Ugoos AM3 - "mother of ports" for S912 devices review - Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers

Recently I got fresh S912 TV Box called Ugoos AM3.
Nice price and coupon make me buy this device. The other reason is numerous amount of firmware ports for other s912 TV Boxes with same SoC. Seems like Ugoos made a great work on software, so I decided to check it.
Ugoos AM3 on official website
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Technical specs:
CPU Octa-core ARM Cortex-A53 (DVFS)
GPU ARM Mali-T820MP3
SDRAM DDR3 2GB
Flash 16GB EMMC
Network IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4GHz / 5.0GHz
WIFI Module LTM8830
Equipment and appearance
Ugoos AM3 shipped in a white carton box. There is a brand logo on the top with model name and official support website.
Down there we can find tech specs and supported audio video info list.
Inside the box: power supply, removable Wi-Fi antenna, IR remote, HDMI cable and English instruction.
Box itself is not so big as Minix U9-H, it has average sizes by today’s standards: 117x117x18.5cm. Weight 294g.
Housing made of silumin, covered with soft touch matte plastic. On the front there is a small window for IR-receiver and LED indicator a little bit higher. During playback, LED turns blue and becomes red on standby.
Right side: heatsink holes and Wi Fi antenna connector.
Left side: 2 USB ports and, micro SD slot.
Behind: we can find power supply port, S/PDIF, LAN, HDMI OUT and one more USB port.
Down cover, there are a row of heatsink holes and rubber legs. Near the sticker from the right there is a hole which leads to a recovery button. Down cower fixed on its place by four screws.
Remote controller use IR interface and uses power of two AAA batteries (wasn’t in the box)
Power adaptor with European socket has 5 Volts and 2 Amperes
Device Disassembling
It is very simple to disassemble device. Unscrew 4 screws and lid can be opened.
Then a PCBA can be replaced.
PCBA has average size, closer to a bigger series, has CX-A12_v1.0 modification dated 09.19.2016. In the middle of the PCB there is a “screen” which holds most of the PCBA and cover processor and ROM. With thermos gasket “screen” connected with a small heat sink. Heat sink connected with upper cover via another two thermos gaskets. Also there is a WI FI antenna socket soldered to PCBA. Using a screwdriver, we very carefully pick the “screen” from each side and replace it.
Amlogic S912 SoC connected with heat sink via thin thermos gasket. Heat sinking works not bad, further device tests will confirm this. This side of PCBA there are also two Samsung chips. RAM based on eMMC KLMAG2WEPD-B031 made by Samsung, memory type – MLC (the same memory we can find in TV Boxes by Zidoo model names x9s and x10). Ethernet controller is Realtek RTL8211F. Wi FI controlled by LTM8830.
“Bug” or “Feature”?
During external HDD connected to TV Box (in my case there is an external HDD 3Q 500GB) we can see that TV Box turns off, looks like because of not enough power of standard power adaptor, so for those who wants to use external HDD I would like to recommend using more powerful adaptors. However, the question is not about this: if we add power for HDD, surprisingly I found out that TV Box can normally use the power from USB, where HDD 3Q connected. Notice one thing: no need to use standard pover adaptor after. So if you forget power adapter somewhere or had lost it, no need sorry about this, you always can power on TV Box using USB.
Firmware and OC, Root
We can talk a lot and with grace about firmware, because installed one on this device is a “father” of ports for many other boxes based on S912 Soc. AM3 Tv Box kernel used in devices of following producers: Beelink, Sunvell, Tanix etc. Only this can be a high mark of firmware quality. However let’s start from the beginning…
This Box has Android OC 6.0.1 version. This is a final version of this firmware on that SoC. Soon there is a news about stable Android 7.1 version stable release.
Many users, who choose Chinese TV Boxes, complain about Chinese programmers who works on firmwares. Ugoos team choose another way: European programmer team works on firmwares and updates.
As I said before in my review, on this TV Box works under Android 6.0.1. Firmware can be updated both locally and via OTA. But while current update there was incident: when you choose online update, server reports error: Check Failed! Check your OTA Server Agent.
Latest firmware dated to release of this review is 1.0.0. Android version is 6.0.1.
As a home screen (launcher) system uses Ugoos Launcher. I want to note fact that it is rather convenient to operate using PC mouse. Mouse Scroll switches categories in menu. But you always can choose another launcher, there are no any software limits for this
File browser
File browser is a standard app for that kind of devices, Ugoos didn’t show anything new.
Lower navigation bar can be hided. If panel hided, it can be easily showed up, just need to drag from any bottom side of the screen with mouse. Upper status bar automatically covered, it also can appeared using mouse.
Localization for English and Russian market is on the high level. Even a menu tab dedicated to Auto frame rate function translated correctly.
In Default settings “ROOT” access disabled, but you can activate it very easily.
Unique Ugoos software has special “features” – they are “Hardware control”, using it you can check device temperature, processor frequency, processor load, RAM load, LAN performance.
In the list of “features”, you can find Samba Server and Gamepad Settings.
Pressing off TV Box you can check one of four menu tabs.
Ugoos programmers even translate turn off tab in TV Box, seems like they work on firmware very carefully.
Remote Controller and HDMI CEC
RC is pretty small and ergonomic in hand. Weight without batteries about 43g.
Switching features are standard for that kind of device. RC have no gyroscope, so for those users who like to operate using aeromouse need to buy it.
