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So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
Audio quality seems fine to me. Rather average, but certainly not poor. I do hear some barely audible ticks through my headphones when nothing is playing, but haven't noticed them during playback. Some of the complaints about audio quality might be coming from those who dare to use the headphones supplied with the phone, as they are truly awful. The only real complaint I have is that button presses from my Sony headphones, which worked fine with my Titan, aren't recognized. Wonder if the music control / answer button works on any headphones other than the ones supplied.
Ricehead said:
So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
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Personally I would never use my phone for listening to music. The problem with each and (nearly) every one of them is the DAC, which is generally cheaper and less efficient compared to the one that comes with dedicated devices (just with some actually, the Cirrus DAC of the 4S/latest gen Apple devices is quite crap). Also, if you're an audiophile WP7 is probably the worse choice ever since the OS doesn't support FLAC. Honestly that's not a big deal to me because I still have to find a phone sounding as good as any device with a Wolfson DAC. To my knowledge there isn't a way to troubleshoot hardware, which is the main issue here. This coupled with the limits of the OS (limited audio format support) should really make you think about getting serious and grab some good music player, like Cowon ones, or even Sandisk or Creative ones if you wanna go cheaper. The only drawback is that once you've tried some real good audio hardware you'll never be able to go back to the crappy quality of a phone.
Anyway if you really want to use your phone for your music (which I don't recommend) then you should really consider getting an Android, the hardware might be more or less the same **** but at least you can play every format and you have some almost decent EQ solutions. Just my 2 cents...
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Personally I would never use my phone for listening to music. The problem with each and (nearly) every one of them is the DAC, which is generally cheaper and less efficient compared to the one that comes with dedicated devices (just with some actually, the Cirrus DAC of the 4S/latest gen Apple devices is quite crap). Also, if you're an audiophile WP7 is probably the worse choice ever since the OS doesn't support FLAC. Honestly that's not a big deal to me because I still have to find a phone sounding as good as any device with a Wolfson DAC. To my knowledge there isn't a way to troubleshoot hardware, which is the main issue here. This coupled with the limits of the OS (limited audio format support) should really make you think about getting serious and grab some good music player, like Cowon ones, or even Sandisk or Creative ones if you wanna go cheaper. The only drawback is that once you've tried some real good audio hardware you'll never be able to go back to the crappy quality of a phone.
Anyway if you really want to use your phone for your music (which I don't recommend) then you should really consider getting an Android, the hardware might be more or less the same **** but at least you can play every format and you have some almost decent EQ solutions. Just my 2 cents...
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Never knew about DAC's, Did a little research on the Lumia's DAC and found that
It might, but most decent mobile DAC internally don't process above 600kbps or so (at least the zune HD does around there), though a bad studio also might use audio sources not upto the quality.
But I think there is noticeable noise with decent cans, even on a good audio source, at least with my ATH-M50s in a quiet area. Audio set to 5/30. It's noticeable every once in a while. Just a little bit of hissing after a song ends, and a little pop before the hissing stops. I'm using CD lossless rips (Zune converted to 256/320k) of Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, and Eminem CDs, for reference. If it was something like a recent Metallica CD, I'd blame it on the studio for sure .
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I bolded the relevant bits, Even at 600Kbps the audio should be more than decent, As for the Zune thing to the people who are complaining of ****e audio quality with the Nokia Music app, Make sure you have a 320Kbps .mp3 and have a listen i'd like some feedback please.
Back on topic, I'm 15 and you know how it is money is tight, Do you know of any stylish, cheap and good sounding audio players, Small and discreet would be a bonus, Nothing smaller than 4GB or a Micros SD slot would be nice too. £40/$63 Is probably the most i can afford.
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Never knew about DAC's, Did a little research and found that
I bolded the relevant bits, Even at 600Kbps the audio should be more than decent, As for the Zune thing to the people who are complaining of ****e audio quality with the Nokia Music app, Make sure you have a 320Kbps .mp3 and have a listen i'd like some feedback please.
Back on topic, I'm 15 and you know how it is money is tight, Do you know of any stylish, cheap and good sounding audio players, Small and discreet would be a bonus, Nothing smaller than 4GB or a Micros SD slot would be nice too. £40/$63 Is probably the most i can afford.
