These are just 3 of the features of the phone which are not being made universally available.
Quad-DAC is for Asia only
Wireless charging is for US only
64GB storage is mainly Asia (definitely not EU or US)
For me? Totally not acceptable... Was really looking out to this device.
Why do other parts of the world have to pay premium price for non premium features.
Yes... I would bought it Instantly if it had the DAC.
They have said... We listen to the customers? Haha in Asia maybe? The rest of the world?? We are going to fill our pockets on you.
I would of bought it if it had Wireless charging, the Quad Dac, minimum 64GB storage and upgraded cameras.
As it has none of those for the UK market, I will be skipping it.
Waste of money for UK customers.
Without the DAC for the US? I'll pass and wait for V30. The V20 was a serious game changer for me. The ability to carry a 24\192 device, that even played DSD, was a revelation in portable audio.
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Without the DAC for the US? I'll pass and wait for V30. The V20 was a serious game changer for me. The ability to carry a 24\192 device, that even played DSD, was a revelation in portable audio.
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I think I will decide on two underdogs... Which are capable of Hi-res audio.
Sony XZ Premium or.... The Asus Zenfone AR looks very promising.
I am not a newest chipset chaser... My G4 is also still very capable.
The lack of Quad DAC has put me off, can't believe this
To be honest, I will not purchase a US G6 if that is the case. The charge port is quick enough.
But the DAC is a must!
They must see the trend of Americans moving towards bluetooth audio. But damn I love my wired headphones.
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it is not acceptable. the lg policy is ridiculous and I hope that in Europe the g6 will make a flop. premium price for a neutered phone.
Wonder what the UK get instead of dac.
Anyone know how to order something from Korea or some other state which will have DAC (didnt found exact markets, yet.). I really dig this phone, but its a no-go withou DAC from me, unfortunately.
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These are just 3 of the features of the phone which are not being made universally available.
Quad-DAC is for Asia only
Wireless charging is for US only
64GB storage is mainly Asia (definitely not EU or US)
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Teardown video shows wireless coil can be added. Hopefully some enterprising eBay dealer will install that on some 64GB/DAC models and sell them on eBay...
Sell us the phone that LG should have made in the first place!
Now, just need an Asia model with AT&T bands...
I know with the LG G4 there was a Taiwan model which had TONS of LTE bands including all the AT&T bands. And it had an unlocked bootloader.
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Without the DAC for the US? I'll pass and wait for V30. The V20 was a serious game changer for me. The ability to carry a 24\192 device, that even played DSD, was a revelation in portable audio.
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Screw the V30, if it's any bigger than the LG G6. I don't want a bigger phone just to get better specs.
Doesn't LG understand they are pushing people to the Samsung Galaxy S8?
Just make one LG G 6 with all the high end specs, and sell it to the world. Just because I love Qi wireless doens't mean I also don't want 64GB storage (I have both those features on my current phone, Moto XT1225) and I also want DAC. What's so hard to understand we want ALL the high end specs?
They should have added front facing speakers, while they were at it. Rumors are the S8 will have stereo speakers! (Or maybe one of them?)
Basically, LG should have made a "ZTE Axon 7" -- but with Qi wireless charging! Seriously, go compare the specs of the ZTE Axon 7 to the LG G6. Why can't LG put out a phone like that, for the entire world?
You ask me, LG is preparing to sell the Smartphone department. In a year or so, a CEO will get on the stage and tell the world they tried it all but unfortunately failed. We have seen that in other and comparable industries before. Take Dell, they release the most advanced tablet in the world and somehow "can´t manage to deliver updates". It´s bull****, that´s excuses.
Three different versions of the G6 for different markets. I mean, let´s take a look at this economically. Do you have any idea what that means in terms of production and maintenance? It´s inefficient as hell, its stupid, literally. It´s the same with the LG G4, this fragmentation was a major cost factor.
I really feel like LG is trying to find an excuse to drop smartphones. They knew they had to deliver this year and they failed on purpose. I mean, the world wide response to that was quite foreseeable.
Ha ha....Am from Asia...Finally..will get that DAC with 64gb.... Love the G6 <3
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Teardown video shows wireless coil can be added. Hopefully some enterprising eBay dealer will install that on some 64GB/DAC models and sell them on eBay...
Sell us the phone that LG should have made in the first place!
Now, just need an Asia model with AT&T bands...
I know with the LG G4 there was a Taiwan model which had TONS of LTE bands including all the AT&T bands. And it had an unlocked bootloader.
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Screw the V30, if it's any bigger than the LG G6. I don't want a bigger phone just to get better specs.
Doesn't LG understand they are pushing people to the Samsung Galaxy S8?
Just make one LG G 6 with all the high end specs, and sell it to the world. Just because I love Qi wireless doens't mean I also don't want 64GB storage (I have both those features on my current phone, Moto XT1225) and I also want DAC. What's so hard to understand we want ALL the high end specs?
They should have added front facing speakers, while they were at it. The S8 will have stereo speakers!
Basically, LG should have made a "ZTE Axon 7" -- but with Qi wireless charging! Seriously, go compare the specs of the ZTE Axon 7 to the LG G6. Why can't LG put out a phone like that, for the entire world?
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Illux said:
You ask me, LG is preparing to sell the Smartphone department. In a year or so, a CEO will get on the stage and tell the world they tried it all but unfortunately failed. We have seen that in other and comparable industries before. Take Dell, they release the most advanced tablet in the world and somehow "can´t manage to deliver updates". It´s bull****, that´s excuses.
Three different versions of the G6 for different markets. I mean, let´s take a look at this economically. Do you have any idea what that means in terms of production and maintenance? It´s inefficient as hell, its stupid, literally. It´s the same with the LG G4, this fragmentation was a major cost factor.
I really feel like LG is trying to find an excuse to drop smartphones. They knew they had to deliver this year and they failed on purpose. I mean, the world wide response to that was quite foreseeable.
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I'm sick and tired of LG messing around with all those different versions of the same phone. More memory for this part of the world, Dac here, wireless charging there...
Are they thinking that they are cutting cost by choosing which region gets what they think fits our needs most?
I'd love to know who exactly (from lg) is in charge of this mess, well did they atleast put out 1 version which includes all of the extra features for the people who are willing to pay a lil more for? No
Been with lg ever since the g2, everything else after that looks to me like a big testing area. flex series, g3-4-5 and now 6, stylo n what not. The whole picture ain't clear as to what exactly they wanted to do.