HDMI CEC function works correctly.
Performance and device testing
Device based on Amlogic S912 SoC – 4 cores ARM Cortex-A53 up to 1.5 Ghz + 4 ARM Cortex-A53 up to 1 Ghz, GPU ARM Mali – T820MP3. This SoC is in a middle price level, but exactable for game performance (for recourse “hungry” 3D games is a good idea to put settings on middle level or looking for alternative option like Nvidia Shield).
System works very fast, no lags, no freezes or discomfort. Animation is very smooth.
All performance tests provided with 1920x1080 (fullHD) resolution.
A1 SD Bench
CPU-Z
AnTuTu 6.0
Geekbench 4
GFXBench
Bonsai
After all these tests we checked device temperature both using CPU temperature software and contactless thermometer UNI-T UT300S
CPU Temperature shows average 45 degrees
UNI-T UT300S
Audio formats support and audio out
If you don’t want to run into audio decoding things, just use KODI with default settings or MX Player (with additional decoders) in HW+ or HW modes with software audio decoding. In that case getting stereo with any video and sources guaranteed.
For other I can tell how it is going with HDMI and S/PDIF audio output.
Video source formats support and video out.
TV Box has HDMI 2.0a out supports video out rate resolution: [email protected] Ghz (10 bit per channel) and HDR, if TV screen can support can support that settings.
First, let’s talk about decoding.
Box easily handles with H.264 decoding. I checked 55 mb/sec bitrate and 1920x1080 resolution (max video bitrate for Blue-ray is 48mb/sec). No problems with Stagefright and Mediacodec libraries. Generic player, MX Player, KODI decode without any drops. Content was delivering over Wi Fi. Box can handle with any BD Remix and BDRip.
Max video bitrate on Ultra HD Blu-ray (4K) is 128 mbit/sec. In order to teat HEVC/ H.265 Main 10 I used list of files from 50 to 140 mbit/sec. MX Player can work with 140 mbit/sec flow (over Ethernet). No drops. Kodi handle with flow up to 100 mbit/sec without drops (over Ethernet). Over Wi Fi satisfying level was about 70 mbit/sec. In addition, I checked true 50p and 60p output. “fake” double frames I didn’t found, box trully showed 50 fps and 60 fps.
Autoframerate
Outoframerate works in each video player that uses Stagefright library. For example, generic player or MX player (HW). Content also matters. Autoframerate works with each sources/files, except HLS (HTTP Live streaming). But in KODI 17.1 Autoframerate unfortunately disabled.
HD VideoBox and Torrent Stream Controller.
Via using these apps, Ugoos AM3 shows stable and smooth performance without problems.
YouTube
No problems with playback, autoframerate disabled.
Web camera support for video conferences
My web camera Logitec HD Pro Webcam C525 works as it should – both sound and video. Skype and Hangout video chats work just fine.
Conclusion:
Surely AM3 is interesting TV Box – wonderful metal housing, excellent firmware with autoframerate from the box, stable device performance with stock firmware, absence of so called “green parts” gives a really good feeling about device. But, as always there is a “pig” among the “sheep”.
Online update error, disabled autoframerate in HLS sources and KODI 17.1 give a sign about small software bugs.
But the way of firmware realization gives us strong hope about next updates without those pesky “bugs”.
SoC S912 has no DTS/Dolby Digital support unlike its elder “brother” S912-H, but it is not a lack, but a request for producer to pay attention to major processor models with H addition.

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Zenithink C91 Android 4.0 Capacitive Tablet 10.2 inch

Does anyone know if this is a good product? I WOULD LIKE TO BUY ONE BUT AFRAID THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR IT AND NO DEVELOPMENT. IT LOOKS NICE WITH ICS AND PRICE IS NOT BAD.
Its selling for $199.00 and i was wonder if this is a good deal since all of the other 10 inch tablets are $400 and up in price.
Kindly let me know.
Thanks
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SPECS:Highlights
CPU: ARM cortex A9 @ 1GHz
512MB DDR2 RAM + 8GB Nand Fast Flash
10.2 inches remarkably crisp and high-definition responsive capacitive multi-touch screen, resolution 1024*600
Powered by Android 4.0 OS, enjoy thousands of free games from offical android market.
View HD photos, movies, web pages, books and more.
Built-in Four-Way G-sensor, it's designed to show off everything in portrait and landscape, so with every turn (even upside down), the display adjusts to fit.
1080P HDMI Output
Enjoy 3D Games and HD video playback with it.
View flash content online, such as YouTube or BBC iPlayer.
Supports USB 3G modem GPRS/3G/3.5G/HSDPA.
Built-in 2MP camera. Support Skype Video Chat
4400mAh Li-on battery, supports continuous working with Wi-Fi on up to 4 hours.
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General
Operating System: Google Android 4.0 ICS
Model: Zenithink C91
Announced: 2011-08-2
Product Type: Tablet PC
Keyboard: Touch Screen
Display Technology: Capacitive touch screen
Screen Size: 10.2 inch
Max Resolution: 1024*600
CPU Type: ARMv7A/R
CPU Manufacturer: ARM CORTEX
CPU Model: ARM CORTEX
CPU Speed: 1GHz
RAM / Technology: DDR2
RAM Installed Size: 512MB
Hard Drive Type: NAND FAST FLASH
Hard Drive Capacity: 8GB
PCMCIA Expansion: Micro SD / T-FLASH(Support 32G MAX)
Camera: 2MP
HDMI: 1080P
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G-Sensor: Four way
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Language: Multi-language support
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Ports: 1 x Mini USB
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1 x Earphone jack
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Wireless Connection: WIFI
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Picture: JPG/BMP/PNG/GIF
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I just picked up the zt282 c91 upgrade from crashzilla computing on amazon. Excellent tab! $198 with shipping. You can get the same thing at F&L Superstore as well as accessories too. Very responsive, very fast. I look at it as the giant brother to my Evo 4g!
