I have had a Oneplus Two for noticeably less than two years and the email below isn't at all good.
Sadly when Helen (Oneplus) clearly stated in June/July 2016 that we would get Nougat it's clear it's not happening according to the email I received below.
Support is obviously for less than two years unlike many other manufacturers. It doesn't instill confidence in Oneplus.
Email reply below:
Alex
Shipmate said:
I have had a Oneplus Two for noticeably less than two years and the email below isn't at all good.
Sadly when Helen (Oneplus) clearly stated in June/July 2016 that we would get Nougat it's clear it's not happening according to the email I received below.
Support is obviously for less than two years unlike many other manufacturers. It doesn't instill confidence in Oneplus.
Email reply below:
Alex
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Alex (OnePlus)
May 29, 20:32 CST
Hi Steven,
A pleasant day to you!
Thank you for reaching OnePlus Customer support.
This is Alex from OnePlus. we greatly , appreciate.
Your time and effort in reaching out to us. Your concern is of utmost importance and I will be helping you out with your ticket. As much as we would like to give the latest update on the OnePlus 2, we've discontinued updates for dated devices.
But we will continue to support the limited warranty for current users and provide updates and support the best way we can even for OnePlus 2 users.
Let me know if this helps.
Best Regards
Alex
It is a shame. it was to be expected, but it still sucks. This is the only reason why I am doubting if I should buy a Oneplus 5 next month. I am really curious to see what will happen with the support for the 3 and 3T.
Oneplus will forgive they had OP3/3T
Enviado desde mi ONE A2003 mediante Tapatalk
Let's take all the community's forces to keep OnePlus 2 up to date.
And then to find out that they are going to be giving the 3T Android O....how nice of them...
With such strong community support, I still don't get the big deal with no official builds. Half the point of getting a oneplus is the community builds.
I have to assume that if you are on XDA, you know how to get a nougat update easy peasy.... Is it just that you can't be bothered to find a rom which is daily driver stable?
TimeTomorrow said:
With such strong community support, I still don't get the big deal with no official builds. Half the point of getting a oneplus is the community builds.
I have to assume that if you are on XDA, you know how to get a nougat update easy peasy.... Is it just that you can't be bothered to find a rom which is daily driver stable?
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I have to disagree, unfortunately.
Being on XDA doesn't mean that everyone can root their device and flash a custom ROM on it. There are exceptions. I had a Nexus 6P for which I did not unlock the boot loader, because my work email will not work on an unlocked, modified device. I had to use it in Stock condition for 6 months, even when the community support is there.
Just because community support is there, it cannot be used as an excuse for the lack of official builds. Not even 10% of the total users of OnePlus2 would know what is meant by rooting. They have paid money and the company needs to provide them updates. Period. No exceptions.
This is pathetic stuff from OnePlus and I'm seriously reconsidering my decision to go for the OnePlus 5 when it comes out.
I was going to buy a Moto X style or play at that time but choose the OnePlus 2...
And now the Moto x play and style got offical nougat and the OnePlus 2 is still here on marshmallow .... ?
TimeTomorrow said:
With such strong community support, I still don't get the big deal with no official builds. Half the point of getting a oneplus is the community builds.
I have to assume that if you are on XDA, you know how to get a nougat update easy peasy.... Is it just that you can't be bothered to find a rom which is daily driver stable?
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Well, the biggest custom rom problems are camera blobs. N camera quality is still worse than OOS quality, even with the HAL3 that we recently got, it still needs imrovements
"No nougat for OnePlus 2"? - fake news
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Alex (OnePlus)
May 29, 20:32 CST
Hi Steven,
A pleasant day to you!
Thank you for reaching OnePlus Customer support.
This is Alex from OnePlus. we greatly , appreciate.
Your time and effort in reaching out to us. Your concern is of utmost importance and I will be helping you out with your ticket. As much as we would like to give the latest update on the OnePlus 2, we've discontinued updates for dated devices.
