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Hello, i currently have a Iphone 4s and it is perfect for what i want to use it for. but im getting a bit sick of having to wait for jailbreaks and tweaks. The galaxy s 2 has loads of tweaks and stuff by the looks of it.
i basically want to be able to copy onto the memory card blu-ray rips without having to convert them to any other format.
i also like games and wondered if the galaxy s 2 is as good at playing games as the iphone 4s?
i also really like some of the custom rom's that you guys have made! they look fantastic.
i have some experience with custom roms as i always had XDA phones and HTC too and enjoyed trying out all the new rom's.
whats the battery life like on the galaxy s 2 and which rom would be best for battery and playing bluray rips?
i also want to make themes and easily install them, is this possible?
Thanks guys and keep up the good work!!
Kev.
You're on an android sgsII forum. So the answer is YES.
Dump the iphone and set yourself free!
NO.
I beg to differ
After a colleague saw and played with my SGS2 he bought one and sold his Iphone 4 and is happy. He's a gamer and I haven't heard any complaints from him.
I get more than a day on a charge on the stock battery, as long as a phone gets a complete day I'm happy as it goes on the dock when I go to bed anyways.
Iunno, if its just video watching, then sure, but we have a 2gb video limit plus the iphone has a larger video battery life. If it's gaming then stick with your iphone. Everything else in functionality is more or less the same.
Now imagine you jailbreak to get free apps. The sgs 2 rooting it or otherwise does not mean you get free apps. You have to look elsewhere.
Personally dont waste your money on an sgs 2 when you have an iphone 4s. Im not saying either is better or worse but better you wait for a real improvement like sgs 3 or iphone 5.
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As Kaili mentioned above, it is not worth to change and you can tetheted jailbreak atm so why dont you try?
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I say yes, because i had the iphone 4 and it was a awesome but when i saw my brother with the sgs2, and i tested it out on games and videos the graphics were so amazing i was speechless of the quality and the big 4.3inch screen, the speed is sweet too, but tweaking makes it more fun and it's a lot easier to change roms or anything else if you don't like the same stuff that you use every day please go for the sgs2.
Iphone is really very boring believe me after you use the SGS2.
I've had both, best has gotta be the SGS2 hands down.
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KevandLynds said:
Hello, i currently have a Iphone 4s and it is perfect for what i want to use it for. but im getting a bit sick of having to wait for jailbreaks and tweaks. The galaxy s 2 has loads of tweaks and stuff by the looks of it.
i basically want to be able to copy onto the memory card blu-ray rips without having to convert them to any other format.
i also like games and wondered if the galaxy s 2 is as good at playing games as the iphone 4s?
i also really like some of the custom rom's that you guys have made! they look fantastic.
i have some experience with custom roms as i always had XDA phones and HTC too and enjoyed trying out all the new rom's.
whats the battery life like on the galaxy s 2 and which rom would be best for battery and playing bluray rips?
i also want to make themes and easily install them, is this possible?
Thanks guys and keep up the good work!!
Kev.
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Well the battery life on the stock ROM is not so bad, I always get through the day as a heavy user.
For me it's acceptable if it can work until i get to bed. On custom ROMs however you probably get a lot better battery life.
I don't know much about making themes, but I know you can install them in matter of seconds.
Galaxy S2 is really a great phone, you won't be sorry.
PS. the gaming on iPhone4S may still be better than on GalaxyS2 even if the SGS2 is a more powerful device.
The reason for that is the devs are making games that are compatible for much more devices with different hardware.
But the future of gaming looks bright , just check out Shadowgun and RiptideGP , they look aWESome! Good luck
hi guys,
Thanks for the reply.
im not that interested in free apps its more tweaks to get the phone how i want it to look and feel.
@ kailkti " if its just video watching, then sure, but we have a 2gb video limit "
most of my blu-ray rips are more than 2GB so could i not play these on the sgs2?
if i was going to change id be getting a 32 or 64GB memory card.
thanks for replying.
Kev.
It depends on what you are expecting from a phone.
If you want a magnum that a bullet in it, yes SGS2 is the right choice.
If you want a giggling phone that you can show off with it, stay with iphone.
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Iunno, if its just video watching, then sure, but we have a 2gb video limit plus the iphone has a larger video battery life. If it's gaming then stick with your iphone. Everything else in functionality is more or less the same.
