I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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marcmarshall said:
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
marcmarshall said:
This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
roaduardo said:
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
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Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.
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Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
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If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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I got my phone today, and one of the first things that I did was test all of the Chargers.
My first thought is that the one plus cable that I bought is very high quality. Every charger that I tested, it charge faster than the cheapo ones that I bought on Amazon.
However, what I've been consistently surprised with is that using the same cable this phone charges faster on a Qualcomm quick charge 2 charger than it does on a standard USB charger. I've tested this with all sorts of Chargers around my house and I'm consistently seeing around 1500 when connected to a quick charger, and only a thousand when connected to a standard charger.
The USB C charger that came with the phone is significantly faster. However I wanted to share this so that for those others who bought all sorts of Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 Chargers, don't throw them out. They're still better than a regular charger.
Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
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Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
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Care to share said cable and block?
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I am curious as to what "standard" chargers you are using. I have a wall charger rated at 5v 2.1a (non-QC) per port and a car charger rated at 5v 2.4a (non-QC) per port, and both of those charge at 1500ma. Is it possible that your "standard" chargers are only rated for 5v 1a output?
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Care to share said cable and block?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010SFDKC6
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00L2SBZ80
My man. Thank you.
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if possible, please post the charging rates and time taken for charging with:
a) bundled type c fast charger
b) qc 2.0 quickcharger
c) standard 5v/2a charger
thanks!!!
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Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Bought that one though still waiting on my phone. Like that it has micro USB too for other devices. Charges my HAM2 very fast.
Your results have nothing to do with them being QuickCharge bricks, I have a inline amp meter and I can get 1.5 on any brick with an amp rating high enough, not just my QC bricks that I was using with my Moto X. At least people will know if they have a QC brick they'll get at least that though.
I didn't know this thread existed. I'm getting what I think is pretty poor performance from the stock 6p charger. Please see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234521
Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
yasirrfc said:
Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
NLBeev said:
Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
yasirrfc said:
Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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...wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc.
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I prefer wireless charging for my N4 and N6.
I am using cheap QI-chargers on several places. The QI-pads can be used with almost any USB charger. Of course wireless charging is slow.
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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As long as it is Certified by qualcomm you should be fine.
Check this and if its mentioned there you can buy it:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
blanco2701 said:
Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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I recommend the aukey as well, I used it for my moto x 2nd gen and now my Nexus 6.
I got a Aukey one, and it's really great
In my experience and from others Anker makes good products might want to check into them. And a good charging cable is just as important.
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I have an Aukey and a Tronsmart. Both work well. Strangely enough, the quality of your USB cable also appears to play a legitimate role in whether Quick Charge2.0 is consistently recognized and used. In other words, high quality charger AND high quality cable is recommended!
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
iluvatrix said:
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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Not at all... the phone is made to be compatible with QC. You can even use the QC charger with a phone that doesn't support it, what will happen is that the charger won't activate the QC and just charge at normal speed.
NLBeev said:
Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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As long as it is Qualcomm 2.0 Certified it is supposed to work. Motorola's "turbo charge" is just a rebranded Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge.
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
chapelfreak said:
My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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Thanks for your reply then it must be the piece that I have used had some problem
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I use this one and it works perfectly for me. It has an LED that changes color depending on whether it is in normal charging or fast charging mode. Unfortunately, I don't think it is on your list.
Fred
I am getting a kind of a weird experience this end. I use my Huawei quick charger of the mate 8, and it is only recognized by the Motorola Nexus 6 as a fast charger after I reboot the mobile then it starts charging at 9.15 V and 1.36 Amps. it does fast charge at this volt and amps at highs of 2240 mAps on Ampere application !!
I could not figure out another way to get the charger to recognize the Nexus 6 as a fast charging phone except by rebooting, and still working on it. in the meantime I have ordered a Choetech QC 3.0 and waiting for arrival. my question does this happen on your chargers or does it connect directly to 9V when connected to chargers like Aukey, Tronsmart, Anker etc. ??
Guys, is it normal that the phone get heated like an iron box when charging ? ( Well I noted that this happens only if my battery is below 50-60% ) Using Stock charger. Same happens (heating, but temperature is lower than before) even when I use One+ charger.
Looking for some Dash Charger cables...I am wondering if anyone knows any that are a bit cheaper than OnePlus's site? hoping to find one that's a bit longer than 100cm. Maybe 6ft?
I ordered one in Aliexpress, if you ping me in a week or two I will be able to tell you whether it really supports DaSH
This one is good, but it's 1m length.
I've just receive this one, exactly the same as the official, haven't see any difference.
Voltage and Ampere values are fine too (tested with Ampere app).
