Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
Serecomputing said:
Hi Guys,
I know we always have to use the default charger but this is also a fact that the fast charger is not always good for the phone's battery life. We can use it sometimes when we are really required fast charging.
I have a Xiaomi original charger 5V, 2A. I use to charge my device 20-80% with this charger. My phone will not get heat up like it compared to the situation when I charge with a fast charger.
Please tell me, is there any problem if I'm not using the default charger that comes in the box with the phone? I'm using that cable but with the Xiaomi slow standard charger. Will it be safe for both the phone and charger?
Thanks,
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I AM USING XIAOMI 18 WATT POWER BANK WITH ORIGINAL XIAOMI CABLE AND I ALSO BOUGHT 50 WATT POWER BANK SO I CAN CHARGE MY DEVICE AT 33 WATT WITH 50 WATT Xiaomi POWERBANK COZ IT SUPPORTMax 33 watt charging and whenever i play games i use 18 watt powerbank to charge so it reduces heat.. . I didn’t face any issue …but never use fast charging while playing high graphics demanding games.sometimes while playing games if battery low then i use 18 watt powerbank to charge while play…
yeah thanks for the reply.
sometimes, in the case of need, I will use the fast charger otherwise I will always go with standard 5v 2A charger.
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Hi guys. i am going to buy this device(non dual) and i saw some comments about device's chargin speed. They say it charges very slow and it drains pretty quick. i wondered if i can use 2A charger to make it quick or does it use 2A or 1A charger? Cause i dont want to wait longer until it fulfills the battery. I got 2A charger from my old phone.
some 2A chargers charge faster but some don't ,i dont know why .the device come with 850mah charger that takes about 4 hours for full charge
I'm currently using a genuine Samsung Travel charger that gives out 2.1a fast charge output. I can fully charge my C5 Ultra in around 2 hours...
I saw a charger from sony that it is 2.1A but they say it damages the device. I know that it will possibly hurt battery life so does it worth it?
My Umi Z battery has expanded and so I replaced it. Others have reported the new battery fails again after about a month or so. Is it the charger? USB safety tester reports 12 v on my charger! Could members test their charger as this might be the source of the battery expansion and poor performance issue? EDIT - friends charger reports 5v.
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
doiiido said:
As I said in the umidigi forum:
The fast charger will make your phone's battery life shorter. Since I bought my z pro I had used my fast charger only for emergency situations, normally I use a 2A standard charger for Samsung phones (3h untill full).
If you read about the fast charger (Pump express) you'll notice that it pumps more power by operating at 9v and 12v.
Best regards,
Lincoln.
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Hey, is it safe to use original 45W Samsung charger daily? Got it for nice price ($25) from friend's shop.
I read somewhere it's not recommend to use 45W. Also I read S20+ supports 25W only.
Thank you for answers.
It is safe to use the charger but I am not sure if it will be able to charge it at 25W also.
So if I will use 45W, charging will be the same as with original charger?
Tried it, remaining time to fully charged is showing the same with both chargers.
RenikSK said:
So if I will use 45W, charging will be the same as with original charger?
Tried it, remaining time to fully charged is showing the same with both chargers.
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I have the 45w charger. Charging speed depends on the phone temperature. The phone slows down the charging when phone temperature gets high. It's marginally faster than the one that came with the phone. But it's super fast charging for the first 30 minutes or so compared to our of the box.
So i use the 45w charger at office when I need to charge the phone fast and seldom fully charge it as I would unplug it and go somewhere else.
At home I just plug in the charger that came with the phone for overnight charging. Perhaps not the best to leave it charging overnight but I need a full battery next day.
Even if the charger provides 45w, the phone will only pull what is needed from the charger itself. So if the phone limits itself to 25w, then thats all it will use from the charge available.
Equally, if the charge provided is lower than the maximum the phone can use (i.e. 25w phone but 15w charger), then it will use the maximum from the charge available.
Chargers these days offer a multitude of different voltages and amp ratings, but they are smart and will only send what is requested by the device that is plugged in so there's no chance of accidental over-voltage.
I too have the 45W samsung travel charger and did a comparison on power draw compared to the 25W charger that is included with the phone. I used both the USB C cable that came with the phone (Black) and the thicker cable that came with the 45W charger (White), while measuring the power draw using a power consumption meter that was plugged into the wall between the charger and the outlet. My phone was at 40% charge when I tested. The results are shocking.
Included 25W charger
Phone's Black cable - 27.9 W
Charger's White cable - 27.2 W
Samsung 45W travel charger
Phone's Black cable - 29.7 W
Charger's White cable - 31.3 W
The similar power draw explains the charging speed difference of 10 minutes which many reviewers on youtube have observed. Taking another step, I have read that the S20 Ultra requires the charger to support PPS to achieve (10V, 4.5A) in order to charge at 45W. So why does the 45W travel charger only support (15V, 3A), (20V, 2.25A), (3.3-11V, 4.05A), (3.3-16V, 2.8A) and (3.3-21V, 2.1A)? Even the best case scenario would be to use the (3.3-11V, 4.05A) PPS profile and set it to (10V, 4.05A) to give only 40.5W. I smell a rat.