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A year ago I wanted to purge myself of Apple, so I sold my iPod and picked up an inexpensive Sony Walkman E Series for $65USD. I'm quite impressed with its size and performance.
Also, I would check your Zune settings before syncing music. By default Zune will compress anything above 192kbps down to save space on your device. Most of my collection is 256kbps or 320kbps mp3s so I unchecked that option.
Honestly I have to admit I've never tried CD rips on a WP7 device so I cannot tell if it's good or bad. I'll try that as soon as i get the phone. Anyway some issues with non-dedicated devices are e.g. the fact that generally they have some noise in the output due to the fact that they have a radio unit and a noisy cpu. I had a GS2 a while ago and that was really painful. Looking at the review on gsmarena it seems like the lumia has some problems with stereo crosstalk and tends to cut-off bass frequencies, so that may actually be a concern for someone listening to your kind of music I guess...
If you want a good player, both decent looking and powerful you may have alook at the Creative Zen X-Fi Style. Other options may be the Sandisk Sansa Clip+, with the same sound quality and half the price, but that's definitely not so fancy looking. Cowon devices are very good too, but some of them, especially the lower end ones have a pretty gimmicky interface and they're not exactly "hair-thin" or cool to look at, despite packing the best output quality and EQ (hardware based); anyway they also cost a bit more (around 100€), so they may not be your cup of tea. I have the C2 right now, it's rather plain and the interface is super-gimmicky and unituitive, but the the sound quality is worth it for me. It also has a very long lasting battery (almost 50 hrs) and has a microsd slot which is a pretty cool feature IMHO.
Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
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Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
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People who prefer lossless audio codecs and use $100+ headphones (aka audiophiles) might have that opinion, but not the average person. I'm no audiophile, but I am definitely more picky than the average person about sound quality. I can greatly appreciate the difference between low end headphones (the ones included with most devices or any that can be purchased for less than $40 generally) and even a mid-range pair ($40-$100). I have no problem with the Lumia 800. Sound quality isn't as good as my old Galaxy S that had a Wolfson DAC, but it's still acceptable and allows me to enjoy my music on the go. I definitely have no reason to defend Nokia. I haven't owned one since the days of dumbphones, I own three other high end phones, and I didn't even pay for my Lumia 800 as it was a gift.
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So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
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The update for the audio and camera is coming soon by the way, no eta's so far.
sHaHiN786 said:
Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
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From what i can make out Nokia cant do anything to the firm/software to improve it, In my eyes they should make a revised version with as many bugs as possible fixed and offer a straight swap for your current Lumia.
gtg465x said:
Also, I would check your Zune settings before syncing music. By default Zune will compress anything above 192kbps down to save space on your device. Most of my collection is 256kbps or 320kbps mp3s so I unchecked that option.
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Noted, +1, Thank you
vnvman said:
Honestly I have to admit I've never tried CD rips on a WP7 device so I cannot tell if it's good or bad. I'll try that as soon as i get the phone. Anyway some issues with non-dedicated devices are e.g. the fact that generally they have some noise in the output due to the fact that they have a radio unit and a noisy cpu. I had a GS2 a while ago and that was really painful. Looking at the review on gsmarena it seems like the lumia has some problems with stereo crosstalk and tends to cut-off bass frequencies, so that may actually be a concern for someone listening to your kind of music I guess...
If you want a good player, both decent looking and powerful you may have alook at the Creative Zen X-Fi Style. Other options may be the Sandisk Sansa Clip+, with the same sound quality and half the price, but that's definitely not so fancy looking. Cowon devices are very good too, but some of them, especially the lower end ones have a pretty gimmicky interface and they're not exactly "hair-thin" or cool to look at, despite packing the best output quality and EQ (hardware based); anyway they also cost a bit more (around 100€), so they may not be your cup of tea. I have the C2 right now, it's rather plain and the interface is super-gimmicky and unituitive, but the the sound quality is worth it for me. It also has a very long lasting battery (almost 50 hrs) and has a microsd slot which is a pretty cool feature IMHO.