But we will continue to support the limited warranty for current users and provide updates and support the best way we can even for OnePlus 2 users.
Let me know if this helps.
Best Regards
Alex
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It's not true... I filed a ticket regarding the rumour... Here's the reply I got:
Hitarth (OnePlus)
Jun 4, 18:21 CST
Hi Kalid,
Thank you for your email to OnePlus customer service. My Name is Hitarth and I shall be assisting you out with your query today.
I understand that you have concerns regarding further updates for OnePlus 2. Do not worry I will help you with the relevant information regarding your query.
While I understand your enthusiasm for the update to OnePlus 2. I don't want to be a spoilsport but currently, we have no update on the release dates for further updates as of now. But you will certainly receive updates.
One thing that I can assure you is that the moment we release an update your phone would show up a notification automatically about the update availability and we shall also be posting it on our social media forums for the customer awareness.
I hope the above information is helpful to you.
They just can't tell us the time frame, but they assured that the users WILL get the update at some point.
There may be a difference between receiving updates and getting Nougat...
OnePlus is killing the OP2 from the start. They did not let kernel loose until OP3 appeared. We could not have stable CM and custom roms. Even M was too late and now they do not want to update it N (even two years still have not passed).
Poor support for their flagship device
dejan16v said:
OnePlus is killing the OP2 from the start. They did not let kernel loose until OP3 appeared. We could not have stable CM and custom roms. Even M was too late and now they do not want to update it N (even two years still have not passed).
Poor support for their flagship device
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And the two years weren't even close to passed when Nougat was released by Google
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Many of you are probably annoyed because OnePlus takes very long to release the nougat update. They took very long for the marshmallow update and they promised updates for 2 years from the release of the OnePlus Two. Nougat came out before the ending of this cycle. So a OnePlus Forums user (not me) started a petitionlike thunderclap campaign to show OnePlus and the world that this matter concerns many people. If you support this campaign that would be good for the future of our device and also for OnePlus' update behavior on future and current devices.
Link to the forum thread for further information:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/help-make-oneplus-care-about-its-older-customers-again.512493/
Link to the campaign:
https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/55301-promises-matter-oneplus?locale=en
I still doubt they'll do anything about 2 and X
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I still doubt they'll do anything about 2 and X
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I think the pressure could make them. Some well known android sites already wrote articles about this. And they actually said there will be nougat, but they refuse to publish the release date since a very very long time.
SUPPORTED :good: :good: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
Once galactic stryder started to collected crowd funding to buy a new le max 2 and then also ordered it and then it now arrived because of some issues. Anybody can tell me what happened to the money of yours you donated? And why he is not developing? Just curious to know that!
Heyyo, he posted a while back that he has had stuff going on in life so it was delayed a few months for software development.
Tbh even once he starts it could be a few months before he has a properly working x2 build as he uses his own kernels with some stuff based on Darkobas (Oreo) and I haven't seen anything happening there either... So really who knows when we shall see some AOSPA x2 stuff.
Such is the way with crowdfunding anyways. We funded a device for him and it will take time for things to get done. I know I donated a bunch too but hey I am barely making progress on Oreo but I try with my limited software development skills and time.
He wrote to me that let max 2 "will be supported on our AOSPA 8 from April"
Let's wait for the guy solve his issues. Nobody forced us to donate. I am sure that he didn't run away with the LeMax2 :laugh: Any user should understand that developers are also people with jobs, family, etc. Heck, even to reply to xda Q&A takes time (thanks @ThE_MarD), so it's often to see that there's no answer from the dev to "why torch is not working" question or stuff like that.
Honestly speaking, even without him, the development of X2 is at a very good level by my standards.
I think we should also donate to infrag and all the others who worked really hard to fix the builds for this device.
