Hi there, a friend of mine gave me his HDX 8.9 because he told me that "it wouldn't work" and I was wondering if I can possibly fix it. All I can describe is that the device seems to be in a bootloop or something, and only powers on when it's plugged into something. I noticed that sometimes it says [fastboot] right next to the Amazon logo, but that's all i can really describe. Unfortunately, I can't show a picture since I'm still under 10 posts lol.
So you think there's anyway I can fix this? I don't really know where to start.
Roflcakes123 said:
Hi there, a friend of mine gave me his HDX 8.9 because he told me that "it wouldn't work" and I was wondering if I can possibly fix it. All I can describe is that the device seems to be in a bootloop or something, and only powers on when it's plugged into something. I noticed that sometimes it says [fastboot] right next to the Amazon logo, but that's all i can really describe. Unfortunately, I can't show a picture since I'm still under 10 posts lol.
So you think there's anyway I can fix this? I don't really know where to start.
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With seriously advanced skills, considerable patience and a dollop of luck one can sometimes coax a looping/unresponsive 3rd gen HDX back to life from the fastboot prompt. The tasks involved are not for the faint of heart with little to no support from the dwindling HDX community. If you wish to press on the best resource may be XDA member @draxie who has the most extensive experience with advanced HDX recovery techniques. Good luck.
Davey126 said:
With seriously advanced skills, considerable patience and a dollop of luck one can sometimes coax a looping/unresponsive 3rd gen HDX back to life from the fastboot prompt. The tasks involved are not for the faint of heart with little to no support from the dwindling HDX community. If you wish to press on the best resource may be XDA member @draxie who has the most extensive experience with advance HDX recovery techniques. Good luck.
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Thanks for replying, do you know if there's some kind of "recovery mode" that I can boot into? I have no idea what the previous owner did to this, so I don't know if there is.
Roflcakes123 said:
Thanks for replying, do you know if there's some kind of "recovery mode" that I can boot into? I have no idea what the previous owner did to this, so I don't know if there is.
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- remove tether/charge cable
- turn off device (long press power until screen goes dark)
- press <power>+<vol-up>
- when logo appears release power button followed by vol-up
- if device enters a recovery environment with two options (stock recovery) try a 'factory reset' (probably won't work)
- if device fires up TWRP post back for further guidance
worst case...
Davey126 said:
- remove tether/charge cable
- turn off device (long press power until screen goes dark)
- press <power>+<vol-up>
- when logo appears release power button followed by vol-up
- if device enters a recovery environment with two options (stock recovery) try a 'factory reset' (probably won't work)
- if device fires up TWRP post back for further guidance
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And, if your device does none of the above,
but enters fastboot mode, then you should
first check if the bootloader is locked.
If it isn´t, you can flash TWRP via fastboot
and return to @Davey126 for guidance.
If it is, you´ll need to follow these instructions,
keeping this in mind.
In either case, you should be fine...
as long as you know (or learn) how to use fastboot.
I'm not home at the moment to check if there is a recovery mode, but I did forget to mention that the tablet is a 4th gen one and that my computer did show a drive letter, so it at least recognizes the tablet. I hear 4th gen tablets are harder to work with, does this mean it's not possible to recover?
Roflcakes123 said:
I'm not home at the moment to check if there is a recovery mode, but I did forget to mention that the tablet is a 4th gen one and that my computer did show a drive letter, so it at least recognizes the tablet. I hear 4th gen tablets are harder to work with, does this mean it's not possible to recover?
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The more advanced instructions linked from my post
have only been verified to work on 3rd generation
devices, and could easily lead to a brick. I strongly
advise *against* testing those on a 4th generation
device, except possibly as the very last resource.
On the other hand, if you have a drive letter at times,
and a fastboot prompt at other times, you may have
a much easier path.
In any case, I neither own nor have any experience
with a 4th generation device; so, I'm afraid I cannot
help in this venture.
Ah, well that's a shame, since I really liked how this device looks. I'll probably just let it sit there for a while until more people have experience with a 4th gen HDX. I'll probably get a tablet for myself, do most people think that the HDX 7 is a better device than the newer Fire HD 8?
Roflcakes123 said:
Ah, well that's a shame, since I really liked how this device looks. I'll probably just let it sit there for a while until more people have experience with a 4th gen HDX. I'll probably get a tablet for myself, do most people think that the HDX 7 is a better device than the newer Fire HD 8?
