I confirmed that the charger that came with my device (h870) is actually a QC2.0 charger and it doesn't support QC3.0.
so, in case you want to decrease your charging time you might wanna get a new charger that supports QC3.0
abdullahziad said:
I confirmed that the charger that came with my device (h870) is actually a QC2.0 charger and it doesn't support QC3.0.
so, in case you want to decrease your charging time you might wanna get a new charger that supports QC3.0
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What app is that? Are you sure it's accurate? Have you tried plugging in a different QC3 charger and varifying that app says QC3?
Yeah, I read that before the phone shipped as well. Or maybe just when it was release. Can't remember.
One theory at the time (at least I think it was just a theory) was that they went with a QC2.0 charger to lessen the wear on the battery. Don't know how accurate that is though. Neither the theory or the fact that QC2 would case less wear than QC3.
Yeah I stand corrected, it does seem to be a QC2. I thought they advertised it coming with a QC3 charger. Oh well it's plenty fast for me. I mean how fast do we really need? I can get almost 50% in 20 minutes.
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Yeah I stand corrected, it does seem to be a QC2. I thought they advertised it coming with a QC3 charger. Oh well it's plenty fast for me. I mean how fast do we really need? I can get almost 50% in 20 minutes.
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Pretty much this. I haven't needed any faster charging. Might buy one for traveling. Topping up quickly here and there but for now it's plenty fast. ?
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What app is that? Are you sure it's accurate? Have you tried plugging in a different QC3 charger and varifying that app says QC3?
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it's not an app, it's a built in feature in the software, can be accessed by entering the hidden menu: dial *#546368#*xxx# (xxx = phone model) > SVC Menu > Battery Test > Charging Test.
and yes, i tried plugging it to a QC 3.0 charger and it said "QC3.0 TA" after the test.
Specs on lge.com say qc3. I just repeated your test from hidden menus and it does indeed report qc2.I also have felt that was the only charging speed I was receiving
Just order this to test. Will report back when received it and tested.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B016LO4UTA/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Received the qc3 charger. Phone still reports QC2 on original cable. Then tried the usb3 replacement cable I bought and the same results. No qc3
Mine is an h872 Tmobile.
P.S. Regardless of what it is reporting, it does seem to charge faster, based on Ampere. Maybe a software fix LG needs to make???
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it's not an app, it's a built in feature in the software, can be accessed by entering the hidden menu: dial *#546368#*xxx# (xxx = phone model) > SVC Menu > Battery Test > Charging Test.
and yes, i tried plugging it to a QC 3.0 charger and it said "QC3.0 TA" after the test.
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Do you have a sceen shot showing qc 3? thanks
Hmm, T-Mobile H872 G6 says QC 2.0 TA as well.
I just tried with a 3rd party QC3.0 charging base. Still shoes 2.0 TA in hidden settings menu.
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Yah, this is odd. The specs on the Tmobile model given at LG say quick charge 3.0, and that a quick charge 3.0 charger is included. Hmm.... Self test menu indeed says quick charge 2.0
abdullahziad said:
it's not an app, it's a built in feature in the software, can be accessed by entering the hidden menu: dial *#546368#*xxx# (xxx = phone model) > SVC Menu > Battery Test > Charging Test.
and yes, i tried plugging it to a QC 3.0 charger and it said "QC3.0 TA" after the test.
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FWIW, I'm charging mine on an iphone 5 charger and it says QC 2.0 TA. Might not be an accurate status menu.....
abdullahziad said:
it's not an app, it's a built in feature in the software, can be accessed by entering the hidden menu: dial *#546368#*xxx# (xxx = phone model) > SVC Menu > Battery Test > Charging Test.
and yes, i tried plugging it to a QC 3.0 charger and it said "QC3.0 TA" after the test.
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By following this procedure, my G6 H870 Italian does not show any value.
What should I do?
I connected the original LG charger, Travel Adapter made in China by PNTELECOM model MCS-H06EP after typing the test code.
I also tried to connect it first, same result: each entry does not contain any data.
The old Bait 'n Switch, I guess.
Sent a query off to LG about it, I'll let you know what they say
Hey in case any of you need more evidence in this discussion I did a test myself. Starting with the stock charger then switching to a QC3 charger and then back to stock. I seem like for whatever reason the stock charger is slower than it should be. The fastest charging I am getting does appear to be on par with LG's claim of 50 percent in 30 minutes but I am really not sure what the deal is.