Now imagine you jailbreak to get free apps. The sgs 2 rooting it or otherwise does not mean you get free apps. You have to look elsewhere.
Personally dont waste your money on an sgs 2 when you have an iphone 4s. Im not saying either is better or worse but better you wait for a real improvement like sgs 3 or iphone 5.
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Totally this.
Galaxy S II forever!!! or untill Galaxy S III !
No seriously, if you've got the cash go for it... but that's not to say the iPhone's bad, it just doesn't give you the freedom of an S2, or any android device for that matter. But if you decide to hold on to your benjamins and wait for the next king of the hill, the I'd say that's a smart choice too. One bad thing about the SGS2 concerning gaming is that some of the best games are Tegra 2 only, and while the Exynos chip inside the phone is definitely powerful enough, it's still not gonna run those games. You can go through chainfire3d to play those games but it's just something you'd need to know, oh and some of the games that use to be Tegra 2 only have been officially given Exynos support, like Shadowgun... So maybe its better to wait untill the games get ported, then when the SGS3 comes out with it's mindblowing specs, it'll already support the best games... If I were you, stick with the iPhone 4S untill a worthy successor to the SGS2 comes out...
See if you can find some place to try it. Then try it, but make sure you try all the things you use the most. Android is a VERY different experience from iOS. I came from an iPhone myself and the first thing I noticed was that the UI isn't quite as smooth as it is on the iPhone. However it is not bad and all the customizations you can do, more than make up for it. Especially the keyboards. But as I said, it's a different experience and it's going to take some time to get used to it.
Another thing, you might want to think about is the release cycle. The SGS 2 is growing a beard, having been out for more than 6 months now in some parts of the world. I got mine in may. I still love it. It's by far the most awesome gadget I have owned, but at this time I would wait for the SGS 3. If you live in the US, you might have to wait a long time though.
KevandLynds said:
hi guys,
Thanks for the reply.
im not that interested in free apps its more tweaks to get the phone how i want it to look and feel.
@ kailkti " if its just video watching, then sure, but we have a 2gb video limit "
most of my blu-ray rips are more than 2GB so could i not play these on the sgs2?
if i was going to change id be getting a 32 or 64GB memory card.
thanks for replying.
Kev.
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Well since you own an iPhone4Steve and you are considering getting a GalaxyS2 with a 32GB microSD i'd go and say you can spare the cash.
So get them both. Both are really amazing devices , whatever someone else might say. You can never have enough gadgets.
Also you might consider getting a GalaxyNote if you are after movies. The screen is just amazing!
Doooooo it. Sgs2 ftw
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I guess it depends on what you want in a phone. I believe the iPhone is behind in today's technology.
Technology, especially in phones, moves fast. Apple doesn't keep up with the times very well. They release a new phone once a year, with old specs and outdated software / aesthetics.
I love the SGSII. The UK version, because it has a physical button and its white version is beautiful.
It has higher specs and a nicer screen (bigger and brighter) than the iPhone.
But there are better phones to consider upgrading to from it. For example, the HTC Rezound is a beast. Offering true HD display (higher Res and ppi than the iPhone) with a super fast processor and all the up to date things technology today has to offer.
Another reason to switch to Android, not just the SGS, but Android in general; is the complete openness and customizability (word?) It has.
Even if you root an iPhone, you're still limited to what you can do.
Each OS has its pros and cons, but Android has many more pros.
-my two cents-
KevandLynds said:
hi guys,
Thanks for the reply.
im not that interested in free apps its more tweaks to get the phone how i want it to look and feel.
@ kailkti " if its just video watching, then sure, but we have a 2gb video limit "
most of my blu-ray rips are more than 2GB so could i not play these on the sgs2?
if i was going to change id be getting a 32 or 64GB memory card.
thanks for replying.
Kev.
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Well since no one has answered his question.
What I mean by 2gb is that because of the file system (dun ask me, i'm not sure on the specifics), android will only play files under 2gb. So any file over 2gb will not play, regardless of your sd card.
I've got both but the S2 is my main phone. The iPhone is just boring as even though it has every app ill ever need. Can't stand the small screen and old style look.
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The answer is definitely YES, man!
So is this player worth getting? I had Zune HD a while back but didn't use it a whole lot. I don't like using my Incredible as an mp3 player and I currently have a sansa clip+.
