Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
Pandemic187 said:
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
Royz1911 said:
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
Royz1911 said:
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
Hephaestus_ said:
Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
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you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
orl.on.dow said:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
jethro1138 said:
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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4.0.33
orl.on.dow said:
4.0.33
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Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
astralbee said:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
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Everywhere I look people say don't remove Google Talk because the Play store and Gmail won't work, you will get force closes, etc ...
... but I have removed Google Talk and both Gmail and the Play store work fine, and I have had no force closes.
Is the warning on removing Google Talk outdated?
EDIT: Not sure if this matters, but I use wifi only. No data plan.
Haints said:
Everywhere I look people say don't remove Google Talk because the Play store and Gmail won't work, you will get force closes, etc ...
... but I have removed Google Talk and both Gmail and the Play store work fine, and I have had no force closes.
Is the warning on removing Google Talk outdated?
EDIT: Not sure if this matters, but I use wifi only. No data plan.
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If it works for you then it should be fine but if you get errors don't blame the rom.
I believe that it is involved with Google account sync functionality. I confirmed this back on the Captivate (Gmail syncing issues were remediated by signing in to GTalk). I would look in that realm first for issues to pop up (any Google account syncing). Why do you want to disable it? It uses virtually no resources: very battery friendly.
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If it works for you then it should be fine but if you get errors don't blame the rom.
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Seems to be so far and no I won't blame the rom if something goes wrong.
Simba501 said:
I believe that it is involved with Google account sync functionality. I confirmed this back on the Captivate (Gmail syncing issues were remediated by signing in to GTalk). I would look in that realm first for issues to pop up (any Google account syncing). Why do you want to disable it? It uses virtually no resources: very battery friendly.
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I sent myself an email via my PC and it immediately showed up on my phone ... doesn't that mean it is syncing correctly? I guess I uninstalled it because I like to strip my OS down as much as possible ... Next time I might just leave it, if it is as light as you say ...
Thanks both of you for responding!
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Seems to be so far and no I won't blame the rom if something goes wrong.
I sent myself an email via my PC and it immediately showed up on my phone ... doesn't that mean it is syncing correctly? I guess I uninstalled it because I like to strip my OS down as much as possible ... Next time I might just leave it, if it is as light as you say ...
Thanks both of you for responding!
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Yes. Talk being functionally integrated with sync services may no longer be true, idk. This was on a much older OS.
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I remove Google talk from every ROM I use. And I've never had an issue.
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I am having some issues with Google Play giving error 927 when updating/downloading apps.
This happens both on wifi and cellular.
Both on my Note 2 on Sammy rom and Desire on 4.2.2.
Is there anything I can do?
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I have faced a similar problem long back.. I have done the below steps to recover..
Uninstall updates for Playstore
Clear data for Downlaod manager
Keep the phone connected to internet and reboot
after reboot wait for couple of minutes so that Playstore update will be installed properly.. Then try updating your apps..
I've tried everything
I have tried evey solution that I could possible find to try and stop getting error 927. It's definitly linked to my google account/gmail. When I create a new gmail, everything works fine. Problem is all of my purchased apps are attached to gmail with 927 error. Someone please help. I'm desperate!!!! I have Verizon Galaxy S4. Doesn't matter what I wipe, if I'm rooted or not, or if I try using my account on my wife's S4... All give me error 927!!!
jab476 said:
I have tried evey solution that I could possible find to try and stop getting error 927. It's definitly linked to my google account/gmail. When I create a new gmail, everything works fine. Problem is all of my purchased apps are attached to gmail with 927 error. Someone please help. I'm desperate!!!! I have Verizon Galaxy S4. Doesn't matter what I wipe, if I'm rooted or not, or if I try using my account on my wife's S4... All give me error 927!!!
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Change your google password and all should work again.
cmlusco said:
Change your google password and all should work again.
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I'm actually having this same exact problem on my Note 3. I tried changing my Google password, but continue to have problems. I pulled a logcat and posted it here in case anyone can interpret it.
https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B...2lZdG1YM1Y3X28
What version of the play store are you running? Also, do you have the background restricted for the play store?
