Why is the battery life on MM much better than Nougat? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers

Hello!
I have tried several Nougat ROMs but none of them provide battery life as good as Marshmallow ROMs.
I have directly compare Lineage 13 versus Lineage 14.1 with the same apps installed and similar usage and I always manage to get about 2hrs of screen on time longer with Lineage 13.
I am curious to know why 13 has a better battery life than 14.1. Is it because Nougat is more demanding? Maybe it has more processes running than 13?

I guess so..
By the way, which LOS 13 version did you use mate?

hilmanefef said:
I guess so..
By the way, which LOS 13 version did you use mate?
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I've been using the Lineage 13 by gismoZ (https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/development/rom-lineageos-13-0-t3533744) together with Agni kernel.

I was really expecting some comments from developers. Maybe developers that have worked with Lineage 13 and 14 have a good idea about why the battery life is longer on MM.

To be honest I think nobody cares. Its the development progress. They don't compare that much against old roms. In many points mm ROM is way better then current nougat ROMs but nobody cares. E.g. I miss the system profiles toggle sinced I switched to RR nougat ROMs. Live display or Night mode bugs and multiple names for the same setting. Is there even a MM ROM with recent security patches?

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To be honest I think nobody cares. Its the development progress. They don't compare that much against old roms. In many points mm ROM is way better then current nougat ROMs but nobody cares. E.g. I miss the system profiles toggle sinced I switched to RR nougat ROMs. Live display or Night mode bugs and multiple names for the same setting. Is there even a MM ROM with recent security patches?
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Lineage 13 by gismoZ has the security patch update 05/05/2017 and the battery life is awesome!

mura20 said:
Lineage 13 by gismoZ has the security patch update 05/05/2017 and the battery life is awesome!
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mhhhhhh i cant use lineageOS ... it lacks a lot of features and customizations which i like from RR

Like what? Maybe you can augment it with Xposed etc.

Okay, here's my two cents
Nougat should give you better battery life (technically) since it has all the doze implementations and other things.
Theoretically, it should also give you better performance (which it does) - Nougat performs way better for me.
What you're forgetting is - Nougat (Or LOS 14.1) is still in development so a code change here or there could potentially affect battery life. They're still trying to get a lot of things to work.
LOS 13 - which is derived from CM13 already had a stable release thanks to work done by the guys at CM. Its fast and has great battery backup. Give LOS 14.1 some time and it should be just fine.
I hope this answered your questions.
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mindtrappergr said:
Like what? Maybe you can augment it with Xposed etc.
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Xposed isn't here for Nougat yet

I know but he was quoting a message referencing Lineage 13, so Marshmallow.

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Best Nougat Rom for Leeco Le Max 2?

For a long time i use Resurrection Remix 7.1.3 ROM from andr68rus and i was wondering if there is a better ROM that i can use! The most important to me is a ROM that will give my phone a better battery life but something else that i want is the option to close my phone buttons and use NavBar (that's why I use RR).
So guys if you know which is the best ROM please tell me!
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For a long time i use Resurrection Remix 7.1.3 ROM from andr68rus and i was wondering if there is a better ROM that i can use! The most important to me is a ROM that will give my phone a better battery life but something else that i want is the option to close my phone buttons and use NavBar (that's why I use RR).
So guys if you know which is the best ROM please tell me!
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I'm working with LineageOS 14.1 since last week (2017/08/18) and its works really fine. This is based on Android 7.1.1 so you can download the new adapted Pixel Camera HDR+ in order to improve your Pics.
I hope you find it really helpful.
Regards
Frank!!!
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I'm working with LineageOS 14.1 since last week (2017/08/18) and its works really fine. This is based on Android 7.1.1 so you can download the new adapted Pixel Camera HDR+ in order to improve your Pics.
I hope you find it really helpful.
Regards
Frank!!!
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the infrared works in Lineage??
franksnow said:
I'm working with LineageOS 14.1 since last week (2017/08/18) and its works really fine. This is based on Android 7.1.1 so you can download the new adapted Pixel Camera HDR+ in order to improve your Pics.
I hope you find it really helpful.
Regards
Frank!!!
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Yeah thanks but what about battery life and NavBar?
slim rom... just perfect.
Heyyo, eh that's a tough one tbh. RR is the most feature packed but yeah has battery drain issues...
So I'd say Dark Unicorns for battery life and customization or OmniROM.
Pure Nexus Project is also pretty darn good but it has been a while since I tested it so tbh I'm unsure how battery life is on it.
Andr68rus is supposed to have a new build of Paranoid Android really soon so tbh I'd wait to see what people say about that. Odds are since it's not LOS based like RR Nougat is? It will have better battery life.
Slim is pretty good ...
Atarwel said:
the infrared works in Lineage??
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Not, the infrared dont work.
Best regards
AtomicOS.. full performance with a few touch of customization.. very smooth.. 153K on AnTuTu.. but here the battery is drained at 3.5h of SoT.. AOSP based ROM is the best performance for me..
Atarwel said:
the infrared works in Lineage??
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With Black Screen kernel or disabled selinux it will work.