Anyways thats too much salt that even lg aint worth. Currently using my old g4 as my g5 screen shattered the other day. Need a new phone and im sure its not gonna be lg that will be getting my money. With the last ad i thought maybe they truly are listening but guess its as fake as they ever were.
Next viable option would be an s8 , Huawei/oneplus/sony/Htc/Nokia maybe?
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The DAC was the one feature I was hoping for when moving from my G5. It was also the one thing that would have stopped me looming at thd S8.
I'd import but I've heard LG aren't interested in honouring any warranty if i do.
Think ill stick with the G5 a while longer now.
Jonathan-H said:
I would of bought it if it had Wireless charging, the Quad Dac, minimum 64GB storage and upgraded cameras.
As it has none of those for the UK market, I will be skipping it.
Waste of money for UK customers.
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Yes i agree, I imported the Korean version which has the 64gb storage and the 32bit
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Jooosty said:
To be honest, I will not purchase a US G6 if that is the case. The charge port is quick enough.
But the DAC is a must!
They must see the trend of Americans moving towards bluetooth audio. But damn I love my wired headphones.
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So do I i love using my high resistance audiophile headphones on my imported LG G6 fantastic dac
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Wonder what the UK get instead of dac.
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Carach_CZ said:
Anyone know how to order something from Korea or some other state which will have DAC (didnt found exact markets, yet.). I really dig this phone, but its a no-go withou DAC from me, unfortunately.
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Use Wonda Mobile i have ordered my last 20 phone's from them, they are great, I just got my Korean LG G6 from them, tell them Tech Zilla sent you
Does anyone know for sure if the Korean model will be unlocked and support all the bands (GSM/LTE) that are used by AT&T?
I have the G5 (RS988) that is the unlocked model at works on all US carriers. It appears there will be the same with for the G6 (listed on BHPhoto). But I'm more interested in 64GB and the Quad DAC than wireless charging.
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Does anyone know for sure if the Korean model will be unlocked and support all the bands (GSM/LTE) that are used by AT&T?
I have the G5 (RS988) that is the unlocked model at works on all US carriers. It appears there will be the same with for the G6 (listed on BHPhoto). But I'm more interested in 64GB and the Quad DAC than wireless charging.
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No. The official specs for the Korean models (there are three, for various carriers) do not show all the AT&T bands. One model shows LTE band 17, but that's it.
The major AT&T LTE bands are 2, 4, 5, 12/17.
G600L: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B7 (2600) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300) -
G600S: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B17 (700 bc) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300)
G600K: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B8 (900) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300)
However, one guy on T-Mobile claims he's getting LTE band 4 with one of the Korean phones, so it's possible official specs are not complete? This happens sometimes just to prevent people from doing what you want to do.
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I have experience with this "incomplete official specs" also -- with my 2014 Moto XT1225. I'm on AT&T and bought three of them from other countries. Basically the 5.2" version of the 2014 Moto Nexus 6, official Motorola specs initially listed 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 but the FCC also found LTE band 5 (another AT&T band). (Had to be certified for Puerto Rico which is a U.S. territory.) So, the Moto XT12225 had ALL the AT&T LTE bands (2, 3, 5, 17) when released in 2014, but for some reason (Verizon?) Motorola didn't want to admit it. They also left off a T-mobile HSPA band, which the FCC found. Who knows why? My LTE Discovery app confirms it's there and many Canadian users also confirm LTE band 5 on the Moto XT1225...
See, the Moto XT12225 was the "international" version of the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 -- so having all the AT&T LTE bands maybe would embarrassingly prove that phone was not world-wide exclusive to Verizon and would work just fine on AT&T? Which is exactly why I bought THREE of them -- from Mexico and Puerto Rico!
Anyway, a few months later when the phone launched in India (Moto Turbo XT1225), Motorola FINALLY admitted all the LTE bands and HSPA bands on their India Motorola website. Motorola also updated their specs on their Motorola website in Brazil (another country where it was sold), but did not update the specs for Chile or Mexico websites -- even though it's exactly the same phone in all countries (Mexico, Puerto Rico, Chile, Brazil, India) with the same FCC ID. As a result, even to this day many, many phone spec websites like GSMArena or PhoneArena still do NOT list those extra LTE and HSPA bands for the XT1225, even though they were there from the very beginning -- because they used Motorola's "official" specs press release which was strangely incomplete.
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No. The official specs for the Korean models (there are three, for various carriers) do not show all the AT&T bands. One model shows LTE band 17, but that's it.
G600L: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B7 (2600) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300) -
G600S: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B17 (700 bc) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300)
G600K: B1 (2100) / B3 (1800 +) / B5 (850) / B8 (900) / B38 (TD 2600) / B40 (TD 2300)
However, one guy on T-Mobile claims he's getting LTE band 4, so it's possible official specs are not complete. This happens sometimes just to prevent people from doing what you want to do.
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I don't get why LG just can't make one G6 model or the US that would work with all carriers, have the 64GB, Quad DAC, and wireless charging.
The way it is now, doesn't look got be a major step up from my G5 except for the screen. And the Korean modes on eBay may not work with all of the ATT (or T-Mobile) bands.
I'm going to wait and see how things play out with the S8.
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I don't get why LG just can't make one G6 model or the US that would work with all carriers, have the 64GB, Quad DAC, and wireless charging.
The way it is now, doesn't look got be a major step up from my G5 except for the screen. And the Korean modes on eBay may not work with all of the ATT (or T-Mobile) bands.
I'm going to wait and see how things play out with the S8.
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Right. While the U.S. likes Qi wireless charging (I won't buy a phone without it), we also like audio enhancements and more storage. STUPID LG. (and I'm an LG fan,)
LG should make ONE phone with all the specs for the entire world and sell it.
Allegedly LG will soon sell an "unlocked" version to the U.S. -- which WILL work with all carriers. I WISH it would have Qi wireless, DAC, and 64GB storage. But I don't trust LG to be that smart. They've really gone off the rails since the LG G2.