Try the newest Play Store if yours is not up to date. I remember the issue in my S4 and newest version solved it after wiping data and install update.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-play-store-activity-iap-indicators-and-more/
cmlusco said:
Change your google password and all should work again.
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What version of the play store are you running? Also, do you have the background restricted for the play store?
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I have version 4.5.10. I'm not sure how to check for the background restriction.
mightykc said:
I have version 4.5.10. I'm not sure how to check for the background restriction.
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Setting -> Data Usage -> Menu -> Background Data
May have slightly different way phone by phone. Also check the app under Data Usage for play store, see if background data restricted.
RevelationOmega said:
Setting -> Data Usage -> Menu -> Background Data
May have slightly different way phone by phone. Also check the app under Data Usage for play store, see if background data restricted.
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Ok I checked and background data is not restricted, and I have the latest play store version.
It is a issue @ Google, nothing you can do on your phone to fix it. Contact Google support. I have a support case there, and need more people to bug them, so they have to fix it.
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paulove said:
It is a issue @ Google, nothing you can do on your phone to fix it. Contact Google support. I have a support case there, and need more people to bug them, so they have to fix it.
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Ok so I called Google Play support, and they said was they are aware of the problem and have no resolution and I should try to search the web for others having the same problem and see if the found a fix. WTF....
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mightykc said:
Ok so I called Google Play support, and they said was they are aware of the problem and have no resolution and I should try to search the web for others having the same problem and see if the found a fix. WTF....
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and I found another thread with the same issue so it is starting to affect other people:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627114
@mightykc
When did you start using your account on Google play? Did you use in on GB and before?
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@mightykc
When did you start using your account on Google play? Did you use in on GB and before?
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Yes its the same account I've had going all the way back to the first Android phone. It has gotten better. I ODIn'ed back from a 4.4.2 ROM to a custom 4.3 ROM and my market works most of the time. When it starts actign up I usually have to clear data/wipe caches, restart and wait a bit for it to resync my account. Kind of a pain, but working most of the time is better than none of the time.
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Yes its the same account I've had going all the way back to the first Android phone. It has gotten better. I ODIn'ed back from a 4.4.2 ROM to a custom 4.3 ROM and my market works most of the time. When it starts actign up I usually have to clear data/wipe caches, restart and wait a bit for it to resync my account. Kind of a pain, but working most of the time is better than none of the time.
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How are the Play store on the web working for you when signed in with the account you are having issues with. For me I have trouble loading in anything @all. Especially the top list, and my purchases.
I believe there are issues with older accounts that did not get updated/patched with new settings after ICS update, or the 3.0+ update of their store when it became Play Store and not Android market. When I use my other account all is ok, but there I have no purchased apps.
If you want you can find the 2.3.6 version of Market and replace the Play store and you will find that all issues are gone. Now I use Legazy Play store witch can be used together with normal play. Just need to push it to system/apps on 4.3 or system/priv-apps on 4.4.
Use all this advise at own risk.
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Anyone have any luck with this/ age of Gmail accounts?
I just recently started having this issue on a stock GS4A on at&t. Maybe a week ago could not get updates and wrote it off as a busy server then realized this weekend I could not get anything new.
I tried every fix I could find on the forums and even a fix that the 2nd tier Google tech suggested (no different from the forum fixes other than including turning the automatic date/time on and off). Every method was a band-aid at best: one or two apps can come through before I get the 927 error or the DF-BPA-30 error. At least the error codes are consistent...
I honestly think this is related to the age of my account. I have had a Gmail account since 2007 or so when I believe it was still in beta. I am surmising that older accounts are on an older server or something that is having issues. I made two dummy accounts and could download anything I wanted, so there is nothing wrong with my handset or connections. The temporary work-around I am using is adding a secondary gmail account and adding any apps through it, while still using primary for mail, contacts, and calendar. I am not a heavy user, so it works, but I should not have to patch it together like this!
So- anyone who is getting this error; how long have you been a Google user? Anyone else tried "old vs new" for a cause of the error?
When I replied to the 2nd tier tech I told him his method did not work, but asked to look into the account itself. I'll update if I have anything to say.
