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
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Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
blackinfinity said:
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.
Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
I even use the original cable where my phone shows super charging when I use the cable with the original charger.
Any advice on this?
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Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
I even use the original cable where my phone shows super charging when I use the cable with the original charger.
Any advice on this?
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P10 is not QC 3.0, they use another system called supercharger. I think.
kevinspencer said:
Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
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P10 is not QC 3.0, they use another system called supercharger. I think.
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This is basically correct. The P10/P10+ (& all the P9/Mate9 etc variants before it) do not use Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology (QC2.0/QC3.0 etc). They use Huawei's own "FCP Fast Charging" technology in 2 variations... Fast (9V2A) and Super (4.5V5A) charging.
Certainly for mains wall chargers, you can only use Huawei's own branded chargers at the moment (the Super charger one that comes with the P10 or Fast charger ones available from various places online)
For portable batteries (Power Banks), until quite recently, only the Huawei/Honor 10000mAh Power Bank would Fast charge the P9/P10 etc ( https://www.vmall.eu/uk/huawei-10000mah-quick-charge-power-bank-black-ap08q-299470/) , however it appears that the Tronsmart Presto 10000mAh Power Bank ( http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank ) will now also Fast charge as well. There are no Super charging Power Banks yet available.
The only Fast/Super car charger currently available is again Huawei's own... http://consumer.huawei.com/ae-en/mobile-phones/mate9/html/Accessory.htm
If you use a Qualcomm charger/Power Bank you'll only get, at most, a 5V2A charging rate, considerably slower than Fast or Super rates although certainly not that slow.
I hate using fast chargers for built in battery, batteries degrade faster, I am using my old samsung note 2 adapter with a good quality china cable with a type C adapter, although not fast charging, the charging rate is consider faster than most phones I used.
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I hate using fast chargers for built in battery, batteries degrade faster, I am using my old samsung note 2 adapter with a good quality china cable with a type C adapter, although not fast charging, the charging rate is consider faster than most phones I used.
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Old thread, but hey.
I used my Note 4 with fast charging for 2+ years now.
Battery barely degraded.
(I bought a new battery from Samsung, and well, I realized that battery life indeed was horrible since forever on this device.)
Thing is, batteries die after certain recharges and time. No matter how slow you charge your new S8+ for example, it will need a battery replacement by Samsung after 2-3 years.
Fast charge is also only used (any brand) if the battery can take it.
I have original huawei powerbank 10000mAh. I charge my P10 with original usb cable. P10 show "quick charge". When i use non original usb cable then show "charging normal".
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Try reading through the thread.
Is there something on the market already with Super Charge capabilities?
read through the thread.
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Is there something on the market already with Super Charge capabilities?
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kms108 said:
read through the thread.
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Actually, there is now a Supercharge Power Bank which has only recently been released... the 10000mAh AP09S... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...pe-C-Cables-for-Huawei-Smart/32828182598.html
And for those wanting a bit more capacity, also relatively new is the 20000mAh AP20Q, but this is only Fast Charging, not Super... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...i-Portable-Charger-AP20Q-for/32826275887.html
Not tried either of them and they're not cheap, but if they're anything like the quality of my 10000mAh AP08Q then they'll be worth it.
AP20Q
colthekid said:
Actually, there is now a Supercharge Power Bank which has only recently been released... the 10000mAh AP09S... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...pe-C-Cables-for-Huawei-Smart/32828182598.html
And for those wanting a bit more capacity, also relatively new is the 20000mAh AP20Q, but this is only Fast Charging, not Super... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...i-Portable-Charger-AP20Q-for/32826275887.html
Not tried either of them and they're not cheap, but if they're anything like the quality of my 10000mAh AP08Q then they'll be worth it.
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I have the AP20Q and it's certainly worth it. Charges my P10+ from nothing to full in about an hour, and gives me about 40% after 15 mins. . its a tad heavy at 374g, but 100% a life saver! BTW... Added bonus, it comes with a small thin 30cm USBA => C charging cable that also supports fastcharge on mmy P10
Hi guys.
Which is it better for p10?
1. LDNIO C701Q
2. LDNIO C304Q
daranian said:
Hi guys.
Which is it better for p10?
1. LDNIO C701Q
2. LDNIO C304Q
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Neither to be honest, they're Qualcomm quick chargers, you'll only get standard 5V2A charging out of them not fast (9V2A) or super (5V4.5A) charging.
colthekid said:
Neither to be honest, they're Qualcomm quick chargers, you'll only get standard 5V2A charging out of them not fast (9V2A) or super (5V4.5A) charging.
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Thought i can not supercharging my p10 with neither chargers!
Which model you advise?
Excuse me for my poor English ?
daranian said:
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Thought i can not supercharging my p10 with neither chargers!