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I 'm using this tablet for almost 10 months. once it's configured as you want, it works as designed.
On the couch browsing, facebook twitter, email, wordfeud no problem
camera suks if there is no bright light.
it's worth every dollar/euro
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Mike
My nephew is looking for a tablet and after a good search the Zenithink C91's look like the best thing available for his budget. He would play a lot of flash games and I was wondering does flash work well on them - I know flash should work on ICS, but is it stable enough and does it make the tablet run very hot?
rjand said:
My nephew is looking for a tablet and after a good search the Zenithink C91's look like the best thing available for his budget. He would play a lot of flash games and I was wondering does flash work well on them - I know flash should work on ICS, but is it stable enough and does it make the tablet run very hot?
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We have had this tablet since last christmas and it has been great for our 7 year old and well worth the money. Just one thing, Flash doesnt work great on kids games like Moshi Monsters etc. So if this is your main reason for buying , you might have to think again.

8.4 to HDMI to Flat screen ?

Hello all
I apologize that I might not have all of this right, but I was looking to go from my 8.4 Pro Tablet to a HDMI input on my Flat Screen so I could watch stuff on that.
From what I have seen, there is a adapter from Samsung that will go from what is called a MHL to HDMI, which then with a HDMI patch cable I'll then plug into the Flat Screen, an will see what ever is on the tablet.
Have seen that there was a 1.0, then 2.0, then 3.0 versions of this adapter from Samsung, but from what it looks like, there is only the 2.0 & 3.0 being furnished now.
So is the 8.4 compatible with either the 2.0 or 3.0 adapter?
If it is with the 2.0 one, would it also work the 3.0 too, an if so, should I go with that one, or is it just money wasted?
Basically have tried to find specs on the 8.4 that states it has MHL capabilities, but as well if it is, which version it is?
Basically want to know too, the main reason I want to do this is that they offer NFL Game Pass on the mobile stuff, an I was just hoping I could plug in the 8.4 to the TV, an what the games, even with the right cable, does anyone know if that will work?
Thanks for any help.
MHL 3.0 should support resolutions up to 4k and it should work with the 8.4, however MHL can be tricky since root and custom roms can break support (some protected content might not work ), and be really careful when purchasing MHL adapters since about 90% are fake Chinese knockoffs, it is very hard to tell if it is a genuine one, playback should be smooth and you should get 30~Fps in 4k Video and 60 Fps 1080p, Chinese versions are usually like 30fps @ 1080p and the quality is pretty bad or laggy, build quality might be less (like misaligned parts, lighter weight), they tend to overheat too making connection drop-but again very hard to tell - you can try going on to Samsung live help and checking the serial/model number usually they will tell if its real or not.
MHL 2.0 is for resolutions up to [email protected]
also MHL 2.0 can only feed back 500mA~1A back to the tablet, so the battery on the tablet might still drain faster then it can charge.
I have not tested MHL 3.0 on my device, but from my reading the Snapdragon 800 should be MHL 3.0 compatible, and MHL 3.0 can supposedly feed 10W(2A) back to the device for charging- as long as Samsung kept everything in spec it should work. - It's up to you if you want to risk it not being compatible, but the up-side is MHL3.0 is backwards compatible with MHL 2.0 so it will just fall back to 1080p if not fully supported.
Though you might want to consider using Screen Mirroring instead- I usually use that more then my MHL adapter since it's quick and easy to use, just enable wireless display / Screen Mirroring on the tablet (even works with custom roms), and connect to the TV (I have a Mid-range Samsung TV so wireless display is already built in, but for other tv's you might need a Chromecast/MiraCast or similar to connect) - then you can play a video / game ..etc - no wires needed -the only downside is if wifi is unstable it can disconnect that can be annoying. (also you can be connected to your router and connected to the TV at the same time-so you can use the internet still-usually doesn't require the tv to be on the same network either since it's using "wifi direct". although this can probably vary among different Chromecast devices / TVs.)-Check you tv as it might have support already.

USB-C to HDMI ?

I've tried a few USB-C docks/adapters in the office but can't seem to get an hdmi out from any of them
Any one else have success with getting wired hdmi out?
Not supported from what I've heard
jonathonalexander said:
Not supported from what I've heard
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I've tried Samsung's Galaxy S8 usb-c to HDMI adapter and no dice
Read that Samsung ended MHL support on their devices since S6. However, the new S8 introduced support for DisplayPort Alternate Mode, which allows direct connectivity to projectors and TVs. Hopefully the same applies to Tab S3, anybody can ascertain?
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ShoonMcgregor said:
I've tried a few USB-C docks/adapters in the office but can't seem to get an hdmi out from any of them
Any one else have success with getting wired hdmi out?
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My Samsung Tab A 10.1 SM-T580 doesn't support MHL via HDMI adapter. However, I'm able to use Quick Connect to connect to a HDMI wireless adapter.
