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will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
ARTAQaf said:
will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
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You will be charged at much slower rate (limited to 500ma max), or not at all if your phone battery is almost dead. iPhone chargers are designed for iPhone only. You will need a Samsung auto charger (some other non-iPhone smartphone chargers may work too, just not iPhone chargers).
I just bought a cheap 5$ car charger USB adapter for the note will it work?
corey_r said:
I just bought a cheap 5$ car charger USB adapter for the note will it work?
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It will definitely work. The question with those cheap ones is, how long will it last. I usually try to find an OEM branded one like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250973439590#ht_2859wt_1000
Typically, chargers with USB port on it will only do slow charge. In order to support fast charge, you will need short out the data pins to allow phone to draw more than 500ma. Typically auto-chargers that comes with microUSB plug directly, such as the Samsung auto charger, will do so, asume your charger is rated to output more than 500ma.
ARTAQaf said:
will the included USB cable that comes with the Note be able to charge the phone in my car if i plug it into lets say my iPhone auto adapter which has a usb port on it?
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It will be able to charge it. Keep in mind IF your iPhone USB charger max current output (5V 1000mA) is LESS than the Note's charger output, it will take longer to fully charge - but it will charge and will NOT damage the phone.
If you're looking to buy a new usb charger, look for one with the highest mA output rating since whatever device you plug into it will only draw what it needs. ie, my iPad charger is rated @ 2A/2000mA so it covers every device I own (all rated for different current inputs from 500mA up to 2000mA) and that's the only usb charger I take when I travel since I just have to switch out cables to charge other devices. On the other hand, if I only had a lower current rating usb charger, my iPad (requires 2000mA) would be out of luck.
Current output info can be found on the respective charger of your favorite device.
Hope that helps.
it does help, thanx Rand! i cancelled my Amazon order...wish i saw this post sooner.
I have this works great with anything up to 2.1amps...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+...&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=1232905
I just bought this
Man I wish I saw this an hour ago I just bought this you think it's ok?http://www.ebay.com/itm/280818054928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649:confused:
JGuinan007 said:
Man I wish I saw this an hour ago I just bought this you think it's ok?http://www.ebay.com/itm/280818054928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649:confused:
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Looks like that charger is rated @ 700mA. It'll charge the note about 30% slower than the wall charger.
This is my car charger
http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...ord-for-fixed-installation--513303-18842.aspx
poop i couldn't cancel my amazon order. well i 'm sure i'll still use it.
I noticed a lot of people want a fast charger for the Note. This charger is for the Touchpad. I have this and it works really well. It charges faster than the OEM charger that came with the Note.
Not to mention, it is on sale right now for less than $5. Go grab one. From past experience, I used this at 15% battery life and charged for an hour and I was back over to 80%.:victory:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho.../FB341AA?HP-TouchPad-Power-Charger&aoid=35252
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
technut said:
Is the usb cable that comes with it the same as the note takes?they don't show a pic of the other end and is it a charge only cable?If yes and yes I'm a gonna get one.Thanks
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Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
Thank you, getting one!
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
deliriousbb said:
It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger. If you don't have the charger and have nothing to compare with, then I don't think you can say it does not work.
Go check FCC about the charge. Also, the cables provided DOES carry a 2amp charge. Our note can handle fast charging but throttles down to a slower charging rate after 80%.
having a micro usb slot or not have a micro usb slot has nothing to do with the current it can handle.
Ipads and Iphones have the same connector but yet one has a 1amp charger and the other a 2amp charger.
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Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
i_max2k2 said:
Well its $5, which is not worth this discussion, I'll gladly give this money even for the stock samsung charger.
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Agreed! A good charger for cheap.
dx.varun said:
Firstly, I have tried to use with a 2amp charger that came with my SGT P1000.. NO DIFFERENCE...
SECONDLY, PULL OUT BATTERY AND READ!
Google for micro usb cable max output... You will get your answers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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You don't have to get your panties in a twist. Rather than just read forums and assume the worst of everything try it for yourself. I've tried both and it is faster. Just trying to help my fellow Note users to get the best out of their phones.
btw, what are you screaming about pull out the battery and read? you tell me what you want us to know. RATED: 3.7V; 1500mA... WOW ok that proves your point...sigh:silly:
dx.varun said:
This have been discussed hundreds time before....
That 1amp is the output of the charger which forwards the current to kernel of the device... NOTE can only intake 1 amp current... ( remove your battery and read the dam sticker :thumbup
Even though you will supply 2 3 4 5 amp... The maximum in would be 1 amp ONLY...
