I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
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Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
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I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
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@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.
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Hoping to get my Mate 20 Pro on Friday. Looking for suggestions on any wireless charging pads / stands that are able to fully utilise the Mate 20 Pro's 15w wireless charging ability. Any ideas?
Just the orginal Huawei wirless charge pad
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Des...40371130&sr=8-6&keywords=15w+wireless+charger
Just search 15W Qi wireless charger on ebay? There's quite a few...
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https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Des...40371130&sr=8-6&keywords=15w+wireless+charger
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There are indeed several non-Huawei wireless chargers that claim 15W max output, but I haven't seen any that verify this claim with specifications other than in their seller's verbiage (no images of package). Time will tell if they actually can do this for the Mate 20 Pro. Hopefully someone will take one for the Team and try it out then post a screenshot of the charge.
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There are indeed several non-Huawei wireless chargers that claim 15W max output, but I haven't seen any that verify this claim with specifications other than in their seller's verbiage (no images of package). Time will tell if they actually can do this for the Mate 20 Pro. Hopefully someone will take one for the Team and try it out then post a screenshot of the charge.
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I've ordered one from Amazon due to come in tomorrow at work. Will test and let you know.
Unsure how I'l figure out its 15W as opposed to 10 or 7.5W?
Look on Google with : Huawei CP 60
This is reference of new Huawei wireless charger 15w.
In France, price is about 60€ : https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00259011.html
I find it on german website that ship in Europe : https://www.meintrendyhandy.de/shop/huawei-supercharge-qi-schnellladegerat-234124p.html
Please do
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I've ordered one from Amazon due to come in tomorrow at work. Will test and let you know.
Unsure how I'l figure out its 15W as opposed to 10 or 7.5W?
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Awesome, thanks for taking the plunge. Hope to hear good news.
There's a site that describes USB hardware, but that isn't really practical.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/07/accurately-measure-understand-smartphones-charging-speed/
And not sure about how valid results are, but an app on the Playstore called "Ampere" has decent ratings.
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/Nillk...eless+Charger&initiative_id=SB_20181111140116
Says that work with mate 20 pro
Anyone got any recommendations for a wireless charger. Don't really want to fork out £60.00 for the official. Been looking on ebay/amazon and see some are about £15-£20 and getting some decent reviews. It is just to sit on bed side table for charging though the night.
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Anyone got any recommendations for a wireless charger. Don't really want to fork out £60.00 for the official. Been looking on ebay/amazon and see some are about £15-£20 and getting some decent reviews. It is just to sit on bed side table for charging though the night.
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I remember using 2 cheap ones for my s8+ and they never worked as well as the original Samsung. Always got VERY hot, disconnected all the time when not placed exactly in the middle...they also made weird sounds too so no good for a night stand.
I recommend buying official gear... It's the wrong place to save money
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
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Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
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use the charging cable and adapter bundled with the original wireless charger
I got the CP60 bundled with my phone purchase, it came with an extra set of the 40W charger that comes with the phone. I have been using the typical 9W fast wireless charger and CP60 is definitely faster than those. My phone doesn't get hotter than 35 deg C while wireless charging as well.
I got the Anker 10W Qi charger, work great with the little "fast-charging" icon appearing on the phone :good:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07DBX67NC
Using the phone's charger with it so I can choose between wireless or ultra-fast :laugh:
Ordered 2 different chargers from Amazon. Both claim 15w charging but in reality none of them works. Just standard charging.
mysiak123 said:
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
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Yes same happens with me. I am using the charger that came with it
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Yes same happens with me. I am using the charger that came with it
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Me too, bloody awful for a £60 charger (even if I got it for free)
This one
https://www.amazon.de/Qi-zertifizie...=UTF8&qid=1544550288&sr=8-1&keywords=zens+15w
definately DOESN'T charge the Mate 20 Pro at 15W. No "wireless fast charging" indication, charging time is much longer than with Huawei's own wireless charger. Too bad, because the flexibility to be able to use it as a stand is great, but I ended up getting the original one. Just another world.
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mysiak123 said:
Anyway have somebody same issue with original wireless charger.
After put mobile on charger it's start charging, but after 3minutes start led light fast flashing and stop charging. After take off and put back on charger it's OK.
Have somebody same experiences?
