Want to share my experience on fixing my GPS tracking during my run.
BACKGROUND
For a few weeks, I noticed that my Samsung Gear Fit 2 no longer tracks location during a run and walk. But it was doing that when I brough my Fit2 last year. I have Google and not much info on the problem. I have noticed that the Fit2 was working properly when I had a Samsung phone. The problem occurs when I switch to a new (non-Samsung) phone. Location is turned on on the Fit2, GPS was turned on on my new phone, reset Fit2, etc... nothing would bring back the GPS. More specifically, the problem is that after my run, the map would not show up in SHealth.
Until I read a post somewhere that Fit2 will not use its onboard GPS until it is disconnected from the phone. In a nutshell, someone on the Internet suggested that turning off Bluetooth on the phone allows her to track her run. I use GPS Info Watch watch face to verify. Bingo solution. But not yet. What about my alerts during my exercise? If I turn off Bluetooth, I would not be receiving alerts.
SOLUTION
The solution is simple. Enable Your Location (aka GPS) App Permissions on Gear Fit Plugin.
It seemed that Samsung design the logic of the Fit2 to read GPS location first from the phone (if the Fit2 is connected via Bluetooth). If the Fti2 loss connection to the phone, it will activate the onboard GPS. In my case, because My Location was blocked in App Permissions for Gear Fit Plugin, GPS location was not passed onto my Fit2.
I wish Samsung would have better design and support for its product. But XDA fills in the gap. XDA ROCKS :highfive:
same problem
r_fung said:
Want to share my experience on fixing my GPS tracking during my run.
BACKGROUND
For a few weeks, I noticed that my Samsung Gear Fit 2 no longer tracks location during a run and walk. But it was doing that when I brough my Fit2 last year. I have Google and not much info on the problem. I have noticed that the Fit2 was working properly when I had a Samsung phone. The problem occurs when I switch to a new (non-Samsung) phone. Location is turned on on the Fit2, GPS was turned on on my new phone, reset Fit2, etc... nothing would bring back the GPS. More specifically, the problem is that after my run, the map would not show up in SHealth.
Until I read a post somewhere that Fit2 will not use its onboard GPS until it is disconnected from the phone. In a nutshell, someone on the Internet suggested that turning off Bluetooth on the phone allows her to track her run. I use GPS Info Watch watch face to verify. Bingo solution. But not yet. What about my alerts during my exercise? If I turn off Bluetooth, I would not be receiving alerts.
SOLUTION
The solution is simple. Enable Your Location (aka GPS) App Permissions on Gear Fit Plugin.
It seemed that Samsung design the logic of the Fit2 to read GPS location first from the phone (if the Fit2 is connected via Bluetooth). If the Fti2 loss connection to the phone, it will activate the onboard GPS. In my case, because My Location was blocked in App Permissions for Gear Fit Plugin, GPS location was not passed onto my Fit2.
I wish Samsung would have better design and support for its product. But XDA fills in the gap. XDA ROCKS :highfive:
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I have a same problem, but with bicycle, at first it worked, but after one time using, it does not recognize GPS and past track anymore, the permission is on, I just reinstaled galaxy wear app, I will see what will be now
shota_k said:
I have a same problem, but with bicycle, at first it worked, but after one time using, it does not recognize GPS and past track anymore, the permission is on, I just reinstaled galaxy wear app, I will see what will be now
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the GPS does not work with a bicycle
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Guys,
Lot of talk regarding battery life/ standalone/ accuracy of gear S apps for running.
Used both Nike and S Health- to me both were standalone.
Few bullets
1) some stated that even with GPS on and locked that s health still uses pedometer for distance? (is this true?)
2) I'm still confused if I need gear network AND/OR mobile network on/off - does this affect battery life- if I leave OFF all networks...will my run sync once I turn mobile network or Bt with phone on?
3) any way to get splits read to you (cannot believe this is missing)
4) I don't think this device will get through a marathon unfortunately
Yikes! Just did the car test (run shealth with hand out car) and I can confirm that it doesn't use gps for anything other than map. Feel duped
Relies on pedometer I think
Sorry for my blast posts. It is possible that it only records speeds in running range? I shook hands and didn't increase speed. Also noticed a bike option. Perhaps wrong about duped. Lol
Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
The Nike+ app is tracking the distance correctly with GPS though. If you have everything turned on (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth), then you would get probably about 4-5h of battery time. My goal is to use it on the next marathon and be able to listen on music for the last 60min of the race but i guess I need to run on 3:30 or something to make this possible
BUT, unfortunally the Nike+ app are missing the most important thing and that's the avg pace for the total run. It just show current pace and I don't really like that since it's changs so often so it's hard to see what speed you are runnig at.