Thanks to all for info
Let me undersrand it correctly. You bought new phone for some guy in hope he will develop rom, but no news from him, he ran away with new phone. Well there's a sucker born every minute.
giaur said:
Let me undersrand it correctly. You bought new phone for some guy in hope he will develop rom, but no news from him, he ran away with new phone. Well there's a sucker born every minute.
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nope that's not correct bro recently he updated his profile and added le max2 and I can see some commits done in his lambda kernel so everyone cheers and hope for good
giaur said:
Let me undersrand it correctly. You bought new phone for some guy in hope he will develop rom, but no news from him, he ran away with new phone. Well there's a sucker born every minute.
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Forgive me, but it's a sad statement.
Actually, a passionate and skilled guy who did a good job with a very similar phone, offered to work on improving support for this device. I can't event think he needed another underpriced (because of lack of official support from manufacturer, bankrupt) smartphone
giaur said:
Let me undersrand it correctly. You bought new phone for some guy in hope he will develop rom, but no news from him, he ran away with new phone. Well there's a sucker born every minute.
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He is very active kernel dev for Le pro 3, so it wasnt like, hey lets give new phone to random guy.
Hi, sorry for the delay, the phone has reached my door only yesterday, 5 months waiting - or even more - it's good that I have time now to develop and the phone, I just didn't get to XDA those last months so I get the hesitation of all the users when I was off and without the phone; time's passed and as you can see on my Github we have started moving again, wrote all my Kernel script to support the new device on both versions - one Kernel fits all, right? (my LG G2 users should remember that one) - as I'm planning to support stock M versions and the upcoming, if ever coming, N versions of EUI.
The stock Kernel code is a mess just like the one from Pro3 - what did I expect? - so I may time until Saturday to get the vanilla CAF one up and running stable. After that I'll set up my Ryzen machine with another distro, probably BBQ, to compile a more recent version of N or O.
I have just updated to the latest Chinese ROM (X821) to compare the Kernel messages and take some information to merge with my previous work, I'll open a DEVB thread as soon as I get something stable running for EUI users.
Hope that clears out any misunderstandings...
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Hi, sorry for the delay, the phone has reached my door only yesterday, 5 months waiting - or even more - it's good that I have time now to develop and the phone, I just didn't get to XDA those last months so I get the hesitation of all the users when I was off and without the phone; time's passed and as you can see on my Github we have started moving again, wrote all my Kernel script to support the new device on both versions - one Kernel fits all, right? (my LG G2 users should remember that one) - as I'm planning to support stock M versions and the upcoming, if ever coming, N versions of EUI.
The stock Kernel code is a mess just like the one from Pro3 - what did I expect? - so I may time until Saturday to get the vanilla CAF one up and running stable. After that I'll set up my Ryzen machine with another distro, probably BBQ, to compile a more recent version of N or O.
I have just updated to the latest Chinese ROM (X821) to compare the Kernel messages and take some information to merge with my previous work, I'll open a DEVB thread as soon as I get something stable running for EUI users.
Hope that clears out any misunderstandings...
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Thanks for clearing situation
Nice to see you after long break, hope you like yours new device
GalaticStryder said:
Hi, sorry for the delay, the phone has reached my door only yesterday, 5 months waiting - or even more - it's good that I have time now to develop and the phone, I just didn't get to XDA those last months so I get the hesitation of all the users when I was off and without the phone; time's passed and as you can see on my Github we have started moving again, wrote all my Kernel script to support the new device on both versions - one Kernel fits all, right? (my LG G2 users should remember that one) - as I'm planning to support stock M versions and the upcoming, if ever coming, N versions of EUI.
The stock Kernel code is a mess just like the one from Pro3 - what did I expect? - so I may time until Saturday to get the vanilla CAF one up and running stable. After that I'll set up my Ryzen machine with another distro, probably BBQ, to compile a more recent version of N or O.
I have just updated to the latest Chinese ROM (X821) to compare the Kernel messages and take some information to merge with my previous work, I'll open a DEVB thread as soon as I get something stable running for EUI users.