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I just received it today, and just charged my phone from 88% to 100%, but during that (short) time I didn't have any issues. Obviously using the charger and the cable that came with it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CP6...036.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.31352e0emrhxvT
Very nice price.
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
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Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
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Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.
Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
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Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
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Wireless charging works through almost all cases so you should be fine.
Using my "Anker" wireless charger (here) and my "huawei smart view flip cover" (here) it charges no problem with case on. even with the case open flipped around to the back of the phone it still charges fine.
I guess it depends on how thick the case is or how good the charger is
Thank you
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
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Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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Yeah I only got a 10w charger as the original Huawei's charger last time I looked was 3x the price and wanted a desktop version rather then something flat. Wasn't too bothered about the time difference in charging as battery life are pretty awesome anyway! Maybe when the price comes down, then I'll get one. I do see the "green bubbling up" fancy animation, and charges up pretty quick. The Anker wireless charger I think is a good brand to some other cheapo Chinese brands.
As for the case, if its leather, I am assuming its pretty thick, but with my non scientific measurements, my charger handled at least 40 pages of glossy book/magazine paper that it can handle wireless charging! Not sure if further away from charger would make it less wattage getting through to the phone!
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does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
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does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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cheers. will try that out. its at 100% at the moment, so will give it a couple of hours to lose some charge!
Usually if I'm looking for something I Google it. Type exactly what your looking for, you can always add the best, guaranteed it usually throws something up.
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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well, not sure if I will be disappointed, but it came up at 820mA and I see 4.327V, so based on that calculation it came up as 3548. I doubt thats 35W, so I am gonna guess that is 3.5W? not sure where the advertised 10W charger comes in!
(based at currently already charged of 96% full)
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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I won't bother replying in future then. I gave you all the positive feedback you needed but I guess you wanted more answers to your question than you asked.
You answered your own question about the wattage so did not require a response.
Peace out
Yeah, 3.5W (although Ampere don't claim to be amazingly accurate)
There can be all sorts of issues with adapter compatibility. Did it come with an adapter? If not, does the adapter you're using support qc3.0?
I've got a supposed 15W charger so will test it when I get home.
well, I don't think I can recommend Anker wireless charger (here) - suppose to be 10W, but after using that Ampere program, it tells me that at most with the original Huawei adapter (though with a good quality usbB cable as Anker wireless isn't usbc), I got 910mA x 3.93v = 3.5w (with or without case - no difference). Quite poor compared to charging via the original adapter and usbC cable which gave me 3450mA x 4.0518v = 13.9w. I didn't expect wireless charging to match the same power as via wired, but did not expect that big a difference.
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
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Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
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ah right, that kinda makes sense. I thought that Volt mentioned in the app Ampere was the Volt coming in as its charging and not realise that its actually the Volt of the remaining battery. Obviously, my calculation is completely wrong. thanks for pointing that out!
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Fafner76 said:
If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
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Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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may I ask where did you get the Huawei wireless Charger for £20?
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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Hi Fafner 76
I did the charge On the huawei wireless charger and it works perfect with the case on and it charges at roughly as quick, its a result
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
lusp00ky said:
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.
Were i can by the original MI 9 MDY-10-EL 27W wall charger? Not EH, it's USA, Chinese plug adapter, with EU plug connector (Web, online shop). I don't need the wireless charger 20W, i bought it already. Mi France sell both for 50€, it's expensive. I found another one at Aliexpress, 18 USD, but I don't trust the seller, he has only 3 buyers and there is no aftersale expressions. On the other side, other products from this seller are poorly rated.
Bought 2 of those, can confirm 100% original at https://www.gearbest.com/chargers---power-adapters/pp_009422733270.html?wid=1433363
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Bought 2 of those, can confirm 100% original at https://www.gearbest.com/chargers---power-adapters/pp_009422733270.html?wid=1433363
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I bought a charger from there too, I tried 2 adapters (US to EU) and 2 cables (original Xiaomi cable and Baseus 5A cable), but I never get over 3300 mA. So which cable do you use? and which plug adapter?
And do you see Charging Turbo while charging? Because I don't. I'm running Xiaomi.eu ROM as well.
I have screens posted on another thread in this subsection charging it at over 4800mah if you don't want to believe me. Use the search function.
