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I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day.
HTC, Samsung etc has a lot more leverage and money.
Since Moto was on the brink of bancrupcy for a long time, I guess they signed some panic-treaty.
The rest of the world isn't getting the 4g razr either.
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
milf33 said:
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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That was what I have been reading on some other forums.
milf33 said:
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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How long after, a year two years?
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I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
Now, if there's one thing we all know about Moto, it's that they're terrible with dates. So if you're looking forward to it, don't expect it until the ICS update, because I doubt they will make an update just for the sake of unlocking bootloaders. They originally DID say that ICS was coming later this year, after all. I don't know if they'll fight for it as hard as Google/HTC did to get Verizon to agree with them, though. The way they have it worded is very... laid-back sounding. Kind of more like a "hey is this okay? no? alright we won't do that" approach
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
thats not a promise just a statement :/
Agreed.
Unlocking bootloader is a simple thing. Knowing Moto's track record and their laxness on this phone, how can we believe that ICS is even going to come this year, if at all?
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If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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Thanks for the advice....that is exactly what I did
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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like I said....nexus and now all HTC devices are being unlocked.....only Motorola's are not
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Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day
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Then care to explain why the Motorola milestone was encrypted, while the Droid wasn't? I can count the number of un-encrypted devices that Motorola has released...worldwide with one hand.
If Verizon is against unlocked bootloaders then why are they allowing the galaxy nexus on their network? Or allowing HTC to unlock their devices?
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
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It's more corporate laziness than actually the carriers decision. Honestly, Motorola must be hiding something in their phones to be so uptight about unlocking the bootloader.
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I really dont get why people complains about Motorola. As I know the decision to get this phone its our, Im agree with you in the idea that Motorola its making a really mistake blocking the bootloader but as I tell you before the decision its yours. Simply dont get the phone.
I had just found this site on Wed instructions to manually update. Would this work with tracfone version?
www.droidmen.com/2015/02/moto-e-manually-update-to-android-5-0-2-lollipop/
if its the xt830c variant, no. I would doubt it would for the other variant either as tracphone does not plan to update their moto e to lollipop and has signature checking enabled
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if its the xt830c variant, no. I would doubt it would for the other variant either as tracphone does not plan to update their moto e to lollipop and has signature checking enabled
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Is straight talk ever going to unlock the bootloader on the xt830c?
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Is straight talk ever going to unlock the bootloader on the xt830c?
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so I have actually been on their a**es for the past few days about that. They have dropped support for the device and Trac/Straight will not even recognize what a bootloader unlock is. So I brought it up with moto and they opened up a report about having the device supported under the unlock program. If it actually happens ? Who knows, I figure it won't so dont get your hopes up. I found out that after multiple times on the phone and chat with tracphone that their support team is a bunch of asshats. Moto has to go around them for this I think but I am not 100% sure. I asked to have my support escalated to a tech that knew what they were doing and was told straight out "no" so, that is what you will get from tracphone. The Moto G from trac is not going to get lollipop either.
edit - nope, like I figured. They ran me around in circles
Hi,
I've always been a Samsung guy but the LG G5 has sparked my interest since it has a removable battery and SD slot. I see that some versions of the G4 have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering if there was any information on the G5 having an unlocked bootloader for the US version? I've tried looking around but couldn't find anything about it. If they haven't announced anything yet are they likely to have it unlocked? Having root is crucial for me but being able to use different ROMs is even better. Thanks!
It's not going to be unlocked out of the box, so no one will know until they come out and people start to get them. Looking at the past, going from the G2 > G3 > G4, the ability to unlock and root has gone down hill, especially with carrier versions. I've seen significantly less dev support for each phone, and I'd expect the G5 to be even more locked down.
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Hi,
I've always been a Samsung guy but the LG G5 has sparked my interest since it has a removable battery and SD slot. I see that some versions of the G4 have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering if there was any information on the G5 having an unlocked bootloader for the US version? I've tried looking around but couldn't find anything about it. If they haven't announced anything yet are they likely to have it unlocked? Having root is crucial for me but being able to use different ROMs is even better. Thanks!
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"Out of the box" there are no devices that come with the bootloader unlocked (any more). You need to go through steps to unlock. LG has been no different.
In terms of US BL unlockable, the only carrier quick to offer this has always been T-Mo. G2,3 & 4. That said, we won't know prior to release
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"Out of the box" there are no devices that come with the bootloader unlocked (any more). You need to go through steps to unlock. LG has been no different.