For Smart TV, you don't need adapter, just use Quick Connect to stream the display to your TV.
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What kind of a crazy Backwards step is this? A pretty expensive flagship device that cannot even output to HDMI by cable.
I'd be pretty sure the device could easily support it, it just needed to be implemented for crying out loud.
What is it with Samsung and removing features for no good reason? :silly:
Good job Google have more sense, thank God for Chromecast.
Beut said:
My Samsung Tab A 10.1 SM-T580 doesn't support MHL via HDMI adapter. However, I'm able to use Quick Connect to connect to a HDMI wireless adapter.
For Smart TV, you don't need adapter, just use Quick Connect to stream the display to your TV.
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Just got this device , tried connecting to my second gen chromecast and boy i was shocked that even after a factory reset quick connect was unable to find the device. So i got the google home app and connected tab s3 to my chromecast. I was dissapointed that my hp monitor cannot change the 4:3 cast video input . So anyone who is buying this tab please be aware of these limitations. Hopefully samsung can provide us software update to use usbc to hdmi.
Lack of HDMI support is my biggest issue with it. I would use it for work presentations if there was some way of connecting to hdmi or vga, really surprised it doesn't do the former somehow. Fine as a home device but not great for work. Shame as apart from that it's excellent.
ewans said:
Lack of HDMI support is my biggest issue with it. I would use it for work presentations if there was some way of connecting to hdmi or vga, really surprised it doesn't do the former somehow. Fine as a home device but not great for work. Shame as apart from that it's excellent.
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Actually Samsung eliminate wire connection ( wired HDL ) in recent models, but you can use Quick Connect to Screen Mirror to a TV.
I have no problem to screen mirror two different Tab As, SM-T550 and SM-T580 to a TV via wireless HDMI adapter.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00050649/
Smart TVs already have Screen Mirror, so there is no need adapter when using Quick Connect.
Beut said:
Actually Samsung eliminate wire connection ( wired HDL ) in recent models, but you can use Quick Connect to Screen Mirror to a TV.
I have no problem to screen mirror two different Tab As, SM-T550 and SM-T580 to a TV via wireless HDMI adapter.
Smart TVs already have Screen Mirror, so there is no need adapter when using Quick Connect.
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Quick connect will not be as fast as a direct cable , a HDMI support would have been wonderful​ in all sense. This is a loss in the end.
chilipichintu said:
Quick connect will not be as fast as a direct cable , a HDMI support would have been wonderful​ in all sense. This is a loss in the end.
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It's not about speed for me, it's the fact i go and see a lot of customers and they have projectors with VGA or HDMI - no chance of a wireless connection.
ewans said:
It's not about speed for me, it's the fact i go and see a lot of customers and they have projectors with VGA or HDMI - no chance of a wireless connection.
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Well you could always take a Chromecast with you for HDMI. Works well for my Projector.
ashyx said:
Well you could always take a Chromecast with you for HDMI. Works well for my Projector.
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I've done that before at home and yes it works fine, but do you need to connect the Chromecast to a wireless network, or can you use it via a direct connection? I often don't have wifi access on client sites.
ewans said:
I've done that before at home and yes it works fine, but do you need to connect the Chromecast to a wireless network, or can you use it via a direct connection? I often don't have wifi access on client sites.
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Pretty much every mobile device nowadays with mobile network capabilities has the ability to create a hotspot, which is all you would need.
ashyx said:
Pretty much every mobile device nowadays with mobile network capabilities has the ability to create a hotspot, which is all you would need.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't have the luxury of time at the start of a presentation. It's so much quicker to just plug in a cable, so I'll continue to carry a laptop.
ewans said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't have the luxury of time at the start of a presentation. It's so much quicker to just plug in a cable, so I'll continue to carry a laptop.
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But surely if the chromecast is already setup, I. E. configured with Wifi name and password already for the hotspot, all that is required is plug the chromecast in and turn on hotspot? No other setup required.
It's only a one time setup. It's what I do.
I'd say it would be quicker than connecting a cable as it literally takes seconds for a chromecast to connect.
I want the same: output my tablet screen on a hdmi output.
My research results in 2 options: first the already mentioned chromecast (which must have an internet connection to use) and second a Miracast adapter.
Miracast doesn't need an Internet connection as it spans its own wifi direct connection between the miracast adapter and the tablet.
Does anyone have experiences with a miracast stick like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Miracast-Foxcesd-Wireless-Streaming/dp/B01N2KGHY6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
If this would work it will be a good option for me.