SECONDLY, micro usb cables have a restriction of carrying current... They cannot pass more than 1 amp current successfully... Therefore galaxy tab series does not come with micro usb slots....
Lastly my recommendation would be NOT to waste money on any other chargers...
Noted by the BEAST!!
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As an HP TouchPad owner, I can confirm that the cable provided with the charger are 'special'. My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note. (I also own the HP touchstone dock, which the TP spends most of it's life sitting on.)
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It has been discussed, but it DOES charge faster than a conventional 1amp charger.
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I have four different wall chargers, including two of this HP barrel adapter (one that came with the TouchPad, one that came with the Touchstone). With the supplied cable, it does charge the TouchPad very quickly. From webOS, the net charge rate is about 1.6 A with the screen on, so probably close to 2 A coming out the USB port.
However, when you plug a Note into this charger, the Note will still only draw 1 A. I have other AC chargers that are also able to supply 1 A to the Note, so in that respect this HP charger isn't anything special. However, it is only $5, which is a good deal.
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pTeronaut said:
My TP will not charge with any other MicroUSB cable connected to the official charger, the same cables which won't charge the TP will charge the Note.
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I've found that the microUSB cable that comes with the Note, when paired with the HP TouchPad's AC charger, will supply 2 A. At least, that's what the OS reports: /sys/devices/platform/usb_gadget/current-mA shows "2000". Plugging the TouchPad into the Note's AC charger shows a value of "900". Plugging it into my laptop's USB port drops that value down to "500", as expected.
I bought two a week ago off Amazon for $10 each. $5 each with free shipping is a steal. I picked up three more. Thanks for posting this deal. I get 1A charging with either the stock charger or TP charger. I like to have a few extra chargers to sprinkle around at home or work (for my Note and the other devices I own that charge off USB.... including a TP).
deliriousbb said:
Yes, it is a micro USB cable. One end is USB and other is micro USB. The cable length is longer than most phone cables. I haven't measured it, but from my plug to my desk, I still have excess cable compared to the original one from the phone.
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When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
Download Current Widget from the play store. Add widget to home screen and you will realize that your phone is not charging any more than 1 amp as designed.
Try the usb out from your pc and you will see about half an amp.
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I have the galaxy tab brick charger the HP touch pad charger and my note charging brick....the touchpad charger works faster...but I feel like it doesn't get fully charged..seems to die faster?. I used the galaxy tab brick...slow to charge warms my phone up nicely...I'd stick with the original note charger.
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lanwarrior said:
When you charge your phone using this HP microUSB cable, do you have issue with NO DEEP SLEEP when unplugging the Note from the charger?
There has been issues reported in XDA where, depending on the USB cables used to charge the Note (connected to computer OR power charger), if you unplug the Note, it will not go DEEP SLEEP, causing significant power drain.
This does NOT happen when the Note is charged using the cable that came with the Note.
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I charge my Note overnight using my Touchpad's MicroUSB cable plugged into the Samsung charger, and I don't experience any difference in power drain.
Where is that post from the guy who put all these petty arguments to rest with scientific tests of all the various options and results??
Good lord people it's a charger for a phone .. no need to get so heated!
(unlike my stock charger.. which gets very heated!)
great price!!!
ordered 3 of them
the price is way cheaper than just a single micro usb cable shipped from other stores
i have 3 already
1 at work, 2 for home.
definitely faster than OEM. I charge overnight, no issues. had for around 5-6 months now. and i can use the phone while charging.
fact is that it DOES charge faster.
i recommend it
WOW***
Great price I bought 2!
Is there a cable longer then the original that will charge like the original?
The cable is too short, and i cant find a longer one anywhere. I need one that would charge the phone fast like the original.
I use a 3 foot usb cable extension with mine
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motixlost said:
Is there a cable longer then the original that will charge like the original?
The cable is too short, and i cant find a longer one anywhere. I need one that would charge the phone fast like the original.
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There is nothing special about the original cable, it is just a data cable/charge cable. It is the charger that is special. The stock charger is internally shorted to charge [email protected]?2 amps not [email protected] Get a good quality 6 foot data/charge cable from monoprice. The monoprice cables have small ends that fit on almost all cases with smaller USB holes. EBay cables are hit or miss.
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tdamocles said:
There is nothing special about the original cable, it is just a data cable/charge cable. It is the charger that is special. The stock charger is internally shorted to charge [email protected]?2 amps not [email protected] Get a good quality 6 foot data/charge cable from monoprice. The monoprice cables have small ends that fit on almost all cases with smaller USB holes. EBay cables are hit or miss.