So, yeah, I really hope for an update on either of these running apps ASAP!
HTC, thanks.! What a shame re s health app. How do you think it does distance for biking though if uses pedometer for distance?
The Nike app is close to being good..... I can't see the red on black, while your running you can't read scrolling info and of course the avg pace of run is the gold
Also in Nike app you have to turn on GPS manually, not from the app, if you want to track distance accurately. If you don't it uses accelerometer. With GPS on in general battery life is not good. My longest run was 30K in 2:45 had 18% battery left. Also there is one more strange thing about S health - calorie count maxes out at 1000
OK , so I did another test today - used shealth on bike mode. Stuck arm out car window with GPS on. Kept arm still. It tracked distance completely accurately. This tells me that the s health must indeed use GPS accurately. I think the jog portion only measures speeds in running or walking rates as it did not pass my car test.
The Nike app is a bummer as you can't verify GPS lock before it starts. Also the reasons mentioned prior.
The s health app is easier to read but doesn't show you 1 mile splits on the phone app. This is unacceptable.
Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
Yeah, i have been logging miles with the Nike ap too. Its not perfect, but it works for me.
I have 79 miles all logged on my Gear S nike ap this year.
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Not to mention Nike app wastes battery with hr but doesn't record it.
The S Health app records continuous HR during your run. I'm not sure how the Nike+ app works to record HR data. Is it continuously tracking/recording HR data? Or does it do it intermittently when you activate the display and wait for the information to scroll (on the bottom of the screen) to HR?
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Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
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In the Nike+ app there's a small round indicator in the upper righthand corner that turns green as soon as there is a GPS lock. Always on mode is great, but it increases battery drain, so I just do the wrist flick.
Jerome, I think he is referring to indicator if Nike gps locked in before you hit start run. No runner wants the first 0.1 mile not to be recorded.
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Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
xendula said:
Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Hello,
I guess I have to answer both Yes and No on that question
I've tried to reinstall, run without data, without simcard, yeah, tons of different test and it's always way off (map is accurate but the distance it shows is totally off). Another poster in this topic also had the same issue but then he told me to test and choose 'cycle' as training mode instead of running, and, when I did that, then S-Health tracks the distance accurate. So, with other words the application have support for tracking distance in that training mode but of some reason it seem to choose to track the distance by counting steps if I choose running/walking as training mode. So, i'm not sure, maybe your device of some reason have this working on all traning modes. I hope so, and, that someone can explain for me hoooooooooooooooooooow to change this
My gear s tracks distance very accurately when I run gps on. However with GPS off using pedometer it overestimated my distance by approx 0.1 per mile. So gps must work. I did discover as mentioned above, that at high speeds need cycle on.
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but my Gear S is the US ATT variety.
In my case, I am fairly certain that no maps are used for measuring distance. Maybe I lucked out.
And when I said my distance gets tracked earlier, I meant the tracks you see at the very bottom of the log in S Health, that correctly display where I took turns, looped back, etc. Without data on, there is no actual map behind them, with data on, there usually is (I had a few flukes before.) The pedometer would not know about turns taken, though.
BTW, I had issues getting a GPS lock for a while until I realized that my phone is messed up. Once I started using the Gear S in stand-alone mode, all was good.
Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
jeffrubenstein17 said:
Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
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Thanks for your post; I'd appreciate it if you could update with your future experience post update and after making sure you have a lock
So today farting around with my GPS. Step 1, turn on gps, step 2 disconnected from phone on gear manager. Step 3- tried s health. And behold. Wouldn't lock. But.... I noticed that the pic showed the watch and the phone trying to lock, yet phone disconnected! Watch still somehow was trying to lock onto phone gps. So... I then turned off watch Bluetooth thinking the watch Bt was still thinking it was connected to phone... And voila... Gps locked. Even locked when I turned on watch Bt afterwards.
Important to note the pic on shealth showing watch or watch plus phone.... This behavior is new since updating to lollipop
I used S health today to test my brand new gear s. I cycled to the office. No problems for this. I even used my BT headphones during this ride (15 minutes). Afterwards I downloaded the gpx data from S health to my dropbox and uploaded the file to my on-and-only favorite running app RUNTASTIC. In runtastic you can see the split times.
