hi,
I've got a couple of micro usb car chargers I bought to charge my old samsungs.... but they dont charge my X10.
I've shorted pins 2 and 3 on one of them( d+ and d-) as per this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696760&page=2
but it's still not charging my x10, if anything the battery is being drained quicker when plugged in to the car charger
the label states the output on the charger i have shorted is 4.2- 10v @ 600mA, 750mA max
is there something I am missing?
edit: I've read some of the charging threads and discovered the li-poly battery protection circuit is stopping my cheap chargers from working, so it looks like I need to buy genuine sony (Sony an300), I wonder if this is deliberate on sony's part? I thought the whole point of standardising phone chargers to micro usb - is so that they don't go to waste every time you buy a new phone?
I found that using the original micro USB cable (Or a good quality one) and one of these -> Car USB Outlet works better than buying an adapter with the cable already attached.
Such was the case with my X1 and X2 as well.
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-USB-Car...bleAudio_MP3PlayerCarKits&hash=item3eff8f9886
Hi
I have one of these from Blue unplugged. go to blueunplugged dot com. in the quickcode type 139166. It is a 'Santok STK Car Charger With 1A USB Port'
I worked on my old X1 and with a micro usb cable it works on my X10 too.
I previously had a different device. It got very hot when I was on the phone and using satnav. This one is great. Its not missed a beat.
I think this is the cable, Quickcode 138344. Please check before purchasing though!
sorry can't post URLs.
regards
Sinet2020
I use my Motorola car charger and it works fine when my phone has some juice left in the battery. the first time I tried to use it the battery was completely flat and the charger would not work well, though
mtechfan said:
I found that using the original micro USB cable (Or a good quality one) and one of these -> USB Outlet works better than buying an adapter with the cable already attached.
Such was the case with my X1 and X2 as well.
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version ->
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I bought that one, and it doesn't work with my X10. I have tried other USB devices, and the charger works.
After contacting the vendor (e-cell) they are going to send me another unit, free of charges. But I am not sure if it will work, either.
mtechfan said:
These newer gen ones are around 700mA instead of 500mA.
Here's another version -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-USB-Car...bleAudio_MP3PlayerCarKits&hash=item3eff8f9886
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I bought one the other week to try, it doesn't work with the standard SE cable.
The light on the actual plug comes on but nothing indicates it being plugged in on the phone itself.
I've found no 3rd party in-car chargers work with the X10 and after reading all the problems people had here, I just went and bought an official Sony Ericsson one of eBay for £15. Works perfectly
I think you have to have one that has an output of exactly 700 mAp.
I've tested with higher and lower amperage and nothing worked.
I grabbed an SE AN300 off Play.com and it works with no issue. Looks like I made a trouble-free choice.
I'm looking for a good QC 2.0 cable that is either equal or better than the stock cable. I'd like it to be at least 6 ft. Any suggestions?
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I'm looking for a good QC 2.0 cable that is either equal or better than the stock cable. I'd like it to be at least 6 ft. Any suggestions?
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Portapow make one:
www dot portablepowersupplies dot co dot uk/portapow-20awg-fast-charge-sync-micro-usb-cable/
Not available on there yet, but they are on Amazon US: Search for PortaPow Specialised 3.3ft 20AWG Charge Only Micro USB Cable for Blackberry, or item code B00RL68RNS
(Sorry about the url formatting - I'm too new to be able to post them)
If the Cable does Charge ONLY, then it wont work for QC charging......QC charging requires the cable to have both power and data.....
I've been using mono price premium cables. Turbo charger charges noticeably faster then a standard charger. Never compared vs the stock cable
I have been using these by media bridge. Have had them for a while, before I had my nexus. Works great and nice quality, seems to charge as fast if not faster.
Mediabridge USB 2.0 - Micro-USB to USB Cable (6 Feet) - High-Speed A Male to Micro B with Gold-Plated Connectors - 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KLI62BM/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_gQGdvb0BNNAYF
I'm using an extra cable from a GS4 wall charger. They are long. Don't know why nexus devices ship with such short cables.
Edit: official Samsung GS4 wall chargers are on amazon for like 9 dollars.
Search is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/accessories/usb-cable-quick-charge-2-0-t3013942
Anker hands down is the best and it has a warranty and customer service to back it. Not all cables are created equal.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker%C2%AE-Extra-Premium-Android-Samsung/dp/B00MLP3JMS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1427076204&sr=8-3&keywords=anker+micro+usb
I picked up one of the anker ones and i am impressed with its build quality! I cant really tell if it charges at the same rate as the stock cable, but it doesnt feel terribly slow or extremely fast. Im very happy with it though!