Miracast, WiDi, and Microsoft's Wireless Display Adaptor
Hey! So I came across this post as I myself was considering buying a Tab S3 to replace my Tab S2, and I also have the exact same needs you describe. I have been using Miracast to avoid using long cables for presentations etc. and the best alternative to an HDMI/MHL cable adaptor (apparently not supported on the Tab S3) is the "Microsoft Wireless Display Adaptor", there are two versions of this, the "V1" and the "V2", I have used both and they are both great, the only major difference is that the newer "V2" version is half a second faster on input lag/delay but in both of these it is under a second so perfect for streaming up to 1080p videos with audio, presentations, etc. (maybe not for gaming but I don't game). The only issue is that when you cast a screen you cannot change the aspect ratio at all, but that is an Android issue and not Samsung's as it happens with all devices, given the Tab S2 and S3 are 4:3 screen ration they will always cast in that ratio which will look slightly odd on 16:9 TV's and projectors. However, for video casting there is a way around this, if once you are casting the screen (you'll see it as 4:3) and you decide to play a 16:9 video on the tab using either the built in Samsung Video Player or VLC it will suddenly turn your tablets screen black and cast the video in true 16:9 aspect ratio only on the Screen you are mirroring to (whether it is the Microsoft adaptor or an integrated Miracast one on the TV), it will still pop up the video controls on your tablet's black screen when you touch it but not the video, for me this is a near perfect solution, I'd rather the Android operating system would adapt the screen ratio with Miracast but I can understand why it is difficult to do as on one of the screens it would have to look distorted, when I do need the 16:9 aspect ratio I use my phone (Galaxy S7). The bonus of the Microsoft Display Adaptor is that it will also support WiDi which is Intel's Wireless Display technology very similar if not the same as Miracast but for Windows based laptops with Intel Hardware, both an Intel processor and an Intel WiFi Card. This works in Windows 7 if you download the software from Intel and is already integrated into Windows 10 on the tools on the right hand corner when you click on "connect" it will already show you the Microsoft Adaptor as a screen to connect to, the advantage on windows is that you can actually extend the wireless display to be a second monitor and drag what you need to the second screen whilst having other things happening on your laptop's screen. I know it is a long explanation, but I have been chasing this technology for the last 3 or 4 years as a way to get rid of cables and it works quite well by simply purchasing this little adaptor for my laptop, tablet, and phone, as long as all of these support either Intel's Wireless Display or Miracast.
Hope this helps
hurray said:
I want the same: output my tablet screen on a hdmi output.
My research results in 2 options: first the already mentioned chromecast (which must have an internet connection to use) and second a Miracast adapter.
Miracast doesn't need an Internet connection as it spans its own wifi direct connection between the miracast adapter and the tablet.
Does anyone have experiences with a miracast stick like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Miracast-Foxcesd-Wireless-Streaming/dp/B01N2KGHY6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
If this would work it will be a good option for me.
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ewans said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't have the luxury of time at the start of a presentation. It's so much quicker to just plug in a cable, so I'll continue to carry a laptop.
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Hey! So I came across this post as I myself was considering buying a Tab S3 to replace my Tab S2, and I also have the exact same needs you describe. I have been using Miracast to avoid using long cables for presentations etc. and the best alternative to an HDMI/MHL cable adaptor (apparently not supported on the Tab S3) is the "Microsoft Wireless Display Adaptor", there are two versions of this, the "V1" and the "V2", I have used both and they are both great, the only major difference is that the newer "V2" version is half a second faster on input lag/delay but in both of these it is under a second so perfect for streaming up to 1080p videos with audio, presentations, etc. (maybe not for gaming but I don't game). The only issue is that when you cast a screen you cannot change the aspect ratio at all, but that is an Android issue and not Samsung's as it happens with all devices, given the Tab S2 and S3 are 4:3 screen ration they will always cast in that ratio which will look slightly odd on 16:9 TV's and projectors. However, for video casting there is a way around this, if once you are casting the screen (you'll see it as 4:3) and you decide to play a 16:9 video on the tab using either the built in Samsung Video Player or VLC it will suddenly turn your tablets screen black and cast the video in true 16:9 aspect ratio only on the Screen you are mirroring to (whether it is the Microsoft adaptor or an integrated Miracast one on the TV), it will still pop up the video controls on your tablet's black screen when you touch it but not the video, for me this is a near perfect solution, I'd rather the Android operating system would adapt the screen ratio with Miracast but I can understand why it is difficult to do as on one of the screens it would have to look distorted, when I do need the 16:9 aspect ratio I use my phone (Galaxy S7). The bonus of the Microsoft Display Adaptor is that it will also support WiDi which is Intel's Wireless Display technology very similar if not the same as Miracast but for Windows based laptops with Intel Hardware, both an Intel processor and an Intel WiFi Card. This works in Windows 7 if you download the software from Intel and is already integrated into Windows 10 on the tools on the right hand corner when you click on "connect" it will already show you the Microsoft Adaptor as a screen to connect to, the advantage on windows is that you can actually extend the wireless display to be a second monitor and drag what you need to the second screen whilst having other things happening on your laptop's screen. I know it is a long explanation, but I have been chasing this technology for the last 3 or 4 years as a way to get rid of cables and it works quite well by simply purchasing this little adaptor for my laptop, tablet, and phone, as long as all of these support either Intel's Wireless Display or Miracast.