LG G6 Latest News: Unlocked U.S. Version is Coming Soon
http://www.droidreport.com/articles...locked-version-us-released-is-coming-soon.htm
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Supposed to have GSM+CDMA + LTE bands for the big 3 (Tmobile, Verizon, ATT : 2/4/5/12/13/17, pentaband 3G)
ATT likes to whitelist phones for LTE/HD Voice (if this phone isn't on their whitelist, you need to jump through hoops to get LTE access, and very difficult get HD Voice/VoLTE to work properly)
Sprint has some issues too(5X/6P doesn't have wifi calling on Sprint), and you kinda want 2xCA/3xCA no sprint, so pointless to talk about them
Verizon - they are required to allow band 13 devices if device passes technical certificate. (points to HTC One A9 and them cancelling Verizon VoLTE support)
T-mobile - They want devices to pass their VoLTE technical cert process. Otherwise they demand manufacturers to disable band 12 (due to concerns of no 911 if you only have band 12 LTE data, and phone doesn't drop to another carrier for 911). Similar issues with Wifi calling (Moto X Pure doesn't have wifi calling)
B&H lists phone to be release in April/May, can't find any FCC docs yet
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
Under Q&A, Steve (staff at B&H) says there is band 12 VoLTE support, but do you trust him?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-RS988-Silver-g5
LG actually has it on the website.
I still wouldn't trust B&H nor LG until someone has a RS988 model on hand to confirm it.
The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
b&h said the phone is expected to be released by may 11th, i wander if anyone else is going to sale it?
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Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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Bands 26 and 41 are only needed for tri-band LTE Plus / Spark connectivity. Band 25 (which this LRA model has) is Sprint's primary LTE band. I suspect that either one of the LRA carriers has its own Band 25 network, or has a roaming agreement with Sprint but only has roaming access to Band 25.
For Sprint customers, the bigger issue is whether Sprint will allow it on their network. I recall that when the Moto X Pure was first released, people had to request Sprint to add the device's IMEI to the approved device database in order to use it on Sprint. I suspect that reps won't as easily add another carrier's variant of the G5 to their approved database, when Sprint is selling its own model.
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The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
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Thanks a bunch for this information
I knew for a while something was off with the R and figured it signified something else since the name is so drastically different than the other phones in this lineup.
I went to see the phone in person, it's pretty nice, I like the Titan color, the gold is too light
B&H bootloader
I emailed B&H last week with questions, one concerning bootloader; It took 5 days for an answer but a tech support guy named Adam replied that it was unlocked; I emailed him back, asking if he knew the difference between unlocked sims and bootloader and he replied back and confirmed he did and bootloader was unlocked; This info is likely unreliable but the fact B&H doesn't have a vested interest in carriers and this would give them an edge on sales, we can still have hope. I won't be able to buy one until May when their stock come in though
Wow, it's going to be available on Amazon starting May 1
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DJE22C2...olid=K5RKTG1CO0AE&coliid=I1T763APP0P7E3&psc=1
Guess others will be getting it as well.
Amazon now listed for rs988 G5
thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
also check out the lte bands to be sure they are supported by the carrier you intend to use (mostly look good but a few specialty bands aren't there - there is another xda link to that but I can't remember the thread
The good thing about Shipped and Sold by Amazon.com these devices go on sale quick. For example, the Xperia Z5 went on sale at $599.99 and in about two weeks fell to $539.99.
$600 on Sale would be a nice sweet spot for this phone.
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thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
excellent, thanks - so it appears you can get both silver and titan from B&H (probably from Amazon also) Did you see if bootloader was locked (I figured it would be and the salesman who twice told me it was unlocked and that he knew what the bootloader meant, was yanking my chain....
There is an option to OEM Unlock in the developers settings. How to verify bootloader is unlocked?
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sm partition disk:179,0 private worked to make the SD adoptable - migrated data, all looks fine.
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adb reboot bootloader doesn't put it into fastboot mode, adb reboot recovery gives the dead droid logo
The bootloader question would better be answered by the Guru's as it was first thought that the T-Mobile variant was unlocked but turned out not to actually be truly unlocked - I suspect it will be the same as the T-Mobile version - unlockable but not actually unlocked (If LG gives us the codes) I have sent several emails to LG concerning this and basically told them that, if they are truly "developer friendly" now is the time to prove it.... (diplomatically of course) I fear that the idea of modular phones won't take off if they keep the software locked down and don't follow through with the promises.
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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I bought this from B&H and I'm not sure about the light bleed (I consider it a fringe issue), but the chin alignment is pretty good and the screen warp is still an issue
Anyone have any luck with getting volte to work on tmobile i have been trying and not having any luck
After previously having a SGS4 GT-i9505(intl) as my daily driver, I'm keen to go for whichever is the most popular phone for rooting and developing for (e.g. CM, etc).... and after having a fair old headache with my S5 Prime (Korean) in Europe, where LTE Band 20 is essential...
I'm in the UK, definitely want one of the Snapdragon 820 variants and not bothered about dual SIM.
So I'm guessing my choices are: H820, H830, H850, H860?
Based on Techwalls, I'm guessing not H840/H848 (lower spec and restricted to Chinese frequencies) and probably not 860N as it sacrifices WiFi performance for a SIM slot I'll never use.
It looks like the H850 is a safe bet based on this?
Any preferences / opinions?
No rush, - I'm not buying until I'm confident of being able to root it at least
Worryingly: there's no Mokee/CM builds yet.... might and use one of those as the indicator which will have the best following.
I don't understand why you are considering any other variants than the 850? Very good chance.. if not total chance.. it will be available to unlock the bootloader officially through the LG website. Then just install TWRP and root.
So far only the 850 has the official bootloader unlock option.
Well. The H830 has unlockable bootloader too. And root and TWRP has been achieved. I think that you should choose between H850 and H830. Both of them are getting almost the same amount of development. They still have few, but give them some time and it will improve, probably alot!
H850... More bands, sim unlocked out of the box, root,twrp, fewer reports of build quality issues, receive more value for your money with LG's included headphones and many sites are still selling H850 paired with b&o headphones too, oh yeah and don't forget about the two year warranty the H850 gets from LG that none of the US variants have!
Here is the only link u need, cloveUK, read their reviews they are great:
https://m.clove.co.uk/lg-g5
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Well. The H830 has unlockable bootloader too. And root and TWRP has been achieved. I think that you should choose between H850 and H830. Both of them are getting almost the same amount of development. They still have few, but give them some time and it will improve, probably alot!
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That is true but if asking about a UK purchase then the native D850 would be the obvious choice.
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That is true but if asking about a UK purchase then the native D850 would be the obvious choice.