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Any 3rd gen HDX is a better choice than Amazon's 5th and 6th gen offerings which include the Fire 7 and HD 8, respectfully. The former is solidly entry level with limited storage and a truely lousy screen. The latter is a modest step up but, like the 4th gen HDX, has no custom ROM support. In contrast, the HDX line was positioned as a mid to high end device with gorgeous panels, more RAM (for multitasking) and strong processors that remain competitive today. A downside with pre-5th gen devices is the lack of external (SD card) and/or OTG (USB) storage options. Everything must reside onboard which can be a severe limitation on 16GB devices.
4th gen HDX devices were never popular and are unlikely to garnish further attention from the development community.
Davey126 said:
Any 3rd gen HDX is a better choice than Amazon's 5th and 6th gen offerings which include the Fire 7 and HD 8, respectfully. The former is solidly entry level with limited storage and a truely lousy screen. The latter is a modest step up but, like the 4th gen HDX, has no custom ROM support. In contrast, the HDX line was positioned as a mid to high end device with gorgeous panels, more RAM (for multitasking) and strong processors that remain competitive today. A downside with pre-5th gen devices is the lack of external (SD card) and/or OTG (USB) storage options. Everything must reside onboard which can be a severe limitation on 16GB devices.
4th gen HDX devices were never popular and are unlikely to garnish further attention from the development community.
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Ah alright, I was lucky enough to find a 32GB HDX 7 for $65, so I'm happy about that. I was seriously considering the Fire HD 8 just because it's newer and has a bigger screen, but it has no custom ROM support yet so I decided not to pick that up instead.
Thanks for all the help guys, hopefully one day I can put the 4th gen HDX to use.
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Thought I'd post a contrary opinion (based on many of the threads here and on other sites).
I REALLY like my NT! I've come up Handsprings, Palms, Pres, and iPads, so this isn't my first visit to the rodeo. Currently, I've got the NT and a Sprint Evo 3D.
Yes, out of the box there's some gaps, but a bit of time here and other forums have offered suggestions on side-loading, sync'ing my Evo apps, and tweaking the KT. It's not the end-all-and-be-all pad,but for the price, it does well.
The biggest issue I had was the lack of offline media, since I spend 12-15 hours a week in the air. However, a bit of cross-syncing and I've got my Amazon MP3 library and a couple of pretty good media players.
Am I missing things? Well, I'd really like bluetooth for my freedom keyboard and being able to see my side loaded apps from the main launcher would be nice, but at this moment, I'm finding the KT to be a fine investment.
Oh, and I have moved my new media purchases over to BN. I figure tossing them some bucks only encourages them to keep Nook development going.
I'm really happy with mine too. Its super snappy, feels much more polished than the nook color did. Plus I love reading and reading is an absolute pleasure on this thing.
I absolutely adore my NT, granted its my first tablet, but its ridiculous how much i can do with it for the price i paid. Not to mention it hasnt even been rooted yet!
Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
Well, since I haven't found too much I couldn't do without a touch of effort, I'm not feeling the pain of not being able to root. Sure, it may come later, but, yeesh, I've only had the NT for 3 days!!
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Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
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The nook tablet. The difference in speed alone is worth it, the nook color felt underpowered to me even rooted.
Ditto.
On paper, the specs are simply hardware upgrade...this much B&N got it right. In reality, it makes the the device more responsive and more enjoyable user experience. The jerky delay in NC drove me nuts.
I have owned the xoom, asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1, htc flyer and got rid of them all. The one reason? The tegra 2 processor. These devices were hamstrung in the video playback department, a fundemental functional of a media tablet. The NT plays the same hd media files i couldn't on these high end devices FLAWLESSLY. If you ask me this alone makes the nook tablet worth it.
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My tablet history has been:
Viewsonic Gtab (Awful. Just awful. Don't ever even look at one)
Nook Color (1.1ghz OC and still slow to my tastes)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (The designer of the Tegra 2 should be impaled as punishment)
Nook Tablet (It does what I wanted except run Google stuff)
What I had wanted was to watch 720p shows in bed or plane or between classes. NT has been the only thing that could do that except my phone (SGS Fascinate).
Even without a root ever coming to be and having to deal with sideloading I still think this is the best tablet I have ever owned. And it's made by a damn bookstore >.>
There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
Drewmungus said:
There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
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I have noticed that using the n button in certain situations (ex: during video in MX Player, certain games) it acts as a back button. Don't fear the n just treat it like a very "special" friend.
I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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Well, issue 2 is definitely legitimate. Issue 1, just go to the store and install dolphin on one of their nooks, see if you can login to work.