I second Anker. I have two 5ft and work just fine with quick charger.
interesting...I always thought that the QC ability came from the wall connector..not the actual cable. I used regular plain jane cables with my QC wall adapter, and they worked just as well as the one that came with the phone...hrmm
Tower1972 said:
interesting...I always thought that the QC ability came from the wall connector..not the actual cable. I used regular plain jane cables with my QC wall adapter, and they worked just as well as the one that came with the phone...hrmm
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It's built into the phone and the charger. The cable has little to do with it. Other than that all of the pins must be connected, no charge-only cables. The device and charger have to agree on the voltage, and they talk over the data pins to do that. That way, the QC chargers don't destroy devices that can't handle the extra voltage. The thicker power wires have a lower voltage drop, which is nice, and very important for non-QC devices. For QC it's less important, but if they are available, get them. I happened to already have the ones I'm using, so I tried them. They work great.
I'm using a 5' cable from amazon (bought a while ago) and a 5' extension cable from an old USB WiFi adapter I think. Quick charge still shows up and charges real fast.
Are there any aftermarket chargers that will work like the oem Motorola Turbopower chargers?
Pretty much any USB-C charger will work. I've used an old USB power brick with a USB-B -> USB-C cable, I've used my Acer R13's USB-C 45W power brick, and I've used my Choetech 55W 6-port charging station with a USB-C -> USB-C cable. They all work.
If you're looking for something that works with the X4's Turbopower, that's basically just Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 under a different name. My charging station is QC 3.0, which works with QC 2.0 devices, which works with this Moto X4. It charges quite fast.
If all you're looking for is a product recommendation, I'd check out this: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Type-C-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01CJ90J6O
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Pretty much any USB-C charger will work. I've used an old USB power brick with a USB-B -> USB-C cable, I've used my Acer R13's USB-C 45W power brick, and I've used my Choetech 55W 6-port charging station with a USB-C -> USB-C cable. They all work.
If you're looking for something that works with the X4's Turbopower, that's basically just Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 under a different name. My charging station is QC 3.0, which works with QC 2.0 devices, which works with this Moto X4. It charges quite fast.
If all you're looking for is a product recommendation, I'd check out this: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Type-C-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01CJ90J6O
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Think our X4 needs QC3.0 for turbo charging. I have several QC2.0 chargers left over from my last phone and they do not charge this device at full speed. Also I'm pretty sure the original Motorola charger that came with it is QC3.0 according to what I've seen. But I've just ordered my first after-market charger (a RAVPower car charger, model VC007003) and can report back when it arrives later this week.
Looks like QC3.0 is the ticket
Here are screenshots of the charging rates using both my old QC2.0 and new QC3.0 chargers. The new one activates the "TurboPower connected" toast message, which the old one did not, and charges at a much faster rate. Gonna check out some QC3.0 wall chargers in the near future now.
Yes.
Anything from Qualcomm's certified list.
The original charger is 5V, 3A (15 Watt). However, most Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers from 1 or 2 years ago ran at 12V, not 5V for fast charging so they don't support the combination of 5V 3A. It's the same thing that happened with the Nexus 5X which technically didn't have Qualcomm QC either, despite having a Qualcomm CPU. Forget the branding on the charger since it is too unreliable, and just find yourself something that can support 5V, 3A.
Wireless charging station for Moto x4?
Anyone know of a wireless charging station that works on the Moto X4? Got my x4 from Project Fi back in October and now it won't charge with a standard usb c cable. The phone and usb plug gets hot.
I'm using Pleson Fast Charge stand and CHGeek Wireless Charging Patch. The charging patch is kind of unsightly but I don't care, it charges "Turbo" fast.
Uhmmm
SynbiosVyse said:
The original charger is 5V, 3A (15 Watt). However, most Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers from 1 or 2 years ago ran at 12V, not 5V for fast charging so they don't support the combination of 5V 3A. It's the same thing that happened with the Nexus 5X which technically didn't have Qualcomm QC either, despite having a Qualcomm CPU. Forget the branding on the charger since it is too unreliable, and just find yourself something that can support 5V, 3A.
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That may explain why my Nexus 5x charger can't charge this Moto x 4 (it takes forever to complete a charge) but technically it still works
I've gotten turbo speeds from several different Quickcharge3 chargers from Anker. As a side benefit, they also do a good job charging my wife's iPhone.
For me this cable and this wall adapter do the trick just fine.
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
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I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.