What's Wrong with Removing Google Talk? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Everywhere I look people say don't remove Google Talk because the Play store and Gmail won't work, you will get force closes, etc ...
... but I have removed Google Talk and both Gmail and the Play store work fine, and I have had no force closes.
Is the warning on removing Google Talk outdated?
EDIT: Not sure if this matters, but I use wifi only. No data plan.

Haints said:
Everywhere I look people say don't remove Google Talk because the Play store and Gmail won't work, you will get force closes, etc ...
... but I have removed Google Talk and both Gmail and the Play store work fine, and I have had no force closes.
Is the warning on removing Google Talk outdated?
EDIT: Not sure if this matters, but I use wifi only. No data plan.
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If it works for you then it should be fine but if you get errors don't blame the rom.

I believe that it is involved with Google account sync functionality. I confirmed this back on the Captivate (Gmail syncing issues were remediated by signing in to GTalk). I would look in that realm first for issues to pop up (any Google account syncing). Why do you want to disable it? It uses virtually no resources: very battery friendly.

122ninjas said:
If it works for you then it should be fine but if you get errors don't blame the rom.
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Seems to be so far and no I won't blame the rom if something goes wrong.
Simba501 said:
I believe that it is involved with Google account sync functionality. I confirmed this back on the Captivate (Gmail syncing issues were remediated by signing in to GTalk). I would look in that realm first for issues to pop up (any Google account syncing). Why do you want to disable it? It uses virtually no resources: very battery friendly.
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I sent myself an email via my PC and it immediately showed up on my phone ... doesn't that mean it is syncing correctly? I guess I uninstalled it because I like to strip my OS down as much as possible ... Next time I might just leave it, if it is as light as you say ...
Thanks both of you for responding!

Haints said:
Seems to be so far and no I won't blame the rom if something goes wrong.
I sent myself an email via my PC and it immediately showed up on my phone ... doesn't that mean it is syncing correctly? I guess I uninstalled it because I like to strip my OS down as much as possible ... Next time I might just leave it, if it is as light as you say ...
Thanks both of you for responding!
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Yes. Talk being functionally integrated with sync services may no longer be true, idk. This was on a much older OS.
Sent from my Galaxy S2

I remove Google talk from every ROM I use. And I've never had an issue.
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[Q] Market doesn't remember paid apps

After moving from SC to OTA ED01, 2 of my paid apps don't remember that I paid for them. They show as purchased when I look at my market account on the web, but not when I use the app. If I try to install them from the web, they don't download on the phone (other apps do, but not these two.) If I restore the apps from backup, they both revert to the free version.
The two apps are TitaniumBackup and BackcountryNavigator.
Any ideas? I can always contact the authors, but the fact that they're both doing the same thing leads me to believe it's not a problem with the apps.
This sounds like its a problem with your google data on you phone itself.
Have you tried clearing/wiping and letting it sync again?
I really have no background in this but I think it pulls from your google account to check against a database of what you have flagged as purchased and not.
If anything its a place to start.
Might try and browse the market through the browser on your phone and see if it shows up as purchased that way.
I did clear the market data, reboot, and then let it resync. It got everything except these two. I'll try it from the phone browser and see what happens. I'm also thinking of flashing ComRom, maybe that will fix whatever the hangup is.
Well the issue persists after installing the community rom. I'm about out of ideas.
Oh good lord, I finally found the answer. It depends on the order in which you enter google accounts on the phone. I have an apps account and a gmail account. When I first got the phone, I started it up with the apps account. But when I started flashing ROMs I entered the gmail account first as it's the one I had purchased the apps with. Nope, that doesn't work. They have to be entered in to the phone in the same order as they originally were. *shakes head* That is just sooooo frickin stupid.
Here's the thread I found the answer in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9762495
Perfect example of how to reply! Thank you!
drnihili said:
Oh good lord, I finally found the answer. It depends on the order in which you enter google accounts on the phone. I have an apps account and a gmail account. When I first got the phone, I started it up with the apps account. But when I started flashing ROMs I entered the gmail account first as it's the one I had purchased the apps with. Nope, that doesn't work. They have to be entered in to the phone in the same order as they originally were. *shakes head* That is just sooooo frickin stupid.
Here's the thread I found the answer in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9762495
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Thank you SO much, I appreciate the way you formatted this reply. You gave a short concise account of what you discovered in your own words AND provided a link for others to where you found the information in case they need further clarification. Hopefully others will catch on and make this a standard community process... thank you again, now hopefully I can get NFS Shift back... I've paid for it twice now!