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Might get the Sansa has some good features and is super cheap, +1 for the input.
Lumia is lacking of bass, it's ok with monster purity, but with my Creative EP630 it's almost poor quality
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The update for the audio and camera is coming soon by the way, no eta's so far.
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Looking forward to it
gtg465x said:
People who prefer lossless audio codecs and use $100+ headphones (aka audiophiles) might have that opinion, but not the average person. I'm no audiophile, but I am definitely more picky than the average person about sound quality. I can greatly appreciate the difference between low end headphones (the ones included with most devices or any that can be purchased for less than $40 generally) and even a mid-range pair ($40-$100). I have no problem with the Lumia 800. Sound quality isn't as good as my old Galaxy S that had a Wolfson DAC, but it's still acceptable and allows me to enjoy my music on the go. I definitely have no reason to defend Nokia. I haven't owned one since the days of dumbphones, I own three other high end phones, and I didn't even pay for my Lumia 800 as it was a gift.
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
Ricehead said:
Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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It's my understanding (read it a while ago) that major Windows Phone software updates are supposed to be compatible two devices back.
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It's my understanding (read it a while ago) that major Windows Phone software updates are supposed to be compatible two devices back.
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Not so the HTC HD2 running 6.5 was not upgrade able to WP7, Attached is a screenshot of a question from the answers.microsoft site, No WP8 for WP7.5 makes me a sad bunny.
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Not so the HTC HD2 running 6.5 was not upgrade able to WP7, Attached is a screenshot of a question from the answers.microsoft site, No WP8 for WP7.5 makes me a sad bunny.
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I know it's semantical, but the HD2 is/was not Windows Phone. It's Windows Mobile... a completely different OS.
And... yes... the HD2 is fully capable of running Mango with ease. It's just cannot be officially updated to it.
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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I haven't received any firmware update, but I got the 8107 OS update the first time I plugged in my device so I never really used the phone on 7740 or whatever it was on previously.
I did try the headphones that came with the phone and audio quality with those was indeed awful, but that's something I expected and with my own headphones audio quality is fine (average for a modern smartphone).
Ricehead said:
Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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Yes, it will, it has been confirmed that our handset will, can't find the link for it.
The link to confirm the audio issue is being dealt with: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012...bout-lumia-800-battery-life-audio-and-camera/
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I know it's semantical, but the HD2 is/was not Windows Phone. It's Windows Mobile... a completely different OS.
And... yes... the HD2 is fully capable of running Mango with ease. It's just cannot be officially updated to it.
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So really im just a dumbass because i didnt even realise there was a difference and that the lumia will be more than likely be able to run Apollo
Hello
Just got few days ago HTC One X+. Wanted to buy Samsung Note 2 but after playing sometime I started to ask question.
Do I really need that fancy dildo with the phone?
Will I going to use it or will be just next thing on my list do I have it or I lost it?
Can I text using one hand on it?
Do I need to waste my time and do extra colours and other fany things?
Is it Touchwiz good looking and working as well as is good looking?
Is it really productivity that fancy staff?
Wanted to buy samsung because yes we all know why they say is good and has sd slot and battery.
Wolfosn Dac.
So after playing this and realised that keeps slowing down without reason I tried text it write email etc.
No I couldnt. My femal friend changed Note 1 as she said it huts when she is typing.
And then came +, before I said to myself that this te going t say no no to HTC and not going to buy next phone from them as yes we know why.
Battery and slot.
In my HTC Sensation XE I had Sandisk 64Gb 10 Class card and found that size is good for my needs.
Battery well this latter.
I can compare One X+ only with Sensation XE. Dont like apple and neurotics who "work" for apple. I mean people who buy theirs products.
They are not maybe bad but not fair to customers. Yes I work now for HTC helping them out in recesion and bought new flagship phone.
But dont work for them anymore not like iphone people they need to buy every content movies etc.
Ipad no usb??? MKV???
Why I bought I always try to keep my promises.
Yes I found 4.7ish is my sweet spot.
Played with Samsung and found it very very plasticky, colours not natural blueish.
Not familiar with icons and didnt like theirs design.
Well I read few reviews here and I am heavy user of phones must say my HTC One X+ is not even warm when working.