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
debork said:
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Link isn't working. Please fix.
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Working fine here. Please use initiative.
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
Zenouzenou said:
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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Why would you think so? The original ones are made in China, so I really don't see a difference. It's a cable, not exactly rocket science. As long as the wires are thick enough. 4A will be fine. Even if you get a fake or badly made one, the phone will not be able to dash charge, or the wire will get pretty hot. All easily identifiable and then dispose of crappy wire or just use it for data only.
No point spending more. I've one on the way from China for under 5 Usd. That's a few tries before I get to the price level of the brand name makers.
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Zenouzenou said:
It seems dangerous to use non official cable don't you think ? If one day anker or any other well known brand made one i will go for it but i don't trust aliexpress
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It's true only if you buy poor quality
Ampere & voltage are ok so...
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Got this one at 1.5m:
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Hello,
no problems with this cable? Is it safe?
Does anyone know this cheap cable?
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/on...data-cable-1m-for-oneplus-3-sku10151025a.html
Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
Tribune9 said:
Go for amazonbasics type C cable from amazon !!
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These aren't Dash compatible though.
Not voltage compliant - 3rd party/China chargers
debork said:
Got this one at 1.5m: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...ast-Quick-charging-data-sync/32716728181.html
Been working fine for proper Dash Charge.
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Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
I've just received the charger and cables from the following link. Charger is oppo branded, but it works the same as a dash charger. Tested the cables with the original charger and the original cable with the oppo charger.
Seems anything that is oppo vooc is essentially the same as dash. So just need to get it through your usual Chinese reseller.
https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=536245344526&_ezgpid=20000004174482
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lordbear said:
Take a look at the last screenshot. Note the Voltage value - IN RED.
While most electronics have a fair amount of 'slack' around voltages, it's usually like 4.8 to 5.2. That 4.3V is too low. You might be getting a charge, but I'm skeptical it's all three; safe, durable and performs on par.
Jus' sayin'.
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I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
debork said:
I'm almost certain this is the battery voltage itself, i.e. what you'd get a read from /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now. This is not the same as charger/cable voltage.
At any rate, here are Ampere readouts with my official OP5 dash charger, which you can see has almost identical voltages:
w/ official OP5 cable: https://i.imgur.com/Neb9u0u.png
w/ Aliexpress 1.5m cable: https://i.imgur.com/nZbkUO4.png
I do notice that the 1.5m runs slightly lower on peak amperage, maxed out around 3.2A vs 3.4A within the 50-70% battery range I was watching it in just now.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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Interesting. Thanks for the SS. I certainly don't understand the 4.2V value. At 70% charged, I'd think it would be a bit higher. Perhaps in operation the VReg has to over-pull from the battery to step things up to nominal...
Musing: Does DASH include some kind of "smart charge" tech that uses the USB cable circuit to polls voltage at the charger, physically? Without that, then I surmise it's measuring the voltage it sees at the USB-->DC circuit IN the phone.
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AFAIK most smartphone lithium-ion batteries have a nominal voltage around 3.8V, charging voltage around 4.25V.
As far as DASH/VOOC charging, there definitely is some 'smart charge' stuff going on in the charger itself, which is why I'm not as worried about the cable being 3rd party, but would never think of getting a non-OPO DSH or non-OPPO VOOC charger. I couldn't speak to exactly what it does though.
Wait, now that I think of it there was some row from a Google dev a year ago or so about the proper resistor rating in 'safe' USB C cables...
Edit: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables ok this seems to say the danger with USBC cables is around having charging sources like laptops that can't deliver enough amperage. Which fortunately shouldn't be an issue then if you just use it with the DASH charger...
Got my DASH car charger including a cable and it works as intended with DASH mode. The cable alone also properly works with my 100% genuine wall charger.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAS...nal-1-DASH-Type-c-data-Cable/32822825492.html
Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi guys.
Hope your all well,
I have bought a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro wanted one as soon as they can out. I have put mine in a book type case I find it easier to handle, I HAVE A QUESTION. Will the phone charge through the case OR would I have to keep taking the phone out of the case. Any help would be great appreciated, thank you all for your help and time.
JLB333
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Wireless charging works through almost all cases so you should be fine.
Using my "Anker" wireless charger (here) and my "huawei smart view flip cover" (here) it charges no problem with case on. even with the case open flipped around to the back of the phone it still charges fine.