In terms of US BL unlockable, the only carrier quick to offer this has always been T-Mo. G2,3 & 4. That said, we won't know prior to release
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This. Tmo generally DGAF about bootloaders being unlocked, so hopefully that continues here. I'm interested in this device but no Root would suck.
I also hope this device will have an unlocked bootloader. It seems like a pretty sick little phone. I am still on a S4 with AT&T, which was my first phone with a locked bootloader. I know you can load other ROMS on it via SafeStrap, but that just seems like such a gimpy way to go. My previous S2 (international version) was unlocked, and I loaded all sorts of ROMS. I hate the concept of a manufacturer locking down a phone you purchase.
Have the previous LG G phones been unlocked, or at least rooted? I know I could do the research, but I am feeling a bit lazy right now.
Thanks
G2 and G3 where unlockable. G4 was rootable but not unlockable. V10 was sealed up tight.
I want the G5 but if I can't at least root it on Verizon it's a no go for me. I'll give up new phones like the G5 and S7 and stick with my totally unlocked Moto X Pure until another manufacture makes something with a sd card and a unlockable bootloader with CDMA bands.
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That's so frustrating. I'd be furious if any computer I purchased was like that. I want to do what I want to the **** I own. Maybe I will just have to rethink my hesitations about the 6P's size.
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That's so frustrating. I'd be furious if any computer I purchased was like that. I want to do what I want to the **** I own. Maybe I will just have to rethink my hesitations about the 6P's size.
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The 6 p is the best phone I've ever owned. Had most samsung HTC and lg phones. I have a g4 that I gave to my son because the lack of unlock on the Sprint version. If there's a version of the g5 which is unlock able with Sprint radio capability I'll try one out. Looks really cool.
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The 6 p is the best phone I've ever owned. Had most samsung HTC and lg phones. I have a g4 that I gave to my son because the lack of unlock on the Sprint version. If there's a version of the g5 which is unlock able with Sprint radio capability I'll try one out. Looks really cool.
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I really do want the 6p, but it is just such a large phone. That is my only hang up, and it is such a bummer.
I hope there will be a way around it. And being on Verizon doesn't help. I might have to skip it and go for something along the lines of joshw0000.
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G2 and G3 where unlockable. G4 was rootable but not unlockable. V10 was sealed up tight.
I want the G5 but if I can't at least root it on Verizon it's a no go for me. I'll give up new phones like the G5 and S7 and stick with my totally unlocked Moto D Pure until another manufacture makes something with a sd card and a unlockable bootloader with CDMA bands.
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The V10 bootloader is fully unlockable - not sure what you are talking about.
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The V10 bootloader is fully unlockable - not sure what you are talking about.
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Not Verizon. XDA for the Verizon V10 is almost empty.
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Not Verizon. XDA for the Verizon V10 is almost empty.
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People still get phones from telcos? Never do that. Its a loss loss loss, no matter where you look at it from.
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People still get phones from telcos? Never do that. Its a loss loss loss, no matter where you look at it from.
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Do you know anything about Verizon? Or phones in general? I'll give you a hint. Google "CDMA".
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joshw0000 said:
Do you know anything about Verizon? Or phones in general? I'll give you a hint. Google "CDMA".
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LOL...there are a plenty good phones which work with CDMA. I can vouch for MXPE. Try it. Always buy unlocked outright, man!
PS: G4 unlocked works with CDMA. You can buy it from B&H. I can get you a link if you want. BTW, welcome to 2016....
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LOL...there are a plenty good phones which work with CDMA. I can vouch for MXPE. Try it. Always buy unlocked outright, man!
PS: G4 unlocked works with CDMA. You can buy it from B&H. I can get you a link if you want. BTW, welcome to 2016....
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Dude, look at my signature. I'm on a MXPE. That's basically the newest unlockable bootloader phone that can be used on Verizon. I had a VZW M9 that I sent to a developer to be unlocked but got bored with it. The VZW G4 doesn't have an unlockable bootloader and an "unlocked" G4 will not work on Verizon. With exception to the Nexus line, that's it but I have to have an sd card. I've used the N6, N5X, and N6P. They're not for me.
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LOL...there are a plenty good phones which work with CDMA. I can vouch for MXPE. Try it. Always buy unlocked outright, man!
PS: G4 unlocked works with CDMA. You can buy it from B&H. I can get you a link if you want. BTW, welcome to 2016....
