Does anyone use adoptable storage on 128GB+ MicroSDs with success? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an ASUS ZenPad 3S 10 (Z500M) tablet that I tried to use with a SanDisk Ultra 128GB MicroSDXC card configured with adoptable storage under android 6.0. It hasn't been a success. I install a ton of games with large obb files from my googleplay account to it, and though it works fine for a time, after a while, I get strange errors and can't write or delete from the MicroSD card or transfer files to it via USB data cable anymore. A reboot fixes it, but only temporarily. I'm thinking it's either bugs in adoptable storage with 6.0 or the size of the card. Anyone have success with a similar setup?
I'd like to try switching over to formatting the Sandisk as external storage, but since my ZenPad 3S 10 can't be rooted, I have no way to run obb files off of it with apps that allow you to do this. Is there any possible way to change the default installation folder of android games and apps to a MicroSDXC card on the ASUS ZenPad 3S 10 (Z500M)? I have this sneaking suspicion that adoptable storage is just not stable and reliable with 128GB microsd cards though I'm open to the idea that it's something else causing this issue

So... I guess it is absolutely, totally, completely and utterly impossible to run Android games and obb files off of a 128GB microSDXC card formatted as portable external SD storage on an unrooted android device under MarshMallow. Not even the best of the best of the most genius android hackers has found a solution apparently. Alas, I have no recourse *insert the saddest emoji face you can find here*

JackOfOwls said:
So... I guess it is absolutely, totally, completely and utterly impossible to run Android games and obb files off of a 128GB microSDXC card formatted as portable external SD storage on an unrooted android device under MarshMallow. Not even the best of the best of the most genius android hackers has found a solution apparently. Alas, I have no recourse *insert the saddest emoji face you can find here*
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How's this going for you now that Nougat 7.0 is available for the 3S 10?

This is why moat oem removed that option from their devices. The way Android works doesn't really work with apps on sdcards and since Google removed all sdcard code from Android each oem uses their own code and it doesn't always work right.

I can somehow confirm this problem - I'm using a 128GB SanDisk microSD in my Moto G4 Plus (Android 7.0) and it works fine for some time. But occasionally all apps that are installed on the SD card get "corrupted" and force close as soon as you open them. Uninstalling and reinstalling the apps from Play Store solves the problem (reboot / cache wipe / etc. does not in my case). Logcat showed some permission denied errors, so I'm guessing it's a similar problem. Unfortunally it seems like there is almost no discussion about such an issue, if you Google it only stuff like "how to unofficially enable adoptable storage using ADB". Have you tried it with a smaller SD card like 64GB?

TheXorg said:
I can somehow confirm this problem - I'm using a 128GB SanDisk microSD in my Moto G4 Plus (Android 7.0) and it works fine for some time. But occasionally all apps that are installed on the SD card get "corrupted" and force close as soon as you open them. Uninstalling and reinstalling the apps from Play Store solves the problem (reboot / cache wipe / etc. does not in my case). Logcat showed some permission denied errors, so I'm guessing it's a similar problem. Unfortunally it seems like there is almost no discussion about such an issue, if you Google it only stuff like "how to unofficially enable adoptable storage using ADB". Have you tried it with a smaller SD card like 64GB?
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No, I haven't. I have heard though that smaller MicroSD cards i.e. 32GB work much more reliably with adoptable storage but haven't tested it myself.

I can confirm that on my s4 mini the adoptable storage runs stable with a 64 GB card - however, I face one nasty issue: after each reboot, the app icons disappear from the launcher. I guess this has to do with too slow mounting of the sd card by the system, however this is annoying. Does anybody have a solution for this? Have LineageOS 14.1 installed.