ReschDMD said:
I just recently started having this issue on a stock GS4A on at&t. Maybe a week ago could not get updates and wrote it off as a busy server then realized this weekend I could not get anything new.
I tried every fix I could find on the forums and even a fix that the 2nd tier Google tech suggested (no different from the forum fixes other than including turning the automatic date/time on and off). Every method was a band-aid at best: one or two apps can come through before I get the 927 error or the DF-BPA-30 error. At least the error codes are consistent...
I honestly think this is related to the age of my account. I have had a Gmail account since 2007 or so when I believe it was still in beta. I am surmising that older accounts are on an older server or something that is having issues. I made two dummy accounts and could download anything I wanted, so there is nothing wrong with my handset or connections. The temporary work-around I am using is adding a secondary gmail account and adding any apps through it, while still using primary for mail, contacts, and calendar. I am not a heavy user, so it works, but I should not have to patch it together like this!
So- anyone who is getting this error; how long have you been a Google user? Anyone else tried "old vs new" for a cause of the error?
When I replied to the 2nd tier tech I told him his method did not work, but asked to look into the account itself. I'll update if I have anything to say.
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Ask to get your case transferred to apps division. There I got real help. They are really good. And have helped me a lot.
There are two possible methods to solve error 927 on android:
Method 1:
Go to settings>>”All”>>Select “Google Play Store”
Now Force Stop>>Clear Data>>Clear Cache
Now again try downloading or updating the app
If the above didn’t work, go to settings>>”All”>>Select “Google Play Store”>>Uninstall Updates
Again, from “All”>> Select “Download Manager”>>Clear Data and Cache
Rerun Google Play Store and install/update your app or game
Method 2:
Go to system settings>> Accounts>>Google>>remove your Gmail account
Now from settings>>Apps>>All> Force stop, Clear data and cache for Google Play Store, Google Service Framework and Download Manager (like in method 1)
Now again go to settings>> Accounts>>Google>>Add your gmail account
Restart your android and then accept all the Google terms and setup Google settings
Rerun Google Play Store and update or install your app.
How to Fix Error 927 in Android
Free Some Space on your device
Clear data and cache files of Google Play Store
Stop or Uninstall Google Play Store (Updates)
Add New Gmail Account
Hope it helped you....
Try the methods below
Free some space on your device
Clear data and cache in Google Play Store
Add new Google account
Uninstall updates of Google Play store
It is the most annoying issue facing by many Android users, that occurs when you download or update any games and apps from the Google play store. But for me, this error solved by the just clear cache.
Hi, I just received my Truesmart + today, and I tried to install the google playstore and while I was able to get the APK into the watch, after it installs the playstore it fails to open.
So basically whenever I press the playstore button it'd open for half a second and the whole program just vanishes like if it got reverted back to the homescreen..... Ive also downloaded several different version of playstore and havent had any luck either...
I was wondering if you guys know if its possible to even install the google play store and get it to run on this model??
The specs of my watch are:
Android Version: 5.1
Baseband version: MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MPV5, 2015/08/24 16:00
Kernel Version: 3.10.72
Build Number: Omate_Truesmart+_V1.1
Custom Build Version: OUI 3.0
Please help me out, I dont want to end up with a brick =(
I am curious about this too (was supposed to get mine today but the mailman messed up) Did they not include the OStore or some sort of other app program? Are any apps preloaded?
You'll also notice that you can't add a Google account within Settings-> Accounts.
The only way around that so I'm actually able to add a Google account is by sideloading "Google Services Framework" & "Google Account Manager" (in addition to "Play Services").
However, even with these installed, Play Store still doesn't work - it launches but won't connect.
Hopefully a solution is found.
Until then, I'm fine with using my LG Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE.
Pre-installed Apps are pretty sparse:
> Phone
> SMS
> Exchange
> File Manager
> Browser
> Calendar
> Clock
> Gallery
> Downloads
> Contacts
> Search
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*UPDATE*
I've reached out to Laurent LePen (CEO of Omate) & told him the usual method of making the Play Store work (by sideloading the 3 Apps I mentioned) doesn't work on the Omate TrueSmart+. He said they're rolling out an update next week to fix that.
So hopefully, next week it'll work.