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Yes, 2016 is the year of locked down carrier restrictions. Unless you are on T-Mobile or AT&T, it's difficult to do what you're saying. I am considering jumping off Verizon when my contract ends in June so I can get something global.
xocomaox said:
Yes, 2016 is the year of locked down carrier restrictions. Unless you are on T-Mobile or AT&T, it's difficult to do what you're saying. I am considering jumping off Verizon when my contract ends in June so I can get something global.
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My father has verizon and I have talked with multiple verizon reps and it seems like most of then are pushy any not really intereted in the devices themselves. The latest rep I spoke with said that the s7 didn't have a good camera which seems to be completely off since the s7 has an amazing camera (tested it in stores as well as reputable reviews). I agree with you and was going to switch to Verizon but might not anymore, because of their restrictions and other limited information,
Let's quickly set the record straight on the G4: NONE of the carrier variants allowed for bootloader unlocking--only the H815 "international" model had this as an officially supported option (which btw, is not the model sold by t mobile--that was h815t and isn't the same). I agree with others here that NOT buying the carrier versions is always the best option. They're carrier unlocked out of the box and provide the greatest flexibility if you travel between countries. They also typically provide a few more cellular frequencies. However, while they may be compatible with AT&T's network, that doesn't mean they have all of the frequencies that AT&T uses (as was the case for the G4). Also for those who may be confused, carrier unlocked has no relation to bootloader unlocking.
Anyway, I would also like to know if there will be a G5 variant with official bootloader unlock support. I wish they would announce this soon!
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People still get phones from telcos? Never do that. Its a loss loss loss, no matter where you look at it from.
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Question: what about carrier-specific features like T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling? The MXPE didn't support that, but the Nexus 6P and 5X do. Could an unlocked/unbranded LG G5 hypothetically do the same?
I saw this article from Android Police/. It is quite interesting that amazon will be selling these. As soon as a bootloader/rooting expert gets their hands on this phone, we may be able to get the Moto G4 for cheap, we just have to flash a custom ROM. I can't wait to find out. :good:
I got mine on Amazon. It was great to use the discounted price, plus the extra $25 off. i also had $156 in gift card balance. Everything is upgraded compared to my Nexus 5 now. I'm thinking about getting a Moto G4 for my wife too.
The other Amazon phone, the Blu R1 HD, has an unlockable bootloader, so the Amazon G4 should as well. Should be able to use the same TWRP/root guide already available.
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The other Amazon phone, the Blu R1 HD, has an unlockable bootloader, so the Amazon G4 should as well. Should be able to use the same TWRP/root guide already available.
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If only kind person could verify! Only them will I as it to my Amazon wishlist.
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If only kind person could verify! Only them will I as it to my Amazon wishlist.
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We'll find out on the 12th!
Or just use a custom lockscreen
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...om-blu-r1-hd-moto-g4-without-rooting-0172082/
Amazon G4 on the way. Fully intend on boot loader unlock and root immediately.
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Amazon G4 on the way. Fully intend on boot loader unlock and root immediately.
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Assuming Amazon hasn't locked down the bootloader. I wouldn't put it past them to have put in that condition when they offered to subsidize the phone by $75.
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Assuming Amazon hasn't locked down the bootloader. I wouldn't put it past them to have put in that condition when they offered to subsidize the phone by $75.
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True story.
Either way, My S4's screen just went on me and figured I'd go this route instead of $80 for a screen. We'll see Tuesday!
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Amazon G4 on the way. Fully intend on boot loader unlock and root immediately.
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bootloader is unlockable on the amazon prime model i just got mine and unlocked it already
Tomsgt said:
bootloader is unlockable on the amazon prime model i just got mine and unlocked it already
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Awesome, Good to know! :good:
I pulled the trigger on the 32gb version. Getting rid of my s7 edge. Great price on a decent phone. Thanks to root junky for the g+ heads up!
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bootloader is unlockable on the amazon prime model i just got mine and unlocked it already
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Same here, can't get RSD Lite to recognize the phone though. Probably more of a driver issue on my Surface than anything.
Can anyone confirm if they are able to unlock the bootloader lately? I got a Amazon Moto G4 16GB and the Moto website says that bootloader cant be unlocked. I would appreciate any help.
I have the 32 GB Amazon moto G4 and confirm that the bootloader is infact unlockable.
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Can anyone confirm if they are able to unlock the bootloader lately? I got a Amazon Moto G4 16GB and the Moto website says that bootloader cant be unlocked. I would appreciate any help.
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Hmmm... This page is different than a couple days ago, it appears Moto and Amazon may have come to an "arrangement" and stopped the bootloader unlocking on the Amazon devices.
