As of Feb. 8/9 of 2017, it looks to me like my Tablet S, which came with 4.0.3 is no longer able to run Google apps. The tablet is still fine for other things, but the Chrome browser is on version 42 and can't be updated. Kinda sucks that one day it works, and the next it doesn't. It is still a fine tablet but much less useful to me without the Google apps. Some can still run in the browser, but it certainly is not as handy.
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
m4q said:
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
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Thanks for the reply. My belief is the Chrome browser cannot be updated on the version of Android it is running. That would mean to me that any other device running 4.0.3 is running Chrome 42, also, and nothing can be done. Sure would like to be wrong. I have plenty of options (toys), but I hate losing normal functions on an otherwise functional machine. It is 5 years old.
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
m4q said:
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
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I would bet I am correct, but...see which version of Android and the browser you are running and compare to what I reported. I was told the browser was no longer updateable with 4.0.3. The fact that it happened just as Google was announcing its new products is what led me to this conclusion.
You can still watch YouTube through the browser on your STS. I had mine on my bedstand with the dock so that I could watch in bed via Google Cast. Cast will not work because of this issue, even in the browser, because it is a newer app. So, I replaced it with my Nexus 7 2012, which also has a dock. Works fine, as would a phone or tablet.
These are my conclusions - if you find otherwise, please report back! :good:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Not disagreeing. Just saying that if the browser can't be updated, then apps can't be either, perhaps for the reasons you state. Sorry for the confusion. I think we're looking at the same thing from different perspectives. Either way, I think the STS is de-Googled. It is a shame as I think it has been a really good machine for its specs. Time to repurpose it or just put it away.
Sad, but true . STS had its quirks, but it has been with me longer than any other equipment.
I won't hold my breath, but maybe next Google Play Services update or some other update could fix this issue. I'll let you know if I find something.
Cheers.
I got out another Android tablet (an Asus 2 in 1) that I was thinking of repurposing and found it had Android 4.0.3 and Google Play Services 10.2.98. There is no access to Google apps except the Play Store and the Chrome browser. I forgot to check which browser number it was but if I had to guess, it is 42. Since I had not been using it, I don't know when this access was taken away, but I'd think it was the same timeframe as the STS.
There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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Thanks for the info! I will keep looking at the various sites to see if a fix for the Tegra devices comes out, but I'm not counting on it. Again, everything by Google but the Chrome browser and the Play Store seem to be affected, so the main reason I use Google is gone for two devices. If it isn't a Google app, they do work. YouTube works in the browser, but not Cast, etc. Hulu works.
I have other tablets and phones that have ARM processors, so I don't need to buy anything, but it is disappointing that they screwed up two good Google devices I have, one being in use everyday until it happened. That reminds me, I have a Chromebook with a Tegra chip - I'll have to check on that...updating from 59..0.2924.87 to...56.0.2924.110 - no problems. This is a Samsung XE303C12.
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Agreed, the 10.5.42 beta works on my Asus TF101 and my Sony Tablet S, both having Android 4.0.3.
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The "upgrade" of Market to Play Store was not smooth on my two Sony devices:
Tablet S and Xperia phones.
The connection was lost occasionally in the beginning dates, and finally, it was restored on my Xperia phones.
However, connection to "Market/Play Store" server went dead on my Tablet S totally since yesterday. So I
(i) uninstalled updates of "Market/Play Store" to return it to "Market" -> no use; then
(ii) suspecting something wrong with my machine, so I decided to perform a "Factory Reset". (That took me the whole afternoon to restore apps from backup... panic...). Yet, it is still dead, only leaving the message "Server error, Retry" at the centre.
(iii) I even install Play Store 3.4.7 and 3.5.15 app downloaded here somewhere to see if that makes any difference. The answer is still a big NO.
Any suggestion? Wifi connection to all other websites are fine without problem. All other app accounts are now reconnected. This "factory reset" gives me another problem that some of my purchased apps are now denying me from use, as my "Market/Play Store" account is not activated on this Tablet S.
Is this a general Tablet S issue or I need to find Sony to fix the hardware? Please kindly advise. Many thanks!