Best Non-EUI based rom? (ie most stable)

Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said OmniROM instead of Slim. Sorry about that.
Thanks!
EDIT
Alright, I've actually installed Slim. Its superior to SmallEUI in almost every way.
Camera is almost as good as stock, no noticable difference.
Battery life is much more consistant (Expect 4 h 30m of SOT with mixed usage.)
No more crappy EUI RAM management (Its really bad, it treats 6GB of RAM like its 512MB of ram, killling any background processes, including your launcher, forcing frequent redraws)
Slim handles thermals MUCH BETTER than EUI. Way better!
Noticably faster UI, and smoother sustained performance under heavy load.
Nougat!
VoLTE works on T-Mobile US.
Fingerprint sensor works perfectly, and works faster in Slim than EUI, and more accuratly too!
Bug free so far.
And OTA updates!
This is hands down the most stable experience I've seen so far.
Better than Lineage, better than Mokee, and SmallEUI.
Go for this ROM, you won't regret it.
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
Thanks!
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
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It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
LameMonster82 said:
It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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I just haven't come across it but I don't have any problem SOT but I'm not a lot on my phone so I can't say a lot.
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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How is Lineage os in general?
Does gps work fine?
Fingerprint scanner can be fixed easily with a firmware update, so I don't mind that.
How is SOT?
Does camera quality match EUI?
Thanks!
Los if probably my favourite flavour android. RR has more options, though seems slower and more prone to issues (in my experience).
Camera is great. I've installed the Google hdr released camera app though, it's excellent.
Not too sure about sot sorry. Phone is usually around 20% when I finish the day. That's from 6am till say 10pm. I'd say average use for anyone that's on XDA.
This phone has never had good battery for me, except for small eui. But that was at the expense of an unusable rom with no SMS or push notifications working.
Finger print works perfectly.
Heyyo, for most stable? I'd say OmniROM 7 or LineageOS 14.1. They tend to not get the newest changes right away which is good for stability.
OmniROM is unique in the sense that it actually gets certified official builds signed by Google so they do come with SafetyNet Certification. It's the only custom ROM for the LeEco Le Max 2 that gets that.
Hopefully once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 he can get his Mach LeEco kernel working for it and get official signed builds of Paranoid Android as that is the only other ROM that I know of that gets Google signed builds. Tbh I'm really stoked for this as I failed to port his Mach LeEco kernel haha.
Oh, if you plan on using MultiROM? OmniROM play store certification only works if you install it as the internal ROM and not secondary ROM as it mounts the system as writeable. You'd then need to do Magisk plus Universal SafetyNet fix module to spoof the Play Store.
The only downside to OmniROM is Andr68rus has moved onto Oreo development so it probably won't get Le Max 2 specific upgrades but thus far from my testing all Le Max 2 bugs have been squashed much like LineageOS 14.1.
If you want better screen on time with OmniROM or LOS? You can always root with Magisk and then install the AKT Profiles App and use something like Project X.A.N.A. balanced or battery.
If screen on time is your goal though? Slimroms I'd say currently has the best balance of screen on time and performance.
Anywho? Lots to choose from and there isn't really a wrong answer except for say the AOKP or other discontinued ROMs.
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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LineageOS has weekly build updates so it does still receive the Google Monthly Security updates which is nice. It also has a lot more customization options than OmniROM
OmniROM as I mentioned is the only custom ROM for the Le Max 2 with official SafetyNet certification as a main feature. I've also noticed because of it that it's the only ROM I know of where fingerprint unlocking works with stuff like my RBC banking app.
OmniROM tends to not get as many flashy features as LineageOS but it has a few unique ones built into it such as OmniSwitch which is an alternative to the recent apps screen where it slides a small panel from the side of the screen and has the same functionality as recent apps but without the need of exiting your current app.
There's also their open source clock app as another example.
For Le Max 2 specifics? OmniROM has Dolby Atmos built into it for better sound quality and also the LeEco infrared app for using the IR blaster built into this phone so both work out of the box without the need of flashing Magisk Modules or anything like that.
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Thank you!
I will be installing Lineage OS and try it out!
Actually pulled a switcharoo at the last moment. I decided to go with Slim instead of Lineage because Lineage doesn't have VoLTE, and users report various problems with Lineage.
If anyone here is deciding on what to install, go for Slim.
Safetynet+Magisk passes safteynet, and everything is very fast.
UI and interface is really smooth, phone tempratures are much better than stock EUI, and SmallEUI
If gaming performance is your thing, expect a 20-30% increase in FPS than EUI based ROMS.
Battery life is a bit worse than EUI, but its consistent. In SmallEUI SOT would vary from almost 6 hours to as little as 1 hour and 30 minutes. Slim has a consistant 4 hour 30 min with mixed usage (Reddit, Gaming, and YouTube).
And best of all, no more annoying EUI RAM management! I have 6GB of RAM in my phone! Stop treating it like its 512MB and killing all background apps! It even killed Nova Launcher occasionally!
Slim is amazing. Simply amazing. I'm glad I made the switch now, and not later. I love it.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said Omni instead of Slim. Sorry about that everyone.
Yep, tried them all and Omni's the best. Was worried that I'd miss functionality from EUI but everything actually works better. There's no reason at all to stick with stock roms. Do you know does Vulkan work with Omni?