Is there something that stands this out over other mp3 players?
things I'm looking for:
Sound quality
ease of use (syncing, organizing, etc.)
battery life (my clip+ get 6-8 hours, I want 12+)
durability (i am butter fingered)
bukithd said:
So is this player worth getting? I had Zune HD a while back but didn't use it a whole lot. I don't like using my Incredible as an mp3 player and I currently have a sansa clip+.
Is there something that stands this out over other mp3 players?
things I'm looking for:
Sound quality
ease of use (syncing, organizing, etc.)
battery life (my clip+ get 6-8 hours, I want 12+)
durability (i am butter fingered)
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Well... since you seem to be familiar with Android devices already, I am not sure what else you are looking for. If you need just a music player, stick to what you have.
The Galaxy player 4.0 is a brilliant sounding player with Voodoo Sound installed which takes advantage of the Wolfson DAC which is regarded as one of the best audiophile sound chips. The sound quality is brilliant with wide soundstage, rich punchy bass and good mids and highs. The sound quality is up there with my Sony X1060 and Cowon J3.
Just got the 5.0 today will test out tonight! Hello everyone not new to xda just this section glad i cld join yall and help as much as pos
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For me - the 5.0 has a bigger screen than my GSII, but it's not as large as my Tab.
I actually find myself using it far more than expected - it's in a kind of perfect size range. However I almost never actually use it for media playback!
If I owned a Galaxy Note it would probably be pointless - but it's pretty well suited in the size gap between the DInc and Transformer the OP owns.
Well what it seems is that I might just upgrade my clip+ to the clip zip.
I love android but i think having three devices is a bit much. Granted the audiophile bit a few posts intrigues me.
I guess this is better for people without tablets/phone who still want andy in their pocket. A good phone upgrade is what I really need.
Why is the audio chipset diff in the 4.0 and the 5.0? Anyone know, seems kinda crazy to me.
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Definitely
Worth getting? Definitely. I've had iPod touch 4G and Galaxy Player YP GB70 and I'm just selling the iPod. The Samsung is way more practical in daily use. There are two GB70 versions here in Korea, white with TFT display and black with something that seems to be OLED. I like the white one more (have both currently ;-). Also in March there would be new version of Galaxy Player 70 introduced, maybe wait for that one and order directly from Korea..
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Why is the audio chipset diff in the 4.0 and the 5.0? Anyone know, seems kinda crazy to me.
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Oh yeah, forgot that difference... The MC1N2 in the 5.0 is a bit of a disappointment.
hi all,
just wondering what you guys make of your xperia s's?
i've had an htc wildfire s for around 8-9 months now i guess and i absolutely hate it.
it;'s slow, it has no memory, crashes all the time and is generally a terrible piece of technology.
thinking of getting myself an xperia s because i can't really justify spending £500 on an iphone ha ha.
how do you guys find your phone in terms of reliability/stability? how's the battery life?
are there any drawbacks or issues you have noticed? what other benefits does it offer other than being a hell of a lot faster and prettier than my htc?
i've read something about it having psn store? how does that work?
sorry for the total lack of orgranisation in this post, i'm just eager to learn
phone is wonderfull, i would never change it.
But i give it 8 of 10, cuz had problem with yellow tint on display, and some others...
battery life is quitly good.
Battery life is not so good, how long should I charge the phone?
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Very nice, good battery life if you don't overload it, the software is really good.
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cool, thanks for the input guys.
yellow tint though? maybe a faulty unit? or is this a common issue?
i'm thinking of going for this over the iphone now because it has
-twice the battery
-twice the processing speed
-twice the storage
-12mp camera
-psn store
-around 2/3 the cost (have seen in online for £360, vs apple's £500).
just not sure because i really like the iOS5 and the general smoothness of the iPhones....but this xperia does seem to blow it out of the water on every level ha ha.
Reserved for tonight
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The delay of ICS has seen me lusting after the One X and, more recently, the S III BUT they are considerably more expensive and actually similar in spec anyway.
I think once ICS arrives, I'll fall back in love with this. The screen blows everything (those two included) away!
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cool, thanks for the input guys.
yellow tint though? maybe a faulty unit? or is this a common issue?
i'm thinking of going for this over the iphone now because it has
-twice the battery
-twice the processing speed
-twice the storage
-12mp camera
-psn store
-around 2/3 the cost (have seen in online for £360, vs apple's £500).
just not sure because i really like the iOS5 and the general smoothness of the iPhones....but this xperia does seem to blow it out of the water on every level ha ha.