Issue 3, if the rumors are true that they will be able to repartition the space in a week or so then, well, not an issue.
if the nook tablets bootloader is truly locked, then say good bye to ever, ever seeing a beautiful custom kernel on the nook tablet to perform tweaks such as overclocking. This also makes it difficult to create custom roms. cyanogenmod 7 is a possibility with 2nd init. cyanogenmod 9 is also a possibility, but unless official ics is dished out to the nook tablet, then we will get cyanogenmod 9 2nd init with gingerbread libs.. Someone should send a rather nasty note to barnes & noble about this.
Re: 1GB usable - It's a legitimate support issue. You (and everyone concerned) should call support and light a fire.
Front-line grunts won't be able to help you (a good thing), so ask to escalate it to as high as you can go. Your first response will be to get the tech's name. Your last response will be, "I'm sorry you can't help me with this issue. Please refer me to someone who can. If no other tech is available, please let me speak to your manager."
Don't get discouraged if you get blown off or hit a dead-end. Redial and retry. Social engineering is about patience and persistence. Always be polite, but firm.
Once you get to someone who knows his bits and bytes, then soften your tone and get friendly. Talk shop. Use the occasion to ask about other techy things, like, eh, locked bootloader. Get whatever info you can, including the dude's extension number so you can call him back.
The strategy is to leverage a legitimate support issue to get info about the things you really want to know. To do that, you'll have to troll their support services, and have some social engineering skill. It's probably best done in a team, but you can be the Lone Ranger if you're good.
BTW, techsupps have scripts, and you should have one as well. Plan everything you want to say in advance, and type them out.
Anyway, at the very least, you will get the 1GB issue logged and escalated.
I honestly don't think they're going to bother blocking this loophole. There's really nothing in it for them but bad press. Currently they can sell a tablet to regular folks, while at the same time offering a tablet that's also appealing to techie types (but without having to advertise it). There's really no advantage in blocking the loophole.
Also I'm wondering: is there NO way to block updates from Barnes and Noble? No way to tell the device to notify before actually updating? I understand that B&N will push out updates without any warning, but isn't there a way that WE can decide to accept them or not? Or is it really just totally out of our hands?
to whooever it was who thought the HTC flyer was running a tegra 2: it's not. It's a 1.5 ghz single core.
So far, the t2 seems fine in conjunction with mx video player and the software decode on the things I've tried it on. but I'm not mostly using a tablet for video, so the fact that a PAL formatted disc image I have makes trouble is ok by me. I will say, though, that the single core chip in the Samsung media player seems faster than the t2 or the (admittedly brief) run I took at an NT this evening. I didn't walk out of BN needing desperately to replace my NC, though - manual nooter, 1.1 ghz kernel, seemed relatively comparable to what I saw, but I wasn't ready to actually test carefully.
The NT is rooted as of today, via zergrush. This should make it possible to redo the partitioning. The bootloader's another issue; I don't know if anyone has tried looking at putting the little guy into fastboot and seeing if oem unlock is an accepted command. It may be. Unlocking it may turn off Netflix support, but it should open up avenues for complete custom ROMs.
On blocking OTA updates: probably fairly simple. D/l the OTA and look at the build id strings in build.prop. Update build.prop on your device accordingly. I've blocked the 1.3 update this way, and it works great.
It will probably not work cleanly for blocking the 1.4 update, though, if that's a Gingerbread update, since to get the block you probably have to tell the device not just that it's running the current BN build, but that it's also running a Gingerbread vintage OS - but I don't know about that.
There are some sqlite hacks for blocking updates as well - setting an autoupdate flag to "false," basically. I'm not sure how well they work, but blocking the update is always a topic of discussion immediately after one's released and no one's figured out how easy it is to pop yet
My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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I'm fairly certain that it does have a full recovery image imbedded somewhere. Yesterday I tried in stalling Chainfire (which apparently messes with the filesystem) in order to get full access to the GPU and fool the market, making all apps show up. After installing it, which required a reboot, my NT went into a boot-loop. I could not power it off and with no recovery available I thought I was toast and out of $260. However, after many (10?) failed boots it automatically went into Factory Reset mode and did a complete wipe.
I'm not sure how deep of a tailspin this recovery can get you out of but there is definitely a safety net there.
I have to agree with the OP. I am very happy with my NT. It is very snappy and with the ability to sideload apps I have been able to fill in what I feel was missing. Battery life on this is very good. I did buy this hoping I could boot off an sd card, but if it ends up not possible I will still be pleased with my investment.