[Q] Play Store won't let me re-download purchased apps

Yesterday I finally rooted, and maybe picked a bad time... I've done 2c, 3a, wifi wipe, nandroid backup and flashed modem to UCKK6. And now the Play Store wants me to re-buy apps.
Play store knows of a similar issue, but I haven't found anything like this in the i777 forum, and maybe I just screwed up when re-entering my Google account after wiping. I've done everything possible with my Google account, including resetting the password, so i know the account works, at least. Am I missing the easy fix that everybody knows about? Any advice?
So your issue is its not showing the apps? Or its telling u u haven't bought the app
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They (only a few, but still...) show as available to buy. I guess another question would be (now that I've purchased TIBU Pro) how to avoid this when I flash to ics?
Try loging into your Play Store from the computer and see if it tells you differently.. My experience with it in the past, it will show what you have brought when you log into the Play Store. Then you can do the option to have it re-install from there.
This isn't I777-specific - Google Play has been having issues lately.
It hasn't even scrolled off of the first page of Engadget Mobile yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/29/purchased-play-store-apps-gone-missing-googles-looking-into-it/
true i could never understand why they changed it to play store tho market seemed more stable
The worst part is that I'm not sure I have that known issue. I had the play store working properly (* at least it appeared to be working...) until root/wipe, which I did the day this issue appeared. **** luck or coincidence? Probably both...
Any other i777 users with this problem?
mgd76 said:
The worst part is that I'm not sure I have that known issue. I had the play store working properly (* at least it appeared to be working...) until root/wipe, which I did the day this issue appeared. **** luck or coincidence? Probably both...
Any other i777 users with this problem?
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I had similar issues when I would use TiBu to restore, but instead of just doing apps, I did all apps and data - it would screw up the market links so it didn't know what I owned any more. Being careful to only restore missing apps + data has taken that problem away. And just rooting shouldn't have done it.
Unless you restored "wrong", I'd wait and see how well Google responds (they're not very good at it, sadly).
alacrify said:
I had similar issues when I would use TiBu to restore, but instead of just doing apps, I did all apps and data - it would screw up the market links so it didn't know what I owned any more. Being careful to only restore missing apps + data has taken that problem away. And just rooting shouldn't have done it.
Unless you restored "wrong", I'd wait and see how well Google responds (they're not very good at it, sadly).
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Thanks, but I didn't restore at all... I never bought TiBU before rooting (wouldn't have worked, right?) so that was the first thing I did after root. Then I noticed that my old apps had prices again. I thought I would be able to re-download them...
Sassibob, I want this resolved before I get my ice cream sandwich... Please hurry!
mgd76 said:
Yesterday I finally rooted, and maybe picked a bad time... I've done 2c, 3a, wifi wipe, nandroid backup and flashed modem to UCKK6. And now the Play Store wants me to re-buy apps.
Play store knows of a similar issue, but I haven't found anything like this in the i777 forum, and maybe I just screwed up when re-entering my Google account after wiping. I've done everything possible with my Google account, including resetting the password, so i know the account works, at least. Am I missing the easy fix that everybody knows about? Any advice?
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did you ever get them working?
Not yet. Last time I checked, Google had the issue listed as recently fixed.
BeenAndroidized said:
Try loging into your Play Store from the computer and see if it tells you differently.. My experience with it in the past, it will show what you have brought when you log into the Play Store. Then you can do the option to have it re-install from there.
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Good tip, found out that my whole Google account has a start date of March 29. Should be October 15th, or thereabouts. Of course, march 29th was root/wipe day, so maybe I failed reconnecting to Google? I've sent "feedback", but won't hold my breath...
Now that I see other i777 users are having issues like mine, I'm taking the jokes out of this thread title. Sassibob, Y U B USELESS?
PS. Help request form filled out, ticket # received. Still not holding my breath...
Patience. Sadly this is do to some issues with their account server. Submit your ticket and wait patently. Get a receipt from your email and attach it so they can find the old data and fix it.
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I had this issue the other day, and the fact that I had the options to auto-restore app data from "the cloud" screwed with things badly. I turned that off, it warned me it was going to delete all device data from my dashboard. After that, it acted properly.
skatcat31 said:
Patience. Sadly this is do to some issues with their account server. Submit your ticket and wait patently. Get a receipt from your email and attach it so they can find the old data and fix it.
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Patience is wearing thin... Greg from PlayStore support team has now referred me to this website. As far as I can tell, it's a closed loop, with NO help options if your issue isn't among the few they address. What next?
http://support.google.com/accounts/?hl=en
PS. All aspects of my google account have re-started on root/wipe day, including Gmail. No access to the email receipts or any other emails from before.
Sent Google Play support another message yesterday, saying I have receipts on my phone bills.
No reply.
Well, I finally got Google support (main, not play store) to look into this. I had created multiple Google accounts, and all is fixed. Except: they can't or won't link those accounts, so to get those apps back from scratch, I will always have to log in to both accounts.