I guess it depends on how thick the case is or how good the charger is
Thank you
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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Yeah I only got a 10w charger as the original Huawei's charger last time I looked was 3x the price and wanted a desktop version rather then something flat. Wasn't too bothered about the time difference in charging as battery life are pretty awesome anyway! Maybe when the price comes down, then I'll get one. I do see the "green bubbling up" fancy animation, and charges up pretty quick. The Anker wireless charger I think is a good brand to some other cheapo Chinese brands.
As for the case, if its leather, I am assuming its pretty thick, but with my non scientific measurements, my charger handled at least 40 pages of glossy book/magazine paper that it can handle wireless charging! Not sure if further away from charger would make it less wattage getting through to the phone!
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does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
tweedie said:
does anyone know of an app to show me what wattage is coming through whilst charging? thanks
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It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
Grondah said:
It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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cheers. will try that out. its at 100% at the moment, so will give it a couple of hours to lose some charge!
Usually if I'm looking for something I Google it. Type exactly what your looking for, you can always add the best, guaranteed it usually throws something up.
Grondah said:
It's not amazingly accurate but you could use something like Ampere - it will give the current charging amps & voltage. Watts = amps x volts so you can get an approximation.
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well, not sure if I will be disappointed, but it came up at 820mA and I see 4.327V, so based on that calculation it came up as 3548. I doubt thats 35W, so I am gonna guess that is 3.5W? not sure where the advertised 10W charger comes in!
(based at currently already charged of 96% full)
JLB333 said:
Thank you tweedie for your reply, I see the charger is a 10w charger, you are the only person to come back with positive feed back, my case is similar idea as yours, if you look on eBay brown/tan for a Huawei mate 20 pro, I'm thinking a 10-15w charger would be better than a cheaper low wattage charger.
Thank you again
JLB333
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I won't bother replying in future then. I gave you all the positive feedback you needed but I guess you wanted more answers to your question than you asked.
You answered your own question about the wattage so did not require a response.
Peace out
Yeah, 3.5W (although Ampere don't claim to be amazingly accurate)
There can be all sorts of issues with adapter compatibility. Did it come with an adapter? If not, does the adapter you're using support qc3.0?
I've got a supposed 15W charger so will test it when I get home.
well, I don't think I can recommend Anker wireless charger (here) - suppose to be 10W, but after using that Ampere program, it tells me that at most with the original Huawei adapter (though with a good quality usbB cable as Anker wireless isn't usbc), I got 910mA x 3.93v = 3.5w (with or without case - no difference). Quite poor compared to charging via the original adapter and usbC cable which gave me 3450mA x 4.0518v = 13.9w. I didn't expect wireless charging to match the same power as via wired, but did not expect that big a difference.
Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
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Pretty sure you are calculating it wrong. Ampere shows current charging amps in mA and the voltage of the battery - this will go up with the percentage of the battery.
I don't think there is any app that shows what is the voltage of the charge, just amperage.
Saying that, I can see that my both wireless chargers charge with similar current averaging 800mAh and max is around 1mAh. At the moment I have one connected to qc 3.0 18w adapter.
Connecting phone to the same adapter using usb c cable gives me...similar values, surprisingly.
iPad chargers (10W/12W) are very similar to qc3.0 charger, and Anker 6 port charger (allegedly 5v/2.4a max per port) is probably the "fastest" of the lot.
Connecting phone to stock 40W charger with any usb c cable (tried few 'generic' 2m cables) give me results in around 4000 mA.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't understand if this means that both wireless chargers are charging at around 10w or the adapter (Anker single usb-a port) can't charge the phone with full speed.
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ah right, that kinda makes sense. I thought that Volt mentioned in the app Ampere was the Volt coming in as its charging and not realise that its actually the Volt of the remaining battery. Obviously, my calculation is completely wrong. thanks for pointing that out!
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Fafner76 said:
If you want 15W charging, I woudn't choose anything different than Huawei's original charger. Not 100% sure, but I think generic 15W Qi isn't supported, the phone seems to trigger a lower wattage. Huawei is quite vague on this, it just states "you can charge at 15W using our SuperCharge technology, but Qi is supported as well", but doesn't state wether you can expect full speed if you go the Qi way. I got 2 supposedly 15W generic chargers and they were MUCH slower than the Huawei's ones I got after (and the phone was getting hotter still).
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Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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may I ask where did you get the Huawei wireless Charger for £20?
JLB333 said:
Hi Fafner76.
Thank you so much for your advice regarding the Huawei Charger. I ordered a new one, got it for £20 which was a result as they at about £40. It arrived this morning, I placed my Huawei mate 20 pro with the case on it and hey presto it started charging straight away no prompting needed. So thank you again
JLB333
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Hi Fafner 76
I did the charge On the huawei wireless charger and it works perfect with the case on and it charges at roughly as quick, its a result