Hope that clears out any misunderstandings...
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Thank you galactic stryder!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75925873&postcount=318
How's software support from manufacturer? Will we be getting regular security patches OTA?
Will it be supported for at least 2 years?
Anybody owned an Oppo phone knows about their history with updates?
Also, is their OS smooth and battery efficient or just horrible?
Thanks for reading
I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I agree with you, you forgot The Lamborghini version At 1699 €. Huawei and recently Xiaomi are already well known and sold in France, paradoxically Oneplus too but not Oppo
I doubt Oppo will break into the European market. big company in Asia certainly but almost unknown in Europe and bad memories of their rotating camera on N1 and N3....
I'm from germany and i think nearly nobody here or in france/spain/italy/netherlands will ever buy this phone at a pricetag of 999€. Nobody knows Oppo so you can impress nobody with your "Noname Phone". If you want to spend that much money you simply buy an iPhone or a S9+.
The Huawei P20 Pro is only selling good at that high pricetag because of the telekom, o2 and vodafone with a contract. So you have to pay 1-300€ to get the device. An Oppo without contract is nearly impossible to sell.
Thanks guys for your replies.
ColorOS in Oppo Find 7 days were always a year behind. For instance, Android was at version 4.4 Kitkat and yet Find 7 was released with 4.3 Jelly Bean. It's true that Oppo had continued to support it for 3 years, but remember at that third year, Android was at 6.0.1 Marshmallow and yet Find 7's latest final release was Project Something OS which is 5.1 Lollipop.
For people that doesn't necessarily understand how to root, TWRP, or flash custom ROMs, something will go wrong during this process because none of those updates are OTA nor recommended by service centers.
Should something ever go wrong, Oppo official service centers will give you its original 4.3 Jellybean that does not even support unified partition of any kind.
Until this day, June 2018, people still asks me: "What kind a phone is that? The camera is amazing."
The camera is still amazing even for 2018. Unfortunately, Oppo is very bad at releasing software updates. For that department, Oneplus is the better sister company but its camera & audio is not as good as Oppo's.
I was told that if you want good audio, VIVO seems to be the better sister company but I haven't paid much attention to its camera & software update support. I hope this helps.
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
To be honest Find 7 support was bad but also typical when considering it's contemporaries. At its introduction there was no monthly security update even for Nexus devices, it didn't exist. A whole bunch of OEMs were going to make you wait quite some time for updates and there would not be many. If they offer support similar to their contemporaries today as they did then it's going to be much better than it was for the Find 7.
Let's face it though; we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Lol.
I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Twitter is the best way
I have the Oppo Find 7; bought it in 2014. If I had to use one word to describe the official software support, its 'frustrating'. The software on the phone was always 2 versions behind the latest one every year. It was released with Jelly bean 4.3 and around that time 5.0 was just around the corner. It took them 2-2.5 years to release an Android 5.1 ROM. Every major update from Oppo required the users to factory reset the device and it was very difficult for a layman to perform these flashes every time a new ROM was released. All the official ROMs released were beta - Color OS 2.1 Beta, Spectrum 1.1 Beta etc. Usually you'll find tons of custom ROMs from third party developers from China devs but flashing them on the international version of the phone bricked the device. All of the oppo community was very active in reporting bugs and flashing ROMs, but the official supporters soon closed the community website and all other oppo forums as they couldn't keep up with the updates and bug fixes. Officially the Find 7 got 7 ColorOS ROMS (2.0.0, 2.0.4, 2.0.5, 2.0.7, 2.0.8, 2.1.0, 2.1.5 from 4.4 to 5.1) and all were Beta releases. All of them had at least one or more major bugs. ColorOS isn't user friendly and takes a lot of time to get used to, its a very bad attempt to copy iOS on iPhones. The only good part of the OS might be the camera.