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H830 has more 3g frequencies than h850. H850 has more 4g frequencies than h830. H830 and h850 have band 20 both. H830 is cheaper but with less of the extra accesories. Depending from where you buy it you can get the 360 camera. H850 is more expensive despite they both have almost same specs. But that also includes the accesories that dont usually come with the g5 in USA, and also a specific warranty. Soooo. I think everything dependa of how much he have saved. Also, whether he would actually want the extra accesories or not.
H850 even... typo, oops.
Thanks guys - admittedly I'd only looked at the headline specs and decided that something that could stand shoulder to shoulder with a Galaxy S7 in most respects, with the bonuses of IR and no TouchWiz would be a really interesting phone.
I don't intend travelling so much that I'd have to scramble around for every last 3G frequency - most likely only around Europe (France/Spain) and South Africa, so it sounds like the H850 would be the top choice: as according to Wikipedia, these are the frequencies used on the Vodafone UK network:
900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE. LTE 2G/4G900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+ 3G2100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+. LTE 3G/4G800 MHz LTE 4G2600 MHz LTE Advanced 4G
I'll fish around for a little longer before taking the plunge, but really looking forward to it!!
One more question: Before I buy one of these only to find out that my perfect phone is around the corner: is there any sign of a "compact" version on the LG roadmap (like Sony do with their Xperia Z-phones) - I'm after the most compact phone possible without sacrificing power/RAM/storage/features - I really don't mind sacrificing a bit of screen res if the phone still has the rest of the features the same AND fits into a smaller package...
My LG G3's screen is now on the fritz.
Looking to replace my phone since my carrier no longer has them and is offering me a Galaxy S5 instead (yuck).
For those of us in the US on T-Mobile, is it worth getting the 64GB international model of the Honor 7 or wait until Honor 8 comes out in a few weeks?
Depends on price I guess. The phone itself is very nice, I'm very happy with it. The H8 will probably be even better so unless the H7 is cheap enough you might want to wait. Note: I'm not from the US, since you asked for that.
I recently got a H7 to replace my dying G3 and I'm happy with it, especially for the price.
I can safely say an excellent device. One of my best purchases. Great build quality. Beautiful screen. Performance is excellent. Battery life is good. And the fingerprint sensor is one of the best. Can't go wrong at the price as well
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I recently got a H7 to replace my dying G3 and I'm happy with it, especially for the price.
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Thanks guys!
I'm so close to getting this phone I can taste it.
Waiting to see how they're going to announce the specs of the US based Honor 8 and see how they're going to launch it in our carriers.
For me which bands it supports will make or break my choice....
Which bands do the EU and Chinese Honor 7a support?
Are they the same or different?
These are the bands supported in Europe, I don't know about the Chinese variant as I'm using European:
Code:
[B]2G-GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G-HSDPA 900, 1900, 2100
4G-LTE 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800)[/B]
I hope this helps you.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr....H0.XLG+G6+plus.TRS0&_nkw=LG+G6+plus&_sacat=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76urOUYEj0
We can buy it at shop in Asia already (Thailand) Blue colour 4Gb Ram/128Gb Rom, cost about (20,000 Thai Baht). The normal 64Gb Rom/4Gb ram cost (14,500 Thai Baht). They come with the Dac I think.
You can buy it in HKG or Singapur too, but it's different model than one on YouTube. The Korean guy shows Korean LGM-G600SP. The Asia LG-H870DSU has no wireless charging and B&O headphones.
LG G6 Plus WITH Qi Wireless Charging
Montechristo said:
You can buy it in HKG or Singapur too, but it's different model than one on YouTube.
The Korean guy shows Korean LGM-G600SP.
The Asia LG-H870DSU has no wireless charging and B&O headphones.
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You are correct that not all LG G6 Plus models have Qi wireless charging. I would want Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without it.
These are the South Korean market models (below) with Qi wireless charging. Here's the Qi wireless database search results that prove it. You can also search on the LG South Korean website for those model numbers and use Google Translate to look at the specs.
LGM-G600KP
LGM-G600SP
LGM-G600LP
Problem is the "official" specs do not show all the LTE bands these phones really get. So, it's a leap of faith to buy if you live in the U.S., for instance.
I know, because of people here in the U.S. who bought the Korean regular G6 (not the G6+) and who the models for those South Korean carriers (KP, SP, LP) DO actually get all the AT&T and T-mobile bands -- but just don't show it on the LG Korean website official specs.
Also, I don't want to buy phones I can't root, so I would have to wait until I KNEW I could root one of these LG South Korean market phones.
There's no official bootloader unlock for any of the LG G6 Plus models (yet).
There's also the LG H870U, an LG G6 Plus coming to Europe and other countries. THIS website below says it has Qi wireless charging but I think that's just wishful thinking -- since it's not listed in the Qi devices database I linked in the post above.
LG H870U
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/lg-g6-h870.3021/lg-g6-plus-lg-h870u.839097.html
However, if true, I would gladly buy it, as the European versions of the LG G6 can be bootloader unlocked, yes?
Hi guys, I have blue LG G6+ H870DSU http://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-H870DSU-Blue-128GB and it has B&O headphones, FM radio and quad DAC audio but doesn't has useless Qi wireless charging. Quick charging only works with AC/DC charger, through USB it takes 6h to fully battery recharge. Korean version has DMB-T TV, Qi wireless charging but no FM radio. If you have questions about my phone H870DSU just ask.
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11813&c=lg_h870dsu_g6plus_dual_sim_td-lte__lg_diva
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11780&c=lg_g600kp_g6plus_td-lte__lg_diva
Actually I have LG G6 Plus optical Black, quick charging work faster overall good specif actions and also wide angle front camera.
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LG G6 Plus WITH Qi Wireless Charging
You are correct that not all LG G6 Plus models have Qi wireless charging. I would want Qi wireless charging. I won't buy a phone without it.
These are the South Korean market models (below) with Qi wireless charging. Here's the Qi wireless database search results that prove it. You can also search on the LG South Korean website for those model numbers and use Google Translate to look at the specs.
LGM-G600KP
LGM-G600SP
LGM-G600LP
Problem is the "official" specs do not show all the LTE bands these phones really get. So, it's a leap of faith to buy if you live in the U.S., for instance.
I know, because of people here in the U.S. who bought the Korean regular G6 (not the G6+) and who the models for those South Korean carriers (KP, SP, LP) DO actually get all the AT&T and T-mobile bands -- but just don't show it on the LG Korean website official specs.
Also, I don't want to buy phones I can't root, so I would have to wait until I KNEW I could root one of these LG South Korean market phones.
