I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
dev_ant said:
I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
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Try Lineage AEX, RR, AICP (last three are official)
minor bugs are there: yello flash light, slow motion camera not working but lightweight faster AOSP stick rom.
I have not tried yet Slim (official) also better!
Every custom ROM will give you bugs and a decrease in camera quality.
You can try a debloated version of MIUI from xiaomi.eu with a custom launcher like Nova.
Here is how it looks my phone
I had the same reservation about switching to a Miui phone.
However, I run stock Miui rom with Nova Launcher and could not be happier.
Stock rom provides stability and no deterioration to camera, Nova provides stock Android experience.
My personal experience suggests that no custom built rom is bug free. Try to use the rom provided originally by the manufacturer and modify it to suit to your needs by changing the launcher. I toggle between Google and Nova launcher as per mood. However you need to suitable turn on the auto wake functions for some widgets like the digital clock (need to download separately), notification badges etc.
Yes I do wish that Xiaomi should give the option of choosing either a stock android rom or its Miui rom. My personal preference would be the simple, but effective stock android rom (I base this on the experience of Moto g3 I had previously. In retrospect I am amazed the way motorola has integrated the software and hardware so effectively. Despite of high ram and octa core processor, I am disappointed by the software + hardware performance of the note 4, even my wife complains about the software and speed of the MI Max she has after shifting from the Moto X Play)
Problem like yellow flash, slow motion DOES exist on MIUI rom...
The latest stable MIUI rom is very problematic for so many users, many find gps sucks, battery sucks, device lags, etc after the update...
I never got this issue when using AospExt, LOS or PA.
for me... MIUI sucks, period...
I would not buy xiaomi device if there is no option for other ROMs like LOS, RR, PA, etc...
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bugs? seriously ? I have like 0 bug with LOS
And try using google camera instead
i have to agree, tried a lot of roms, most of them have mobile data problems to me (not working) now im on miui 9 and erased a lot of crap, and it works great, battery is amazing, im getting every notification so no problem there, and camera is working fast. in custom roms camera is terrible to be honest,
dev_ant said:
I'm in a dilemma between Moto G4 Plus and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4.
In every single detail I like Redmi Note 4 better except for camera and Software. The camera difference is not an issue for me but software is.
1. Moto provides stock android which I love very much due to its simplicity and stability.
2. I find MIUI annoying.
So, I'd like to know if there is a stable ROM that can give me stock android experience on Redmi Note 4. If there is such a ROM,
1. How stable is it? Can it be at par with the software experience stock android on Moto G provides?
2. Performance of the ROM compared to factory
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I used Moto G before and really love vanilla android provided by Motorola. The moment I got my RN4, I try to adapt with MIUI. However, I'm getting a lot of gps issues while using it. I end up switching to Slim rom which give me almost the same experience that I had with my old Moto G.
Plus note, no gps issue when using Slim rom. Working as expected.
The advantage of redmi note4x is that it's a good battery. The battery capacity of 4000 mah is very large. And the qualcomm snapdragon 625 processor is a 14nm process, so the heating life is really strong. But there are drawbacks: the camera and the level of photography are not mediocre; Screen quality is general. Using long eyes can make you feel uncomfortable. I don't know if that's the case, but at least my phone is. Finally, the MIUI system is very bloated. If you like native android, I suggest you buy the MOTO. But note4x is a cost-effective option
schlagg said:
bugs? seriously ? I have like 0 bug with LOS
And try using google camera instead
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So you are on a rom which doesn't have yellow flash problem?
Ekril said:
So you are on a rom which doesn't have yellow flash problem?
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Its not a bug for me.
I'm not focused on this. Photos and videos quality are sufficient for an occasional use.
gedggd said:
i have to agree, tried a lot of roms, most of them have mobile data problems to me (not working) now im on miui 9 and erased a lot of crap, and it works great, battery is amazing, im getting every notification so no problem there, and camera is working fast. in custom roms camera is terrible to be honest,
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How do you get every notifications?
I clean flashed the last global rom and I have feeling, that I still dont get all the notifications instantly.
Whatsapp/Messenger works, but apps like eBay, forums etc. seem not to work every time.
Have you made any changes to apps, or you made some battery saver modifications or something?
chorba69 said:
How do you get every notifications?