I dont play games on it, tried a few to see what is graphics in these days and how it copes. Very very good.
If I play I use big sofa, xbox, screen and amp with Vienna Accoustic speakers.
Can play Chess.
Phone is much faster than XE. So increases productivity. Without dildo. Lol
Screen is for my eyes amazing.
Finish perfect and rubber feel very nice.
Phone didnt slow down like Samsung after putting apps or 30Gb music ect.
Software is more polished then on Ice Cream Sandwich.
Black with red accents looks good with my V Moda M80 Blood Edition.
I didnt expect that sound will be better than on Sensation and must say.
Yes sound is better. Lets say 30% better.
Louder with clearer highs.
Bass definited with wide scale.
Low bass with authority.
Stereo and soundstage wider.
Someone said it good for hip hop or music with bass.
Well I tried U2 almost all discography and they have perfecto mixes with dance music or just guitar.
It sounded amazing.
All 320Kb.
But is not enough.
Played Flac
Rimsky-Korsakov - Scheherazade op 35 Deutsche Grammphon. Berliner Philharmoniker.
Needed to put it back and went to smoke cigarette as was going to me think that I have contact with the best portabe player in my life.
Speechless.
Played later David Bowie, Bjork, Dire Straits, Bryan Ferry etc.
All superb on level not met before.
Played with Beats Audio i know purists will say its a sin but I use it. I was purist and understand changing cd in player with gloves on.
Like dildo for Note 2. I played with power amp is great app but I found myself that it took me too long to set music plus set power amp.
And found myself changing ower amp instead of focus on music.
tested on IEM Ultimate Ears Triplefi 10
and V Moda M80 Blood Edition.
This is why mp3 its a devil. you have 20k songs and find yourself flicking them like channels on tv.
Big NO NO.
Still prefer play cd and still buy cds. Just for sake of focus on art. Play from first note tothe last. Life is crazy now.:victory:
Sorry for long text just for anyone battery lasts longer than HTC Sensation XE with Extended Anker battery.
And sound its just banan Chiquita.
:victory:
Just read this whole thing...I wasted two minutes of my life reading jibberish and had no idea what you were trying to get at...nice
omario8484 said:
Just read this whole thing...I wasted two minutes of my life reading jibberish and had no idea what you were trying to get at...nice
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Hahahah that made me laugh.
I wasted more than two minutes, but the jibberish amused me. And I never did figure out where he burnt his ear.
My favorite part was where "my femal friend switched note 1 huts when she type"
Good I wasn't the only one. And yes I was looking for the burnt ear thing too lol. Nice to know he likes the phone though.
Sent from my Inspire 4G
Can i get a TL: DR please? (i got as far as something about samsung and got bored)
thanks
If your note II slows down. Your using it wrong mine was lightening fast. Just biiiiiiig lol
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Where is the burnt ear?
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Lloir said:
Can i get a TL: DR please? (i got as far as something about samsung and got bored)
thanks
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HAHAHAHAHA right I thought the same thing
05GT said:
Where is the burnt ear?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
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I think he meant, read my post and your eyes will burn and your brain will fry in confusion, lol
deeznuts said:
I think he meant, read my post and your eyes will burn and your brain will fry in confusion, lol
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I think you nailed it!!! We are all just a little bit dumber from reading this.
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We are not really nit-picking on general section. But this thread really surpasses the "absolute useless nonsense"-barrier easily.
Please guys, keep at least the absolute minimum level of sense in your threads.
So my upgrade has come along and I'm debating on which phone I can get.
I'm currently leaning on the HTC DNA, obviously.
I am slightly dissapointed from lack of expandable storage, but I can live with 16GB, I don't watch movies much or listen to music.
I mostly stream movies or YT videos.
Gaming wise I'm mostly just emulating and I'm sure a simple game of pokemon will not heat up my device. I will play retro-styled games or remakes from time to time such as Sonic CD and Radiant HD.