Automatic Root, Fully functional ClockWorkMod image, and plethora of other awesome stuff here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297246
Thank you xboxexpert for all your hard work!
Step 1. Plug the device in to your computer and uninstall any drivers that may load.
Step 2. Download and update the Android SDK, including the USB Driver or try the PDANet drivers.
Step 3. Add the following line to adb_usb.ini found in your user directory in the .android folder (e.g. C:\Users\YourName\.android\):
Code:
0x109b
If the file does not exist, simply create it. This may require a reboot
Step 4. Load up ADB and check connectivity through the following command:
Code:
adb devices
Step 5. If everything reported correctly in the previous step, run Motochop.
Root directions
Thanks go out to tharien and ATGAdmin for figuring it out!
clockworkmod image - be sure to read the thread!
Thanks go out to pacman366!
The First Custom Rom!
by ATGAdmin
Looks like you were one of the lucky few who were able to purchase this little gem early. Congrats on that. I picked mine up today and I must say that it is probably the best $150 I've spent in a very long time. It's the happiest I've been with a gadget purchase since scoring a BNIB 32GB HP TouchPad for $99 during the firesale. With that said, I hope to see more people coming to the forum with interest in the device. We can only speculate, but I would imagine this low-price and feature rich tablet will get the attention of at least a few developers and we'll get more info then. As for what I have been able to obtain, I'm stuck at the same roadblock as you. I'm bumping this thread for further interest.
I agree. Best spent $150 in a long while. Seems just as fast as my gs4.
Only cons are the screen and bulk, but for the price its a steal!!!
Hopefully it gets support for updates from hisense or the great xda devs start playing with this beast.
Root for this is needed, stat !!!
I'm thinking to sell my Nexus 7 16gb and get this since it has the hdmi and microsd slot.
I'm sure XDA guys will make this device a beast, right?
Will be interested in seeing is some deva pick this up as my main concern would be support.
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Will be interested in seeing is some deva pick this up as my main concern would be support.
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I just picked one of these up on the way to work this morning. It is sitting on my desk charging as I am trying to get some work out of the way before I turn it on. I will be replacing a Kindle with this and just from eyeballing it my Kindle Seido case may be a perfect fit. I will test it tonight. It also appears that a Kindle screen protector will work for it as well. I would guess the Nexus 7 or other 7" protectors will work also, but I can use a ruler and verify the Kindle one since I already have that device.
Have you tried using the motochopper tool from djrbliss?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2233852
I would start with trying the root exploits that work on the Nexus 7 (Similar chip set?) and Android 4.2.
I don't have this tablet, so I have not tested to see if this does in fact work.
Random question, since this is the only thread about the Sero 7 Pro I've found.
How are the speakers? I have a Kindle Fire HD and I am pondering about the switch...
Also, can this support 64GB microSDs?
Also, I've heard reports of flawed Sero Pros popping up.
Does anyone have any firsthand experiences with how this tablet's holding up?
Thanks in advance!
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Random question, since this is the only thread about the Sero 7 Pro I've found.
How are the speakers? I have a Kindle Fire HD and I am pondering about the switch...
Also, I've heard reports of flawed Sero Pros popping up.
Does anyone have any firsthand experiences with how this tablet's holding up?
Thanks in advance!
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The speakers a actually pretty loud. I was watching movies on it last night and was satisfied with the sound.
I saw some random comments (in the comments section) on various articles about this tablet but they all seem to be written by the same person based on the writing style and content.
Mine is holding up great. No issues at all and is as enjoyable as using my galaxy s4 but with a bigger screen. I'm testing out the battery today to see how long she lasts. If she lasts me the whole day of heavy use, she's a keeper.
maguin4 said:
The speakers a actually pretty loud. I was watching movies on it last night and was satisfied with the sound.
I saw some random comments (in the comments section) on various articles about this tablet but they all seem to be written by the same person based on the writing style and content.
Mine is holding up great. No issues at all and is as enjoyable as using my galaxy s4 but with a bigger screen. I'm testing out the battery today to see how long she lasts. If she lasts me the whole day of heavy use, she's a keeper.
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How's the memory card compatibility?
64GB MicroSDs?
Add me to the list of buyers! Just got this about an hr ago. This is my 1st tablet and I must say this thing is nice. 15 days to decide to keep it or not. What root access.
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How's the memory card compatibility?
64GB MicroSDs?
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The box states 32GB MSD. I only had a 16GB to stuff in it.
New owner here.
Did anyone else have to go to multiple stores only to deal with customer service that had no clue what you were looking for?