Error 927 Google Play.

I am having some issues with Google Play giving error 927 when updating/downloading apps.
This happens both on wifi and cellular.
Both on my Note 2 on Sammy rom and Desire on 4.2.2.
Is there anything I can do?
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I have faced a similar problem long back.. I have done the below steps to recover..
Uninstall updates for Playstore
Clear data for Downlaod manager
Keep the phone connected to internet and reboot
after reboot wait for couple of minutes so that Playstore update will be installed properly.. Then try updating your apps..
I've tried everything
I have tried evey solution that I could possible find to try and stop getting error 927. It's definitly linked to my google account/gmail. When I create a new gmail, everything works fine. Problem is all of my purchased apps are attached to gmail with 927 error. Someone please help. I'm desperate!!!! I have Verizon Galaxy S4. Doesn't matter what I wipe, if I'm rooted or not, or if I try using my account on my wife's S4... All give me error 927!!!
jab476 said:
I have tried evey solution that I could possible find to try and stop getting error 927. It's definitly linked to my google account/gmail. When I create a new gmail, everything works fine. Problem is all of my purchased apps are attached to gmail with 927 error. Someone please help. I'm desperate!!!! I have Verizon Galaxy S4. Doesn't matter what I wipe, if I'm rooted or not, or if I try using my account on my wife's S4... All give me error 927!!!
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Change your google password and all should work again.
cmlusco said:
Change your google password and all should work again.
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I'm actually having this same exact problem on my Note 3. I tried changing my Google password, but continue to have problems. I pulled a logcat and posted it here in case anyone can interpret it.
https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B...2lZdG1YM1Y3X28
What version of the play store are you running? Also, do you have the background restricted for the play store?
Try the newest Play Store if yours is not up to date. I remember the issue in my S4 and newest version solved it after wiping data and install update.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-play-store-activity-iap-indicators-and-more/
cmlusco said:
Change your google password and all should work again.
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RevelationOmega said:
What version of the play store are you running? Also, do you have the background restricted for the play store?
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I have version 4.5.10. I'm not sure how to check for the background restriction.
mightykc said:
I have version 4.5.10. I'm not sure how to check for the background restriction.
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Setting -> Data Usage -> Menu -> Background Data
May have slightly different way phone by phone. Also check the app under Data Usage for play store, see if background data restricted.
RevelationOmega said:
Setting -> Data Usage -> Menu -> Background Data
May have slightly different way phone by phone. Also check the app under Data Usage for play store, see if background data restricted.
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Ok I checked and background data is not restricted, and I have the latest play store version.
It is a issue @ Google, nothing you can do on your phone to fix it. Contact Google support. I have a support case there, and need more people to bug them, so they have to fix it.
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paulove said:
It is a issue @ Google, nothing you can do on your phone to fix it. Contact Google support. I have a support case there, and need more people to bug them, so they have to fix it.
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Ok so I called Google Play support, and they said was they are aware of the problem and have no resolution and I should try to search the web for others having the same problem and see if the found a fix. WTF....
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mightykc said:
Ok so I called Google Play support, and they said was they are aware of the problem and have no resolution and I should try to search the web for others having the same problem and see if the found a fix. WTF....
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and I found another thread with the same issue so it is starting to affect other people:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627114
@mightykc
When did you start using your account on Google play? Did you use in on GB and before?
paulove said:
@mightykc
When did you start using your account on Google play? Did you use in on GB and before?
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Yes its the same account I've had going all the way back to the first Android phone. It has gotten better. I ODIn'ed back from a 4.4.2 ROM to a custom 4.3 ROM and my market works most of the time. When it starts actign up I usually have to clear data/wipe caches, restart and wait a bit for it to resync my account. Kind of a pain, but working most of the time is better than none of the time.
mightykc said:
Yes its the same account I've had going all the way back to the first Android phone. It has gotten better. I ODIn'ed back from a 4.4.2 ROM to a custom 4.3 ROM and my market works most of the time. When it starts actign up I usually have to clear data/wipe caches, restart and wait a bit for it to resync my account. Kind of a pain, but working most of the time is better than none of the time.