There's no official bootloader unlock for any of the LG G6 Plus models (yet).
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Hmmm, this is new to me. Can you specify which Korean G6 has all the T-Mobile bands in your experience? I want a G6 with the hiFi DAC, but I also need the TMobile bands.
Do these models have bootloader's that can be unlocked? I NEED to have root also.
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Hmmm, this is new to me. Can you specify which Korean G6 has all the T-Mobile bands in your experience? I want a G6 with the hiFi DAC, but I also need the TMobile bands.
Do these models have bootloader's that can be unlocked? I NEED to have root also.
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Amazon has an LG G6 plus model with lockscreen ads. Works perfectly on Ting Wireless with GSM sim, so I bet it would work on T-mobile. Model: LGUS997U.
There is an option to unlock the bootloader in developer options, would this allow you to flash a new ROM?
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Hmmm, this is new to me. Can you specify which Korean G6 has all the T-Mobile bands in your experience? I want a G6 with the hiFi DAC, but I also need the TMobile bands.
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Here's the LTE bands from any of the three South Korean carriers' LG G6 from a member here on XDA. The V30 Plus should be the same. You can go into the Engineering menu and see them. IF they are not already enabled (but they should be), you can checkmark the box to enable them. The only T-mobile bands the South Korean LG G6 models do not have are the newer LTE band 66 and very newest LTE band 71. In fact, only the T-mobile LG V30 has LTE band 71. (It's possible the LG G6 Plus may have LTE band 66 since it was released MONTHS later, but we know it doesn't have LTE band 71.)
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Engineering menu:
Dialer: 5457#*600#
Lte bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/38/39/40/41
Wcdma (HSPA) bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1 (2100)/2(1900)/5(850)
Gsm bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1800/900/850/1900
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Do these models have bootloader's that can be unlocked? I NEED to have root also.
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NO, these bootloaders cannot be unlocked, at least officially and no one has published a bootloader unlock and root publicly (yet). The only LG G6 bootloaders that can be unlocked and phones rooted are the "open market" LG G6 for North America and Europe. None of the "G6 Plus" are on the official bootloader unlock list. (For 2017, LG has removed most of the ADB commands from their carrier flagship phones, so that even if you unlock the bootloader, it's very difficult for most people to root or install custom recovery.)
Also, none of the "open market" LG G6 have quad DAC or the increased internal storage. This was the reason I didn't buy the LG G6, due to LG's STUPID regionalized specs scheme. It was a great phone on paper -- but LG cut that paper into pieces and shipped it to countries all over the world. You could NOT buy an LG G6 with ALL the specs.
Then the LG G6 Plus (South Korean edition) -- released MONTHS later in mid-2017 -- was the phone LG should have released in the first place in early 2017. It FINALLY had all the specs in one phone (Qi wireless, quad DAC, more storage) -- but LG wouldn't place it on the LG Bootloader Unlock List. And LG wonders why they are trailing Samsung? Idiotic moves like that is why.
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I want a G6 with the hiFi DAC, but I also need the TMobile bands.
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If you need root and quad DAC, I would really suggest the "open market" LG V30 for North America. It will be released first week of December (sold by LG directly, and authorized 3rd party retailers like Amazon, B&H Photo and Best Buy) and soon after that will be placed on the LG Bootloader Unlock list. It will quickly get root, TWRP, ROMs, kernels.
It's the OFFICIAL CARRIER UNLOCKED VERSION: LGUS998.AUSASV. Do NOT confuse it with the U.S. Cellular version which has a similar model name. The U.S. Cellular version is sold by a carrier and will NOT qualify for LG's bootloader unlock.
We know the LGUS998 has all the North American CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands of the major carriers, with the probable exception of LTE band 71. We're hoping LG will add it to the model via an FCC addendum or that it can be enabled after the phone is rooted, possibly by flashing T-mobile radio. But that's a question for a dev after we get root.
That's the V30 model I am waiting for.
B&H has the US version of the G6+ on sale for $200 off.
Does anyone know if this model fully supports T-Mobile including Band 12 ?
Also, whether the G6 bootloader unlock indicated on LG bootloader unlock list ("US997.USA for the US open market") also works for this US version of the G6+ ?
B&H model number comparisons of the two US models::
G6: LGUS997.AUSABK
G6+ : LGUS997U.AUSABK
TIA...
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Also, whether the G6 bootloader unlock indicated on LG bootloader unlock list ("US997.USA for the US open market") also works for this US version of the G6+ ?
G6: LGUS997.AUSABK
G6+ : LGUS997U.AUSABK
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Is the G6 "AUSABK" definitely the officially unlockable one?
I'm looking to buy one of these soon. I am on tmobile/metropcs so I would need the H932 or the US998. I do plan on rooting and most likely would prefer to unlock bootloader. I know the H932 doesn't play nicely with the other variants but I'm confident I could get it rooted and everything. I also saw that the v30 has band 77, which tmobile has been rolling out, and the v30+ doesn't.
My question to you who already own these devices is, do you recommend just getting the v30 or are there any advantages to possibly spending a bit more on the v30+?
Thanks for your opinions.
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I'm looking to buy one of these soon. I am on tmobile/metropcs so I would need the H932 or the US998. I do plan on rooting and most likely would prefer to unlock bootloader. I know the H932 doesn't play nicely with the other variants but I'm confident I could get it rooted and everything. I also saw that the v30 has band 77, which tmobile has been rolling out, and the v30+ doesn't.
My question to you who already own these devices is, do you recommend just getting the v30 or are there any advantages to possibly spending a bit more on the v30+?
Thanks for your opinions.
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From what I know (and gathered when doing my own research before buying) the V30+ only has the additional storage over the base v30.
Everything else about the phone (as far as I'm aware) is identical. I don't see why the V30+ would be missing a band, especially one the base v30 has.
Redline said:
From what I know (and gathered when doing my own research before buying) the V30+ only has the additional storage over the base v30.
Everything else about the phone (as far as I'm aware) is identical. I don't see why the V30+ would be missing a band, especially one the base v30 has.
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Sites like gsmarena and frequency check don't list band 77 for the v30+ so I'm just going off of sites like that. I do realise the internal storage is the main difference when comparing the two versions but I wasn't sure if ease of rooting or some other variables may be present to help sway your (and my) decision.
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Sites like gsmarena and frequency check don't list band 77 for the v30+ so I'm just going off of sites like that. I do realise the internal storage is the main difference when comparing the two versions but I wasn't sure if ease of rooting or some other variables may be present to help sway your (and my) decision.