Update on the issue: LG communicated with me, and engineers said that the phone's internal service software hasn't been updated yet to account for and report quick charge 3.0, it will only display 2.0. He said this will be present in an update to come.
Cheers!
StevenRN
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Update on the issue: LG communicated with me, and engineers said that the phone's internal service software hasn't been updated yet to account for and report quick charge 3.0, it will only display 2.0. He said this will be present in an update to come.
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amazing. I haven't tried the code yet to access the hidden menu on my at&t model G6 but the wall unit will only support 2 different voltages at a single amp rating per voltage rating. qc 3.0 spec allows the phone to communicate with the charger to ask for a specific voltage and amperage it believe it can handle based on charge & temperature. I will soon monitor the recharge rate with my new anker powerport +1 with qc 3.0. the battery life is so good on this phone I might have to test a recharge tomorrow. Its been almost a full day and I'm only down to 80%.........
34 minute screen time though ! haha mostly idle.
I have the always on display set to go out while I'm at work
steven.rn said:
Update on the issue: LG communicated with me, and engineers said that the phone's internal service software hasn't been updated yet to account for and report quick charge 3.0, it will only display 2.0. He said this will be present in an update to come.
Cheers!
StevenRN
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Heh. IIRC, the same thing happened with the G4 and its new QC2.0
update- My G6 (871) model still reports QC2.0 in the hidden test menu
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I have a nice collection of quick charge 2.0 chargers around the house, so this is a real negative blow if true.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
It still charges very fast with the stock charger.
Old news by the way.
What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
RED ZMAN said:
Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
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I was going to say this as well. Google is all about proper standards and not going proprietary (probably part of their "Dont be evil" motto). It will suck for a while since USB Type C is not widely adopted yet but soon enough it will be.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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So they tested a few. A lot of them worked, as in charging quickly, fast or "rapidly". Please read the article...tsk tsk...
It's a good thing I purchased a few Aukey and Tronsmarts that were just on sale recently. And I'm sure a lot of us jumped on those deals too, so a lot of us are good.
ylexot said:
What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
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I don't know what I was thinking honestly. I guess I just wanted some other opinions. I know it will be all good down the road. It just sucks that I have a good 3 or 4 chargers that won't be able to get the job done as fast anymore. I did read the entire article, but it looks like they've updated it a couple times since.
Actually whichever phone you may get, there would be some missing features always. Better cope with it and wait for the next editions.
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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WRONG
Quickcharge is more efficient with the same cable. Fastcharge needs a thicker cable to work the same.
/intentionally being vague and not explaining the electronics theory behind my wild claims in order to get a rise out of the un-aptly name sparky.
To add to this, USB Power isn't dumb.. there's a handshake involved where the device says what it needs. You can have a charger capable of 1.21 jiggawatts if you like, if it thinks the device caps out at 2A, that's what it'll send. It needs to understand the chargng protocol in use.
thesparky007 said:
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
Luxferro said:
Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
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You've probably heard of quick charging, turbo charging, adaptive fast charging, rapid charging, and Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 before - or at least one or two of these things. What you may not know is that all of them are actually basically the same thing, based on the same licensed technology from Qualcomm known as Quick Charge.
With that basic premise in mind, what I want to dispel in this article is the notion that you need an OEM-branded charger to get the maximum charging speed out of your smartphone, because this generally isn't true. And understanding that could save you a fair bit of money, especially if your phone doesn't come with a quick charger, or you need a second one for work or travel.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
There might subtle differences between how google implemented it with the 6P vs the others but the overall premise is the same
thesparky007 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
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That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
Luxferro said:
That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
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No, the whole point is that the OP can still use those chargers he already has and get the same result.
Good news folks.
The 5X has a QC 2.0 chip. http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/
The 6P likely has the same (we'll have to wait and see).
Now the question is when will the devices be certified and the chip enabled.
toyanucci said:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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It is insanely fast. I have a Chromebook Pixel that uses the type-c connector. It's faster than both my turbo charger and Samsung's fast charger. Most of my connectors are the regular USB. I didn't buy a lot of QC chargers other than what came with my phones, and one Motorola turbo charger.
Funny, was just watching the 5x teardown - condensed version - and they mention quick charge 2.0 chip was there.