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How are the Play store on the web working for you when signed in with the account you are having issues with. For me I have trouble loading in anything @all. Especially the top list, and my purchases.
I believe there are issues with older accounts that did not get updated/patched with new settings after ICS update, or the 3.0+ update of their store when it became Play Store and not Android market. When I use my other account all is ok, but there I have no purchased apps.
If you want you can find the 2.3.6 version of Market and replace the Play store and you will find that all issues are gone. Now I use Legazy Play store witch can be used together with normal play. Just need to push it to system/apps on 4.3 or system/priv-apps on 4.4.
Use all this advise at own risk.
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Anyone have any luck with this/ age of Gmail accounts?
I just recently started having this issue on a stock GS4A on at&t. Maybe a week ago could not get updates and wrote it off as a busy server then realized this weekend I could not get anything new.
I tried every fix I could find on the forums and even a fix that the 2nd tier Google tech suggested (no different from the forum fixes other than including turning the automatic date/time on and off). Every method was a band-aid at best: one or two apps can come through before I get the 927 error or the DF-BPA-30 error. At least the error codes are consistent...
I honestly think this is related to the age of my account. I have had a Gmail account since 2007 or so when I believe it was still in beta. I am surmising that older accounts are on an older server or something that is having issues. I made two dummy accounts and could download anything I wanted, so there is nothing wrong with my handset or connections. The temporary work-around I am using is adding a secondary gmail account and adding any apps through it, while still using primary for mail, contacts, and calendar. I am not a heavy user, so it works, but I should not have to patch it together like this!
So- anyone who is getting this error; how long have you been a Google user? Anyone else tried "old vs new" for a cause of the error?
When I replied to the 2nd tier tech I told him his method did not work, but asked to look into the account itself. I'll update if I have anything to say.
ReschDMD said:
I just recently started having this issue on a stock GS4A on at&t. Maybe a week ago could not get updates and wrote it off as a busy server then realized this weekend I could not get anything new.
I tried every fix I could find on the forums and even a fix that the 2nd tier Google tech suggested (no different from the forum fixes other than including turning the automatic date/time on and off). Every method was a band-aid at best: one or two apps can come through before I get the 927 error or the DF-BPA-30 error. At least the error codes are consistent...
I honestly think this is related to the age of my account. I have had a Gmail account since 2007 or so when I believe it was still in beta. I am surmising that older accounts are on an older server or something that is having issues. I made two dummy accounts and could download anything I wanted, so there is nothing wrong with my handset or connections. The temporary work-around I am using is adding a secondary gmail account and adding any apps through it, while still using primary for mail, contacts, and calendar. I am not a heavy user, so it works, but I should not have to patch it together like this!
So- anyone who is getting this error; how long have you been a Google user? Anyone else tried "old vs new" for a cause of the error?
When I replied to the 2nd tier tech I told him his method did not work, but asked to look into the account itself. I'll update if I have anything to say.
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Ask to get your case transferred to apps division. There I got real help. They are really good. And have helped me a lot.
There are two possible methods to solve error 927 on android:
Method 1:
Go to settings>>”All”>>Select “Google Play Store”
Now Force Stop>>Clear Data>>Clear Cache
Now again try downloading or updating the app
If the above didn’t work, go to settings>>”All”>>Select “Google Play Store”>>Uninstall Updates
Again, from “All”>> Select “Download Manager”>>Clear Data and Cache
Rerun Google Play Store and install/update your app or game
Method 2:
Go to system settings>> Accounts>>Google>>remove your Gmail account
Now from settings>>Apps>>All> Force stop, Clear data and cache for Google Play Store, Google Service Framework and Download Manager (like in method 1)
Now again go to settings>> Accounts>>Google>>Add your gmail account
Restart your android and then accept all the Google terms and setup Google settings
Rerun Google Play Store and update or install your app.
How to Fix Error 927 in Android
Free Some Space on your device
Clear data and cache files of Google Play Store
Stop or Uninstall Google Play Store (Updates)
Add New Gmail Account
Hope it helped you....
Try the methods below
Free some space on your device
Clear data and cache in Google Play Store
Add new Google account
Uninstall updates of Google Play store
It is the most annoying issue facing by many Android users, that occurs when you download or update any games and apps from the Google play store. But for me, this error solved by the just clear cache.