Which model you advise?
Excuse me for my poor English
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The only car charger which will Super charge the P10 is the Huawei AP38.
Don't know what country you're in, but this is the link for Amazon UK https://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-Super-Charge-Charger-Cable-Black/dp/B06XQTYRC4
also available on other sites... Aliexpress for example... https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...A-1M-5A-Type-C-Quick/1239378_32799838750.html
or search google for Huawei AP38 for sites near you.
Your english is fine! :good:
Blitzwolf BW-S9 mains charger supports FCP.
Sounds like chargers with one of these tech might be able to fast charge the Huawei (Power IQ / Ai Power / Smart Technology / VoltiQ / iSmart 2.0) at 9V 2A.
For instance i have the Aukey QC 3.0 car charger that seems to have AI power and it fast charges by Honor V 10.
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charger-Charge-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B01KZHKF4I
I have a QC 3 wall charger from Aukey and a Easy ACC power bank also with QC3.0 but neither of these fast charge my phone.
I bought the Huawei AP08Q. Feels like great build quality.
I have a P10 and when charging my P10 with my AP08Q I don't get the "green light" that is supposed to show up if I quick charge.
How do I know if it's fast charging my P10 or not? Any way to check my phone to see that?
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I bought the Huawei AP08Q. Feels like great build quality.
I have a P10 and when charging my P10 with my AP08Q I don't get the "green light" that is supposed to show up if I quick charge.
How do I know if it's fast charging my P10 or not? Any way to check my phone to see that?
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2 lightning bolts next to or inside the battery icon.
Xiaomi 2C 20000 FCP works
I confirm that Xiaomi 2C 20000mah power bank supports FCP as stated in it's specs. Works with my Huawei Mate 9 in fast charge mode.
You can't go wrong with it with it's price of 25$ and weight of 350g.
Hi!
I have a doubt, these type of USB-C --> USB-C charger can charge the S8+ quickly than the original charger provided with the device?
http://www.sony.com.sg/electronics/portable-charger-accessories/cp-ad3
I know that S8+ is not use the USB-C charging protocols and use Samsung AFC, because this my doubt if buying this will be a improve or only a waster of money.
Thanks!
I doubt that charger will be any faster than the Samsung provided charger.
Thanks, I get one to make some test. I install the Ampere app, I don´t know if this app is a nice measure tool, but is almost the same that original charger, also a bit faster. Original in test charger session show in the Ampere app a max of 990mA, and this Sony 1020-1100mA on different sessions on both.
I'm cool with the stock charger. I'm not trying to make my phone explode and burn my house down. I'll stick with Samsung's recommendation. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.
Original Samsung charger will charge your device at 9v whereas the Sony charger will only charge at 5v, however the new USB c standard allows 3A charging so the power you get from both chargers will be very similar. I use both types of charger and find it hard to find much difference in charge times. Ampere can't be used accurately as it's only showing the charge current not voltage and you need both to calculate power and compare the 2 accurately.
I have htc 10 charger s8 charger and transmort QC3.0. When i charge my phone with those i only get normal charging. Whick charger should i get to fast charge it.
osama bhatti0 said:
I have htc 10 charger s8 charger and transmort QC3.0. When i charge my phone with those i only get normal charging. Whick charger should i get to fast charge it.
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Use fast charger provided by Huawei. its kirin chipset, so QC will not work.
Aren't all chargers that are 2 amps "fast chargers"?
The 1 amp chargers are the slow ones.
Or is there more to it?
I tried charging with an original Huawei charger. It charges MUCH quicker, compared to a 2 amp apple charger.
Strange.. I guess they have some sort of chip inside that tells the phone it is original?
There are different types of fast charging. Qualcomm Quick Chargers won't work properly in our devices, since the chip is Kirin (and not e.g. Snapdragon).
There are restrictions in each chipset that tell how much "juice" they can take and how "fast" they can handle it.
It's best to always use the charger provided by Huawei.
Charging and chargers is not as simple as "the more it gives the faster my phone will charge"
Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
Serecomputing said:
Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
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I AM USING XIAOMI 18 WATT POWER BANK WITH ORIGINAL XIAOMI CABLE AND I ALSO BOUGHT 50 WATT POWER BANK SO I CAN CHARGE MY DEVICE AT 33 WATT WITH 50 WATT Xiaomi POWERBANK COZ IT SUPPORTMax 33 watt charging and whenever i play games i use 18 watt powerbank to charge so it reduces heat.. . I didn’t face any issue …but never use fast charging while playing high graphics demanding games.sometimes while playing games if battery low then i use 18 watt powerbank to charge while play…
yeah thanks for the reply.
sometimes, in the case of need, I will use the fast charger otherwise I will always go with standard 5v 2A charger.