I don't have such problem, suggest to send it back to Sony to check and fix.
login your google talk app and then try
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Thanks but not work. Log in to talk ok.
I can't believe that the problem cased regarding a hardware problem.
I guess it could be a problem with your Google account.
You could double check it with a other or new Google account.
(ask a friend or create a new one)
If it works well with a new/other account, I would contact the Google support to check and/or repair your main account.
obicom said:
I can't believe that the problem cased regarding a hardware problem.
I guess it could be a problem with your Google account.
You could double check it with a other or new Google account.
(ask a friend or create a new one)
If it works well with a new/other account, I would contact the Google support to check and/or repair your main account.
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I agree with you that I don't think this could be a HW problem. That's why I posted my question here to see if this is a common issue. I contacted Sony Support Live Chat and apparently this is not a common case, at least in US. My Tablet S was purchased in HK, so the chat could not end up with any solution, but suggesting me to seek for an upper level of support in HK. In fact, I am about to take it to the Sony Service this morning.
The good news is after three days of struggling and Factory Data Resetting (a total of three times! very painful to restore things each time...), strange thing happened just now that the "Market" connection returned, for no reason. After downloaded/installed a couple of app updates, "Market" then was upgraded to "Play Store". Things seems working fine now... Hope the regional Google finally have this resolved...
Many thanks again for your patience and suggestion!
Android Central had a post that stated Google issued a fix for the Google Play Movie app.
It doesn't mention any specific issues, but if one app was having issues, at least they caught it and fixed it quickly. Probably had something to do with the quick fix of the overall Market (fine Play store).
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-movies-updated-sony-and-archos-tablet-crashes-fixed
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Android Central had a post that stated Google issued a fix for the Google Play Movie app.
It doesn't mention any specific issues, but if one app was having issues, at least they caught it and fixed it quickly. Probably had something to do with the quick fix of the overall Market (fine Play store).
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-movies-updated-sony-and-archos-tablet-crashes-fixed
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Yes, that might be a related issue. The curious thing, however, is it seems I am the only one to experience this... very interesting...
BTW, I need to further that I still have problem in buying apps using my Tablet S (Hong Kong version). I would receive this message most of the time:
"The item that you were attempting to purchase could not be found." Don't know if anyone here had similar experience?
And the nasty thing is I need to "factory data reset" to clear that. The more annoying thing is this message will return again soon for no apparent reason... Possibly, from your reference, be a problem between Sony and Google...
Why dont you send it back to Sony HK to have a complete check? they are conveniently located in HK and Kowloon side.
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Android Central had a post that stated Google issued a fix for the Google Play Movie app.
It doesn't mention any specific issues, but if one app was having issues, at least they caught it and fixed it quickly. Probably had something to do with the quick fix of the overall Market (fine Play store).
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-movies-updated-sony-and-archos-tablet-crashes-fixed
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I am thankful to your suggestion. I went to Google support and confirmed that this is a general issue, not something peculiar to me alone. I need to travel in Greater China (i.e., Hong Kong, Macau, China and Taiwan) a lot because of my job nature. Among the areas only Play Store access from Hong Kong allows in-tablet Play Store purchase. I was in Macau this week, and it seems quite a few people in China and Macau have had the same issue of not connecting to Play Store.
I raised a question there concerning in-tablet Play Store purchase, and hope someone will write me an answer soon.
We HK users shouldn't complain anymore with regard to the availability of Playstation here since we are the lucky bunch who don't have the Play Store and wifi issues.
I guess now we are 2
I guess you are not alone any more, i got mine like 10 days ago, worked fine right out of the box, couple of upgrades, format...you know
then all of a sudden it diced not to connect any more, done most of what you guys done so fare none is working
shadowsony said:
I guess you are not alone any more, i got mine like 10 days ago, worked fine right out of the box, couple of upgrades, format...you know
then all of a sudden it diced not to connect any more, done most of what you guys done so fare none is working
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Don't worry. I think Google is already aware of the issue and will, hopefully, have this fixed in your region, like mine, soon. However, there is still an issue left open to fix: purchase app through the in-tablet Play Store for people who need to carry the machine and access Play Store of different regions.