*fingers crossed*
Wow, releasing a watch without its own OStore supported seems like a big mistake. Their Facebook discussion also seems to suggest that they'll be pushing an update by the end of the year, so hopefully that holds true.
I was able to install Google search and google now launcher, but google play store won't work without "google play services" and I haven't found a version of that .apk that will not keep crashing on the Truesmart+
Since google play services keeps crashing, the play store stays on a "Checking Info" screen that keeps spinning and spinning...
Same issue here, obviously...
com.google.android.gms_8.4.89_(2428711-234)-8489234_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a)(240dpi).apk should be the correct version of Play Services, but it still crashes on me...
Does anyone have any newer versions of the Services Framework and Account Manager APK's?
Anyone, any updates?
Edit: There will be a firmware update this weekend which will pus the OStore... No Play STore, but at least it's something for now...
I just unboxed my truesmart+ today.
I think it is not useful without google service inside.
I can't sync my contact nor get my paid apps on it, it is really a bit disappointing.
KuwaK said:
I just unboxed my truesmart+ today.
I think it is not useful without google service inside.
I can't sync my contact nor get my paid apps on it, it is really a bit disappointing.
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There has to be a way we can get it on there...
SparkyRih said:
There has to be a way we can get it on there...
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Hurray~!
I rev an update today, I updated to V1.2. And the google play is inside!!!!!!!
I am now installing my APPs now.
KuwaK said:
Hurray~!
I rev an update today, I updated to V1.2. And the google play is inside!!!!!!!
I am now installing my APPs now.
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I thought they would put the OStore in the update, but this is even better!!!
Everything appears to be working great
Just curious, if Aptoide does the same thing as the Play Store, did we really need the Play Store? I'm away from my device so I can't test it, but it seems Aptoide has many of the same mainstream apps as the Play Store (Maps, YouTube, etc)
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
proxy170 said:
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
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Aptoide will work for free apps, if you install "My Paid Apps" from Aptoide you may also be able to install some of your paid apps as well. Aptoide's biggest drawbacks are much smaller number of apps, less security, sometimes apps do not get updated as often, not all paid apps will be accessible.
Another option is Amazon App Store.
proxy170 said:
Could someone please answer my question re: Aptoide? Is this a viable alternative? (from a technical perspective, please no need to go into politics) Thanks.
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Aptoide is a viable alternative to Google Play, but only if you are very careful and very skilled at being able to recognize and avoid trojanized versions of apps. The majority of people hosting apps there are well intentioned, I guess, but there are also a large number of maliciously modified apps to be found there, and cracked premium pay apps are included.
Using Aptoide over the Play Store, then, is not a good idea unless you are very skilled or have other means of avoiding Android malware mixed in with the many legitimate apps available there. If you get apps there that are really hosted there by their real original developers, for example, you can feel pretty secure.
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trent999 said:
Using Aptoide over the Play Store, then, is not a good idea unless you are very skilled or have other means of avoiding Android malware mixed in with the many legitimate apps available there.
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Thank you both for your replies! Referencing your statement above, if I download only the apps marked with a green shield marked "trusted" should I be ok? (Do I trust the trust mark?) I'm only looking for Maps, YouTube, SWApp, Gmail, Amazon Music, Pandora.
proxy170 said:
Thank you both for your replies! Referencing your statement above, if I download only the apps marked with a green shield marked "trusted" should I be ok? (Do I trust the trust mark?) I'm only looking for Maps, YouTube, SWApp, Gmail, Amazon Music, Pandora.
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You can download the .apk files from the play store by using this website: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/.
This procedure should be safe and maleware free.
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As of Feb. 8/9 of 2017, it looks to me like my Tablet S, which came with 4.0.3 is no longer able to run Google apps. The tablet is still fine for other things, but the Chrome browser is on version 42 and can't be updated. Kinda sucks that one day it works, and the next it doesn't. It is still a fine tablet but much less useful to me without the Google apps. Some can still run in the browser, but it certainly is not as handy.