Hope this helps
pachi24igger said:
Hey! So I came across this post as I myself was considering buying a Tab S3 to replace my Tab S2, and I also have the exact same needs you describe. I have been using Miracast to avoid using long cables for presentations etc. and the best alternative to an HDMI/MHL cable adaptor (apparently not supported on the Tab S3) is the "Microsoft Wireless Display Adaptor", there are two versions of this, the "V1" and the "V2", I have used both and they are both great, the only major difference is that the newer "V2" version is half a second faster on input lag/delay but in both of these it is under a second so perfect for streaming up to 1080p videos with audio, presentations, etc. (maybe not for gaming but I don't game). The only issue is that when you cast a screen you cannot change the aspect ratio at all, but that is an Android issue and not Samsung's as it happens with all devices, given the Tab S2 and S3 are 4:3 screen ration they will always cast in that ratio which will look slightly odd on 16:9 TV's and projectors. However, for video casting there is a way around this, if once you are casting the screen (you'll see it as 4:3) and you decide to play a 16:9 video on the tab using either the built in Samsung Video Player or VLC it will suddenly turn your tablets screen black and cast the video in true 16:9 aspect ratio only on the Screen you are mirroring to (whether it is the Microsoft adaptor or an integrated Miracast one on the TV), it will still pop up the video controls on your tablet's black screen when you touch it but not the video, for me this is a near perfect solution, I'd rather the Android operating system would adapt the screen ratio with Miracast but I can understand why it is difficult to do as on one of the screens it would have to look distorted, when I do need the 16:9 aspect ratio I use my phone (Galaxy S7). The bonus of the Microsoft Display Adaptor is that it will also support WiDi which is Intel's Wireless Display technology very similar if not the same as Miracast but for Windows based laptops with Intel Hardware, both an Intel processor and an Intel WiFi Card. This works in Windows 7 if you download the software from Intel and is already integrated into Windows 10 on the tools on the right hand corner when you click on "connect" it will already show you the Microsoft Adaptor as a screen to connect to, the advantage on windows is that you can actually extend the wireless display to be a second monitor and drag what you need to the second screen whilst having other things happening on your laptop's screen. I know it is a long explanation, but I have been chasing this technology for the last 3 or 4 years as a way to get rid of cables and it works quite well by simply purchasing this little adaptor for my laptop, tablet, and phone, as long as all of these support either Intel's Wireless Display or Miracast.
Hope this helps
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Hey! So I came across this post as I myself was considering buying a Tab S3 to replace my Tab S2, and I also have the exact same needs you describe. I have been using Miracast to avoid using long cables for presentations etc. and the best alternative to an HDMI/MHL cable adaptor (apparently not supported on the Tab S3) is the "Microsoft Wireless Display Adaptor", there are two versions of this, the "V1" and the "V2", I have used both and they are both great, the only major difference is that the newer "V2" version is half a second faster on input lag/delay but in both of these it is under a second so perfect for streaming up to 1080p videos with audio, presentations, etc. (maybe not for gaming but I don't game). The only issue is that when you cast a screen you cannot change the aspect ratio at all, but that is an Android issue and not Samsung's as it happens with all devices, given the Tab S2 and S3 are 4:3 screen ration they will always cast in that ratio which will look slightly odd on 16:9 TV's and projectors. However, for video casting there is a way around this, if once you are casting the screen (you'll see it as 4:3) and you decide to play a 16:9 video on the tab using either the built in Samsung Video Player or VLC it will suddenly turn your tablets screen black and cast the video in true 16:9 aspect ratio only on the Screen you are mirroring to (whether it is the Microsoft adaptor or an integrated Miracast one on the TV), it will still pop up the video controls on your tablet's black screen when you touch it but not the video, for me this is a near perfect solution, I'd rather the Android operating system would adapt the screen ratio with Miracast but I can understand why it is difficult to do as on one of the screens it would have to look distorted, when I do need the 16:9 aspect ratio I use my phone (Galaxy S7). The bonus of the Microsoft Display Adaptor is that it will also support WiDi which is Intel's Wireless Display technology very similar if not the same as Miracast but for Windows based laptops with Intel Hardware, both an Intel processor and an Intel WiFi Card. This works in Windows 7 if you download the software from Intel and is already integrated into Windows 10 on the tools on the right hand corner when you click on "connect" it will already show you the Microsoft Adaptor as a screen to connect to, the advantage on windows is that you can actually extend the wireless display to be a second monitor and drag what you need to the second screen whilst having other things happening on your laptop's screen. I know it is a long explanation, but I have been chasing this technology for the last 3 or 4 years as a way to get rid of cables and it works quite well by simply purchasing this little adaptor for my laptop, tablet, and phone, as long as all of these support either Intel's Wireless Display or Miracast.
Hope this helps
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Holy eye attack.
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Haha, man this thread has gone way off-topic - yes there are many wireless display solutions but it appears the tab s3 is hobbled from providing video out over usb-c from our testing.
We've tried 4 different USB-C docks/adapters/etc in our lab to get wired hdmi (1080p monitors) and none of them have worked. Our Galaxy S8/+, however, outputs 1080p with these same adapters just fine

In-depth review of the Remix IO

I posted my in-depth review of the Remix IO (AKA. Remix X1) in the Android General Section of this forum.
Please read it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/jide-remix-x1-review-tv-box-mini-pc-t3652386
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According to StatCounter, Android OS officially overtook Windows as the world’s most popular operating system in April, 2017. While Android’s dominance in the smartphone and tablet industries grows, its market share in the desktop PC world is still less than 1%. Jide Technology, a company which was founded by three ex-Google engineers in 2014, has been working on “unlocking the potential of Android and accelerating a new age of computing”, at least that’s what their slogan says. The key to that vision is the Remix OS, an Android-based operating system designed to work like a desktop OS.
Although Jide and its Remix OS have gained quite a number of fans with products such as the Ultra Tablet and Remix Mini, many are still confused about what kind of convenience the Remix OS can really bring to their daily life. While being the most versatile Android-based tablet, the Ultra Tablet is heavier and pricier than many more competent Core-M powered Windows convertibles. The Remix Mini is compact, affordable, but powered by a low-end SoC., the performance is somewhat disappointing.