The first store I went to, they older guy was disgruntle I interrupted him, when I pressed him to do his job he couldn't spell Hisense.
Just picked up the Pro today, haven't opened it yet. As mentioned above, with the 15 days from Wally, I'll wait a bit to see if any devs pick it up. I have to say it does look like a terrific deal for the specs and if there is some XDA love for it, I'll give my GTab 2 to my wife.
I'll be searching this forum daily to see what shakes down.
@tharien,
First location I went to, walked in and went right to the display case, saw the Lite and Pro. Asked the nearest associate to open the case, checked out and left. Took less than 5 minutes.
Mike T
Good to hear. I was also waiting to see if devs pick it up because I was looking for a tab for my wife and daughter. But don't want to hang them out with one that would be unsupported. Let us know how hdmi works as my wife would want that for work.
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64GB microsdxc
I have a class 10 Sandisk 64GB microsdxc card in my sero 7 pro. It is not formatted as exFat since it came from a GS3 running a custom ROM.
tharien said:
New owner here.
Did anyone else have to go to multiple stores only to deal with customer service that had no clue what you were looking for?
The first store I went to, they older guy was disgruntle I interrupted him, when I pressed him to do his job he couldn't spell Hisense.
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I had to go to 2 different stores. The first store had a single 7 Pro Lite. The second store had 5-6 of both models.
I hope devs pick up this device too. Though I'll likely get one anyway...
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As far as I know, this is a new Tablet. 7 inch Nvidia Terga3 1.3ghz quad core with 1gig of ram/8gb ROM. NFC, Bluetooth 3.0, 802.11a/b/g/n 2.4ghz and 5ghz, front and rear facing cameras, 5 and 2 megapixels respectively, GPS amd mini HDMI. Jelly Bean 4.2. It's a decent little tablet.
The trouble is getting it rooted. Recovery mode is attainable and I've only been able to pick up the serial number via ADB when attempting to update from ADB in recovery. Any other time, I get nothing. Any advice on how to proceed? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
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How were you able to get feedback in recovery mode? I can't get ADB to see the device at all. I tried using the Nexu 7 ADB drivers as well as a raw set. I can only get Windows to see it, however that's an easy thing when forcing a driver.
I also tried fastboot - Windows sees it as the Nvidia tegra 3 Fastboot connection, so I'm starting to think we need the real driver from Hisense unless we can find a generic alternative.
Device Manager shows (! - M470BSA) and again under portable devices correctly as a media device.
The Vendor ID is 109B which comes back to Gemlight Computers Ltd which mfg USB for OEMs.
edit - Hisense does not have anything for this tablet on either their international site or their US site aside from a press kit.
tharien said:
How were you able to get feedback in recovery mode? I can't get ADB to see the device at all. I tried using the Nexu 7 ADB drivers as well as a raw set. I can only get Windows to see it, however that's an easy thing when forcing a driver.
I also tried fastboot - Windows sees it as the Nvidia tegra 3 Fastboot connection, so I'm starting to think we need the real driver from Hisense unless we can find a generic alternative.
Device Manager shows (! - M470BSA) and again under portable devices correctly as a media device.
The Vendor ID is 109B which comes back to Gemlight Computers Ltd which mfg USB for OEMs.
edit - Hisense does not have anything for this tablet on either their international site or their US site aside from a press kit.
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I believe you're right about needing the ADB drivers from Hisense, hopefully over the next few days, it will materialize on their site. I guess they felt we needed to download their presskit instead of drivers or firmware.
Anyway, maybe it's worth trying Koush's Universal ADB drivers? Possibly one in the list will work with this.
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/koush...connectinghacking-android-devices-easier.html
EDIT: Also found this one: Essential ADB Driver Installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091922
Mike T
My friend found a new kindle fire 8.9" HDX on the road side is there a way to get into it to find the owner or reset the start up pin lock to access is there a reward for turning in a found unit ? I know there is one troubled person out there who lost it and would most likely be surprised to get it back any suggestions would be greatly appreciated at the losers end .
bdh69691 said:
My friend found a new kindle fire 8.9" on the road side is there a way to get into it to find the owner or reset the start up pin lock to access is there a reward for turning in a found unit ? I know there is one troubled person out there who lost it and would most likely be surprised to get it back any suggestions would be greatly appreciated at the losers end .
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Maybe contact Amazon. I always look at life as.. what if it was me what would I want.. thats how I live.
Amazon have a lost and found?
:highfive:Thanks for your words of wisdom I agree !