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Grab your stock charger, install Galaxy Charging Current on your phone and test different cables. You'll see that the stock cable charges much faster. This goes for car chargers too. I have a Samsumg OEM 2 A car charger that I tested with different cables. The difference between the stock cable and even good quality cables is notorious. What really isn't that special is the charger. Even a USB charging port from a laptop can provide more than 500 mA. By the way, you are confusing DC and AC currents.if you are referring to the 500 mA of the USB standard, they are DC too.
That being said, I too wish there was a 3 meter cable that could charge as fast as the Samsung original.
Alexei Volkoff said:
Grab your stock charger, install Galaxy Charging Current on your phone and test different cables. You'll see that the stock cable charges much faster. This goes for car chargers too. I have a Samsumg OEM 2 A car charger that I tested with different cables. The difference between the stock cable and even good quality cables is notorious. What really isn't that special is the charger. Even a USB charging port from a laptop can provide more than 500 mA. By the way, you are confusing DC and AC currents.if you are referring to the 500 mA of the USB standard, they are DC too.
That being said, I too wish there was a 3 meter cable that could charge as fast as the Samsung original.
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I bought my phone brand new from a local Verizon Corporate store and obviously my phone came with the Galaxy Note 3's standard white Samsung 2.1amp charger and white USB 3.0 charging cable. I needed extras and wanted to order something as close to stock performance and charging speeds that I could get without paying out the a$$ for a couple of real OEM wall chargers and cables from Verizon, so I did a little research and found a couple of good combos off Amazon that matched the same charging rates that the OEM charger/cable combo gives me.
I ordered an Amazon Basics 2.1amp output wall charger, this Amazon Basics 9ft long USB 3.0 cable, this small/low profile PNY 12volt/2.1amp "Rapid Charge" Car Charger, and this 8ft long Mediabridge USB 3.0 "SuperSpeed" Cable.
I tested combos of each cable(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Cable, Amazon Basics Cable, and the Mediabridge Cable) with EACH charger(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Wall Charger, Amazon Basics 2.1amp Wall Charger, and the PNY 2.1amp Car Charger) using the "Galaxy Charging Current" app and got the same results all across the board with each combo, even the Samsung Charger/Samsung Cable combo. So unless that app spits out skewed numbers on a consistent basis, I believe it's safe to say that as long as you get a decent quality charger that can truly pump out 2.1amps like the OEM Samsung Charger and a decent cable to pair up with whatever charger you purchase, there's no need to spend the big bucks and go OEM....unless you're just one of those kinds of people that HAS to have OEM everything just for the extra peace of mind and to make sure all of their accessories are of the same matching Samsung brand. I see no reason to spend that kind of money when a MUCH cheaper alternative will get the job done just the same, PLUS the "craftsmanship" and quality of the aftermarket chargers/cables I mentioned appears to be outstanding, if not maybe even a little better than the OEM Samsung combo...besides the fact that the fancy OEM cable has the glossy, white, square-shaped plugs at the each end of the cable with the "SAMSUNG" name emblazoned on them and those aftermarket cables gave me a hard time squeezing past the charger cutout on my Spigen Slim Armor Case(some shaving of the plug is necessary in order for them to fit through my Slim Armor charging cutout).
If you're not concerned with all that fanciness, save yourself quite a few bucks and opt for the cheaper alternatives...just do yourself a favor and do your research first...you WON'T be disappointed. :good::good::good:
You got lucky. I've tested about half dozen cables by now and none of them managed to deliver the same current as the stock cable. Out of curiosity, what current did you get? 1800 mA?
Yeah, it's mostly testing with the Galaxy Charging app on whether or not you get the max current or not. I got lucky that my wife's Lumia's data cable is at par with the stock cable and use that for Ingress sessions. I also use the HP Touchpad wall charger as a secondary charger, it gives out 2.1 amps, one of the best chargers around.
harveydent said:
Yeah, it's mostly testing with the Galaxy Charging app on whether or not you get the max current or not. I got lucky that my wife's Lumia's data cable is at par with the stock cable and use that for Ingress sessions. I also use the HP Touchpad wall charger as a secondary charger, it gives out 2.1 amps, one of the best chargers around.
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I have also tested with various combinations of the OEM sammy cable and charger, AmazonBasics 3' and 9' USB3 cables, a nexus 7 wall charger and an Anker 2.4W car charger. All did very well and charged around 1800mA. My laptop charges it at a little under 500mA.