The newly released Remix X1 is designed to replace the Remix Mini, a device that did not achieve the kind of market success Jide had strived for. Will the Remix X1 bring some game-changing features that will finally make it a hit? Or is it just a regular upgrade of its predecessor? I will try to answer these questions in this review.
Package
Inside the box you will find a Mini PC, a charger with three different plugs, a remote, and a pair of dry cells.
Design and Build
Compared to the Remix Mini, the X1 looks much more like a Mini PC. It is larger, heavier, offers more ports. For some, the X1 may be less aesthetically pleasing than the Mini because it has sharper edges and more abrupt lines.
There are a slew of ports and slots on the device. The left side plays host to two full USB 2.0 ports, while the right side hosts a VGA port.
On the back side you will find a charging port, an HDMI port, a MicroSD card slot, two full USB 2.0 ports as well as a 3.5mm audio jack. 4 USB outputs are definitely a nice improvement over the Mini’s 2, but unfortunately they are still USB 2.0 standard, and cannot deliver the USB 3.0 speed many of us are used to nowadays.
On the top side of the device you will find a Jide Logo and, finally, a physical power button. I have been a user of the Mini for more than a year now, and I was constantly driven mad by the invisible capacitive power button on it. It gives no feedback, the only way to know whether your touch gets registered is by looking at the screen.
Although the plastic shell does give the device a plasticky feel, the build quality is still good. It doesn’t have any ugly mold lines on its surface, and feels like it could survive some pressure and even occasional drops. Unlike the fanless design of the Remix Mini and other Android-based TV boxes, the X1 actually has a fan inside to control the temperature of the internals.
Setting it up
Like all PCs, the Remix X1 needs to be paired with a screen and input devices. You can connect the X1 with a monitor or an HDTV with a VGA or an HDMI cable, with a mouse and a keyboard in place and you are good to go.
The X1 will automatically boot itself when you plug the wall charger into a socket. Quite odd given that it already has a physical power button now. Jide claims that the auto-boot is a result of the settings of the Rockchip SoC. and is a shared by many other TV boxes running on Rockchip processors. Unlike the Mini, the X1 can support 4K resolution (3840*2160), and will offer better visuals on UHD displays.
Remix OS 3.0
At the heart of this X1 is Jide’s all new Remix OS. Just like we mentioned at the beginning of this article, the Remix OS is an Android-based operating system designed to work like a desktop OS. The version X1 ships with is the Remix 3.0, which is based on Android M (Android 6.0). Compared to the Android 5.1-based Remix 2.0, this is definitely an upgrade. However, it still lags behind the smartphone industry, as most phones are now running Android 7.0 Nougat.
For those who have never used or even heard of the Remix OS, it is definitely not your average Android experience. In fact, it looks so different that you cannot even relate it to Android until you run Android applications on it. The Remix OS 3.0 comes with 2 modes: PC mode and TV mode. In TV mode, you will get a TV BOX UI which works perfectly with the stock remote. In PC mode, you will get a UI that is designed to be worked with a mouse and a keyboard.
All apps installed from the TV Appstore will automatically show up on the TV mode UI. You can handily use the remote to open and control these applications. You can watch the latest videos on YouTube, or your favorite TV shows on Netflix and Hulu.
In PC mode, you will get a taskbar similar to the one on Windows 10. On the left side of the taskbar you will also get an icon to open the application drawer. All apps (except those exclusive to the TV mode) will show up in the app drawer and you can rank them by name, time of installation and usage. You can also click the search icon to search for the applications you have in mind.
Besides the icon of the application drawer are the three classic Android keys: Back, Home and Multi-tasking, you can use them to control the running applications. Clicking on “Back” and the OS will return to the last screen, clicking on “Home” and all running applications will be minimized (while the icons stay in the taskbar), clicking on multi-tasking and you will get the shortcuts for all running applications and the two modes which Remix OS 3.0 offers.
On the right side of the taskbar you will get many settings, including Memory-cleanup, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Input, Time and Date and Notification Center. The Memory-Cleanup shortcut will help you to close all applications running in the background (only the one app running on top will stay once you click the “Memory Cleanup” button).
The Notification Center looks like the one on Windows 10, all notifications and alerts will show up here, and applications normally shown in the pull-down menu of your smartphone UI will also be found here. Besides, you also get 5 icons, including DND mode, positioning switch, autohide the taskbar, Screenshot and Settings.
What really makes Remix OS special is its ability to run multiple apps in windows. You can browse through Emails, chat on Skype and watch a movie simultaneously. You will feel like you are using Windows 10 instead of Android.
Thanks to the keyboard shortcuts and right-click menus the Remix OS offers, the X1 feels much more productive than your average smartphones and tablets. You can copy texts from the webpages and instantly paste them into the input boxes of your Email app or social networking apps. All apps running in windows can be resized according to the user’s personal preferences.
The X1 is preinstalled with Kodi, which works as the media center. Not only does it take care of local media contents (browsing pics, playing music and videos), you can also enable add-ons to stream music and videos online.
Remix OS 3.0 also allows users to clone apps, you just need to enable it in the experimental features inside the settings. If you have multiple accounts on one social network, this feature will be extremely useful.