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The most recent devices haven't got this issue anymore, but you don't have much control over how new a device you'll receive and there are reports of it disappearing over time anyway.
I ordered mine from 3 (UK) the same night my girlfriend ordered hers directly from Sony, and I got a newer model which doesn't show any sign of a tint (w19) compared to hers (w13), and I had .73 firmware compared to her .67.
Having said that, she's not a gamer or anything and just uses the phone for calls, texts, facebook etc and hasn't noticed any tint either (often contributed to high phone temperatures). I think by the sounds of it, and there's no offense intended here, but coming from a Wildfire, I wouldn't expect you to be a massively heavy user and an Xperia S would be fine for you.
The screen is absolutely fantastic and is easily comparable to, if not better than the iPhone retina. I don't think you'll regret getting one in the slightest.
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
one thing i did notice was the lack of the psn store on the display model....it had the playstation app where you can view playstation news and blogs etc, but the store didn't seem to be there....
this was one of the main reasons i was thinking of going for this phone specifically....is there any reason why it was missing? is it because i'm in the uk? :S
hopefully it's just soemthing that comes with an update or something?
Gloris said:
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
one thing i did notice was the lack of the psn store on the display model....it had the playstation app where you can view playstation news and blogs etc, but the store didn't seem to be there....
this was one of the main reasons i was thinking of going for this phone specifically....is there any reason why it was missing? is it because i'm in the uk? :S
hopefully it's just soemthing that comes with an update or something?
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The PSN store is quite useless really. Any decent emulator blows it out of the water.
yeah, but i don't plan on rooting or any of that jazz with this phone :s
and i have a fair ammount of psone games already on my psn account
am i right in thinking it is definitely available in the uk though? just wondering why it wasn't there on the display model in store :s
Gloris said:
yeah, but i don't plan on rooting or any of that jazz with this phone :s
and i have a fair ammount of psone games already on my psn account
am i right in thinking it is definitely available in the uk though? just wondering why it wasn't there on the display model in store :s
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PS1 games you bought for the PS3 won't be playable on the phone.
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K900 said:
PS1 games you bought for the PS3 won't be playable on the phone.
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:O???
then what's the point of linking your psn account? lol
hmmm
Gloris said:
:O???
then what's the point of linking your psn account? lol
hmmm
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For now, you can buy other games. I think they're working on that, just not quite there yet.
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ah, cool. long as they are doing something about it :s it's one of the major selling points in my view :s
i mean £3.99 isn't exactly a bad price for some classic games, but i don't see the point in buying them again if i've already bought them on the ps store before :s ha ha.
i might just go ahead and order this tomorrow (my sisters friend is selling her iphone 4 [not 4s] so i'm borrowing it for tonight to see what i think....but i'm more likely to go for the xperia s i think.....it's just an amazing looking phone
Gloris said:
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
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When I went into o2 at Westfield Statford to test the Xperia S I was a little bit bummed by the overall smoothness of it due to some minor lag etc but when I checked it's running time it had been on for over 500 hours (3 weeks) and of course every tom **** and harry been experimenting on it.
When I got my own XS the experience was 10x better so if you liked the display model you should like it even more when you own one
yeah i'm going to order this tomorrow, if i get it form argos i get 7 months to pay it off (and if i use my dad's discount it puts it down to £360, same as play.com and amazon).
i've just read also that these phones come pre-fitted with a screen protector
is this correct (especially for uk peeps)?
if so, that's genius, because applying those things are near to impossible without getting bubbles etc.
does anyone use another screen protector on top? or is it best to use the pre-fitted one until it gets scratched/damaged.
i was going to go carphone warehouse and get their pro-fitting/lifetime warrenty, but if it comes pre-fitted i needn't bother until it gets damaged?
yes, it indeed comes prefitted with a screen protector so just use it as is, it's great
(and they also included an extra one in the box too!!)
battery life is pretty good, and should be better once Ice Cream Sandwich releases (soon), so the only thing i've done is switch auto-sync off, mobile network as 2G and screen brightness to about one-third
the (built in) Power Saver app, timed saver modes also help (I set it to switch wi-fi, 3g, bluetooth, nfc, screen brightness etc to off or low between 1am and 7am for example)
as for PlayStation certification:
you get a link 'Let's start PS Store' to instructions
where you can download PS Store
so I don't know whether it connects with PlayStation Network PSN ID (haven't tried yet!!)
but the forthcoming PlayStation Mobile might be what PlayStation certified devices have access to
I've used Xperia S for about one month.