Well since you didn't ad hdx to end I can say if it's an HD you could wipe the user data from fastboot, I believe that would fix the password issue, at least from there you could actually obtain the serial number and such to report see about amazon looking into it. If it's an hdx though I think that function is disabled in fastboot, maybe if adb is on, the device would report its serial number as the device Id in adb devices.
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Dear all, my Kindle Fire HDX seems frozen after the FireOS update to ver. 5 (I think). There was a notification saying the OS is updated and when I was using Silk to browse the web, it suddenly restarted and it just keep looping the "kindlefire" colour animation indefinitely.
I've contacted with Amazon CS and they suggested me to factory reset it. I tried, but the device still loop in the colour animation screen.
I'm not familiar with ADB but anyway downloaded and tried some command:
adb devices (no device listed)
adb wait-for-device (no response)
adb usb (error: no devices found)
adb shell (error: no devices found)
Did I miss some steps and is it possible to resuscitate my Fire HDX? Thank you very much!
leoagneau said:
Dear all, my Kindle Fire HDX seems frozen after the FireOS update to ver. 5 (I think). There was a notification saying the OS is updated and when I was using Silk to browse the web, it suddenly restarted and it just keep looping the "kindlefire" colour animation indefinitely.
I've contacted with Amazon CS and they suggested me to factory reset it. I tried, but the device still loop in the colour animation screen.
I'm not familiar with ADB but anyway downloaded and tried some command:
adb devices (no device listed)
adb wait-for-device (no response)
adb usb (error: no devices found)
adb shell (error: no devices found)
Did I miss some steps and is it possible to resuscitate my Fire HDX? Thank you very much!
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- what version of FireOS was on your device before it updated?
- rooted? Google Services (Play Store) installed?
- do you know if USB debugging was enabled (in FireOS settings)?
It was most likely updating to 4.5.5.1. as 3rd gen isn't getting Fire OS 5.
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- what version of FireOS was on your device before it updated?
- rooted? Google Services (Play Store) installed?
- do you know if USB debugging was enabled (in FireOS settings)?
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Actually my wife told me that she saw a notification about an update was installed and I'm not very sure about the version.
I didn't root the device and didn't installed the Play Store.
Sorry that I don't remember whether USB debugging was enabled or not.
Thank you!
leoagneau said:
Actually my wife told me that she saw a notification about an update was installed and I'm not very sure about the version.
I didn't root the device and didn't installed the Play Store.
Sorry that I don't remember whether USB debugging was enabled or not.
Thank you!
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Going to assume 4.5.5 -> 4.5.5.1. Unfortunately, not much can be done if you can not establish adb access. Try these drivers. Even then recovery is a long shot. Involves installing a different launcher (likely Nova) via adb which FireOS will hate but may get you through the balance of the boot-up sequence. Have to see what works from there.
Death by unsolicited OTA is a common occurrence even on pure stock and especially 8.9" models. If purchased within the last year (exactly 365 days) seek a warranty exchange from Amazon.
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Going to assume 4.5.5 -> 4.5.5.1. Unfortunately, not much can be done if you can not establish adb access. Try these drivers. Even then recovery is a long shot. Involves installing a different launcher (likely Nova) via adb which FireOS will hate but may get you through the balance of the boot-up sequence. Have to see what works from there.
Death by unsolicited OTA is a common occurrence even on pure stock and especially 8.9" models. If purchased within the last year (exactly 365 days) seek a warranty exchange from Amazon.
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I have tried the drivers but my computer seems doesn't detect any new hardware so I can't install the driver for the device. I wonder whether a "factory cable" can help or not?
Btw, just curious, is there any clue on what process/step/whatever is blocking the system from loading properly? :cyclops:
leoagneau said:
I have tried the drivers but my computer seems doesn't detect any new hardware so I can't install the driver for the device. I wonder whether a "factory cable" can help or not?
Btw, just curious, is there any clue on what process/step/whatever is blocking the system from loading properly? :cyclops:
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Unfortunately, 'factory' (sometimes called fastboot) cables do not work with HDX devices. Appears to be disabled in hardware.
Uncertain what failed. Sometimes it's the native launcher which is the mitigation I was suggesting w/Nova. Longshot at best but I know of no other with your config.
ADB access is key. If a connection can not be established little can be done short of replacing boards.
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Unfortunately, 'factory' (sometimes called fastboot) cables do not work with HDX devices. Appears to be disabled in hardware.
Uncertain what failed. Sometimes it's the native launcher which is the mitigation I was suggesting w/Nova. Longshot at best but I know of no other with your config.
ADB access is key. If a connection can not be established little can be done short of replacing boards.