Then I was reading about the n6 for $270 on eBay, and they mention this about qc 2.0;
can regain six hours of power after 15 minutes of charging with Motorola's special turbocharger that features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology.
We get 7 hrs with 10 min charging time on the 6p, with a bigger battery.
Guess which I prefer to have .....
the bottom line is how long will it take from 0-100% charged
I'm just wondering, what charging cables people use for the LG G5. I have the Quick Charge 3.0 by Aukey, but the cable that came with the phone seems to be a hit and miss with full charging speed. I find when you unplug it and plug it back in, sometimes the charging speed will jump up.
adamsavage said:
I'm just wondering, what charging cables people use for the LG G5. I have the Quick Charge 3.0 by Aukey, but the cable that came with the phone seems to be a hit and miss with full charging speed. I find when you unplug it and plug it back in, sometimes the charging speed will jump up.
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Besides the cable that came with the phone I bought a couple of USB 3.0 Type A to Type C cables made by Anker from Amazon. I forgot how much they cost but I can assure you that quality is top notch and performance is excellent.
I have the 2metre AUKEY one. Not sure if it's related but since I upgraded to Nougat, phone takes longer to charge!
Lord Morpheus said:
I have the 2metre AUKEY one. Not sure if it's related but since I upgraded to Nougat, phone takes longer to charge!
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I've heard a lot of people complain bout LG phones with 3rd party chargers. The charger would support quick charge, but phone won't. I think LG blocks some 3rd party chargers. Because some chargers wouldn't work, but switch rom and they would. That is straight bs of LG to pull.
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I just got my friends who have LG G5's an AUKEY QC 3.0 charger and told them to use the cable that came with their phone for now. I do need to recoommend some USB-C cables to them that are capable of QC 3.0, but yes from all I've read, quality of cables is a major issue. Some work and some don't even the manufactures on Amazon don't know how to answer questions about their products when you ask.
Lord Morpheus said:
I have the 2metre AUKEY one. Not sure if it's related but since I upgraded to Nougat, phone takes longer to charge!
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I've noticed it doesn't seem to charge nearly as fast as LG claims it should. It takes the standard 2-3 hours, depending on what battery % it's at. I try to not let it go below 30% when I can. It doesn't even say fast charging anymore, just charging..
I think the cables are still too expensive. Also, I have so many micro USB cables
I bought 5 adapters on ebay ( 4,50€ here in Germany ) from MICRO- USB to USB Type C. So far everything has no problems and yes QC3.0 on my Anker PowerBank works as well.
I just received my Infinity S9 plus and I noticed there is no option in settings-device maintenance-battery-advanced settings for Fast wireless charging. Same with my wife's phone. My friend with Verizon version has it.
Any idea if they disabled this or what?
thanks
What are you talking about? Plug in the phone to a fast charger and it fast charges. If your charger doesn't support that then it doesn't fast charge. Same thing with my old LG V20.
Mine fast charges fine, but seems slower than my LG a little bit.
"I noticed there is no option in settings-device maintenance-battery-advanced settings for Fast wireless charging''
Mine doesn't show the setting either on international version.
rdefino said:
I just received my Infinity S9 plus and I noticed there is no option in settings-device maintenance-battery-advanced settings for Fast wireless charging. Same with my wife's phone. My friend with Verizon version has it.
Any idea if they disabled this or what?
thanks
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I have a Verizon phone and I have no such option. I only have an option for battery saving apps and fast cabled charging.
It was the same for me. The option appears after you put it on a wireless charger or at least a fast charging compatible one.
Cristi10 said:
It was the same for me. The option appears after you put it on a wireless charger or at least a fast charging compatible one.
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Strange, my friend who has a verizon model has the setting for fast wireless charging.
wonder if they are removing it so the phones don;t over heat...maybe.
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Strange, my friend who has a verizon model has the setting for fast wireless charging.
wonder if they are removing it so the phones don;t over heat...maybe.
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Like i said, you need to put the phone on an wireless charger and the option appears
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Like i said, you need to put the phone on an wireless charger and the option appears
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Odd, I tried that already and the settings still don't show. Now I'm not using a samsung fast wireless charger, but it's a fast wireless charger.
Not sure what is causing it not to show.
My Verizon S9+ has it (maybe cause I use a wireless Samsung stand up wireless charger daily).