I feel Xperia S with DooMKernel & Xperia SSpeed ROM is SO GOOD!!!!!
I can use Xperia S all day long without charging.
Hi Gloris,
Forget about PSN and go ahead and buy this phone, for me it's the best smartphone ever exists since now, and it will be better after some weeks with android ICS ; I was using the iphone's model since many years, after buying the 4s, I was very disappointed! it's a jock, it's maybe useful for the paraplegic persons, but how really needs to speak to his phone! which asks you to repeat many times .... well, I sold my Iphone 4s after 2 weeks of use, and I bought an HTC sensation XE and I updated to ICS 4.0.3, I was very impressed by this OS, it's excellent, no more syc with itunes, you have just to copy and paste what you need in your phone via USB cable, (music, pics, files, apps, games ...), but I was still disappointed about the hardware of this HTC, so I bought my xperia S since one month, version 67 with no yellow screen issue, and now I'm really satisfied and it will be better after the release of ISC .... the camera is just wonderful, the screen excellent, 1.5 ghz processor, 1 go RAM, 32 Go HDD, sound Sony! I’m using it with a beats audio headphone, it’s a crazy …. You can pay movies full HD 1080p and link you phone to the TV via HDMI cable …. No seriously, stop asking questions and go buy it ….
soo
How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
I've had both and TBH with my Flyer being overclocked to 1.84 GHZ I can notice no difference between the two in smoothness when browsing, tweeting, reading..etc
That said though, JB and quad core does make a difference ofcourse, especially when games are concerned.
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echaru said:
How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
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I don't know about the Nexus 7, but for your Flyer, you may want to try the Puffin Browser off of the Android Market/Google Play before you buy another tablet. It sped my web surfing up tremendously. The company suggests trying the free version of the app first.
Also, u may want to search Nexus 7 + flash. I've read that it doesn't natively support flash (not certain), but hopefully that's nothing that a downloaded app can't fix.
I have great browsing with Boat browser.
Trust me its a huge speed difference. You guys saying its barely noticeable are just lieing to yourselves. Its like comparing choppiness to butter. Yea there similar alright. Cmon now.
Aside from speed the flyer has a full 7 inch screen in complete use (gingerbread only) and a nice pen function going for it.
yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
flipflop87 said:
yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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Im in the EXACT situation haha
Flyer good...Nexus incredible!
I've had my Flyer for over a year and have been fighting rom issues since then, it is workable (except GPS...Shame on you HTC for not fixing this!). Side by side -I've had my Nexus for 3 days now, the nexus screen is brighter,better contrast- whites now look slightly yellowed on the Flyer. Nexus speed is much better(expected), BT, GPS, & WiFi all operate flawlessly. I am using a usb adaptor cable from Amazon ($2.00)! to further expand storage and also connects to other devices for file transfer and viewing.Battery life on the Flyer was a solid 4.5 hours with constant video loop running- I expect 2/3 to twice the run time with the Nexus. I have a rooted-32g Nexus...couldn't be happier at this point!
Final note- I side loaded Flash and it works well with Firefox Beta.:fingers-crossed: Update:Boat browser is very fast and stable, I usually have to reboot my Flyer a couple of times a day due to lag or sometimes freezing...not so with the Nexus.
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
Oh, and as far as media consumption goes, the N7 can actually handle everything I throw at it. I can't even watch my vulkano in anything more than low res on the view. But the N7 I can put it to it's highest quality setting and it works great. Same with Hulu, and Netflix. As well as streamed content from my HTPC.
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
1454 said:
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
So that means:
limited to no small amount of space
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect...
Less screen
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right? The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both. Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet? And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls. HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity. The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought) The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
So that means:
limited to no small amount of spaceYou are not limited, just not as easy to add storage as with the flyer/View
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)This is just flat wrong
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect... Really? It doesn't have a LED, but it does still "alert", just on screen. How many alerts do you have set up on your tab? I have almost none. Mostly calendar appt's and such.