I clean flashed the last global rom and I have feeling, that I still dont get all the notifications instantly.
Whatsapp/Messenger works, but apps like eBay, forums etc. seem not to work every time.
Have you made any changes to apps, or you made some battery saver modifications or something?
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well i wiped everything, then flashed miui9 latest beta, rooted, installed titaniub backup, deleted all the miui crap, like mi cloud, mi account, and so on.. and im using it right now, i dont feel like im missing notifications (im not using ebay app or forum apps...), battery is great, im happy
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Hi all,
Since December I'm using a Redmi Note 2 Prime. I like the phone, but not a fan of Miui.
I tried one of the CM roms on here a few months ago, which was a big improvement in user experience for me. Only the poor image quality and slow focus speed was a big let down.
Is there any non-miui rom out there that equals the stock miui camera's image quality and focus speed?
Try the AOSP from vova.vafin. It is based on AOSP and has the Mediatek Camera so you won't lose any photo quality..
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Try the AOSP from vova.vafin. It is based on AOSP and has the Mediatek Camera so you won't lose any photo quality..
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Any link for the rom?
Sent from my Redmi Note 2 using Tapatalk
aristaeus said:
Any link for the rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-2/development/aosp-vova-vafin-t3315147
The photo quality will be the same, BUT You lose PDAF focus..
@tonydeli7; thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look at the thread.
@galakty; hmm.. that's a shame. I really love the near-instant focus, crucial to capture my 2- and 4-year-old.
You can try MultiRom or Xiaomi.eu or Smiui(based on xiaomi.eu with a few tweaks)
All customs ROMs based on MIUI Stable/Developer but without Chinese bloat...and the same quality camera as stock!
tonydeli7 said:
You can try MultiRom or Xiaomi.eu or Smiui(based on xiaomi.eu with a few tweaks)
All customs ROMs based on MIUI Stable/Developer but without Chinese bloat...and the same quality camera as stock!
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Hi Tony, already running xiaomi.eu from day 1, but do not enjoy using Miui one bit.
Still can't find anything in the Settings menu. (Rant on: Why the h×ll are half the SIM settings hidden away under 'Privacy' in 'Additional Settings'? Why are the most used settings hidden under 'Additional Settings' as well? Why is Wireless Display' hidden under 'More' in ' Network', instead of 'Display'? Why do the pull-down notifications and power toggles take up 2 full HD screens, and still need scrolling to reach all toggles? Why can't I delete never used toggles? Rant off)
The list goes on, but generally I need to swipe & tap twice as much to get things done compared to Aosp or Cm.
The CM roms haven't made any progress regarding camera, and probably won't for the forseable future. I had a go at sMiui yesterday, but despite trimming most unused Miui stuff it used an extra 250MB compared to regular Miui (might be an error on my side though). Will try vova.vafin's Aosp rom tonight. See how I like the camera and overall user experience/stability.
I can say I'm on the same boat because I prefer AOSP..but until Xiaomi releases the kernel source,we will not have one that works like on Nexus phones. There is a trick to run the original android settings but they don't fully work :/
The ROM from vova.vafin is AOSP based on CM I think but he uses libraries from the MIUI for the camera. And also he is not using the stock camera but a camera named Mediatek Camera that is specially made for phones/tablets running MTK processors. I used it for one day just to test, the battery was almost close to stock and I didn't notice any change in camera quality. You might give it a try
Yeah, running the rom since early this evening, just doing the final tweaks in gravity box. So far it's looking good.
i've tried many roms, camera quality almost the same at all roms
tonydeli7 said:
Try the AOSP from vova.vafin. It is based on AOSP and has the Mediatek Camera so you won't lose any photo quality..
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I agree. Rom with best camera quality, except of course miui, right now, is vova's.
The BEST camera for sure.
Is this possible to port it at bules rom? Or just extract it and make it work somewhere else????
miui 6.4.14 with better camera
Miui of course has the best camera. We talk for custom roms here....
Just a question. I've been using my RN4 for cca. 2 months now and I am really impressed with the device.
My question is; Why would you flash an AOSP/CM/whatever ROM, if MIUI works without problems and the device's speed is really great too?
My last device was LG G2, and there was a big difference in terms of speed between Stock LG ROM (all the stupid apps) and CM, but here, I dont know if you would get that much on speed.