As much as I love flashing ROM's on my thunderbolt, I think I'll stick to stock until a simple root method is out, and will most probably root for Titanium backup and adblocking, nothing more (However thanks to the new adblock app I can disable ad's without root, but it will drain the battery faster)
So my main questions are these:
For previous TB owners, how's life w/o the kickstand? Truth be told I will miss that kickstand, it was perfect.
I love elegant looking things, is the 1080p screen really worth having? And do you notice any sort of lag on the DNA doing simple things such as running a livewallpaper or watching a few youtube videos?
Is the batterylife good? Really anything that can outlast my TB is great, I can go through about 1/2 a day with the type of usage I use my TB for (of course taking into account I'm running liquidsmooth desense ICS4.0).
These are really all I have to ask, I'll likely get a screen protector; but as far as cases go I prefer to go without. So I will ask; how durable is the phone? How easy is it to scratch the screen? I've heard a few people saying the screen shattering after dropping it on a hard surface once, which scares me. I drop my TB A LOT. But it's only had one small scratch and no cracks whatsoever in the 2 years I've had it.
Also I have another question regarding if I should get this phone for my father as well.
He is the average android user, has never heard of ROOT and barely knows how to access his widgets. He currently has a TB aswell with an extended battery. He is constantly recieveing calls, texting, and checking his yahoo mail (He's the average busy, busy man).
I'm feeling the note 2 is better for him, since I'm going to take a guess and say 11GB of freespace isn't going to be enough for him. Plus I'd see how S-Pen would be useful for him (I'm not too much of a fan of the S-Pen, I like to use my phone onehandid a lot.
Had a TB. Missed my kickstand a bit when I went to the Razr. Got over it pretty quick. Get the DNA. you will love it. I still have yet to root and Rom. Will get there eventually. This phone makes the Bolt seem like a playskool toy. Lol...
I haven't looked back at the TB. The wireless charging I love. My TB usb connections were always loose causing charging issues. The smaller phone felt small in my hands. I'm 6,3 and the DNA is perfect size. I do miss the larger battery and kickstand however with the fast charge option with the current roms I get almost a half charge while at lunch. Which will last me till midnight with Heavy use! As for kickstand I remember some case out there has one built in.
There's just so much awesome with the DNA! 1080p ftw!
sent from my rooted DNA
Lol, yes.
Is a Lamborghini a worthy upgrade from a Civic?
S121Guy said:
I haven't looked back at the TB. The wireless charging I love. My TB usb connections were always loose causing charging issues. The smaller phone felt small in my hands. I'm 6,3 and the DNA is perfect size. I do miss the larger battery and kickstand however with the fast charge option with the current roms I get almost a half charge while at lunch. Which will last me till midnight with Heavy use! As for kickstand I remember some case out there has one built in.
There's just so much awesome with the DNA! 1080p ftw!
sent from my rooted DNA
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Thanks, been looking at a a few more reviews; seems like the phone for me.
Not sure about my dad though; I know the note 2 is out of the picture since it's a tad on the big side.
DNA is out as well since he wants to use his current micro SD card. Look's like I'll have to get him an s3, still a pretty decent device.
making a choice in 2 weeks
So wife gave me clearance to drop the TB. Looking at the DNA and 8X. I told her I swear I will not root (the stipulation with upgrade). I never could get the phone to work as good as new with a root, and really, I don't run much rooted stuff.
I just installed TwistedUmbrella's ICS ROM and enjoy it. I never liked either Sense or Stock Android, always ran with either GoLauncher, or now my daily is SSLauncher.
I have already seen all the vids on performance and appearance and what not. Personal opinion on rooting. Why root when the custom rom isn't going to be an major upgrade (see TB!) from what its running now? Other than removing the Verizon bloatware, and side installing apps like Tethers or 'black market' apps, I can just run SSL and call it good, right?
I am not a 'power user', mostly music for it. Occasional facebook, and XDA. So what limits does the no-sd option leave me? How many songs am I looking at before I am screwed and have to pay for some cloud service?
Thanks guys, everyone on this site has been a major help in everything I have done with the TB to make it last this long!
interesting
Yes.
Get the DNA, you wont regret it
if you DONT get the DNA, you WILL regret it. forever.
rajuabju said:
Yes.
Get the DNA, you wont regret it
if you DONT get the DNA, you WILL regret it. forever.