Less screenHow? If there is a difference(16:9 vs 16:10) its a matter of a .1 inch or so.
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet. I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right?
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cool but there is still non so it even lacks on 3g wich i didnt listed...
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The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both.
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is comperable ofc but when u cant hear diference between stereo and mono i would recomend some examination of hearing
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Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet?
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yes i need it badlly as i use mine 7'' tab for phone functionalities as well
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And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls.
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I dont owe device i used it once when i was deciding wich second tab to buy and i decided for Samsung Galaxy 2 7''. Sorry since i forgot wich camera it does not have; but point stays - lacks on camera. Now ask me if we need it.. Do we need a tab?
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HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity.
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As nothing is NECESSERY - i simply love them and missing them on SGTAB 2. Hiting HOME when u in full scree app helps a lot with time and pressing.
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The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought)
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U think i am happy with that?
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The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
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Workaraund - i have superfast internet wire and PC to browse fast... What has that to do with mine Flyer or N7?
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet.
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I cant give u sdcard to share u mine documents with is prity common on all mobiel devices. U cant film your gf or take pic of her, u cant draw or handwrite, no way to listen to quality music since onlly suporting 1 chanel insted of minimum 2 for stereo.
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I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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CORECTOMUNDO - u did figure it already with rear camera working SD slot but u forgot the pen and hw buttons we have stereo sound as well on JB and vibra working. All this is working on Flyer loaded with JB and is something N7 wont EVER have. Never Ever.
All i am saying is for what i need tab N7 sucks. Now if your onlly use of tab is a bit faster browsing i guess N7 is a winer buy. I unfortunally expect more. And there is much N7 does simplly not offer. Its not cheap for no reason I wont go into ghosting and cracking screens...
Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Right under his name it says "Location: Velenje"
I'm guessing his main language isn't english.
Pro-tip: Don't ask him to fix his english.
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Not arguing just saying mine points about flyer and n7 since some overrating and only a few good points about n7 beeing presented wheil only bad ones about flyer beeing pointed out. Looking forward to hear from you and where i posted any missleads or lies or non valid points.
As for mine english : yes i could put more time into what i am posting but hey looks like u understand right. Hows your Slovenian? I did something in mine life to understand u, what u did to understand me?
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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if you are referring to the backlight remaining on after locking the screen - it still occurs quite often. however, if i turn it on and off a few times it eventually completely turns off (can be quite annoying) i am really not sure of the battery life as i basically keep the flyer charged.
P.S. I recently had a few random reboots ( but only once while I was actually using it ) and it won't play HD YouTube - not that big o f a deal to me
Nah
So my upgrade has come along and I'm debating on which phone I can get.
I'm currently leaning on the HTC DNA, obviously.
I am slightly dissapointed from lack of expandable storage, but I can live with 16GB, I don't watch movies much or listen to music.
I mostly stream movies or YT videos.
Gaming wise I'm mostly just emulating and I'm sure a simple game of pokemon will not heat up my device. I will play retro-styled games or remakes from time to time such as Sonic CD and Radiant HD.
As much as I love flashing ROM's on my thunderbolt, I think I'll stick to stock until a simple root method is out, and will most probably root for Titanium backup and adblocking, nothing more (However thanks to the new adblock app I can disable ad's without root, but it will drain the battery faster)
So my main questions are these:
For previous TB owners, how's life w/o the kickstand? Truth be told I will miss that kickstand, it was perfect.
I love elegant looking things, is the 1080p screen really worth having? And do you notice any sort of lag on the DNA doing simple things such as running a livewallpaper or watching a few youtube videos?
Is the batterylife good? Really anything that can outlast my TB is great, I can go through about 1/2 a day with the type of usage I use my TB for (of course taking into account I'm running liquidsmooth desense ICS4.0).
These are really all I have to ask, I'll likely get a screen protector; but as far as cases go I prefer to go without. So I will ask; how durable is the phone? How easy is it to scratch the screen? I've heard a few people saying the screen shattering after dropping it on a hard surface once, which scares me. I drop my TB A LOT. But it's only had one small scratch and no cracks whatsoever in the 2 years I've had it.
Also I have another question regarding if I should get this phone for my father as well.