[Q] Google Talk App Dead?

Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
Pandemic187 said:
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.
I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
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What phone/version are you using?
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.
What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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What phone/version are you using?
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Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.
Royz1911 said:
Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
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Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.
I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.
I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...
I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error
Sorry for my english, is not my native language.
Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?
I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
Royz1911 said:
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?
Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.
I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.
I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.
I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.
If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
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First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
Hephaestus_ said:
Can anyone else confirm that the G-Talk app no longer works/signs in? Whenever I try signing in, all of my contacts and my own contact are permanently grayed out, despite having internet connectivity (tested both over wifi and cellular). When I tried installing Hangouts, this issue was no longer present, Really sucks because Hangouts is a major step backward from Google Talk for obvious reasons (no status messages, shows people who are away/busy as offline, bloated layout, bloated contacts list, doesn't show online status of people you are chatting with in same window, generally confusing UI, etc.)
Tried on Samsung SM-N900T (T-Mobile Note 3) but I do not believe this issue is device specific.
Thanks.
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you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
orl.on.dow said:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
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Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
jethro1138 said:
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
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4.0.33
orl.on.dow said:
4.0.33
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Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
mgl888 said:
What phone/version are you using?
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I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.
Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.
Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.
I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
astralbee said:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
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It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.
Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.

Question Google Pay

Does it work?
Thank you
Yes
Did you try? Thank you
Oh my fault! I read "play"
As I read on the internet "it should work". Can only test it as soon as mine has arrived.
I've set mine up but I don't typically use Google pay. If I have the opportunity to use it I'll let you know. It appears to be functional though.
thank you very much, if you set it up will work !
Also wondering if NA bank apps would also work?
Base on Michael Fisher youtube review...he seems to have issue seting up google pay.
Keen on this phone...anyone who got it please do feed back if it works with google pay for contactless payment.
Yes Please...if anyone has the Find N and can verify if Google Pay works it would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
eijnaix said:
Base on Michael Fisher youtube review...he seems to have issue seting up google pay.
Keen on this phone...anyone who got it please do feed back if it works with google pay for contactless payment.
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I'm wondering if Michael's came pre loaded with Google Apps or if he had to side load them as that may make a difference?
Almost pulled the trigger here in Canada but was waiting for someone to have tried google account sync (contacts and calendar) as well as Google pay. Those that are selling it on eBay and no reviewer has said either work (with proof). Hence why I would love if someone can report back here.
swyner said:
Almost pulled the trigger here in Canada but was waiting for someone to have tried google account sync (contacts and calendar) as well as Google pay. Those that are selling it on eBay and no reviewer has said either work (with proof). Hence why I would love if someone can report back here.
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I just emailed PDAPlaza asking whether or not they can verify that as I have ordered one but didnt think about the issue of the sync…will let you know what I hear back.
Google pay and banking apps all working fine for me
Google pay works fine for me as do all other Google apps.
Anyone seeing what some of the reviewers have said with apps sleeping and no notifications? Any other watch outs for Google apps not behaving?
swyner said:
Anyone seeing what some of the reviewers have said with apps sleeping and no notifications? Any other watch outs for Google apps not behaving?
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have secured a work-around here
MobilejackYT said:
have secured a work-around here
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Ya, Michael Fisher said he did that but for whatever reason, he was still not getting notifications consistently from the apps he did this to. Oh well....guess people have to try it themselves to truly believe it.
I was so excited to get on here and let you know my seller, PDA Plaza has verified that Google Pay indeed works as does syncing of Google accounts such as calendar and contacts but others beat me to it but good news none the less. I now have to wait to get the phone but just a heads up that Constatine at PDA Plaza has been a fantastic help and really great to work with.
There is a setting under the apps menu to allow the app to run as a foreground service. If you select this then app notifications come through instantly everytime just like any other phone. You so have to allow the app to send notifications as it is set to off for each app by default.
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There is a setting under the apps menu to allow the app to run as a foreground service. If you select this then app notifications come through instantly everytime just like any other phone. You so have to allow the app to send notifications as it is set to off for each app by default.
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Yes it is and it works - but it is limited to only 5 apps. I would need a lot more apps to work in the foreground. Any solution?

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