A case of being overwhelmed by choice (ROMs, Kernels, and more)

Hi guys,
I'm a new Poco user. I've checked out the forums and saw lots of ROMs, Kernels and even Recovery software. I'm a bit overwhelmed for the first time as I'm liking stock MIUI 10 for now. Can someone enlighten me on which ROM has the most features, what ROM is the most stable, which kernels go best with which?
Stability: BaikalOS, Pixel Experience
Powersave: BaikalOS
Customizability / Extra Features: Resurrection Remix, crDroid, Havoc-OS / POSP
Performance: Nitrogen OS, crDroid
Pixel Like: Havoc-OS, Pixel Experience
These are the ones I know but haven't tested all of them. Tell me if I'm missing any.
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Stability: BaikalOS, Pixel Experience
Powersave: BaikalOS
Customizability / Extra Features: Resurrection Remix, crDroid, Havoc-OS / POSP
Performance: Nitrogen OS, crDroid
Pixel Like: Havoc-OS, Pixel Experience
These are the ones I know but haven't tested all of them. Tell me if I'm missing any.
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Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
hakkai999 said:
Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
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It doesn't have the app cloning and battery life is a lot better if you manage the background apps strictly but you still have to install it and test it yourself.
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pingufanpoy said:
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
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There is no best rom or best kernel, it all comes down to personal preference...
Lineage Pie with Franco kernel.
..and go with pixel experience only if u r into very stock version which I think is overrated given its customization limitations.
I have always hated chinese ROMs or apps, take MIUI for example they have like hundreds of apps injected into core system (miui security, miui contacts, miui dialer, miui messaging, miui this that and what not...)
pingufanpoy said:
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
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Do you know if Lineage OS has the signal issue fixed on it? I only really moved away from it because of that. Im on crDroid and my signal is much better now
hakkai999 said:
Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
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Hey my fellow filipino , i am flashaholic and i loved cynogenmod until lineage16 very much ..but this im on stock open beta rom 9.1.24 which has Good battery life for gaming because i played a lot , no touch issue ever since day one my poco was one of the initial released manufacturing date was on july ,graphics is so smooth when playing pubg settings are HDR+extreme+60fps.. This rom has been tested very much by me.. by the way it's up to you buddy it's your decision.:good:
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Hey my fellow filipino , i am flashaholic and i loved cynogenmod until lineage16 very much ..but this im on stock open beta rom 9.1.24 which has Good battery life for gaming because i played a lot , no touch issue ever since day one my poco was one of the initial released manufacturing date was on july ,graphics is so smooth when playing pubg settings are HDR+extreme+60fps.. This rom has been tested very much by me.. by the way it's up to you buddy it's your decision.:good:
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Hi fellow Flip! Yeah I went with Ambasidii rom based on stock MIUI since I need the cloned app feature for ROM (Slave priest). It's rooted and has derp kernel. Battery life is quite a lot better. I was redownloading all my apps overnight and it only drained about 7% of battery life which is 1% more than full stock on idle without WiFi.
By the way, do you do a battery recalibration once you switch roms? Standby time is fantastic on mine but it seems to drain a little harder while playing ROM compared to stock.
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By the way, do you do a battery recalibration once you switch roms? Standby time is fantastic on mine but it seems to drain a little harder while playing ROM compared to stock.
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There's no need to recalibrated when switching roms. Recommended calibrating your battery ( each month or every three months )
android phones this days use lithium-ion (Li-ion) or lithium-polymer (Li-po) batteries for Poco F1 . This batteries don’t need to be fully discharged, and come with smart chips that make calibration unnecessary and that's the good thing for us.
Just want to share this method , i do this all the time after switching custom roms.
First, drain your phone’s battery completely. Don’t charge it at any point while it’s draining. Let the phone keep working till it shuts itself off. Once the phone has shut itself off, restart it so it shuts off again. Even though the battery was at 0 percent, it has a few reserves left. Now, while the phone is off, charge it to 100 percent. It’s safe to use quick chargers for this, but make sure you hit 100 percent. Once it’s fully charged, unplug it and boot your phone. Android might not say it’s at 100 percent, and that’s okay. In that case, plug the charger again and let it get to 100 percent. then unplug it. This cycle of full drain and recharging lets the chip calibrate its readings with the battery’s charge cycle.
hope that helps:good:
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Do you know if Lineage OS has the signal issue fixed on it? I only really moved away from it because of that. Im on crDroid and my signal is much better now
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What signal issue exactly? I'm trying Lineage at the moment and using Derp Kernel.
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What signal issue exactly? I'm trying Lineage at the moment and using Derp Kernel.
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This thread here has a good amount of info on it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/cell-signal-worse-custom-rom-t3881912
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This thread here has a good amount of info on it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/cell-signal-worse-custom-rom-t3881912
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Thanks mate!