He is the average android user, has never heard of ROOT and barely knows how to access his widgets. He currently has a TB aswell with an extended battery. He is constantly recieveing calls, texting, and checking his yahoo mail (He's the average busy, busy man).
I'm feeling the note 2 is better for him, since I'm going to take a guess and say 11GB of freespace isn't going to be enough for him. Plus I'd see how S-Pen would be useful for him (I'm not too much of a fan of the S-Pen, I like to use my phone onehandid a lot.
Had a TB. Missed my kickstand a bit when I went to the Razr. Got over it pretty quick. Get the DNA. you will love it. I still have yet to root and Rom. Will get there eventually. This phone makes the Bolt seem like a playskool toy. Lol...
I haven't looked back at the TB. The wireless charging I love. My TB usb connections were always loose causing charging issues. The smaller phone felt small in my hands. I'm 6,3 and the DNA is perfect size. I do miss the larger battery and kickstand however with the fast charge option with the current roms I get almost a half charge while at lunch. Which will last me till midnight with Heavy use! As for kickstand I remember some case out there has one built in.
There's just so much awesome with the DNA! 1080p ftw!
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Lol, yes.
Is a Lamborghini a worthy upgrade from a Civic?
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I haven't looked back at the TB. The wireless charging I love. My TB usb connections were always loose causing charging issues. The smaller phone felt small in my hands. I'm 6,3 and the DNA is perfect size. I do miss the larger battery and kickstand however with the fast charge option with the current roms I get almost a half charge while at lunch. Which will last me till midnight with Heavy use! As for kickstand I remember some case out there has one built in.
There's just so much awesome with the DNA! 1080p ftw!
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Thanks, been looking at a a few more reviews; seems like the phone for me.
Not sure about my dad though; I know the note 2 is out of the picture since it's a tad on the big side.
DNA is out as well since he wants to use his current micro SD card. Look's like I'll have to get him an s3, still a pretty decent device.
making a choice in 2 weeks
So wife gave me clearance to drop the TB. Looking at the DNA and 8X. I told her I swear I will not root (the stipulation with upgrade). I never could get the phone to work as good as new with a root, and really, I don't run much rooted stuff.
I just installed TwistedUmbrella's ICS ROM and enjoy it. I never liked either Sense or Stock Android, always ran with either GoLauncher, or now my daily is SSLauncher.
I have already seen all the vids on performance and appearance and what not. Personal opinion on rooting. Why root when the custom rom isn't going to be an major upgrade (see TB!) from what its running now? Other than removing the Verizon bloatware, and side installing apps like Tethers or 'black market' apps, I can just run SSL and call it good, right?
I am not a 'power user', mostly music for it. Occasional facebook, and XDA. So what limits does the no-sd option leave me? How many songs am I looking at before I am screwed and have to pay for some cloud service?
Thanks guys, everyone on this site has been a major help in everything I have done with the TB to make it last this long!
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Yes.
Get the DNA, you wont regret it
if you DONT get the DNA, you WILL regret it. forever.
rajuabju said:
Yes.
Get the DNA, you wont regret it
if you DONT get the DNA, you WILL regret it. forever.
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I know its a positive upgrade, just curious about running the alternate launcher if that will suffice for customizing, and the amount of music on the 16G card.
My music is scattered about 5 folders and there is a ton of apks, zips, ROMs and backups, so figuring out my actual music quantity for comparison is a little daunting. Call me lazy, hoping you guys can give me an idea on that amount of space.
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I know its a positive upgrade, just curious about running the alternate launcher if that will suffice for customizing, and the amount of music on the 16G card.
My music is scattered about 5 folders and there is a ton of apks, zips, ROMs and backups, so figuring out my actual music quantity for comparison is a little daunting. Call me lazy, hoping you guys can give me an idea on that amount of space.
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I run Apex without issue. I need the customization. After Android and bloatware you get about 11gig on your phone. How much your music will fill up depends on the size of each music file. I use a bunch of FLAC files so I only have a few albums on there and still have 6 gig left to play with. Just means you have to swap out your music more often. Still love the phone despite the small space.
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I run Apex without issue. I need the customization. After Android and bloatware you get about 11gig on your phone. How much your music will fill up depends on the size of each music file. I use a bunch of FLAC files so I only have a few albums on there and still have 6 gig left to play with. Just means you have to swap out your music more often. Still love the phone despite the small space.
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Thanks Memnoch!