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My Verizon S9+ has it (maybe cause I use a wireless Samsung stand up wireless charger daily).
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Yeah, that makes sense if you are using a Samsung charger. I am using a standard samsung charge from the... I dont know what device days... BUt yeah, the message says something about fan noise. I do know that my charger has no fan.
Go to settings/advanced features/accessories. There you will find the option for fast wireless charging. For cable fast charging, the setting is in advanced under battery. Stupid that they put it in 2 different places
I just bought the samsung fast wireless charger 2018 model on sale at best buy for $50 few weeks ago, been working fine on my s9+ from Xfinity Mobile. As for the option your looking for never had to look for it or cared to as the wireless charging works out of the box. There's no "faster" than fast wireless charging option if that's what your looking for which I doubt lol. As seen in post #7 screenshot I have the same option listed.
Just a thought, but maybe it's the power adapter attached to it limiting it?
I have the Samsung stand-up one, but it might be on an old adapter, I'll check later and see if I can get mine to show the setting.
After connecting an adaptive fast charger wall adapter to the wireless charger, the option did indeed show up immediately.
I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
SmallTarzan said:
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
PriPhaze said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
arddy1 said:
Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
daniel0917 said:
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
g_seva said:
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
silmarx said:
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.
Hi guys!
My phone (Sony XPERIA Z3 Dual running LineageOS 18.1) has a problem when it's connected to charger and is doing heavy tasks.
I know it's not good to use phone while charging, but there are times that i'm not around my pc and want to use my phone instead, the bigger problem is, when my phone has low battery percentage and i need to keep using it. but the battery still discharges even when i connect it to a charger with a higher current (+500mAh more than the phone's own charger) then eventually shuts down
i heard smartphones draw a predefined amount of power from chargers.
Now i'm looking for a way to tweak the system to force my phone draw more current from those faster chargers to stop discharging while i'm using it.
as always, when i search the google the only things i find are a bunch of stupid articles which suggest turn of your phone while charging or put it on airplane mode, etc.
is there any way or any app that does these modifications on devices? or even make my phone use the charger's power as the primary power source?
Sure, your "chain of charge" works as intended?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/q-is-sony-z3-quick-charge-2-0-compatible.3005538/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
I have several devices and several chargers (and several cables)... and it does not always make sense what charger/cable works with what device My rule of thumb: Newer chargers like with QC4 (which usually support previous charging protocols as well) support more devices but sometimes it's just best with its original charger.
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Sure, your "chain of charge" works as intended?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/q-is-sony-z3-quick-charge-2-0-compatible.3005538/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge
I have several devices and several chargers (and several cables)... and it does not always make sense what charger/cable works with what device My rule of thumb: Newer chargers like with QC4 (which usually support previous charging protocols as well) support more devices but sometimes it's just best with its original charger.
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Thanks for your help, but i don't think fast charging technologies can be a satisfying solution since they don't charge the phones from 0 to 100 with same speed and after some time or some percentage their speed fallback to normal (according to what i heard) also those specific chargers are nowhere to be found and if i find one in my country, it will be too expensive for me.
btw, i can't understand what you mean by "chain of charge", sorry
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chain of charge
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I should have been more obvious
Charger <---> Cable <---> (Adapter) <---> Device
Sometimes I make assumptions how quick a certain combination will charge... Well, I am almost never right
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don't think fast charging technologies can be a satisfying solution
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Yes, would have agreed a year ago... but it seems to work better and better. Indeed, those chargers can be really expensive (was just lucky to get a QC3 from Baseus with 30W for 13€ recently).
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Charger <---> Cable <---> (Adapter) <---> Device
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Thanks bro, now i almost get it
Well, i have a little doubt regarding my phone's power management, most of the time if i use my phone while charging and then leave it at idle, the amount of current it receives won't return to the same amount it was before tasks, it shows "charging slowly" in the battery settings, so i have to disconnect and reconnect my phone to the charger in order to fix it.
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Sometimes I make assumptions how quick a certain combination will charge... Well, I am almost never right
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Well, chargers are different, i had a 1.5mAh Sony charger and used it when i had an Xperia SL (whose charger was 850mAh) it charged my phone so fast but it always got so hot, now that charger works normally with my current phone. cables are OK if they are OEM ones. my chargers and cables are both OK, i don't think there is anything wrong with them.