Best battery optimized rom?

Hello, so far i have tried pixel experience rom and despite battery last is not bad i feel miui made a great job allowing to restrict app energy almost completely with greats battery times. What is your opinion in choosing a rom mainly based on battery time?
PE is the best. Stay on PE
PE is worst ...miui rocks
I think that its's not the rom, it's the kernel. And the daily usage.
And the amount of background-activity apps.
The roms differences are in the level of customization and how frequently they are updated.
Mine for example is AOSiP. But PE and Syberia Project are good too... Also Havoc and Arrow... There are many...
I've tried a few myself, but I keep coming back to RR. It has very decent battery consumption out the box and has an array of tweaks to improve things.
With moderate usage I get a little more than 3 days out of a charge.
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I've tried a few myself, but I keep coming back to RR. It has very decent battery consumption out the box and has an array of tweaks to improve things.
With moderate usage I get a little more than 3 days out of a charge.
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Absolutely agree with him.
For me RR is best. Had been using this Rom for years on many phones in my family.
Tested other roms in between but for me no Rom matched RR.
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Oco said:
Hello, so far i have tried pixel experience rom and despite battery last is not bad i feel miui made a great job allowing to restrict app energy almost completely with greats battery times. What is your opinion in choosing a rom mainly based on battery time?
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If you have rooted your phone, you can use greenify app. Its gonna hibernate your apps when not in use.
You are gonna have great battery time.
For me RR Rom is best.
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Absolutely agree with him.
For me RR is best. Had been using this Rom for years on many phones in my family.
Tested other roms in between but for me no Rom matched RR.
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If you have rooted your phone, you can use greenify app. Its gonna hibernate your apps when not in use.
You are gonna have great battery time.
For me RR Rom is best.
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Thanks, trying RR today and I'll comment.
Yes me too using rr oreo best rom
After 24h of use of RR Pie coming from PE battery life is considerable better, I'll keep using it to confirm this with a same daily use, same apps as i was in PE
The ones that answered RR, are you using Oreo or Pie?
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The ones that answered RR, are you using Oreo or Pie?
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Pie
This is to summary my experience regarding battery comparing to a MIUI in a "office" use all in Pie:
1. Resurrection Remix
2. Pixel Experience
Currently triying AOSP
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Pie
This is to summary my experience regarding battery comparing to a MIUI in a "office" use all in Pie:
1. Resurrection Remix
2. Pixel Experience
Currently triying AOSP
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How was your journey? Did you find RR better than Pe? My battery is aging and just can't go over 4hs of sot in a day just needing good standby , currently naptime by franciscofranco gets the job done pretty well
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How was your journey? Did you find RR better than Pe? My battery is aging and just can't go over 4hs of sot in a day just needing good standby , currently naptime by franciscofranco gets the job done pretty well
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Yes, the order of battery time is as follow without using battery saver which is good but background apps often get closed
1. RR 9
2. AOSEP 9
3. PE 9
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Yes, the order of battery time is as follow without using battery saver which is good but background apps often get closed
1. RR 9
2. AOSEP 9
3. PE 9
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Thank you , from what developer are you using RR?
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Thank you , from what developer are you using RR?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...elopment/9-0-resurrection-remix-v7-0-t3892912
Now I am trying havoc os 2.9 I will give information approximately 1 or 2 days
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Now I am trying havoc os 2.9 I will give information approximately 1 or 2 days
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How do you rank HavocOS battery life compared to others?