When it comes to real productivity tasks such as editing documents and photos, the X1 is still no match for its Windows counterparts. You can do some simple editing with applications such as WPS Office as well as Android versions of Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint, but it is by no means as efficient as working on a real PC. There are far fewer things that you can do as the Android versions of Office Suites only offer some of the basic functions, and performing the same task may take much more time on the X1 than on your average Windows PCs. I tried to edit my presentation with WPS Office on the X1 once, the awkwardness and low efficiency made me dying to switch to my desktop PC.
During my 1-month of reviewing the X1, I found that I was doing media-consuming most of the time, thanks to the countless music and video streaming apps Android offers. But I did occasionally post stuff on my social media accounts. Whenever I finished watching a movie, I instantly gave my rating on IMDB. Then I took a screenshot of the IMDB page and shared it on Facebook, Wechat and Twitter. The multi-windows function of the Remix OS makes it possible for me to update all social media accounts at the exact same time.
Although Remix OS 3.0 is based on a new version of Android (Android 6.0), I didn’t really see any significant improvement from Remix 2.0. Yes, I have noticed that there is now a full-screen icon on the application running in windows mode, and that the notification center has a white background. I have also noticed some more experimental features in the settings. But none of these changes is cool enough to make my life much easier. Jide has two years to bring some game-changing features to the Remix OS, unfortunately that just didn’t happen.
Performance
The Remix X1 is powered by a Rockchip RK3368 processor, which has octa-core Cortex A53 CPU clocked at 1.2Ghz and a PowerVR G6112 GPU. Released in 2015, this SoC. is by no means one of the most powerful ARM-based processors. There is also 2GB DDR3 RAM on board to take care of multi-tasking.
Compared to the Remix Mini, the X1 is significantly faster, but it still lags behind your average Android smartphones and tablets.
Like usual, we ran some benchmarks on the X1. The Antutu benchmark returned a score of 33,992, which ranks below most entry-level smartphones.
In the Geekbench test, the X1 scored 1241, which is also nowhere near the average of mainstream smartphones and tablets.
We always say that benchmarks are one thing, real-world performance is another. Fortunately for the X1, the benchmark scores did not entirely translate into real-life usage. The X1 remained sloppy and responsive most of the time, although I did notice that installing an app took significantly longer than on my flagship smartphones. It also took more time for bigger applications and games to load on the X1. When there were too many applications running on the desktop, the system became less responsive. Personally, I think Jide should have put more RAM into the X1 to make it more capable of handling multi-tasking, since that is what Remix OS is all about.
Connectivity
The X1 offers many connectivity options. It supports 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band Wi-Fi, and the Wireless connection is very solid, as well. There’s also Bluetooth 4.0 on board to take care of local data transfer and connecting audio and input devices. Bluetooth connection is so much more stable on the X1 than on the Remix Mini. While Mini was unable to connect with some of my Bluetooth speakers placed more about 5 meters away, the X1 had no such problems.
The X1 only has 16GB internal storage, but it offers a Micro SD card slot and as many as 4 full USB 2.0 Type-A ports, making it easier for users to connect to multiple external storages. I have my 64GB Transcend Micro SD card inserted and it works like a charm. Although the USB 2.0 ports could not offer the same level of speed the USB3.X ports are able to offer, it isn’t really that noticeable when you just play videos or music from the external storages.
A VGA port and an HDMI output make it possible for users to connect the X1 with a wide range of monitors, projectors and HDTVs. But unfortunately you can't output the X1 graphics to a monitor and a TV at the same time.
Verdict
Despite its issues and imperfections, the Remix X1 is still arguably the best Android Mini PC out there. Fairly speaking, it doesn’t really have many competitions.
Although it is cool to see an Android-based device working like a desktop PC, I am still having a hard time trying to figure out which type of customers the X1 is marketing towards. According to Jide, the Remix OS will be mainly targeting business users from now on. But unfortunately, the X1 is still no match for an average Windows desktop PC or laptop when it comes to business tasks, and the number of applications which really work ideally with a mouse and a keyboard is still relatively small. For the majority of users, Android is more used for media consumption and entertainment purposes, no matter how much you make it look and feel like Windows.
The X1 is a very competent and affordable HTPC which can handily replace all Android-based TV boxes. But if you want a device that can replace your PC for productivity tasks, you won’t be satisfied with the X1.
Jide has nearly two years to make an amazing product out of the X1, but somehow they ended up releasing only a regular upgrade of the Remix Mini. There were indeed some improvements, both on the hardware and software fronts, but with only 2GB of RAM, 16GB internal storage, a dated processor and the still relatively small Remix ecosystem, the X1 just is less promising than we expected it to be.
I'd like to know how and where you got this Remix IO unit (or the X1) for your written review. Last I checked, Jide dropped the bomb on all its supporters last month
Is this for real? Either this is a preview unit from months ago or Jide are extracting the urine.
That's all fine and dandy, but the only thing I care about is getting an ISO or at least a backup the system partition.
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I'd like to know how and where you got this Remix IO unit (or the X1) for your written review. Last I checked, Jide dropped the bomb on all its supporters last month
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thanks for the info
Really nice!
Is it possible to buy the X1 directly from Jide?
I emailed them with the same question, I hope they'll sell one to me
I still use my Remix Mini to this day and would love to upgrade it.
Too bad they cancelled the Remix IO kickstarter since I backed it and wanted a Remix IO+ so bad.
Any more info on how to get one in any way?
Kind regards
well, the company is still recruiting people, what r they up to?

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