Taking back for service usually won't do much help, however, unless the service guys are smart enough to find out what is really the issue. My experience was that they were usually unhelpful. Within guarantee period, they would replace either the PCB or replace with a refurbished machine but will still leave the problem for you to hunt for an answer.
In our case, I think, it is not a hardware problem, but the stability of Android as a whole.
i can't agree more
there is few BB referring to flushing the registered Gmail account from the device witch according to the expert it never get off by just a factory reset.
it dose make seance, taken into consideration that factory reset is not firmware instillation or ROM for the device.
didn't got the micro cable yet other wise i'm welling even to go that far, interesting note, though i can pin point one or two website that i'm facing trouble browsing from my normal PC and i'm not 100% sure if these things related in some point from ISP part, you know some port been blocked or some crazy firewall policy, the issue for me that i really can't tested as such as i don't have enough knowledge about how this google play works.
hope things will get a bit better at least from your side
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OK, for some unknown reason it worked, didn't do much and to make it worse my port blocking idea didn't work out either, still can't access those website yet the market worked out.
i really hope that things will not be this way again, and all the best for you guys
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[/COLOR]OK, for some unknown reason it worked, didn't do much and to make it worse my port blocking idea didn't work out either, still can't access those website yet the market worked out.
i really hope that things will not be this way again, and all the best for you guys
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I had simmilar problem, but realized, that date and time was wrong.
Sync the time and google play works
I recently bought an Xperia S from HongKong. It didint come with the Play store.... I want to install the playstore, what is the solution..Is there any possible way to enable Google play work on it...pls help me
I thing my device dont have Google’s compatibility requirements/or License
( https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1397129?hl=en )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143039
Would it be possible to install a stock UK/Europe version of android on this phone using the Sony Update/Flashing firmware would I have to use something else to install it?
Thanks for any help
To my opinion, you should try to install gapps : you can find links from cyanogen or miui ... Did you tried this?
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This could be a Google Framework Services bug, the good thing is that it is fixed now.
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This weekend, I flashed the 4.2.2 factory images onto my Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 devices. I am currently in China, and I likely won't return to the States until this summer. After flashing the images, I got some pages in Chinese that I skipped through without reading, then I had to check a box and click a button. I assumed it was a terms of service agreement. After completing the initial setup, I installed my apps using a web browser on my laptop since I was installing so many on both devices. It just seemed more efficient to go through my list of apps, click install, and click on both devices.
Everything went well, and I got both devices set up the way I like, and I thought I was in good shape. Then I saw one of the developers I follow mention that he had updated his app. I hadn't been prompted to update, so I opened the Play Store. The app wasn't there. It is on my N4 and on my N7, but it isn't showing up in either Play Store app.
On the N4, I have a list of installed apps, but it is not a comprehensive list. Many, many apps are missing. On the N7 it's even worse. I just have "Categories" when I open the app. If I click on the "Installed Apps" button, I get a blank page.
I do have a VPN with a server in San Francisco, and I set it up on both devices. I can connect on the N7. Once connected, I cleared the cache and data of the Play Store and forced it closed. Then I reopened, re-accepted the terms, and let it load (all with the VPN still connected). Same thing as before. On the N4, I can't even get the VPN to connect. That might be a completely separate issue, but it's keeping me from seeing if I can get the Play Store to improve.
Anyone have any ideas about what specifically (not "you're in China") might be causing this problem or how I might be able to fix it? I have flashed many roms with complete wipes since being in China, but I'm thinking this is probably my first time flashing a complete factory image. Both factory images were downloaded from Google's developer site. I don't recall if my VPN was connected when I downloaded those files or not.
Bumping to hopefully get some help.
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Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
Royz1911 said:
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
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Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
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you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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4.0.33
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4.0.33
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Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
astralbee said:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
Hey there,
if you are still a regular user of the good old GTab 10.1 - like my GF - you might have encountered this issue recently too.
Google has updated and does remotely update your Play Store Service to a version which is not supported anymore by this tablet, or the other way around, the app does not support our hardware anymore and the service keeps crashing and crashing, same with Chrome and Maps as far as I know.