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64GB MicroSD and Nearby Devices

Seems like when I have 64GB microsd inserted my nearby devices seem to be disabled. When I add my 32gb in there I am able to enable the nearby devices. Is anyone else getting the same thing? I'm on the latest BTU stock firmware.
komugi said:
Seems like when I have 64GB microsd inserted my nearby devices seem to be disabled. When I add my 32gb in there I am able to enable the nearby devices. Is anyone else getting the same thing? I'm on the latest BTU stock firmware.
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Strange! Never heard anything like that. Try removing your sd card and try again.
Reformat your card and try again.
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Actually upon testing. It seems like when I use cf-root, then use titanium backup to restore, it will disable it. Hmm. I wonder which program interferes with it.
same happening to me. Using 64 GB microsd and cannot enable nearby devices option until i clear its cache/data. Very starange!!!
Any workaround other than resetting the phone/reformatting the sd card???
komugi said:
Seems like when I have 64GB microsd inserted my nearby devices seem to be disabled. When I add my 32gb in there I am able to enable the nearby devices. Is anyone else getting the same thing? I'm on the latest BTU stock firmware.
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I have the same problem. I have a SanDisk 64 GByte card and nearby devices is disabled since the latest firmware udpate (I9300XXBLG8).
However, when I go to storage options and unmount the SD card, I can activate "nearby devices" without any problems, but only the phones internal storage is shared, even if I reconnect my SD card later on again.
I'm not quite sure if this is really a problem of the size of the SD card or if the problem is related to the files on the SD card. I think "nearby devices" is analyzing the SD card for content to share and somehow fails in this process with the latest firmware.
I have tons of music and videos on the card.
I just figured out, that nearby devices gets enabled after a while, if I only share videos and photos. I have tons of mp3 on my sd card.

[Q]SDcard doesn't work

Android 4.4.2 on padfone x rooted. Even before root SDcard shows as there but doesn't install anything to. Uses on board storage. Any fix for this
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Android 4.4.2 on padfone x rooted. Even before root SDcard shows as there but doesn't install anything to. Uses on board storage. Any fix for this
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I think the problem is not so much a Padfone issue but a Kitkat one. Apparently Android no longer allows 3rd party apps to write to a SD card. They say this is for security reasons. Native apps seem to write just fine to a memory card. Here is an article explaining this:http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes
There are workarounds. First search for SD card fix in Playstore. There are some apps that are supposed to fix this. I am not sure how well these work however. I think there are some custom roms that also deal with this.
I am going to try another method. I will save to the internal storage then, using the native file manager, transfer the files to the SD card. When I need to use those files transfer them back into internal storage. This method is a a bit cumbersome and may not work as well as I hope but I kind of understand the security concerns. I do not have a lot of storage needs and for the most part will just use internal storage but for those other times will try this method.
Yeah sdcard fix. I'm testing now
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format
-Epix- said:
Android 4.4.2 on padfone x rooted. Even before root SDcard shows as there but doesn't install anything to. Uses on board storage. Any fix for this
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Hi. Have you tried formatting your SD to exFat format?
I have been experiencing problem with 32 GB NTFS SD (all galleries stopped working, even internal storage was unable to reach). Luckily, exFat is working like a charm now
Exfat does seem to be the new standard. From what I have read it is the only format that allows uhs-1 microsd cards to properly record video in HD and UHD.
For example I tried a 16gb class 4 card in my PFX formatted in fat32 and exfat . UHD recording was very corrupted on both formats. On my SanDisk ultra uhs-1 16GB, everything was smooth.
When you format any card in the PFX, it will format as exfat by default.
The PFX chipset is rated to handle the UHS class Micro SD cards and you do see a notable speed difference when transferring files.
Compare this to the galaxy note 3 which formats anything you throw at it into exfat and transfer speeds are horrible
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[Q] Lollipop and SD card issues

Hey guys I have a problem with 32GB Transcend microSD card on my VF Smart Ultra 6, which has a pretty much clean version of Android 5.0.2. I used FAT32 first and then without any error or notification, the apps I moved to SD card just disappeared from the system. All other files on the card were perfectly accessible from the filemanager though. When browsing through the app list the apps were present, but had a grey icon with SD on it. I had to reboot phone for them to appear again. I formated the SD card with exFAT, which is working perfectly fine, however when I want to grant SD write permission to filemanager the SD card is not present in the list. Is this a bug, how can I fix this?
Thanks.
Medard22 said:
Hey guys I have a problem with 32GB Transcend microSD card on my VF Smart Ultra 6, which has a pretty much clean version of Android 5.0.2. I used FAT32 first and then without any error or notification, the apps I moved to SD card just disappeared from the system. All other files on the card were perfectly accessible from the filemanager though. When browsing through the app list the apps were present, but had a grey icon with SD on it. I had to reboot phone for them to appear again. I formated the SD card with exFAT, which is working perfectly fine, however when I want to grant SD write permission to filemanager the SD card is not present in the list. Is this a bug, how can I fix this?
Thanks.
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There ara some fixes for this problem, but you have to get root and custom recovery
jazzzzy said:
There ara some fixes for this problem, but you have to get root and custom recovery
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Aww, that sucks , so this is a known bug. Any chance this might be fixed in 5.1? Vodafone promised to bring 5.1 to this phone.
I found a fix eventually. I reformated SD card to exFAT and then fixed write permissions for SD card by using root and SD Card Fix app. You cannot grant write permissions to exFAT without root for some reason (some dumb reason really). This problem never happened again on exFAT.