I also had to shave the AmazonBasics end to fit with my Slim Armor case. I don't get why they made it so large in the first place, its HUGE. Also, the AmazonBasics cord is very thick and stiff, more like cable TV cable.
jsdecker10 said:
I bought my phone brand new from a local Verizon Corporate store and obviously my phone came with the Galaxy Note 3's standard white Samsung 2.1amp charger and white USB 3.0 charging cable. I needed extras and wanted to order something as close to stock performance and charging speeds that I could get without paying out the a$$ for a couple of real OEM wall chargers and cables from Verizon, so I did a little research and found a couple of good coimbos off Amazon that matched the same charging rates that the OEM charger/cable combo gives me.
I ordered an Amazon Basics 2.1amp output wall charger, this Amazon Basics 9ft long USB 3.0 cable, this small/low profile PNY 12volt/2.1amp "Rapid Charge" Car Charger, and this 8ft long Mediabridge USB 3.0 "SuperSpeed" Cable.
I tested combos of each cable(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Cable, Amazon Basics Cable, and the Mediabridge Cable) with EACH charger(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Wall Charger, Amazon Basics 2.1amp Wall Charger, and the PNY 2.1amp Car Charger) using the "Galaxy Charging Current" app and got the same results all across the board with each combo, even the Samsung Charger/Samsung Cable combo. So unless that app spits out skewed numbers on a consistent basis, I believe it's safe to say that as long as you get a decent quality charger that can truly pump out 2.1amps like the OEM Samsung Charger and a decent cable to pair up with whatever charger you purchase, there's no need to spend the big bucks and go OEM....unless you're just one of those kinds of people that HAS to have OEM everything just for the extra peace of mind and to make sure all of their accessories are of the same matching Samsung brand. I see no reason to spend that kind of money when a MUCH cheaper alternative will get the job done just the same, PLUS the "craftsmanship" and quality of the aftermarket chargers/cables I mentioned appears to be outstanding, if not maybe even a little better than the OEM Samsung combo...besides the fact that the fancy OEM cable has the glossy, white, square-shaped plugs at the each end of the cable with the "SAMSUNG" name emblazoned on them and those aftermarket cables gave me a hard time squeezing past the charger cutout on my Spigen Slim Armor Case(some shaving of the plug is necessary in order for them to fit through my Slim Armor charging cutout).
If you're not concerned with all that fanciness, save yourself quite a few bucks and opt for the cheaper alternatives...just do yourself a favor and do your research first...you WON'T be disappointed. :good::good::good:
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I'm with you. I've been using that cheap sprint 2amp dual use ac/car charger with the monoprice cables and it charges just as fast as the stock samsung combo.
By the way, ~9 feet (3 meters) is a long ways to charge something.
If you ever notice if you buy one of the cheap cigarette lighter chargers it shows USB charging in the battery properties. This limits it to around 500ma. It must be internally wired to charge at the USB standard. Now buy cigarette Lighter 'fast charger' and it will show AC charging in the battery properties. It must be internally wired to charge at a higher amperage.
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In the bottom line, only the samsung original cable can charge with maximum power?
No, just a good quality cable imho. Monoprice 6 footer or similar. Only one thing that bothers me with monoprice cable is the wire tends to pull out of the terminated end if you pull at it too much. What I love about them is the terminated ends are small.
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I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
That cable will work fine. Pretty much any 3rd party cable will work.
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I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
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Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice
Do NOT buy any cable from anywhere else. Unless it's cheaper, but it probably won't be. Their stuff has always been great and the selection is awesome.
http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=micro+usb
If you buy from monoprice and want a cable over 3 ft then you have to buy a "premium" cable and that costs more. I got this one on Amazon, it will give you the full charging speed at 6 ft or more:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RB6881Y/
Keep in mind that to get the full speed with a cable longer than 3 ft you really need to get something like 24/28 AWG otherwise it can't carry the charge. I bought a bunch of 28/28 cables and none of them gave me the full speed. At 3 ft pretty much any cable will work.
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
Sleeepy2 said:
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
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28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
frobie said:
28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
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It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
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It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
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If it works for you then I'm envious, but I've got 3 Motorola chargers, 3 Nexus 6s and 8 6ft 28/28 cables that aren't doing it and for my money that's a pretty good sample. I only have all these because I manage the phone plan at work. When we bought the 24/28 6ft cables we had no issues.
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
chowfun said:
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
tengtengvn said:
Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.