Hi everyone,
My phone's wifi module (also bluetooth) was broken and cannot be used.
It can be turned on, but does not work. and cannot be turned off then.
It reports "error" status.
Unless I restore factory setting or new flash it, no other way to fix this.
Thus, I cannot use mobile data (3g, Edge, HSDPA etc) as internet connection,
because the system would use wifi instead of mobile service if wifi is not off.
Do you know my problem from my discription?
It's some complex...
What I want is any solution from the following two:
1) How to turn off wifi? The module is broken, it reports error when I turn off it from the settings menu.
2) How to enable mobile data thouth wifi is not off?
I guess some operation from the console (command line) is needed to do this.
If I get any one solution above, I can solve my problem.
Thank you very much for reading my post.
Wish you good luck.
bloodeve said:
Hi everyone,
My phone's wifi module (also bluetooth) was broken and cannot be used.
It can be turned on, but does not work. and cannot be turned off then.
It reports "error" status.
Unless I restore factory setting or new flash it, no other way to fix this.
Thus, I cannot use mobile data (3g, Edge, HSDPA etc) as internet connection,
because the system would use wifi instead of mobile service if wifi is not off.
Do you know my problem from my discription?
It's some complex...
What I want is any solution from the following two:
1) How to turn off wifi? The module is broken, it reports error when I turn off it from the settings menu.
2) How to enable mobile data thouth wifi is not off?
I guess some operation from the console (command line) is needed to do this.
If I get any one solution above, I can solve my problem.
Thank you very much for reading my post.
Wish you good luck.
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even if the wifi is still on you should still be able to use mobile data since the wifi cannot connect to any wifi points.
how did you break it? maybe that is messing up the mobile data part aswel stopping it from connecting
whitest0rm said:
even if the wifi is still on you should still be able to use mobile data since the wifi cannot connect to any wifi points.
how did you break it? maybe that is messing up the mobile data part aswel stopping it from connecting
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Thanks for you reply.
I almost forgot the post.
The module that controls wifi and bluetooth does not work because of I knocked down a bottle of water that aside the phone.
Now I only have to never enable wifi at any time.
While on wifi, do I need to turn off Data in order to save battery? I *think* the phone will use the wifi if its available anyway instead of cellular Data but will actually turning off Data while wifi is enabled and connected save battery?
The data is automatically turned off while wi-fi is connected unless you have some rogue app that insists to use cell data connection.
foxbat121 said:
The data is automatically turned off while wi-fi is connected unless you have some rogue app that insists to use cell data connection.
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Note, this is only if "wifi sleep policy" is "never".
Otherwise, it'll go to the cell connection when the screen is off.
The only app I know of right now that can force cell data traffic while wifi is connected is the Market when it does its initial compatibility checks. (Downloads still go over wifi.)
Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely try this.
pdefazio said:
Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
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I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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bebeau25 said:
I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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Calls and SMS you should be fine with because they do not require a data connection.
Szadzik said:
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
jms_uk said:
IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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+1
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The only problem i had with this was with MMS messages. can't send or receive MMS.
MrFrankfromCM said:
Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
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How not?? Your screen is off and 3G/WiFi is killing your battery for no reason (unless you are downloading or background sync on for a reason), so why not have it off when screen is off and save battery. I still stick with JuiceDefender for this.
jms_uk said:
IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
Szadzik said:
1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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Interesting you say that, but I've noticed that as far as the what the phone's reporting via settings/toggle widgets etc.. "mobile data" is still active when WiFi is active (even if its status disappears from the notification bar and no actual mobile data activity is going on).. and, it can be explicitly turned off - leaving you still able to receive calls etc. Perhaps its not turning the
radio "off" per-se, but its definitely seems to be doing something over and above just letting WiFi take precidence for data transactions..
I've definitely noticed an improvement in battery life by doing this, over and above simply turning on and connecting to WiFi and NOT explicity turning mobile data off..
I also noticed that in some older versions/flavours of android (2.1, 2.2) the option to explicitly turn off "Mobile Data" wasn't present, relying instead (I assume) on what you've described above..
Szadzik said:
1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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pdefazio said:
I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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Where did I say WiFi radio and cellular radio are in one chip? I said DATA and CALLS chip is one and the same.
I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
buck i said:
I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I sorta have the same(ish) problem. Data can take a little while to activate after I'm disconnected from WiFi. Every once in a while, I need to turn airplane mode on and off in order for data to turn blue. The fact that MMS messages are disabled with this Smart Action is a little disappointing too, but I don't receive enough while I'm home to be super frustrated by it...
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I think the problem is to do with Smart actions not returning your device back to the exact state it was in before the action was triggered.. Possibly also issues with other smart actions interfering with the state of other parameters..
I wonder why Moto didn't go with an 'exit action' approach used by apps like Tasker?
My mother in law got an ATT Alpha and tried to connect to wifi. It will connect and immediately say wifi turned off. When you disable mobile data it enables wifi. That makes no sense... why would the phone favor mobile data.
How can we correct this? I have owned 5 Samsung devices and never seen this.
JewRican said:
My mother in law got an ATT Alpha and tried to connect to wifi. It will connect and immediately say wifi turned off. When you disable mobile data it enables wifi. That makes no sense... why would the phone favor mobile data.
How can we correct this? I have owned 5 Samsung devices and never seen this.
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Beacuse the phone has a Smart network switch feature. You can turn off in the wifi menu.
doramark said:
Beacuse the phone has a Smart network switch feature. You can turn off in the wifi menu.
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We turned that off and it still didnt work. we then turned it back on and it didnt correct the issue either. Is a restart needed when you do or something?
Kinda odd that in a home with nearly no data signal from the provider (they use femtocell) that it would prefer the mobile data network over the wifi.
apparently a reboot was needed. thx!
Hello guys, is there a way to use WIFI and Data at same time? I have a WIFI Camera, but if connect it with the phone i cant use internet, i want to be connected wifi camera and use data,is that possible? Sorry for my english
zafinio said:
Hello guys, is there a way to use WIFI and Data at same time? I have a WIFI Camera, but if connect it with the phone i cant use internet, i want to be connected wifi camera and use data,is that possible? Sorry for my english
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Its Not Possible,Only One Network Traffic Can Run at a Time..you can't Run WiFi & Data @ the Same Time.. Even If You Turned On Both,WiFi Is the 1st Priority, if Its Turned Off Because of Low Signal ,Data Will be Turned On Automatically, After Wi-Fi Got Strength, WiFi will be Turned On Automatically again by Switching Off Data..