Confused about USB Car chargers - Google Pixel Accessories

I'm looking for a car charger for my Pixel and the missus One Plus 3T. I've also got some Micro USB devices that I still also.
I think that whilst I still have non USB type C devices, that I should go with a USB-A connector such as on
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-P...=1489485072&sr=8-3&keywords=aukey+car+charger
And using a USB-A > Type C cable.
However I see that there are various other ports available (Quick Charge 2.0, 3.0, Turbo Rapid QC etc.)
e.g.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Char...=1489485072&sr=8-7&keywords=aukey+car+charger
Will any of these charging techniques make any difference when charging the Pixel? What about the One Plus 3T?
Any guidance would be much appreciated.

Hi, I guess this one will be better: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUKEY-USB-C...one-Built-in-3-3ft-Type-C-Cable-/262752233557
Gives you 5,4A and 27W.

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Chargers?

Ok hopefully someone can explain this to me. I'm looking to get an additional charger for my G5 so I need a wall wart and a cable. There are multiple wall plugs that state Quick Charge 3.0 but some output to USB A and some to USB C. Does this make a difference? Will charging speeds be different going from A to C vs C to C? There are so many type C options and I can't even begin to narrow it down if I'm still unsure of going from A to C or C to C.
Doomstang said:
Ok hopefully someone can explain this to me. I'm looking to get an additional charger for my G5 so I need a wall wart and a cable. There are multiple wall plugs that state Quick Charge 3.0 but some output to USB A and some to USB C. Does this make a difference? Will charging speeds be different going from A to C vs C to C? There are so many type C options and I can't even begin to narrow it down if I'm still unsure of going from A to C or C to C.
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This is exactly what you're looking for. Bought it for my G5 and couldn't be happier. Enjoy ?
Quick Charge 3.0, USB Type-C & PowerIQ, Anker 24W USB Wall Charger PowerPort+ 1 USB-C with Quick Charge 3.0 for Nexus 5X/6P, LG G5 and other USB-C phones (3ft USB-C to USB-C cable included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CJ90J6O/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_D.qcxbJTAQ8HM
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AUKEY USB-C to USB-C 3.1 Cable

So the charging cable that comes with the Pixel is not very long. 1.8m (5.90'), which is fine if you are just charging from the bedside table as you sleep, but if you need to pick up the phone and move a few paces away, it's coming unplugged along the way.
I picked up the AUKEY USB-C to USB-C 3.1 Cable on Amazon for $9.99 with Prime and it is a lot longer than it seems at 6.6' which gives me enough room to sit at the desk and roll around a bit while using the phone as it charges. The cable is a lot thicker than the stock one, and also a bit more stiff. I am assuming the stiffness will sort of work itself over time, but we shall see. It does give Quick Charge on the Google Pixel.
Specs from Amazon are as follows:
USB 3.1 USB-C to C cable enables ultra-fast data transfer from compatible devices
Compact reversible USB-C connector – Plugs in both ways
Data transfer of up to 10Gbps, twice as fast as USB 3.0
Compatible with USB-C smartphones, tablets, laptops, and power sources
Package Contents: AUKEY 6.6ft USB 3.1 C to C Cable, 24 Month Warranty

keep your U11 charged..

I bought a few items from Amazon for a good price and have had great luck with these products and just wanted to share with everyone.
I went from other HTC devices that utilize qc2.0 and needed to step up my game and this is what I bought to do so.
Acoolz QC 3.0 10000mAh Portable Power Bank - White
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M9FNTP6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sgvqzbBC4TK3Z
USB Type C Cable, Wilist 2 Pack Nylon Braided USB C Cable Short and Long USB A to C Cable Data Sync Fast Charging Cord Support Quick Charge 3.0 and 2.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ILWWG1Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_EWqikRMcM7Nes
Selectec 4 Ports USB Rapid Car Charger Adapter with Dual USB ports and Type C port and QC 3.0
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3REMDH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_ZJhpY7izRHguZ
Be aware of chargers who claims quickcharge 2.0 or 3.0.
Lots of products are crap. Learnt the hard way.
I only buy Quickcharge certified products. As listed here, to be found on their website.
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/59416ea7d6c4b/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
The One thing can say about the items I listed above is that they do indeed trigger the "rapidly changing" when checked on the lockscreen. Also utilizing the "ampre" app they do indeed have a comparable rate of charge. I haven't done any timed test as compared to the oem charger and cord though.

Quick Charge \ AFC to VOOC \ Dash \ Rapid adapter

I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
chowfun said:
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
chowfun said:
I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
tengtengvn said:
Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
tengtengvn said:
Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
tengtengvn said:
Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
Facepalm
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
chowfun said:
Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.

Car charger recommendation - fast charging?

Does anyone know what specification USB C car charger I should buy to charge rapidly? I tried my old OnePlus car charger but that uses a different technology and charges relatively slowly.
I have and use both of these. Work great and no issues so far. Many will recommend Anker too. good luck
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Cha...sprefix=choetech+usb-c+car+,mobile,327&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Cha...sprefix=choetech+usb-c+car+,mobile,327&sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071WYF9HP/
Worked great on my P2XL and works just as well on the P3aXL.
mesaka said:
Does anyone know what specification USB C car charger I should buy to charge rapidly? I tried my old OnePlus car charger but that uses a different technology and charges relatively slowly.
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I believe it's USB c pd 2.0 (power delivery).
I bought this at Wal-Mart on clearance for $13. It includes the charger and an extra USB c to c cable. It states now "rapidly charging" when connected and it is quite fast. Can't tell about durability since I bought it yesterday. Reviews say it's cheap, but so far so good. If you look for it, make sure it has the USB c to c cable and states 5.2 amps on the box. There is another with a USB a to c and 4.8 amps that is not pd 2.0.
Thanks all,
In the end I bought https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07PN4SKGQ...+charger&qid=1557994468&s=gateway&sr=8-2&th=1 - I liked the form factor and it seems (after 1 day of use) pretty robust.

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