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I'd be on the safe side of assuming you won't miss anything over the base v30.
Ease of rooting is just the same.
sirganon said:
I'm looking to buy one of these soon. I am on tmobile/metropcs so I would need the H932 or the US998. I do plan on rooting and most likely would prefer to unlock bootloader. I know the H932 doesn't play nicely with the other variants but I'm confident I could get it rooted and everything. I also saw that the v30 has band 77, which tmobile has been rolling out, and the v30+ doesn't.
My question to you who already own these devices is, do you recommend just getting the v30 or are there any advantages to possibly spending a bit more on the v30+?
Thanks for your opinions.
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Sites like gsmarena and frequency check don't list band 77 for the v30+ so I'm just going off of sites like that. I do realise the internal storage is the main difference when comparing the two versions but I wasn't sure if ease of rooting or some other variables may be present to help sway your (and my) decision.
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Two corrections:
* It's LTE band 71 U.S. T-mobile has, not 77.
* In many cases the V30+ is about the same price as the H932 V30, if you are talking about North America variants. That LS998 V30+ (easily converted to US998 V30+) is actually $20 less than the H932 V30. Yes, that's "manufacturer refurbished" vs "new" but my experience with prices on these is the V30+ does not really cost more on sites like eBay.
You are right that only the U.S. T-Mobile H932 has LTE band 71. No other V30/V30+/V30S variant in the world have that band, as only U.S. T-Mobile needs it (or needed it when the V30 was released). It was brand new at the time the V30 was being introduced (late 2017) and U.S. T-Mobile made a big deal how it was exclusive to the their carrier-branded H932. H932 was the first phone in the world to have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 and still is the only V30/V30+/V30S to have that band. (Some early tweets from U.S. T-mobile made us believe the open market US998 V30/V30+ would have it also... but alas it didn't. If you dig deep enough, you may see posts hoping that was true or that it could be enabled with root.)
Having said that, most phones being used on U.S. T-Mobile network still do not have LTE band 71 (pre-2018 phones), and there are many US998 V30/V30+/V30S users in this forum who are on U.S. T-Mobile or U.S. T-Mobile MVNOs.
U.S. T-Mobile actually did sell a 128GB V30+ H932 (with LTE band 71, of course) for a LIMITED time, in addition to their 64GB V30. It was a marketing promotion a couple of months after the V30 H932 was released. Then it went away. Some of these H932 V30+ might pop up on eBay, but would only be a few. Or here for allegedly new in box H932 V30+.
Yes, the H932 seems a little harder to root than the other variants. (My opinion.) You can't use the WTF method, since the H932 doesn't have fastboot flash commands and you can't convert it (even temporarily) to a variant which has fastboot flash commands. So, you have to use the other method developed for the H932. But it can be done and has been done by many. If you do use T-Mobile, then that might be what you're most happy with.
When buying an H932 for U.S. T-mobile, make sure it's H932SV. There's also an H932PR for Claro carrier in Puerto Rico and that variant does NOT have LTE band 71 for U.S. T-mobile. I'm only mentioning it because it IS out there and you may run across it on eBay. If you want LTE band 71, you want the H932SV. (For those who do have the Claro/Puerto Rico H932PR, it can be rooted through WTF and Frankenstein converted to other North American models, while the U.S. T-mobile H932SV can not.)
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This next part is not just about the H932, but all V30/V30+/V30S....
Different V30/V30+ variants for various carriers/world regions have different bands. For instances, there are bands the North American V30/V30+ variants have which the H930 (V30)/H930G (V30+) or H930D (V30)/H930DS (V30+) does not. H930/H930G doesn't have LTE band 2 and the H930D/H930DS doesn't have LTE band 2 nor LTE band 4. You wouldn't want to buy an H930/H930G or H930D/H930DS to use in U.S. or Canada. Some of the Korean variants are also missing necessary bands for North America.
Even among the North American variants, there are bands the AT&T H931 or Sprint LS998 has which the US998 does not have. In most cases you can convert (Frankenstein) one variant to another to get those bands (if you really need them) -- either before or after root -- but with the T-mobile H932 you cannot do that, as it has different RSA encryption from all the other variants.
But the only hardware difference between V30/V30+ is extra internal memory -- 64GB vs 128GB. Unlike other OEMs (like Samsung), where + denotes larger physical size, with LG the + on the V30 series is only more internal memory. (The V30+ models also came with LG-branded or B&O-branded earbuds of questionable value. They don't even trigger HIM. You are better off with these or these, which have the necessary impendent to trigger HIM on quad DAC.)
However, there is a US998 V30S (released in early 2018), which has 128GB internal memory with 6GB RAM. The V30S is basically a "V30+" with more RAM. The official model number is US998R (for more RAM).
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Two corrections:
* It's LTE band 71 U.S. T-mobile has, not 77.
* In many cases the V30+ is about the same price as the H932 V30, if you are talking about North America variants. That LS998 V30+ (easily converted to US998 V30+) is actually $20 less than the H932 V30. Yes, that's "manufacturer refurbished" vs "new" but my experience with prices on these is the V30+ does not really cost more on sites like eBay.
You are right that only the U.S. T-Mobile H932 has LTE band 71. No other V30/V30+/V30S variant in the world have that band, as only U.S. T-Mobile needs it (or needed it when the V30 was released). It was brand new at the time the V30 was being introduced (late 2017) and U.S. T-Mobile made a big deal how it was exclusive to the their carrier-branded H932. H932 was the first phone in the world to have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 and still is the only V30/V30+/V30S to have that band. (Some early tweets from U.S. T-mobile made us believe the open market US998 V30/V30+ would have it also... but alas it didn't. If you dig deep enough, you may see posts hoping that was true or that it could be enabled with root.)
Having said that, most phones being used on U.S. T-Mobile network still do not have LTE band 71 (pre-2018 phones), and there are many US998 V30/V30+/V30S users in this forum who are on U.S. T-Mobile or U.S. T-Mobile MVNOs.
U.S. T-Mobile actually did sell a 128GB V30+ H932 (with LTE band 71, of course) for a LIMITED time, in addition to their 64GB V30. It was a marketing promotion a couple of months after the V30 H932 was released. Then it went away. Some of these H932 V30+ might pop up on eBay, but would only be a few. Or here for allegedly new in box H932 V30+.