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I know its a positive upgrade, just curious about running the alternate launcher if that will suffice for customizing, and the amount of music on the 16G card.
My music is scattered about 5 folders and there is a ton of apks, zips, ROMs and backups, so figuring out my actual music quantity for comparison is a little daunting. Call me lazy, hoping you guys can give me an idea on that amount of space.
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I know its a positive upgrade, just curious about running the alternate launcher if that will suffice for customizing, and the amount of music on the 16G card.
My music is scattered about 5 folders and there is a ton of apks, zips, ROMs and backups, so figuring out my actual music quantity for comparison is a little daunting. Call me lazy, hoping you guys can give me an idea on that amount of space.
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I run Apex without issue. I need the customization. After Android and bloatware you get about 11gig on your phone. How much your music will fill up depends on the size of each music file. I use a bunch of FLAC files so I only have a few albums on there and still have 6 gig left to play with. Just means you have to swap out your music more often. Still love the phone despite the small space.
Memnoch73 said:
I run Apex without issue. I need the customization. After Android and bloatware you get about 11gig on your phone. How much your music will fill up depends on the size of each music file. I use a bunch of FLAC files so I only have a few albums on there and still have 6 gig left to play with. Just means you have to swap out your music more often. Still love the phone despite the small space.
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Thanks Memnoch!
Keep em coming folks. Looking for more opinions!
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Is a Lamborghini a worthy upgrade from a Civic?
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Loving that statement haha!
I came from the Droid Charge (the crappy Samsung alternative to the TBolt), and I'll tell you I love this thing to death. I thought Super AMOLED plus was as good as it could get but boy does this screen prove me wrong. 16GB isn't a problem for me. The Charge came with 32GB but it was on a card, a slow one, so I never filled it up because it slowed the phone down so much. Having this 16GB full I saw no difference in the speed of the phone. I like Sense better than TouchWiz, but I'm sure a launcher would kill most of it if that's what you want.
As far as music goes, I was a little bummed that it isn't compatible with DoubleTwist at the moment because there's no mass storage connection option, so all my iTunes music won't play on it (it's all AIFF). On the upside, with the beats audio the music I've taken the time to load onto google music streams great, sounds almost as good as my ipod in my car (which plugs in USB) through the aux jack. And I'm an audio nerd, so I was impressed with that.
I would say take the plunge, you won't be disappointed.
Yes the DNA is worth it
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Yeah, seriously man, it's a HUGE upgrade.
Looking at the two side by side, my TB just seems kind of... dumpy. If you're into elegance you'll wonder how you stuck with the TB this long. And when you're actually using it -- no comparison. I was running Liquid's ICS ROM as well and while it did the job, it's still kinda clunky (especially the recent apps). Whereas the DNA just flies. And the screen is ridiculous.
You'll probably get over the kickstand (I didn't use mine too much but thought it was a cool feature), and sure, the storage is definitely a trade-off. And I preferred AOSP on my Bolt, but I'm honestly dealing with Sense just fine. Root and ROM and few tweaks and it's more than usable. I always liked Sense's cameras and the text selection zoom thing they have going on. The messaging app is pretty nice, too.
I can't comment on its finish's durability. I keep my phones naked but don't tend to drop or abuse them much. But with Gorilla Glass 2 and the matte back, I think you'll be fine. Battery is also okay. It should get you through a full day, but it's nothing to write home about.
Anyway, yeah, you should probably get it.
Thanks guys, appreciate all the opinions. Maybe it's time to 'cloud up' and start using those services.
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The Thunderbolt was a hell of a device in its time, but the DNA blows it away. The DNA is definitely much smoother. Specifically noting the screen transitions, i have seldom seen it lagging or jittery. Tho by the end of its life my thunderbolt had seen more roms than a Nintendo emulator. So i guess my experience with the thunderbolt "stock" isn't great. The playstation emulator seems to run flawlessly on the dna, as well I've had good experiences video streaming which always seemed to be a problem on the TB (never could get the youtube app to work right). I've had good experience with google play music handling my music and just putting a select playlist on my phones memory. The audio quality just playing though an auxiliary port in my car is much better than the thunderbolt. The battery lasts longer as well. You wont go all day with heavy use but it is definitely better than the thunderbolt. I do miss the kickstand tho.