Well I first thought something is wrong with the ROM or Gapps so I looked for a recent unofficial ROM and found the [ROM][Unofficial][AOSP] Android 7.1.1 Nougat and there was stated:
Incompatible apps:
The following apps no longer support the hardware in this tablet. They will not work on any ROM for this device. There is no hack to make them work.
Apps that do not support this tablet:
Chrome 50+
Google Translate
Gboard 6.0.79
Maps 9.45
Google Play services 10.2
Apps based on Unity 5 engine
Last known compatible versions:
Chrome 49.0
Gboard 6.0.69
Maps 9.44
Google Play services 10.0.84
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Well I had a backup from 2015 on the GTab and restored it but immediately the service updated itself and it began to crash.
In the Above mentioned thread there was some1 writing
This worked for me (for disabling Google Play Services auto-update) :
- disconnect wifi
- disable auto-update apps in Google Play Store
- in Settings / Apps, GPS, 3-dots menu, Uninstall updates, so back to v10.0.84....
- in App info, Data usage, disable Unrestricted data usage
- reconnect wifi
Now GPS doesn't seem to auto-update anymore.
Best regards
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Sadly this does not seem to work for me. I was thinking about Titanium backup to freeze the GPS but I am not sure if this will work.
Also flashed manually a GApps Version which had the older play store in it but also got overwritten immediately
So have you encountered this issue and how did you fix it?
Thanks
Did you make sure to turn off auto update apps in Google Play store? That combined with the other steps listed worked for me and my Galaxy Tab play services has NOT updated... And it works fine, though it still occasionally crashes, but not every ten secons.
Thank you for this information. I've been banging my head on the wall for a few days while searching the cause.
I'm facing exactly the same problem.
I don't have the "Disable unrestricted data usage" option in Google Play Services Data Usage.
There is only "Restrict app background data", but this one doesn't prevent GPS from update.
In the next day GPS updates automatically to version 10.2.* and crushes.
have you tried this ? : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/delete-disable-downgrade-prevent-update-t3091832
tl;dr create 2 folders at /data/app : com.google.android.gms-1.apk and com.google.android.gms-2.apk . Done that today, but still need to test on the long run.
I tried this and it worked - for a couple of days. Now some apps are complaining they are unlicensed
Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
Not Dead Yet
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Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
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My p4wifi is working fine on the latest 7.1.1 ROM and the older GApps. Disabling automatic updates in the Play Store keeps regular apps from updating when we don't want them to.
Disabling the background data settings in Apps.... Google Play Services... Settings keeps GPS from updating itself.
(I'm not sure that I made the settings change in Developer Options or not.)
It might be worth reading through the posts in the 7.1.1 thread.
I can afford a new tablet, but cannot find anything this size that keeps the ROM current with Google releases.
(I also do not play games or need esoteric applications.)
Don't give up yet.
Is this a solution?
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
I also deleted cacche from Gps & blocked the internet connection wth Afwall.
Tried the solution of lebaronrouge in 5.1.1 rom topic.
Seems to work.
Google Lens is already on the phone, but there's still the Google Lens app in the store that you can install. There's also GPay already on the phone, but some apps tell me to install Google Pay from the store.
Why? Does having double the apps screw with anything in the long run?
Maybe updates? I would go with the factory load versions unless they don't work well.
For Gpay, the one on the phone is the old version. They are pushing everyone to upgrade to the new version, that is the one in the store.
I don't use Gpay. The worst that will likely to happen if you don't upgrade is eventually it will stop working. You could get into issues with Playstore which demands updating. Playstore is so on my bad side, I rarely use it anymore.
I use the factory load versions for most of the Google apps especially Gmail and Gmaps as the update's UI's* sucked. Some of the Google system apps are factory load too because the update caused issues like excessive battery consumption*. So it is after 2 years, current load is over 1.5 yo, still fast, stable and user friendly.
You should experiment to see what works best for you. Just be aware that updates (especially firmware) can break just as easily as they can fix devices.
*Samsung seems to modify these and many times the factory load version works best. Or perhaps it's just the oldest version before Google screwed them up more
I installed the Google Assistant app just so I could add it as an icon to my home screen in Nova Launcher.
It's for people who root and want specific apps installed without installing the background/integration stuff.