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
m4q said:
Hi,
I have the same issue. A couple of days ago (I think on 10.02.2017), all Google apps lost connection to 'mothership' on my STS . I've tried all potential fixes out there (clearing data, cache, uninstalling updates, re-installing updates, uninstalling Google Services, modifying hosts file, disabling two-step authentication etc.) - nothing works. I've made also a factory reset and up until the moment I download Google Services app, the connection is there. However, all new versions of Gapps require Google Services in order to run. So it's either running a couple years old versions or not having Gapps at all.
Is this some kind of intentional action on Google side? Or maybe some bug in Google Services app? I doubt many people here still use STS, but maybe there's hope that someone finds a solution to this issue?
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Thanks for the reply. My belief is the Chrome browser cannot be updated on the version of Android it is running. That would mean to me that any other device running 4.0.3 is running Chrome 42, also, and nothing can be done. Sure would like to be wrong. I have plenty of options (toys), but I hate losing normal functions on an otherwise functional machine. It is 5 years old.
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
m4q said:
Thanks for starting this thread in the first place. Without it, I would still be wondering am I the only one with this issue .
I don't think it's connected solely to Chrome browser. From my point of view, it has something to do with google services. I've tried to revert to some older version (via APK mirror, but with no success). What's worse, now I can't even get into google play store (for a while I could, despite Gapps being down). Not sure what to do at this point. I've used my STS mostly for YT or some movie during travel. I guess I'm left with just the latter . Anyway, if it's not just a bug, then it's a really unfair move from google.
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I would bet I am correct, but...see which version of Android and the browser you are running and compare to what I reported. I was told the browser was no longer updateable with 4.0.3. The fact that it happened just as Google was announcing its new products is what led me to this conclusion.
You can still watch YouTube through the browser on your STS. I had mine on my bedstand with the dock so that I could watch in bed via Google Cast. Cast will not work because of this issue, even in the browser, because it is a newer app. So, I replaced it with my Nexus 7 2012, which also has a dock. Works fine, as would a phone or tablet.
These are my conclusions - if you find otherwise, please report back! :good:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
m4q said:
Of course, I'm not 100% sure, but since I'm not using Chrome browser and still have this issue - wouldn't that indicate that it isn't a browser-related one? Plus, once you do a factory reset and not install Google Play Services, the connection to Google servers is being established. It's being lost after Google Play Services installation. That's what suggest to me that these services are indeed the culprit. In the end it doesn't really matter as whatever the culprit is, it doesn't look like we can solve this on our own .
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Not disagreeing. Just saying that if the browser can't be updated, then apps can't be either, perhaps for the reasons you state. Sorry for the confusion. I think we're looking at the same thing from different perspectives. Either way, I think the STS is de-Googled. It is a shame as I think it has been a really good machine for its specs. Time to repurpose it or just put it away.
Sad, but true . STS had its quirks, but it has been with me longer than any other equipment.
I won't hold my breath, but maybe next Google Play Services update or some other update could fix this issue. I'll let you know if I find something.
Cheers.
I got out another Android tablet (an Asus 2 in 1) that I was thinking of repurposing and found it had Android 4.0.3 and Google Play Services 10.2.98. There is no access to Google apps except the Play Store and the Chrome browser. I forgot to check which browser number it was but if I had to guess, it is 42. Since I had not been using it, I don't know when this access was taken away, but I'd think it was the same timeframe as the STS.
There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
spicyalan said:
There are 2 seperate issues.
- Chrome browser does not update: this is normal (I think since quite some time), as the chrome browser does not support Android 4.0 anymore. Just download another browser.
- Since a short time (days, weeks) there are some issues with the google services. Youtube doesn't start, sync doesn't work. Google Photos cannot login. But the play store does work fine.
This problem occurs on 3 seperate tablets, all with different google logins and configurations. I also tried resetting to factory state on one tablet, with the same results.
This is not because of android 4.0, because I have other devices that are older (even 2.3) that still work fine. There is probably a Google-Service update that does not play nicely with the tablet S (or maybe even other tegra 2 chipsets).
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FYI:
It is indeed an incompatability between the latest Google-Services and Tegra2 chip.