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I used S health today to test my brand new gear s. I cycled to the office. No problems for this. I even used my BT headphones during this ride (15 minutes). Afterwards I downloaded the gpx data from S health to my dropbox and uploaded the file to my on-and-only favorite running app RUNTASTIC. In runtastic you can see the split times.
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Correction, gpx only available if activity is cycling. Tried other activities but only cycling is provided with the option to export gpx stats. Strange.
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jeffrubenstein17 said:
Nice day finally.
Went for a 9mile jog. Turned on gps and went with Nike app. Saw the GPS and went.
Went to look at stats and apparently gps stayed grey (couldn't see in bright light)... Stunk. (also stinks couldn't read the red ticker tape at bottom in sun during run)- I'd use shealth if it had splits.
Anyway got home and tried s health. Also wouldn't lock gps. Linked with phone which I previously left home.
Went to gear manager and appa-and some odd update pushed to watch. Then gps worked again after disconnecting phone.
Bummer (and odd)
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In Nike+, I found that I have to give the watch a moment to refresh the screen before stopping activity at the end of my run, because every time my screen goes black, the watch remembers those very last stats. When I turn the screen on for the first time after starting my run, it will show 0 km and a grey GPS signal, then go to the actual kms run and green GPS signal after a moment.
I use my Gear S in stand-alone mode, with BT off, location on and data on when running. One of the latest Gear S updates combined sHealth with Nike+ which slows down the signal lock in Nike+, from what I've read, so I don't have it installed. sHealth GPS lock takes forever and a day on my watch, while Nike+ is instantaneous.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience about Gear S. I have also used Gear S and I found few issues with health monitoring apps. I am not using Gear S anymore. Now I am thinking about having a Modular smart watch.
thanks to biktor_bj soon we will be able to run strava, endomodo, runastic, mapmyfitness, runkeeper and every other amazing apps out there, THANK YOU <3
OMG I totally missed biktor's thread!! Thanks for posting this.
hackerse7en said:
thanks to biktor_bj soon we will be able to run strava, endomodo, runastic, mapmyfitness, runkeeper and every other amazing apps out there, THANK YOU <3
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Who and when will this be ?
peter7 said:
Who and when will this be ?
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we dont know, but he is working on it, some of the things are already working,
you can follow biktor_bj's thread here
Hi all.
I don't know If you all know this, but I found a very big bug (or mistake) from Samsung.
I was a bit concerned about being stolen,robbed, or simply forget where the watch is.
So I looked up an app to locate Gear S by its GPS on mobile (mine is Galaxy S5) , and I have found nothing.
(apps like Cerberus, "find my mobile" from Samsung, etc... for Gear S)
So I tried Gear Manager app.
There's "Find my gear" option, you can find the watch If it is bluetooth thetered.
On "Find my gear" menu, you can see "Turn On Share Location".
To turn it on, you need to enable GPS on your mobile. Once it's done, you can use "Locate Gear" and you'll have Gear S location address on your mobile (great!).
This feature also works when Gear is not bluetooth thetered but connected remotely (both devices connected to the intenet (it's not need same network, I tried 4G on mobile and WiFi on Gear and it works).
That's very nice and important, because in case of not being bluetooth paired you can still find your watch, or at least, the address where it is.
You can also disable internet on both devices and they will be connected remotely again If you enable internet on them.
You can also turn off both devices and turn them on later and they will be connected remotely again by internet and "Share Location" will keep working.
The BUG:
You can disable GPS on your mobile, but do not open Gear Manager. If you do it, "Locate Gear" will be greyed, and you will lose the "Share location".
To "Turn On Share Location" again you must be bluetooth paired! But what If I can't find my watch to do it!
This is a software bug, because you can turn your mobile off (GPS will be off, of course), turn Gear S off, you turn both of them on again, they are connected remotely and "Share Location" will be working SINCE you enable GPS on your mobile before opening Gear Manager app.
So, this is my tip: DO NOT EVER open Gear Manager without enabling GPS before If you want to keep "share location" feature working.
I believe I'm not the only one with this bug.
My S5 (G900M) is running ZTO OC4 (5.0), Gear Manager version: 2.2.15022599.
R750B - ZTO - OA9.
If anyone knows an app else to locate our Gear S using GPS?
Let me know If you have this bug too...