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Amazon offers a $20 discount for a new HDX device to me, and I'm just wondering whether it's time to try something new, rather than another HDX...
leoagneau said:
Amazon offers a $20 discount for a new HDX device to me, and I'm just wondering whether it's time to try something new, rather than another HDX...
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I would be wary getting another large HDX. Expensive with so-so reliability. Uncertain how long Amazon will sell/support 4th gen models. They don't get any love in promotional materials (absent from most comparisons). Limited customization options, no root, custom roms or external storage. Pros are obvious: fantastic panel, form factor, audio, battery life. You. Won't find many other tabs will similar specs. Tough decision - especially after owning one of these beauties. If you do go for it be sure to get an extended warranty. SquareTrade has always treated me well with multiple iPhone replacements (via the Apple Store; not some cheap refurb) at low/no cost. Haven't had to make a claim on any other device so can't speak to that. Good luck.
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Amazon offers a $20 discount for a new HDX device to me, and I'm just wondering whether it's time to try something new, rather than another HDX...
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I'd look into other devices within a similar price range. The 3rd generation HDX tablets have been discontinued (4th generation soon to follow, I can only guess), the development scene is arguably lacking, and it won't get much better. Though the HDX line certainly offers great hardware, we have to face the fact that it's nearing the end of its life cycle. There are many options like the Nexus 9, which are much more user-friendly in terms of modding, and will have support from both the manufacturer as well as the community for a good few years.
I just got my Kindle Fire HDX 7 about a month ago, and it had Fire OS 4.5.5.1. I wanted to unlock the bootloader, so I was stupid enough to try to downgrade the device. So I tried it, and there, it became a paperweight! I know I can open it up and replace the motherboard, but I don't want to open up my Fire HDX. So I went over the forums and found out I can use a factory(fastboot) cable. Is there anyway to unbrick the Fire HDX 7 that is on Fire OS 4.5.5.1?
hammaad5 said:
I just got my Kindle Fire HDX 7 about a month ago, and it had Fire OS 4.5.5.1. I wanted to unlock the bootloader, so I was stupid enough to try to downgrade the device. So I tried it, and there, it became a paperweight! I know I can open it up and replace the motherboard, but I don't want to open up my Fire HDX. So I went over the forums and found out I can use a factory(fastboot) cable. Is there anyway to unbrick the Fire HDX 7 that is on Fire OS 4.5.5.1?
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- factory (fastboot) cables are ineffective on this device except in one special case which does not apply to your device
- board/battery replacement is exceptionally difficult on 7" models due to copious use of glue; a cracked screen is the likely outcome
- hard brick is permanent; sorry for your loss
Davey126 said:
- factory (fastboot) cables are ineffective on this device except in one special case which does not apply to your device
- board/battery replacement is exceptionally difficult on 7" models due to copious use of glue; a cracked screen is the likely outcome
- hard brick is permanent; sorry for your loss
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I don't understand, if I use a Factory cable, won't it force my HDX 7 into fastboot? And from there I can flash the stock rom?
hammaad5 said:
I don't understand, if I use a Factory cable, won't it force my HDX 7 into fastboot? And from there I can flash the stock rom?
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Nope - Amazon crippled recovery capabilities by: 1) disabling the 'interface' that recognizes factory/fastboot cables; and 2) disabling various fastboot commands with a locked bootloader. Long story short there is no way to flash stock recovery on a locked device that will not boot. Amazon devices in general and HDX models in particular easy to brick and nearly impossible to recover.
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Nope - Amazon crippled recovery capabilities by: 1) disabling the 'interface' that recognizes factory/fastboot cables; and 2) disabling various fastboot commands with a locked bootloader. Long story short there is no way to flash stock recovery on a locked device that will not boot. Amazon devices in general and HDX models in particular easy to brick and nearly impossible to recover.
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Then what is that "special case" you mentioned the post before?
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Then what is that "special case" you mentioned the post before?
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Devices that became inoperable while running FireOS v3.2.6 or lower; does not apply to your device as you were running FireOS v4 with a locked bootloader.
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Devices that became inoperable while running FireOS v3.2.6 or lower; does not apply to your device as you were running FireOS v4 with a locked bootloader.
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Can I recover my device by replacing only motherboard?
hammaad5 said:
Can I recover my device by replacing only motherboard?
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yes, of course
hammaad5 said:
Can I recover my device by replacing only motherboard?