What's currently the best CUSTOM ROM for SUZU?

Hey,
I made a mistake earlier this year and lost my keys so my phone lost a lot of features and is pretty damn unstable (I regularly lose access to the fingerprint sensor for example), I want to try a ROM that is overall stable, fast, good battery life ...etc.
I tried OMNI last year and it was okay, but I haven't had the time nor the will to go through the flashing process with Pie only to find most of the things broken and go back to where I started. Also, a working camera is important to me.
TL;DR I'm looking for a stable/usable CUSTOM ROM to use as a DAILY DRIVER on my X Dual.
i have a X DUAL and i test all rom but this rom perfect with dual sim already active
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-xperia-x-t3946180
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i have a X DUAL and i test all rom but this rom perfect with dual sim already active
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-xperia-x-t3946180
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Reading through the description and the comments, it seems to be missing the ability to install GCam as well as crashing with bluetooth and aux!
I've used Cyanogen/Lineage back in the day and I don't have anything to say about the ROM, but it seems that Xperia devices are destined for the garbage after they stop receiving the updates since every ROM is struggling with something on them.
I'll go through the most popular ROMs to help you decide based on your needs. Apart from Stock all these are 9.0 ROMs.
Stock (or stock-based ROMs like Existenz): Stable, all function works like you would expect. Great balance between performance and battery. If it hadn't been for Android 8 and the lack of customizations I would have stayed.
Omni, Paranoid, AOSP: Decent stability and battery life, but very poor performance due to bad kernel optimizations. Gcam fully works.
Lineage 16 by Chippa_a: Decent stability and battery life, but has some minor issues with Bluetooth and stuff. Light gaming is fine, but heavier games will run badly due to horrible CPU throttling. Included camera app is decent, but Gcam does not work at all and simply crashes. If you just want a stable Android 9 with near-stock experience then I recommend this one.
Treble GSIs with Pavel's Kernel: Has the best customizability because of GSIs and stuff. Crashes quite often. Unmatched on gaming, but battery life is horrible and you pretty much need to underclock the CPU on anything outside it. Gcam partially works. No NFC, RAW10 and offline charging.
Treble GSIs with modified AOSP Kernel: Same customizability with the above option. Also crashes quite often. Slightly worse gaming performance than stock, and battery life is also below average, but not at a horrible level. Gcam, NFC and offline charging fully works. Currently my daily driver, with Lineage 16 GSI by AndyYan.
lol paranoid android 7.1.2 is legendary
iH8Ecchi said:
I'll go through the most popular ROMs to help you decide based on your needs. Apart from Stock all these are 9.0 ROMs.
Stock (or stock-based ROMs like Existenz): Stable, all function works like you would expect. Great balance between performance and battery. If it hadn't been for Android 8 and the lack of customizations I would have stayed.
Omni, Paranoid, AOSP: Decent stability and battery life, but very poor performance due to bad kernel optimizations. Gcam fully works.
Lineage 16 by Chippa_a: Decent stability and battery life, but has some minor issues with Bluetooth and stuff. Light gaming is fine, but heavier games will run badly due to horrible CPU throttling. Included camera app is decent, but Gcam does not work at all and simply crashes. If you just want a stable Android 9 with near-stock experience then I recommend this one.
Treble GSIs with Pavel's Kernel: Has the best customizability because of GSIs and stuff. Crashes quite often. Unmatched on gaming, but battery life is horrible and you pretty much need to underclock the CPU on anything outside it. Gcam partially works. No NFC, RAW10 and offline charging.
Treble GSIs with modified AOSP Kernel: Same customizability with the above option. Also crashes quite often. Slightly worse gaming performance than stock, and battery life is also below average, but not at a horrible level. Gcam, NFC and offline charging fully works. Currently my daily driver, with Lineage 16 GSI by AndyYan.
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Thank you SO much for the effort, mate! Unfortunately, I need most of the things that are broken and don't need a much customization. I'd love me some 9.0 or even 10.0 but oh well, you can't have everything.