I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all. You do bring up a good point though; a person should be prepared and willing to stay on the release software for some time. I myself will want to know who is going to be developing, or if there will be any at all. I'm fine with Oreo but I'm going to need an unlocked bootloader/magisk. As to their launcher, yeah, it's junk. Easily fixed at the play store however; I know I'll have my beloved Action Launcher on there in about 5 minutes. Assuming I buy of course, a lot of questions to be answered first.
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I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all..
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completly agreed
So basically unless we get custom roms for this phone - stay away.
I wouldn't go that far, if the bootloader is unlocked and you're good hanging on the delivered firmware it might still be a go. I would be as long as it's possible to enable double tap to wake, I hate having to swipe. The software itself was not that bad with the find 7, it was the craptacular launcher that hurt the stock experience.
All that said if a good developer picks one up and starts development that would make a buy decision easier to make.
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I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
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I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
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Based on Snapdragon 845 so there shall be no problem I guess.
2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
I've had a few Oppo phones, and like others have said here, the biggest problem is software update speed. Their issue is that they use ColorOS, which is a heavy skin on the phone. They tapered it back some recently, but it still ends up making them delay updates because they have to do so much on their end.
The phones are always solid, high-quality phones. They just care too much about how the phone looks, rather than how current it is.
I have a NEX from China, and it was pretty simple to add Google services working flawlessly.
I assume same will be for FIND X which i have pre-ordered already should get it by 18th July.
I wrote an email to the chief technical officer of ZTE and asked if development for the Axon 7 is still ongoing. Here is a screenshot of the answer.
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
MishaalRahman said:
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
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Pm for now to avoid possible email spamming.
As for all the others who read this, here is a little more explanation:
He is the technical chief officer of zte and stands in direct contact with the dev team. He is also the reason we got the zip for disabling system write protection in the first place. Without him i wouldn't have gotten the update.zip (with disabled system write protection) and @raystef66 couldn't have made a flashable zip for us.
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Volte works on Oreo china
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE should work on any of the big Oreo ROMs. WFC is hit or miss (even on stock ROM). I'm assuming Oreo is gonna be the last android version we can install and still have these things work (unless some dev out there finds a way to get past this roadblock in the future). Either way, I kinda doubt ZTE would provide any further updates for us beyond Oreo. I'm assuming that the response given in the OP meant that they would fix everything that's still broken and missing on 8.0; not begin development for Pie (especially since the Axon 10 is just around the corner, pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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It is if ZTE expect some form of customer loyalty on future purchase decisions. Would you buy the Axon 10/11/12 etc. based on your Axon 7 experience? Yes they had disruptions from trade sanctions etc. but that's not the consumers fault and imo ZTE should be doing everything they can to restore faith in their brand.
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE nd Wifi calling wok fine for me on ZTE's Oreo B20.
RobboW said:
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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The vendor partition stuff is something else entirely. Some people believed that ZTE would bring Treble support to the Axon while that made very little sense (Treble is a requirement for phones that SHIP with Oreo and above, but it's optional for Oreo, and its main advantage is it makes it easier for OEMs to update major Android versions). It was developed by djkuz and NFound eventually anyways, but only because of the generic ROM benefits
I don't think you can simply slap Android One certification on the middle of a product's life, but even if they could, it would make absolutely zero sense for them... Why be commited to security updates and newer Android versions on a phone that has surely stopped giving any revenue since long ago? Plus I'm not even sure if people prefer stock Android to stuff like One UI where you have a bunch of options
Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Marshmallow and Nougat were perfectly stable, if not the chinese versions. i'd say that counts.