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The Thunderbolt was a hell of a device in its time, but the DNA blows it away. The DNA is definitely much smoother. Specifically noting the screen transitions, i have seldom seen it lagging or jittery. Tho by the end of its life my thunderbolt had seen more roms than a Nintendo emulator. So i guess my experience with the thunderbolt "stock" isn't great. The playstation emulator seems to run flawlessly on the dna, as well I've had good experiences video streaming which always seemed to be a problem on the TB (never could get the youtube app to work right). I've had good experience with google play music handling my music and just putting a select playlist on my phones memory. The audio quality just playing though an auxiliary port in my car is much better than the thunderbolt. The battery lasts longer as well. You wont go all day with heavy use but it is definitely better than the thunderbolt. I do miss the kickstand tho.
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Thanks! And I never really got into the kickstand. The only time I would use the kickstand is when I plugged in to watch something, which meant I couldn't do both, or when I was listening to music to stand it up while plugged in. But usually lay down for that since its a ***** to do screen actions without the phone moving.
Seems my only concern now is storage, I will have to see just how much my music takes.
I'm a bit excited, I see adrynalyn lurking around these parts. I recognize him from my time with the thunderbolt.
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I'm a bit excited, I see adrynalyn lurking around these parts. I recognize him from my time with the thunderbolt.
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No! I promised no rooting! He is not allowed!
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Lost my Samsung Captivate at home a few hours ago... (Either I just temporarily misplaced it or my crackhead Sister stole it). Had no service, but was using it as a glorified MP3 Player as my work place tells us not to use phones on the production floor. (Stupid work place, I know) Anyway, wondering if there were a better phone out there for cheap? $75-100 range, maybe more. Currently just searching ebay prices...and stumbled on Bad ESNs. Sounds like a good deal to me probably should get something newer, better, and faster any way. Cappy wasn't bad it just kept dying randomly, mostly when it went to sleep mode. Sometimes I could just hold the power and it'd reboot, other times I had to do a battery pull first.
List of things I'm sort of looking for...
Android (Going to Root and flash ROMs, seems faster, was using Captivating M3 on my Cappy... any device with good android development support, speed, stability and reliablilty)
WiFi (No network needed OR WANTED, so even bad ESN seems like a good choice, unless there's something else I should know about phones with bad ESNs, I'm not looking to activate this ever)
Bluetooth (So I can use wireless headset, always seem to have my wired earphone tangled and pulled off my ears at work)
16GB storage (Maybe a bit overkill though since I only have around 670 mp3s and 20-something videos, but I 'm thinking I won't get a MicroSD card.)
Video (I download mostly 720p videos so something capable of playing 720p video easily)
Searching 'Bad ESN' on eBay's currently showing Samsung Galaxy S 2s &3s, HTC One X, HTC Evo, Nexus S so scoping those out.
Any suggestions, comments, concerns about what-to-stay-away-from, or look-out-for would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just to tell me I should just buy a bluetooth/wifi/video/mp3 player instead. I've had mp3, video/mp3 players years before but they just don't seem to last very long. Never had wifi/bluetooth video/mp3 players though. Also are there any roms made for devices with phone/text support removed or ways to do it?
Thanks.
EDIT: Did some more reading and seen some things about needing to bypassing activation (some devices more persistent than others, any details about this would be nice too, like ease of bypassing since I'd like it to boot up as normal and not have to wait and go through activation everytime, I won't have to do that will I? Just once and I'm good?) I'm trying to read as much as I can but it's a broad net I'm casting and any help/comments/suggestions would be great. Thanks again.
Hey guys!
I've just invested in some decent Sennheiser earphones (never use stock ones!) and I'm now looking for a music app to match! I've found the stock music player lacks the dynamic range for the different types of music I listen to. My main genres are progressive rock, rock, techno/house and occasional classical. I've dabbled with the trial of Power Amp and was quite impressed, but wanted to know what other people have tried and gone with before I part with my meagre amount of money! Audiophiles, lend me your ears!!!