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aaronkatrini said:
yes, of course
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I believe both mother and daughter boards are required. Others have reported great difficulty disassembling 7" models due to dense packaging and copious use of glue. Cracked screens are common. Also note the condition/preparation of the replacement components plays a large role on whether the device is ultimately recoverable.
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I believe both mother and daughter boards are required. Others have reported great difficulty disassembling 7" models due to dense packaging and copious use of glue. Cracked screens are common. Also note the condition/preparation of the replacement components plays a large role on whether the device is ultimately recoverable.
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Wouldn't the motherboard and daughterboard be on the same board?
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Wouldn't the motherboard and daughterboard be on the same board?
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You'll need to do some homework to determine what is required. Not a lot of information out there. In the end it may be more cost effective to acquire another device.
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I believe both mother and daughter boards are required. Others have reported great difficulty disassembling 7" models due to dense packaging and copious use of glue. Cracked screens are common. Also note the condition/preparation of the replacement components plays a large role on whether the device is ultimately recoverable.
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@Davey126, I contacted Amazon, and they said I still have a warranty for this device. Can I send this tablet to them for replacement?
hammaad5 said:
@Davey126, I contacted Amazon, and they said I still have a warranty for this device. Can I send this tablet to them for replacement?
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Yes! This is an excellent resolution to your issue. You will receive a refurbished (not new) replacement that is a one time courtesy exchange. I assumed your warranty has expired as 3rd gen HDX models went out of production last summer.
When the new one arrives be sure to post your intentions. It will likely arrive with FireOS v4 which requires special handling to root and install software (safestrap v4.x) that supports a limited suite of Kitkat based custom roms if that is your desire. Someone will validate your game plan to help avoid another brick.
Davey126 said:
Yes! This is an excellent resolution to your issue. You will receive a refurbished (not new) replacement that is a one time courtesy exchange. I assumed your warranty has expired as 3rd gen HDX models went out of production last summer.
When the new one arrives be sure to post your intentions. It will likely arrive with FireOS v4 which requires special handling to root and install software (safestrap v4.x) that supports a limited suite of Kitkat based custom roms if that is your desire. Someone will validate your game plan to help avoid another brick.
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Just to confirm, Can Amazon find out that the device was rooted?
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Yes! This is an excellent resolution to your issue. You will receive a refurbished (not new) replacement that is a one time courtesy exchange. I assumed your warranty has expired as 3rd gen HDX models went out of production last summer.
When the new one arrives be sure to post your intentions. It will likely arrive with FireOS v4 which requires special handling to root and install software (safestrap v4.x) that supports a limited suite of Kitkat based custom roms if that is your desire. Someone will validate your game plan to help avoid another brick.
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Because I also had safestrap recovery and a custom rom on the Fire HDX 7 before it got Hard Bricked. Can Amazon find that out?
hammaad5 said:
Just to confirm, Can Amazon find out that the device was rooted?
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Doesn't matter - Amazon offers a onetime 'no questions asked' exchange during the warranty period. That said, I would not advertise the fact it was anything other than stock. Just say it refused to turn on following an update.
Davey126 said:
Doesn't matter - Amazon offers a onetime 'no questions asked' exchange during the warranty period. That said, I would not advertise the fact it was anything other that stock. Just say it refused to turn on following an update.
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Ok thanks! I'll send the device when I can.
Davey126 said:
I believe both mother and daughter boards are required. Others have reported great difficulty disassembling 7" models due to dense packaging and copious use of glue. Cracked screens are common. Also note the condition/preparation of the replacement components plays a large role on whether the device is ultimately recoverable.
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Well, all risk taken into consideration, it can be done. I'm talking from experience, I bought the motherboard from eBay from a seller from the US and had it shipped in Italy. With a friend, looking at the guide from iFixit was able to successfully replace the Motherboard. Still today the tablet is working fine.
The old motherboard, who is perfectly functional as of hardware, but the software-wise was bricked, was given as a gift to a user here in Xda for further development....
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Yes! This is an excellent resolution to your issue. You will receive a refurbished (not new) replacement that is a one time courtesy exchange. I assumed your warranty has expired as 3rd gen HDX models went out of production last summer.
When the new one arrives be sure to post your intentions. It will likely arrive with FireOS v4 which requires special handling to root and install software (safestrap v4.x) that supports a limited suite of Kitkat based custom roms if that is your desire. Someone will validate your game plan to help avoid another brick.
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Thank God that Amazon sent me a replacement tablet! By the way, I sent them a 16 gb tablet and they gave me 32 gb! I think because they ran out of 16 gb replacements. Yes, it still has a locked bootloader, but it's fine for now. ??