All Tegra2 devices seems to be impacted, including the devices that are updateable to a newer version of android.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
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Thanks for the info! I will keep looking at the various sites to see if a fix for the Tegra devices comes out, but I'm not counting on it. Again, everything by Google but the Chrome browser and the Play Store seem to be affected, so the main reason I use Google is gone for two devices. If it isn't a Google app, they do work. YouTube works in the browser, but not Cast, etc. Hulu works.
I have other tablets and phones that have ARM processors, so I don't need to buy anything, but it is disappointing that they screwed up two good Google devices I have, one being in use everyday until it happened. That reminds me, I have a Chromebook with a Tegra chip - I'll have to check on that...updating from 59..0.2924.87 to...56.0.2924.110 - no problems. This is a Samsung XE303C12.
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
m4q said:
Thanks a lot spicyalan for the info about all Tegra2 devices being affected.
I've just installed Google Play Services version 10.5.42 (beta) and it seems to have solved the issue . At least I can use Gmail and YT freely, without crashes or FCs.
Afterwards, I have checked your link (https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/uX3Xqk2gi_k;context-place=topicsearchin/play/category$3Aandroid%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false) and others have confirm this to be a working solution (at least for the time being).
Cheers!:good:
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Agreed, the 10.5.42 beta works on my Asus TF101 and my Sony Tablet S, both having Android 4.0.3.
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I'm really pissed, that with the latest play store, I have absolutely no way of looking at previous apps I have used for yrs.. I have looked all over the place, and can not find any sign of apps I used and have payed for, that still work... I do have some back up, but the idea of them basically telling me what I can and can not install from previous yrs is pure bulls**t. The idea of getting a iphone soon is getting better and better with each passing day.
What Google play store version are you on?
Whatever the newest one is....29.5.14-21
Is it the new Material You design? What country are you from?
In UK law, they are required to give you access to any digital content you have purchased so I doubt they would get rid of the library when they require it for compliance.
richhaynes said:
Is it the new Material You design? What country are you from?
In UK law, they are required to give you access to any digital content you have purchased so I doubt they would get rid of the library when they require it for compliance.
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I'm USA.. I have noticed a lot of apps I have purchased no longer show up in play store purchase history.. What also sucks. I did a complete back up of all files and apps I wanted.. Quess what they are lost, can not figure that one out.. Not on google drive or samsung cloud.
doubledragon5 said:
I'm really pissed, that with the latest play store, I have absolutely no way of looking at previous apps I have used for yrs.. I have looked all over the place, and can not find any sign of apps I used and have payed for, that still work... I do have some back up, but the idea of them basically telling me what I can and can not install from previous yrs is pure bulls**t. The idea of getting a iphone soon is getting better and better with each passing day.
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In play store press your profile picture next to the search bar.
Press library
My purchased apps appear in there, from years back. If yours don’t, are you sure you haven’t accidentally used a different Google account to previous phones?
If you're logged in in a browser with your Google account, you can see what you have paid for by simply going to
Sign in - Google Accounts
play.google.com
and instantly see your purchases. Looking at my (long) list, I have no idea whether it also holds apps that are no longer available.
And here appears to be the list of all apps you ever installed:
Sign in - Google Accounts
play.google.com
(XDA makes weird titles for the links, but you can look at the URL and see whether you feel they are legit (they are))
"The idea of getting a iphone soon is getting better and better with each passing day."
In the move from 32 bit to 64 bit about half of my purchased iOS apps went unusable on newer devices, and games like Monkey Island have just vanished from the iOS app store without any notice, or any evidence that you ever purchased it, so also without any possiblity for a refund. So I don't think Apple does this better than Google....
TonySpoons said:
In play store press your profile picture next to the search bar.
Press library
My purchased apps appear in there, from years back. If yours don’t, are you sure you haven’t accidentally used a different Google account to previous phones?
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The issue with my missing purchase was resolved.. I'm not sure what the issue was.. After a couple of hrs, and my phone finishing up updates after Samsung installing my new mainboard all seem to appear.. I'm not crazy, but even when logged into my pc, none of my apps would appear.. I have been using the same google account for yrs.. I only have one. I do know this.. Some of my apps that are back, were not available to me 6 months ago.. Maybe this has happened to others, and complaints were sent to google.. And with newer updates these issue were resolved..