What are your recommendations/thoughts?
Cheers guys.
Probably already done it but don't forget to set up the adaptive sounds settings
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Probably already done it but don't forget to set up the adaptive sounds settings
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I'm guessing this only works with the stock player, or is it part of the system output and would also work with third party apps?
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On mine it's in settings, sounds and noticifications, sound quality and effects,
In here is adapt sound and other sound options they make my cheap blue tooth set sounds a little richer
And the adapt sound helps with my right ear hearing better than my left
imho poweramp is one of the best, has many frequency control, effects and a lot of theme like this:
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adaptive sound is really bad..go with viper4Android this is the best and could be used with all players..BTW I'm still stick to my old in ear beats headphones ..they were included in the HTC sensation XL times..
I use Neutron and it is great.
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adaptive sound is really bad..go with viper4Android this is the best and could be used with all players..BTW I'm still stick to my old in ear beats headphones ..they were included in the HTC sensation XL times..
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Not looking to root I'm afraid. While I've rooted my last few devices, I use my GS6E for NFC payments and rooting would cause this to stop working. Also my 1 year old boy keeps me too busy these days!
I did have some UrBeats earphones with my One X a few years ago before I sold them, and after recent reports that they are nothing more than a brand name behind cheap Chinese made earphones, I'd rather steer clear of them. Quite happy with my Sennheisers!
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Not looking to root I'm afraid. While I've rooted my last few devices, I use my GS6E for NFC payments and rooting would cause this to stop working. Also my 1 year old boy keeps me too busy these days!
I did have some UrBeats earphones with my One X a few years ago before I sold them, and after recent reports that they are nothing more than a brand name behind cheap Chinese made earphones, I'd rather steer clear of them. Quite happy with my Sennheisers!
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yeah..from me it's the opposite..the Sennheisers we're not have a good sound..and no there are zero payment things.. I mean I can not see any store where I can pay with NFC in Germany....
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yeah..from me it's the opposite..the Sennheisers we're not have a good sound..and no there are zero payment things.. I mean I can not see any store where I can pay with NFC in Germany....
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I think that if it wasn't for the NFC payments and that I've only got the phone for another 11 months, I'd probably consider rooting. As for the headphones, perhaps you ended up with some fakes? Plenty of them out there which is a shame.
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yeah..from me it's the opposite..the Sennheisers we're not have a good sound..and no there are zero payment things.. I mean I can not see any store where I can pay with NFC in Germany....
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In Poland everywhere where they have PayPass I can pay with NFC, the same thing.
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I think that if it wasn't for the NFC payments and that I've only got the phone for another 11 months, I'd probably consider rooting. As for the headphones, perhaps you ended up with some fakes? Plenty of them out there which is a shame.
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As for headphones and liking the sound or not, it depends on our music tastes and sound tastes greatly. Not all good headphones will be suitable for everyone.
I can recommend brainwavz and Soundmagic on my side. I have been using Brainwavz M3 with my S6 Edge and they sound great using Neutron. For desktop I have Soundpagic HP100 and they are great as well. Chinese, but if you read reviews on sites like Head-Fi.org, you will be surprised how good these are. I also have had Sennheiser MX980 for a few years and they sound nice.
The earphones I ended up getting are the Sennheiser CX 300-II. I know there are better ones out there for more money but considering I came from Logitech UE 200 they are a vast improvement, even on my laptop!
Just want to thank everyone for the replies. I'll probably end up going with Poweramp as I do like the features it offers and the different formats it plays. Quite a bit of my collection is in flac and although the stock player supports the format, the dynamic range of Poweramp is, imo greater.
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The earphones I ended up getting are the Sennheiser CX 300-II. I know there are better ones out there for more money but considering I came from Logitech UE 200 they are a vast improvement, even on my laptop!
Just want to thank everyone for the replies. I'll probably end up going with Poweramp as I do like the features it offers and the different formats it plays. Quite a bit of my collection is in flac and although the stock player supports the format, the dynamic range of Poweramp is, imo greater.
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Maven player? Jet audio? These 2 served me pretty good.
Viper audio if you're rooted. Not a player but a great way to control the sound