Yes, the H932 seems a little harder to root than the other variants. (My opinion.) You can't use the WTF method, since the H932 doesn't have fastboot flash commands and you can't convert it (even temporarily) to a variant which has fastboot flash commands. So, you have to use the other method developed for the H932. But it can be done and has been done by many. If you do use T-Mobile, then that might be what you're most happy with.
When buying an H932 for U.S. T-mobile, make sure it's H932SV. There's also an H932PR for Claro carrier in Puerto Rico and that variant does NOT have LTE band 71 for U.S. T-mobile. I'm only mentioning it because it IS out there and you may run across it on eBay. If you want LTE band 71, you want the H932SV. (For those who do have the Claro/Puerto Rico H932PR, it can be rooted through WTF and Frankenstein converted to other North American models, while the U.S. T-mobile H932SV can not.)
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This next part is not just about the H932, but all V30/V30+/V30S....
Different V30/V30+ variants for various carriers/world regions have different bands. For instances, there are bands the North American V30/V30+ variants have which the H930 (V30)/H930G (V30+) or H930D (V30)/H930DS (V30+) does not. H930/H930G doesn't have LTE band 2 and the H930D/H930DS doesn't have LTE band 2 nor LTE band 4. You wouldn't want to buy an H930/H930G or H930D/H930DS to use in U.S. or Canada. Some of the Korean variants are also missing necessary bands for North America.
Even among the North American variants, there are bands the AT&T H931 or Sprint LS998 has which the US998 does not have. In most cases you can convert (Frankenstein) one variant to another to get those bands (if you really need them) -- either before or after root -- but with the T-mobile H932 you cannot do that, as it has different RSA encryption from all the other variants.
But the only hardware difference between V30/V30+ is extra internal memory -- 64GB vs 128GB. Unlike other OEMs (like Samsung), where + denotes larger physical size, with LG the + on the V30 series is only more internal memory. (The V30+ models also came with LG-branded or B&O-branded earbuds of questionable value. They don't even trigger HIM. You are better off with these or these, which have the necessary impendent to trigger HIM on quad DAC.)
However, there is a US998 V30S (released in early 2018), which has 128GB internal memory with 6GB RAM. The V30S is basically a "V30+" with more RAM. The official model number is US998R (for more RAM).
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Thanks for all this info! I did mean band 71. It was late when writing my previous posts so I was thinking 61 & 77 instead of 66 & 71.
I'll read through this a few times to make sure I fully understand the differences of the variants and make my decision after that. Greatly appreciated!
I have a T-Mobile V30+. The only difference from the V30 is 128GB internal storage and black color backing. The V30 has a silver colored back. I live in Southern California and I haven't been able to get band 71 reception in the rural areas outside Los Angeles and San Diego. I also didn't get Band 71 reception when I went visited the outskirts of Portland, Oregon and San Francisco/Sacramento. Band 71 is meant for very rural areas, so having it may be a moot point based on your location.
Buy a Sim unlocked att v35 off ebay. When cross flashed to the Google Fi variant, the secret menu lists band 71. Im on a us998 conversion v30 with TMobile and migrating to the v35 for SD845 with 6 gigs of ram, slightly better cameras and band 71 is well worth it. They are going for ~300usd. @runningnak3d just got one and is hot on the bootloader unlock trail.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/how-to/bring-to-speed-trying-to-root-t3909527
Edit: Also band 71 isn't just for rural locations. TMobile invested almost 8 billion dollars in the spectrum the other year and will be rolling it out nation wide. I'm in NorCal and the reason it's not in California yet is because the TV stations that currently occupy the bandwidth that TMobile will refarm are scheduled later than other areas to shut down. It's scheduled here for q2 2019. I think LA is still a year or two out though. Point is TMobile didn't invest that kind of cheese to only help people in the sticks out.
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Buy a Sim unlocked att v35 off ebay. When cross flashed to the Google Fi variant, the secret menu lists band 71. Im on a us998 conversion v30 with TMobile and migrating to the v35 for SD845, slightly better cameras and band 71 is well worth it. They are going for ~300usd. @runningnak3d just got one and is hot on the bootloader unlock trail.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/how-to/bring-to-speed-trying-to-root-t3909527
Edit: Also band 71 isn't just for rural locations. TMobile invested almost 8 billion dollars in the spectrum the other year and will be rolling it out nation wide. I'm in NorCal and the reason it's not in California yet is because the TV stations that currently occupy the bandwidth that TMobile will refarm are scheduled later than other areas to shut down. It's scheduled here for q2 2019. I think LA is still a year or two out though. Point is TMobile didn't invest that kind of cheese to only help people in the sticks out.
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I'll definitely take a look at this one when I can, thanks!
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Im on a us998 conversion v30 with TMobile and migrating to the v35 for SD845 with 6 gigs of ram, slightly better cameras.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing, but the wide angle lens on the V35 (107°) is narrower than the V30 (120°). That's a deal breaker for me even with the SD845 and 6GB RAM. If my V30 was destroyed, then I might consider the V35. Not worth the investment if not necessary. The V40's wide lens is also 107°. LG has been reducing the wide angle lens since the V20/G5, which had 135°. The Galaxy S10's wide angle is 123°.
The camera is a bummer, yes. But with the sale of my V30+ an investment of ~$100 makes my decision a no brainier. I can't believe how dramatically these devices drop in value in less than a year. I paid $325 in May 2018 for my v30+ in 9/10 shape. $290 last week for the v35 and it's flawless.
Edit: for the OP. The extra cash for the v35 is also a smart move. The v35 shipped with Oreo 8 making it a better candidate for treble roms out of the gate. The newer SOC with the bonus ram gives you at least another year of use where the v30 will fall away.
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Interesting thread...
My 2 cents:
1) the 64 vs 128 doesn't mean much to me (very low on the list of priorities) - especially with an sd card slot.
2) T-Mo band 71. That's pretty big. I think T-Mo is going to really improve it's status with that band, *But*, it's going
to be some time before it's completely rolled out... and it's at least somewhat questionable how much of an effect
it would have **for you**. Lots of factors involved; are you in buildings a lot that the 600 MHz will benefit you? Are
you *outside* of the range of normal (already existing) bands? etc
I'd have to put this feature in a 'nice to have' category, but no way is it a necessity - nor a deal breaker.
3) Is the model easily Frankenstein-ed? While *in the future* a device might be unlocked... it might not also.