Wow, that is lame. Looks like maybe Motorola might have stopped the bootloader unlock on their site then. Any body able to confirm if it is possible?
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Wow, that is lame. Looks like maybe Motorola might have stopped the bootloader unlock on their site then. Any body able to confirm if it is possible?
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It looks to be the case. I already unlocked my Amazon edition's bootloader, but now when I try to re-submit the unlock request, I get an error saying that my phone doesn't qualify for the bootloader unlock.
Eeek! That sucks
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Wow, that is lame. Looks like maybe Motorola might have stopped the bootloader unlock on their site then. Any body able to confirm if it is possible?
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It's no longer possible, confirmed by several individuals in other threads here on XDA.
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Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it may be helpful for those with this version of the phone to see this ASAP. As of yesterday, 7/19/2016, Motorola stopped giving out unlock keys for the Amazon Prime "with ads" edition of the Moto G4. Though they for a short time advised on their website to contact customer support at Amazon for a unlock key, Amazon does not provide this service and Motorola's support page now reflects this. If you obtained an unlock key prior to yesterday, it will obviously still work, so please keep it safe somewhere.
It is CONFIRMED however that the "Standard Non-Ad" edition sold on Amazon is the retail version which can be bootloader unlocked! So if you can, buy that one instead.
oh snap, and I was about to buy one
Unnecessary i waited all these days. Finally i got time today to unlock bootloader, and its not working What should I do? return it and buy non-ad version?
Maybe.......
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Unnecessary i waited all these days. Finally i got time today to unlock bootloader, and its not working What should I do? return it and buy non-ad version?
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hey, maybe just try this link. you never know.....
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Definatley a huge bummer that it was possible and then they closed it. Maybe someone could reverse engineer the API they use for sending Data and such on the moto site, and then force it to generate a unlock key. Or maybe I'm just a very, very hopeful thinker
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hey, maybe just try this link. you never know.....
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Definatley a huge bummer that it was possible and then they closed it. Maybe someone could reverse engineer the API they use for sending Data and such on the moto site, and then force it to generate a unlock key. Or maybe I'm just a very, very hopeful thinker
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I followed the same steps. No use.
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Unnecessary i waited all these days. Finally i got time today to unlock bootloader, and its not working What should I do? return it and buy non-ad version?
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There is currently (or at least was yesterday) and Instant $50 rebate on the Standard editions on Amazon, making them the same price as the ad versions. I've talked to their Prime phone department (because apparently that exists...) and they seem to insist that the Standard version is a factory Motorola phone, which should in theory be unlockable. So if you can still return yours, you should probably do so if bootloader unlock/rooting is important to you.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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I followed the same steps. No use.
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:crying::crying:
Just noticed the ad version gave me an additional 25 discount. So total was 124.99 plus tax. The non ad version is still being offered at 149.99 plus tax
aznindguy4u said:
hi rootjunky,
good news! i got the xt1625 motorola g4 standard edition without amazon prime ads (states "retus" in the software channel), and I was able to UNLOCK this device as soon as I got it. This is good news for people who want to get their hands on this device and unlock it and still get the $50 instant rebate from amazon.
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This is very good news indeed for those of us wanting to save $50 on Amazon! Quoted from the "remove ads" thread over on the development section.
Hi all, just managed to unlock my Amazon prime G4 32gb...
b3nman said:
Hi all, just managed to unlock my Amazon prime G4 32gb...
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you need to say how you did it
What he said ^^^
b3nman said:
Hi all, just managed to unlock my Amazon prime G4 32gb...
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Care to share the details?
I also unlocked mine yesterday when I received it. Make sure you have the unlock key in the exact format that it describes on the official unlock page.
It doesn't tell you if it is in the wrong format. You can type anything in the text box and it will say not eligible. So make sure you have it right. It took me a few tries.
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I also unlocked mine yesterday when I received it. Make sure you have the unlock key in the exact format that it describes on the official unlock page.
It doesn't tell you if it is in the wrong format. You can type anything in the text box and it will say not eligible. So make sure you have it right. It took me a few tries.
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Tells me the device is not eligble for unlock.
I just went through the standard unlock process
Try using the online scrubber that's what I did worked perfectly
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b3nman said:
I just went through the standard unlock process
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Yours is the standard version or Amazon ad one?
b3nman said:
I just went through the standard unlock process
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Which one did you buy?
make sure there is no spaces in the code you enter to get unlock code
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Which one did you buy?
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http://prntscr.com/c9tkr2