Can't adopt sd card?

So i had serious memory issues, like out of my 8gb 5.2gb was used for system data and 1gb for the default apps so i barely had room for ads , so i bought an 16gb sd card but i couldn't move all of the apps i barely could do anything on them(i dont really take photos/videos so they didn't take more than 10mb maybe). I didn't even have space to get the marshmallow update but i did some reading an apparently in the update i could adopt my sd card as internal storage and the only con was like slower speed but i don't really care for that myself. so i did a factory reset i updated to marshmallow erased my sd card memory before factory-resetting and when i finally opened the phone with 6.0 installed and went to my storage options and in sd settings all there is is eject and format, not format as internal storage, help??? also excuse me for horrible grammar/punctuation.
Right now after resetting i already have 6.2gb used out of 8gb and i didn't install one single app its all just after resetting.
Phone:Lg spirit 4g LTE(device wasnt in the main lg device page), android 6.0(marshmallow)
Not all Marshmallow firmwares / phones offer this capability. You should be able to force it from following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-configure-sd-card-internal-t3392128

Apps to SD

Hey guys, I just got this amazing phone/tablet/game console.
The 32GB internal storage is little bit not enough.
Is it possible to move Games or obb files to SD or even better format SD as internal storage?
Speed is not a problem i have 128GB UHS-3 SD card.
Thanks for any help.
You could try to format the sdcard as adoptable storage as described in this article. I am using ithis on my phone (which has Nougat 7.1.1) together with a 64GB card. 32GB as adoptable storage and 32GB as normal sdcard. But it should work on Oreo, too.
Thats what i want to do but it looks like the option is missing...
you need to do it by using adb on the command line later on it's mounted correctly automatically
Edit: I just tried it, unfortunately there are some permissions missing ...
Bought 128 Go scard for my 8.4 M5.
Can't find a way to move apps on sdcard or use adoptable storage...
It does not seem available.
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There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
thref23 said:
There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
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I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
AndDiSa said:
I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
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Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
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Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
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Oh so that's what the default storage thing does, I clicked on it thinking it would change the default save for in the future, but rather it deleted some game files (obb I think-no progress deleted). So I have to download it again, quite annoying as currently I have poor wifi, and the 1.5gb download would take well ages
Also the default location setting made VLC not see the difference between internal storage and sd card, it was like all merged together in "internal storage"
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Also it is a bit buggy, i downloaded an app with a hard-drive connected to the tablet through USB and it downloaded to that! I unplugged it and got loads of errors.
This a deal breaker for me so no adoptable storage?
Can anyone please recommend any other options for adoptable storage. I am rooted and have tried openkirin ROMs but none have support for adoptable storage. Have also tried some apps in the play store but none are working as intended. All I just want is to use an SD card as part of internal adoptable storage.
I need this as well, happy to install custom ROM if this is whats needed but would like to extend beyound the 32gb with a card
Solved in Developer Options
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
boreskull said:
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
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No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
AndDiSa said:
No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
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I'm using this on my MediaPad M5 10 and it works. All my apps are being installed on the SD. This solution is based on practical experience not theory.
If you ensure the default storage location is set to external storage...
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
boreskull said:
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
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Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
marvi0 said:
Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
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Yep
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
marvi0 said:
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/353s3fag5i5pwnw/AABjtdRkwPzCjygh_yUxt7Eka?dl=0
About 12GB is system data on the internal storage.
After installing 43 GB of apps (Games) my internal storage has 18GB and the SD Card has 37GB

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