The important thing is them fixing Daydream because it doesn't only entail adding daydream back, to run it properly you need to have thermals and the kernel properly tuned. Daydream should put the phone at ~1.3 GHz but I believe they'll have to mess around to make it work as intended anyways
plus all this is useful for LOS
Marshmallow and Nougat had a very bad design and UI because of mifavor. Oreo is nice but extremly unstable.
dodo34 said:
Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
gpz1100 said:
What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
gpz1100 said:
Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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All I'm saying is, @GodOfPsychos contacted this ZTE guy, he said that an update was going to be released, and then XDA'S EDITOR IN CHIEF contacted that guy and got the same response (with which an article was made). They can bail at any time, but it's not like they are promising Pie anyways
I'm guessing you can't see the attached screenie in the OP? I can see it just fine from XDA Labs
We won't get official Android Pie for Axon 7.
The most I read into that is update to include cut out features like Daydream, probably a security update too. Just a finish of what Oreo 8.0 was supposed to be. I don't think we will even see official Oreo 8.1
If they had just kept with the whole "best sounding phone" idea I'd probably already have bought another ZTE. It was the thing that distinguished them in the crowded market of samey-same phones. At this point I'm clinging to my Axon 7 with my tight little hands, and any update to its stability will be appreciated. [Full disclosure, I'm running the GSI Liquid Remix unofficial build of Pie, but if they do update the official Oreo and get it rock solid, I could see downgrading just to be on an official ROM.]
OnePlus has numerous models (like my Nord N10) that are still waiting for Android 11. Other models have beta versions of Android 12, but OnePlus has wholly and completely botched their rollout of Android 11.
I'm sure that THOUSANDS of OnePlus users would gladly pay for a stable ROM.
Would love to see Pixel Experience or Lineage take the lead on this!
mkeaton1967 said:
OnePlus has numerous models (like my Nord N10) that are still waiting for Android 11. Other models have beta versions of Android 12, but OnePlus has wholly and completely botched their rollout of Android 11.
I'm sure that THOUSANDS of OnePlus users would gladly pay for a stable ROM.
Would love to see Pixel Experience or Lineage take the lead on this!
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No doubt mate, I would definitely pay for a Lineage ROM...
I mean, I even contacted the OP support team showing them how pissed and disappointed I am due to the lack of OxygenOS support for the N10, but they answered with a completely generic and useless email...
However, there's already a Pixel Experience ROM for OP N10: https://download.pixelexperience.org/billie
But I dunno, isn't Pixel Experience way more Google-dependent than OxygenOS? I usually avoid Google stuff.
EDIT: Well yea, I just noticed that ROM was discontinued, my bad.
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No doubt mate, I would definitely pay for a Lineage ROM...
I mean, I even contacted the OP support team showing them how pissed and disappointed I am due to the lack of OxygenOS support for the N10, but they answered with a completely generic and useless email...
However, there's already a Pixel Experience ROM for OP N10: https://download.pixelexperience.org/billie
But I dunno, isn't Pixel Experience way more Google-dependent than OxygenOS? I usually avoid Google stuff.
EDIT: Well yea, I just noticed that ROM was discontinued, my bad.
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Appreciate your feedback. It’s a chicken or the egg conundrum.
I’ve shared feedback directly with both Lineage and Pixel Exp that there is an opportunity here. Some twerp moderating the Lineage forum (not a developer) sent me a grumpy reply saying “read the forum rules you can’t ask for a ROM for your phone”. I explained to the dummy that I’m not talking about just my phone, rather it is a huge opportunity for nearly every model of OnePlus phones.
We need to help folks at Lineage or Pixel Exp understand that yes these custom ROM projects are things they work on for fun — but that they are also supported thru DONATIONS. So, consider developing ROMs for models where there are known customer dissatisfaction issues. Maybe even require a minimum donation of $15 or $25 if you have published a stable ROM that you are committed to for ongoing support.
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Appreciate your feedback. It’s a chicken or the egg conundrum.
I’ve shared feedback directly with both Lineage and Pixel Exp that there is an opportunity here. Some twerp moderating the Lineage forum (not a developer) sent me a grumpy reply saying “read the forum rules you can’t ask for a ROM for your phone”. I explained to the dummy that I’m not talking about just my phone, rather it is a huge opportunity for nearly every model of OnePlus phones.