If a phone has the ability to be unlocked now, and it's a good / great device... I say ya gotta go with those
criteria. If I like the device / size / cameras / design / etc - then this aspect is at the top of my list.
I have a 931 converted to US998, very happy with it. The cameras are awesome. The quad dac blows yer hair
back. I'm on T-Mo with an old pay-as-you go plan and also just signed on with Mint Mobile (uses T-mo towers). There's
no issues to speak of re calls / text / data. Everything works fine.
I'm actually so happy with the V30 and the ability to mod it ... I bought another one.
A brand new one, should arrive soon.
Good luck with your decision. Maybe this info helps a little when making up your mind, maybe not!
Cheers
ChazzMatt said:
Having said that, most phones being used on U.S. T-Mobile network still do not have LTE band 71 (pre-2018 phones), and there are many US998 V30/V30+/V30S users in this forum who are on U.S. T-Mobile or U.S. T-Mobile MVNOs.
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AsItLies said:
Interesting thread...
My 2 cents:
1) the 64 vs 128 doesn't mean much to me (very low on the list of priorities) - especially with an sd card slot.
2) T-Mo band 71. That's pretty big. I think T-Mo is going to really improve it's status with that band, *But*, it's going
to be some time before it's completely rolled out... and it's at least somewhat questionable how much of an effect
it would have **for you**. Lots of factors involved; are you in buildings a lot that the 600 MHz will benefit you? Are
you *outside* of the range of normal (already existing) bands? etc
I'd have to put this feature in a 'nice to have' category, but no way is it a necessity - nor a deal breaker.
3) Is the model easily Frankenstein-ed? While *in the future* a device might be unlocked... it might not also.
If a phone has the ability to be unlocked now, and it's a good / great device... I say ya gotta go with those
criteria. If I like the device / size / cameras / design / etc - then this aspect is at the top of my list.
I have a 931 converted to US998, very happy with it. The cameras are awesome. The quad dac blows yer hair
back. I'm on T-Mo with an old pay-as-you go plan and also just signed on with Mint Mobile (uses T-mo towers). There's
no issues to speak of re calls / text / data. Everything works fine.
I'm actually so happy with the V30 and the ability to mod it ... I bought another one.
A brand new one, should arrive soon.
Good luck with your decision. Maybe this info helps a little when making up your mind, maybe not!
Cheers
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Yes, it is a great phone.
Thanks, you confirmed what I said about T-mobile on US998.
The new DTS is fantastic.
AsItLies said:
Interesting thread...
My 2 cents:
3) Is the model easily Frankenstein-ed? While *in the future* a device might be unlocked... it might not also.
If a phone has the ability to be unlocked now, and it's a good / great device... I say ya gotta go with those
criteria. If I like the device / size / cameras / design / etc - then this aspect is at the top of my list.
Cheers
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So it can currently be cross flashed with ease. Most are opting for the Google Fi crossflash as it removes all of the att bloat and allows things like wifi calling to be used. Or even use as a fully functioning Google Fi phone (switching networks between Sprint, TMobile and us cellular.)
Regarding the bootloader unlock for root and roms, I am 99% certain we will see that in the next month.
bacon612 said:
So it can currently be cross flashed with ease. Most are opting for the Google Fi crossflash as it removes all of the att bloat and allows things like wifi calling to be used. Or even use as a fully functioning Google Fi phone (switching networks between Sprint, TMobile and us cellular.)
Regarding the bootloader unlock for root and roms, I am 99% certain we will see that in the next month.
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Does crossflashing these other V35 firmware carrier unlock the V35 from AT&T, like crossflashing H931 with US998?
I"m mostly asking because months ago I recommended crossflashing AT&T V35 firmware with other V35 and I was told it couldn't be done. And that I was stupid for suggesting it.
The phone has to be carrier unlocked as far as things go now. In the future, it may be different. It was explained to me that the partition where the Sim lock exists, does not get touched when you flash the kdz in lgup. Some are having issues getting their att phones unlocked but there are lots of already unlocked phones on eBay. YMMV
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bacon612 said:
So it can currently be cross flashed with ease. Most are opting for the Google Fi crossflash as it removes all of the att bloat and allows things like wifi calling to be used. Or even use as a fully functioning Google Fi phone (switching networks between Sprint, TMobile and us cellular.)
Regarding the bootloader unlock for root and roms, I am 99% certain we will see that in the next month.
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Congratulations! Personally, I don't use Google Fi, but more power to those that do.
We all have our individual needs / wants. Mine are satisfied with the V30. Hope yours are too - with whatever device you have.
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Congratulations! Personally, I don't use Google Fi, but more power to those that do.
We all have our individual needs / wants. Mine are satisfied with the V30. Hope yours are too - with whatever device you have.
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Mine are satisfied with LG V30/V30+ for now. I have 10 friends/family members who own one, thanks to me touting them. Of them, only mine is rooted as with my job I don't have time even to flash updates (TWRP-flashable zips) for friends anymore. But every V30/V30+/V30S in the world CAN be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
ChazzMatt said:
Mine are satisfied with LG V30/V30+ for now. I have 10 friends/family members who own one, thanks to me touting them. Of them, only mine is rooted as with my job I don't have time even to flash updates (TWRP-flashable zips) for friends anymore. But every V30/V30+/V30S in the world CAN be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
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Exactly Matt. And that's a pretty unusual situation in my experience; a phone with a great design, processor, VERY good cameras (wide in front AND back is NOT common), quad dac (all models), p-oled hi-res screen, etc.
AND at a very affordable price, now anyway.
There really isn't anything comparable right now, AND there MAY NOT be for some time to come. Sure, there are other phones, pixel, oneplus, etc. But they are not in the same price range, not sure which if any have quad dac, none have wide angle lens (back also), etc. And many others of course, but unable to unlock bootloader.
I feel lucky. It was fortunate to be reading Android A on the day they had an article indicating the V30, great phone, was now available at great prices on ebay. After reading your WTF thread... boom! I was an owner within a few hours. It is not a common situation imho. Get em while they last
Something else for the OP. The v30 front facing camera left something to be desired. The two phones I had before (htc 10 and 9) had significantly better front facing cameras. I think to maintain the thin bezels on the 30 the sensor was compromised. They used a much better sensor on the v35. For me, getting a decent image in varied lighting conditions when video chatting was problematic and almost embarrassing at times. I've read this in reviews a few times as well. If a good front facing camera is an issue for you, it may be something to consider