Interesting. I have also measured power draw but my results are bit diferent.
45W charger was getting up to 41W for 4 mins.
On overall charging speed 0-100% the diference is 10mins, but after charging 20mins I'm getting 54% on 45W and 37% on stock.
17% in 20mins it's a lot of difference.
45W is slowing down up to 1A after that to cool down the phone. 25w have similar behaviour.
Baseus 65W PPS chargers triggers SFC 2.0 but it takes more than 2h to charge fully. Amperage is oscilating as hell.
my Huawei 65w laptop Charger charges my S20U much quicker than the 25w charger i find...
krogoth said:
Interesting. I have also measured power draw but my results are bit diferent.
45W charger was getting up to 41W for 4 mins.
On overall charging speed 0-100% the diference is 10mins, but after charging 20mins I'm getting 54% on 45W and 37% on stock.
17% in 20mins it's a lot of difference.
45W is slowing down up to 1A after that to cool down the phone. 25w have similar behaviour.
Baseus 65W PPS chargers triggers SFC 2.0 but it takes more than 2h to charge fully. Amperage is oscilating as hell.
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I have been continuously testing and found that if your phone has less than 30% battery and the battery temperature is under 33 ºC, it will charge at 40W. After that, it drops to 30W for the remainder of the charge and then drop again to 20W when the battery is above 80%.
Next step is to find a good battery data logging app which logs battery percentage, battery temperature, charging current and time. Surprising to find that not many apps can do this. Even the Battery Charging Monitor app doesn't log all that data.
Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
Update: I have been charging 'Mi Note 10 lite' with Samsung Standard Charger (1.55A 5V) but the charger is getting too... hot, not sure whether its affecting battery life (battery is not getting hot) though.
NexusAd said:
Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
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Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
ParaSense. said:
Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
NexusAd said:
Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
ParaSense. said:
volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
NexusAd said:
Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Less volts can't harm.. Laptop batteries are fragile and they die after 2-3 years.. To live longer you have to remove it from laptop when you are not using it (the battery if charger is plugged)
+1 TO ABOVE, won't be issues. Worst case scenario charger may die, not the phone battery.
As far as i know Mi A3 supports fast charging but my Mi A3 only shows rapidly charging even when connected to a fast charger ? Is it just my unit ?
Simran62 said:
As far as i know Mi A3 supports fast charging but my Mi A3 only shows rapidly charging even when connected to a fast charger ? Is it just my unit ?
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It supports 18w quick charge 3.0.
So preferably use a quick charge 3.0 charging brick
I have tried 18 watt and 33 watt as well but still rapidly charging
Simran62 said:
I have tried 18 watt and 33 watt as well but still rapidly charging
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Cannot understand your English, Mate
If you are using fast chargers, of course it will show fast charging
This battery charges very quick, even on a 10W=5V x 2A
I use the laptop USB and that charges quick also
Does anyone know if its safe to trickle charge your phone?
ollie2012 said:
Cannot understand your English, Mate
If you are using fast chargers, of course it will show fast charging
This battery charges very quick, even on a 10W=5V x 2A
I use the laptop USB and that charges quick also
Does anyone know if its safe to trickle charge your phone?
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When connected to a 12w or a 10w charger the phone shows rapidly charging, but i have tried 18 and 33 watt chargers as well, but still the phone shows rapidly charging
Simran62 said:
When connected to a 12w or a 10w charger the phone shows rapidly charging, but i have tried 18 and 33 watt chargers as well, but still the phone shows rapidly charging
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Download an app like ampere from the playstore and check the charging values with the different chargers. It will more than likely say rapidly charging for anything above 5v 2a charging which is quick charge 2.0 but this device also supports quick charge 3.0
garylawwd said:
Download an app like ampere from the playstore and check the charging values with the different chargers. It will more than likely say rapidly charging for anything above 5v 2a charging which is quick charge 2.0 but this device also supports quick charge 3.0
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Showing 1900ma when connected to a 18w charger, is it charging fast ?
Simran62 said:
Showing 1900ma when connected to a 18w charger, is it charging fast ?
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If it's 9v then yes. If it's charging 5v and 2a then its not fast charging like it should.
Check the voltage also.
Basic maths; to get Watts (w) multiple the current (amps) x voltage (v).
So if it is charging at 1.9a like you say it should have a voltage ~9v
garylawwd said:
If it's 9v then yes. If it's charging 5v and 2a then its not fast charging like it should.
Check the voltage also.
Basic maths; to get Watts (w) multiple the current (amps) x voltage (v).
So if it is charging at 1.9a like you say it should have a voltage ~9v
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Then i guess it was charging fast, thanks man
what values did you get on the 33W, is it advisable to overcook your battery?
Btw, have not really pushed this battery yet, charging be 40-80 %
ollie2012 said:
what values did you get on the 33W, is it advisable to overcook your battery?
Btw, have not really pushed this battery yet, charging be 40-80 %
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It doesn't work like that. Your device has protection built in to avoid overcharging and too much current from frying everything. The max your device will charge is 18w and no more