We need to help folks at Lineage or Pixel Exp understand that yes these custom ROM projects are things they work on for fun — but that they are also supported thru DONATIONS. So, consider developing ROMs for models where there are known customer dissatisfaction issues. Maybe even require a minimum donation of $15 or $25 if you have published a stable ROM that you are committed to for ongoing support.
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I think many developers build and develop custom ROMs in order to practice or just to have fun, not for money. What I think you're proposing is turning what is a fun hobby for many of the developers into a sort of job, which I think is a little unreasonable. This is probably the point where most developers would stop having fun and cease development altogether. I think letting developers pick whatever devices they want to develop for would be for the best. The only thing we can do is wait or send a device their way in hopes that they pick up development. Also, there are already Pixel Experience and LineageOS ROMs for the N10(I'm using Pixel Experience right now and it's pretty stable). If you're feeling extra adventurous, there is a guide to flash GSIs from the GitHub Wiki here.
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I think many developers build and develop custom ROMs in order to practice or just to have fun, not for money. What I think you're proposing is turning what is a fun hobby for many of the developers into a sort of job, which I think is a little unreasonable. This is probably the point where most developers would stop having fun and cease development altogether. I think letting developers pick whatever devices they want to develop for would be for the best. The only thing we can do is wait or send a device their way in hopes that they pick up development. Also, there are already Pixel Experience and LineageOS ROMs for the N10(I'm using Pixel Experience right now and it's pretty stable). If you're feeling extra adventurous, there is a guide to flash GSIs from the GitHub Wiki here.
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Thanks for sharing your point of view. Agreed 100% that these are volunteers who don’t do it for money. Just pointing out that there’s an opportunity for both because of how OnePlus has handled the rollout of Android 11. The OnePlus 9 is part of the Android 12 Beta, but the N10 and other models are still waiting for Android 11.
My goal is just to create awareness of an issue. Given that most custom ROM developers focus on a couple of phone models, they might not be aware of the issues that OnePlus has had. Someone can still be a custom ROM developer on the side for the fun of it, but at the same time pick devices where there is a need. It might increase donations — a way to subsidize the fun.
I held off on installing Pixel or Lineage on my N10 because both mention issues with adaptive brightness — didn’t know if that meant that brightness was randomly changing or if that means it just doesn’t adapt and stays at whatever you have it set on.
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Thanks for sharing your point of view. Agreed 100% that these are volunteers who don’t do it for money. Just pointing out that there’s an opportunity for both because of how OnePlus has handled the rollout of Android 11. The OnePlus 9 is part of the Android 12 Beta, but the N10 and other models are still waiting for Android 11.
My goal is just to create awareness of an issue. Given that most custom ROM developers focus on a couple of phone models, they might not be aware of the issues that OnePlus has had. Someone can still be a custom ROM developer on the side for the fun of it, but at the same time pick devices where there is a need. It might increase donations — a way to subsidize the fun.
I held off on installing Pixel or Lineage on my N10 because both mention issues with adaptive brightness — didn’t know if that meant that brightness was randomly changing or if that means it just doesn’t adapt and stays at whatever you have it set on.
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Thanks for the calm discussion. From your perspective, I can see how looking at all of these OnePlus devices and their lack of recent updates has created a huge void that could be easily filled with custom ROMs. The N10 is no exception; only 1 major android update and that's it, which is obviously a big bummer. I think some developers are aware, but might just be waiting for the "promised" updates to actually occur, slow as they are. I personally think the slow deveopment progress of the N10 relative to other OnePlus devices is most likely because this phone is on the more boring side, and most people have marked it off as budget garbage. Concerning Pixel and Lineage: auto brightness just doesn't work at all, and other than DT2W , both are pretty stable(as indicated by my last post).
I love you both