Thanks.
without being flippant or unhelpful I don't quite understand the problem
don't get me wrong I'm very often puzzled why some people don't understand other peoples use case issues
but ... being a wristwatch, my Gear S is either on my wrist, being charged nearby, or otherwise in one of a relatively small number of discrete locations (including maybe in the washing machine, somewhere under my pillow, or down the back of the sofa)
I for one found Apple's "find my iDevice" very useful in locating said devices and reducing sleepless nights:
"Did I leave my iphone/macbook at work, in the car, in the hotel, airport or where I was working today.... did my iphone bounce out of my pocket somewhere else ? ... has someone stolen it ?" etc.
If the device still had a charge and a signal I could locate it, breathe a sigh of relief, contact those locations and/or send a message "please return REWARD no questions asked"
wrt to theft, muggings or my own cognitive impairment I'm not so sure "find my Gear S" would be as useful - the Gear S will be either somewhere in my house or my workplace, or gone for good ... ??
I personally leave gps off until I exercise. So that being said, in order for find my watch to be effective id like to see gps automatically turned on when away from my phone. That way if it was ever left somewhere other then my house I could actually find it
Easy... never trun gps off = no bug.
I use my GS as a stand alone phone for work and a Note 4 as my private phone.
I treat my GS like any other phone. All features always on, brightness full and charge it every night.
No big deal, no issues, everything works great.
Samsung Gear S gps not work on other country
I brought the GS in canada, mainly used as standalone and no SIM. I loaded with offline maps canada + italy. It works in north amercia and able to locate me and show directions. When I was in italy, GS never able to locate my current spot. it simply looping in "finding me" within the HERE map app. I wonder is it locked by design to prevent use in other country. or there is a GPS fix or needed to be rooted?
Has anybody got Cloud Sync to work?
I want notifications to go to my watch without a bluetooth connection.
I can connect the watch to wifi but I can't get any updates from my watch.
I have the same problem. I am using a Note 4.
I already did a reset without a result .
The asus support could not help me.
It seems that not many owners tries to use this feature. Would be interesting if any zwatch 2 works with wifi.
I know mine does not respond to 'OK Google' when I am out of BT range, even if it says it is connected to WiFi. I do seem to be able to get notifications though, and I have always been able to execute Tasker Tasks from Wear Tasker.
But Android Wear docs say "OK Google" should work. I have seen similar reports from others using different watches so I am guessin this is just some typical broken Google goodness we'll have to wait for them to straighten out.
I used to have tons of sync issues with my Zenwatch (both first, second gen), and this trick solved all my issues - have no idea how and why, but it worked:
Just let my Zenwatch battery go empty, did not charge it for 4-5 days, than recharging. It connected my phone (mate 7) again normally, and all syncs (in my case weather, notifications, step counts) worked fine again - permanently. NO idea how it works (emptying cache watch?), but it worked for me.
All other suggestions of forums (re-installing, reconnecting): not..
Jus my 2c
After a bit of research and some common sense troubleshooting, I have my watch working as expected on my local Wi-Fi network.
I read something somewhere that Wear has had some issues on higher Wi-Fi channels. I also downloaded WiFi Analyzer to check used channels in my area. All APs were in the neighborhood of ch 6-11.
I forced my router to ch 1 and bingo. Phone is now upstairs at the other end of the house and everything is working great, including 'OK Google' (knock on wood).
My ZW 2 has a working wifi connection (2.4Ghz Port1). I know that because google maps on the watch is working even when the phone is switched off.
My problem ist, that no notification appears on the phone and no "ok google" command works, when phone and watch are only connected via wifi and bluetooth is switched off.
The asus support told me, that i am the only person with this problem who contacted them.
Seems to be a problem with my galaxy note 4.
I will give it a try with a xperia z3 compact the next days.
I canĀ“t believe this is a hardware problem.
roboterente
Hi,
I am trying to work around Mi Fit requiring location to connect to the BIP. I don't usually have location on (and don't want to) and every night when I set flight mode the connection is lost and notifications won't work until I enable location again and Mi Fit connects.
So, is there an app that does not require location to connect to the BIP? I asked Amazfit support and they said it is necessary - but didn't say what for.
If not, would it be possible to trick Mi Fit into "thinking" that location is on? Would there be an app to do that? I've seen apps to fake GPS location, but what I'd like to do is make Mi Fit read location as enabled (and maybe remember last location obtained?) without having location really enabled.
Any ideas on how to keep the connection between the phone and the watch without enabling location every time are welcome.
Thanks!
In case anyone wonders, I got it to connect by connecting to the watch via Bluetooth settings. First I had to force stop Mi Fit, then go to Settings, Bluetooth and link the phone to the Bip. Then, reopen Mi Fit and it connects everytime you expect it to
Cheers!