Keep em coming folks. Looking for more opinions!
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Is a Lamborghini a worthy upgrade from a Civic?
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Loving that statement haha!
I came from the Droid Charge (the crappy Samsung alternative to the TBolt), and I'll tell you I love this thing to death. I thought Super AMOLED plus was as good as it could get but boy does this screen prove me wrong. 16GB isn't a problem for me. The Charge came with 32GB but it was on a card, a slow one, so I never filled it up because it slowed the phone down so much. Having this 16GB full I saw no difference in the speed of the phone. I like Sense better than TouchWiz, but I'm sure a launcher would kill most of it if that's what you want.
As far as music goes, I was a little bummed that it isn't compatible with DoubleTwist at the moment because there's no mass storage connection option, so all my iTunes music won't play on it (it's all AIFF). On the upside, with the beats audio the music I've taken the time to load onto google music streams great, sounds almost as good as my ipod in my car (which plugs in USB) through the aux jack. And I'm an audio nerd, so I was impressed with that.
I would say take the plunge, you won't be disappointed.
Yes the DNA is worth it
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Yeah, seriously man, it's a HUGE upgrade.
Looking at the two side by side, my TB just seems kind of... dumpy. If you're into elegance you'll wonder how you stuck with the TB this long. And when you're actually using it -- no comparison. I was running Liquid's ICS ROM as well and while it did the job, it's still kinda clunky (especially the recent apps). Whereas the DNA just flies. And the screen is ridiculous.
You'll probably get over the kickstand (I didn't use mine too much but thought it was a cool feature), and sure, the storage is definitely a trade-off. And I preferred AOSP on my Bolt, but I'm honestly dealing with Sense just fine. Root and ROM and few tweaks and it's more than usable. I always liked Sense's cameras and the text selection zoom thing they have going on. The messaging app is pretty nice, too.
I can't comment on its finish's durability. I keep my phones naked but don't tend to drop or abuse them much. But with Gorilla Glass 2 and the matte back, I think you'll be fine. Battery is also okay. It should get you through a full day, but it's nothing to write home about.
Anyway, yeah, you should probably get it.
Thanks guys, appreciate all the opinions. Maybe it's time to 'cloud up' and start using those services.
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The Thunderbolt was a hell of a device in its time, but the DNA blows it away. The DNA is definitely much smoother. Specifically noting the screen transitions, i have seldom seen it lagging or jittery. Tho by the end of its life my thunderbolt had seen more roms than a Nintendo emulator. So i guess my experience with the thunderbolt "stock" isn't great. The playstation emulator seems to run flawlessly on the dna, as well I've had good experiences video streaming which always seemed to be a problem on the TB (never could get the youtube app to work right). I've had good experience with google play music handling my music and just putting a select playlist on my phones memory. The audio quality just playing though an auxiliary port in my car is much better than the thunderbolt. The battery lasts longer as well. You wont go all day with heavy use but it is definitely better than the thunderbolt. I do miss the kickstand tho.
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The Thunderbolt was a hell of a device in its time, but the DNA blows it away. The DNA is definitely much smoother. Specifically noting the screen transitions, i have seldom seen it lagging or jittery. Tho by the end of its life my thunderbolt had seen more roms than a Nintendo emulator. So i guess my experience with the thunderbolt "stock" isn't great. The playstation emulator seems to run flawlessly on the dna, as well I've had good experiences video streaming which always seemed to be a problem on the TB (never could get the youtube app to work right). I've had good experience with google play music handling my music and just putting a select playlist on my phones memory. The audio quality just playing though an auxiliary port in my car is much better than the thunderbolt. The battery lasts longer as well. You wont go all day with heavy use but it is definitely better than the thunderbolt. I do miss the kickstand tho.
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Thanks! And I never really got into the kickstand. The only time I would use the kickstand is when I plugged in to watch something, which meant I couldn't do both, or when I was listening to music to stand it up while plugged in. But usually lay down for that since its a ***** to do screen actions without the phone moving.
Seems my only concern now is storage, I will have to see just how much my music takes.
I'm a bit excited, I see adrynalyn lurking around these parts. I recognize him from my time with the thunderbolt.
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I'm a bit excited, I see adrynalyn lurking around these parts. I recognize him from my time with the thunderbolt.
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No! I promised no rooting! He is not allowed!
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