EDIT: Yes, turbo charging is instant, also am using xiaomi.eu
omgomg said:
I have screens posted on another thread in this subsection charging it at over 4800mah if you don't want to believe me. Use the search function.
EDIT: Yes, turbo charging is instant, also am using xiaomi.eu
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Which app didi you use to measure it?
I get something around 3800 ma/h with the official one I bought at a Xiaomi store here in Shanghai.
I use ampere and accu battery for measuring.
JetzNicht said:
Which app didi you use to measure it?
I get something around 3800 ma/h with the official one I bought at a Xiaomi store here in Shanghai.
I use ampere and accu battery for measuring.
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Ampere Pro. By the way I use the official cable that came with the phone.
Also, keep in mind the charging amps will fluctuate during the whole process, as in ANY lithium battery in the world. To better have an idea, monitor the charging when the phone is around 30%~40% charged.
The guys asks for the EL version, specifically said he does not want the EH version, but what do you all do ? Recommend the EH version, of course.
Great help you are.
I can't find the EL version anywhere except bundled with the 20W charging pad. I don't understand why it is so hard to find
Thank you all. I didn't find it. I bought the original EH version from Gearbest, with gocomma EU plug adapter. It shows charge turbo.
I have a turbo showing adapter which has that distinctive "l" icon, but it never goes up around 2300-2400 amps. I'm assuming it's fake. So just getting turbo sign or a case without printing errors doesn't necessarily mean that the brick you got is genuine.
Nightflowers said:
I can't find the EL version anywhere except bundled with the 20W charging pad. I don't understand why it is so hard to find
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Well, I did not find it even like that. I only found some pictures of it on here, from a French guy who had it bundled with his Mi 9, and on some Russian forum.
I don't get it why Xiaomi does not sell it separately.
But it won't matter when the 40W version arrives for the Mi 9 Pro.
mdy-10-el is finally available on AliExpress and price is great 8-12 eur
roofovec said:
mdy-10-el is finally available on AliExpress and price is great 8-12 eur
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Right, here's a link : https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4000288396055.html
Original charger in the box is quick charge 3.0. and it's 18w if i am not wrong.
Mi9 can be charged up to 27w with quick charge 4.0+.
Correct me if i ma wrong
4Freedom said:
Original charger in the box is quick charge 3.0. and it's 18w if i am not wrong.
Mi9 can be charged up to 27w with quick charge 4.0+.
Correct me if i ma wrong
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I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Xiaomi "Turbo Charge" 27W only works with the Xiaomi 27W adapter which is NOT QC4 (still QC3, with proprietary solution for 27W delivery)
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Nightflowers said:
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Xiaomi "Turbo Charge" 27W only works with the Xiaomi 27W adapter which is NOT QC4 (still QC3, with proprietary solution for 27W delivery)
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Turbo Charge 27W work also with Baseus Wall Charger http://https://sklep.telforceone.pl/en-gb/product/2223356/2237051/baseus-wall-charger-pps-qc-usb-pd-45w-white-with-display
or Baseus PPS car charger. Max power is 27W. When i use a original cable and conect to USB-A port in charger my phone display "Charge Turbo" so its QC 3.0 dual channel charging.
When i use USB-C to USB-C cable and PD socket (QC 4.0+) charging similar speed (usually 10V, 2,7A) phone display only fast charging. I test also POCOPHONE F1 and Charge Turbo displays only when i use PD socket.
Anyone know where I can get the UK variant from? I hate using those nasty adapter plugs...
Hi, it's me again. I found and bought MDY-10-EL 27W wall charger, from Aliexpress. The cable is thinner than the original one, but never mind. The charger shows charge turbo while charging and it's ok. But, I can't connect this charger with the original 20W wireless charger! I tried with the sellers cable and the original cable, nothing! When i put the Mi 9, even without transparent case, on the wireless charger, it can be seen nothing!? There is no signs of charging? Besides, with the other 27W fast charger US plug (MDY-10-EH), i have no problems. Wireless charging is working. What can i do with this charger MDY-10-EL, to make it working with 20W wireless charger?
Just one notice. The wireless 20W charger is functional with the original Mi 9 18W charger. The phone can be charged. It's not fast charging, but it's charging! On the contrary, the fast 27W charger is not working with the wireless charger!?