I'll stick with stock for now, run the phone until it breaks and say goodbye to Sony's phones.
Once again, thank you for your help, and thanks everyone.
0rAX0 said:
Thank you SO much for the effort, mate! Unfortunately, I need most of the things that are broken and don't need a much customization. I'd love me some 9.0 or even 10.0 but oh well, you can't have everything.
I'll stick with stock for now, run the phone until it breaks and say goodbye to Sony's phones.
Once again, thank you for your help, and thanks everyone.
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I just flashed clean PA 7.3.1 and set kernel to performance in kernel auditor app this rom now is f*****g dope! Battery life is really legendary, performance in daily use is great there's no comparison with lineageos 15.1/16 (but anyway thanks to chippa for his work).
Also i flashed magisk selinux manager and set kernel to permissive so apps like Viper4Android, DriveDroid etc work flawlessly.
Xposed works too. What can i say everything is great only camera quallity is worse than on stock but not much worse. I think that PA nougat is the final rom on my X.
heres link: http://paranoidandroid.co/downloads/suzu
I also flashed oreo PA but its freeze on splash screen.
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iH8Ecchi said:
I'll go through the most popular ROMs to help you decide based on your needs. Apart from Stock all these are 9.0 ROMs.
Stock (or stock-based ROMs like Existenz): Stable, all function works like you would expect. Great balance between performance and battery. If it hadn't been for Android 8 and the lack of customizations I would have stayed.
Omni, Paranoid, AOSP: Decent stability and battery life, but very poor performance due to bad kernel optimizations. Gcam fully works.
Lineage 16 by Chippa_a: Decent stability and battery life, but has some minor issues with Bluetooth and stuff. Light gaming is fine, but heavier games will run badly due to horrible CPU throttling. Included camera app is decent, but Gcam does not work at all and simply crashes. If you just want a stable Android 9 with near-stock experience then I recommend this one.
Treble GSIs with Pavel's Kernel: Has the best customizability because of GSIs and stuff. Crashes quite often. Unmatched on gaming, but battery life is horrible and you pretty much need to underclock the CPU on anything outside it. Gcam partially works. No NFC, RAW10 and offline charging.
Treble GSIs with modified AOSP Kernel: Same customizability with the above option. Also crashes quite often. Slightly worse gaming performance than stock, and battery life is also below average, but not at a horrible level. Gcam, NFC and offline charging fully works. Currently my daily driver, with Lineage 16 GSI by AndyYan.
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On PA gcam is not working and performance is way better than on latest lineageos or treble.
Adi_OP said:
On PA gcam is not working and performance is way better than on latest lineageos or treble.
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If you noticed, I only went through the Pie ROMs. Sure, you'll get better options by going back to Nougat/Oreo, but for all the missing features and compromised stability I'd rather stay in stock.
Adi_OP said:
I just flashed clean PA 7.3.1 and set kernel to performance in kernel auditor app this rom now is f*****g dope! Battery life is really legendary, performance in daily use is great there's no comparison with lineageos 15.1/16 (but anyway thanks to chippa for his work).
Also i flashed magisk selinux manager and set kernel to permissive so apps like Viper4Android, DriveDroid etc work flawlessly.
Xposed works too. What can i say everything is great only camera quallity is worse than on stock but not much worse. I think that PA nougat is the final rom on my X.
heres link: http://paranoidandroid.co/downloads/suzu
I also flashed oreo PA but its freeze on splash screen.
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How about fingerprint, does it works?
I personally will use Lineage OS 16..Because Lineage OS is a kinda light if you compare it with stock roms.. Try to give it a shot maybe
Roowz said:
I personally will use Lineage OS 16..Because Lineage OS is a kinda light if you compare it with stock roms.. Try to give it a shot maybe
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Also, it worries just like it is supposed to and rubs on stock kernel, because of this, it delivers more performance.

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