Also, that "free" MIUI cloud backup is great, camera with those effects is cool too. I've not encountered a single problem with my stock/not rooted RN4 (Snapdragon).
There are other cool MIUI features, which are not in other AOSP/CM ROMs included. (maybe in RessurectionRemix but still)
What are your thoughts about this one?
Is there a big difference in speed, camera, battery between stock/not rooted and rooted CM/AOSP ROM?
for me its how they handle notification and multitasking. Too agressive with killing apps. No one finger expand. Outdated emoji support. If they fix all that i'd gladly switch back to MIUI
Imho the UI sucks.
Because MIUI just ****s up the material design, doesn't regard the default notification in AOSP, have aggressive memory management and **** cheetah apps disguised as normal system apps.
If I have to give two reasons for using custom ROM:
1. Overall look and feel of material design
2. Notification handling in AOSP Nougat, it is the most
beautiful thing ever happened to Android.
In the end its users choice whether to stick to stock ROM or flash custom ROM depending on their experience.
Oh XDA censors curse words!!
Cuz their ui is cancerous xD
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Cuz there ui is cancerous xD
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are aops roms stable anyway?
I use Resurrection ROM 5.8.3 and it is rock-stable. But RR is Lineage-OS-based, not AOSP.
My reason to use a Custom-ROM: with MIUI I can't use my Samsung Gear Fit 2. The Gear-App doesn't start in all MIUI-based ROMs. With AOSP/LineageOS-ROMs no problems.
Miui has lots of bugs that take forever to be fixed.
I think Miui is a way of Xiaomi to spy on users....
MIUI have a lot of spyware in their bloatware apps. Which I don't like.
MIUI is like pre-GraceUX Touchwiz.
Lots of interesting features but not polished, and there's no consistency across the whole UI.
For the free cloud backup, Google's Drive and Photos are better in my opinion, you can sync your contacts and messages as well.
As for the camera, I'm happy with the Camera2API on AOSP ROMs.
Because if you also have an iPhone you don't need MIUI ?
Kidding aside, there's a lot of reasons why AOSP is better than MIUI and there's a lot of reasons why MIUI is better than AOSP.
I personally prefer AOSP (Slim 7 specifically) because of it's speed and general lack of complications.
I don't like being asked by the SMS app if I'd like to send my SMSs to the Xiaomi servers, or my pictures, or every time I'd use some app that used the internet to be forced to accept some privacy policy.
I want Android, clean, no bull$$1t. That's where Slim won my heart. I tried other AOSP ROMs as well but I got disappointed with the lack of responsiveness caused by features that should make your life easier but the phone slower. Also all ROMs using the substratum theme engine have an easily perceived delay in operation.
If you'd like to stick with MIUI, then go for the nougat development version. The increase in responsiveness is considerable compared to the stable version based on marshmallow.
Nonetheless, if you want the same security as on an iPhone or more expensive Android phones, do not unlock your bootloader at all. The simple fact that your bootloader is locked will render your device useless to a thief. Although he may not know that before he steals it...
Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
Tatoh said:
Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
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Agree, few like MIUI and few like me hate it from the core of the heart. I kept my phone in drawer for 14 days until I was able to unlock the bootloader. I can't stand MIUI, I can still use buggy AOSP rom instead of stable MIUI.
vgpranav said:
Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
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Miui gives u good features. Good camera quality, audio experience, battery life too. It also has inbuilt call recorder. But it has stock gapps which u may not use all and consider it as unnecessary bloat.
Even if it has so many features people mostly prefer higher android version and go with custom roms. Coz it has better performance, security and new innovative features and much improved core structure.
As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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Its the same thing with me.. Oreo setup with AEx rom is cool bt its getting boring now and all stock roms have more or less the same features. Miui 10 videos are too tempting to give a try wen its out.
Hello
I just changed the battery of this fabulous smartphone which I've been using for several years.
It recently started to give problems and I was charging it several times a day so I decided to change my phone for a newer one and after that I bought the battery to change it to the Xiaomi and to give it a second life using it as replacement phone.
I've been using the whole time the provided official global ROM, but now that it was left behind without updates, I was wondering what is the most advisable custom ROM in terms of stability, battery consumption and newest android version. I know this might be a very wide question. However I have no experience in the world of custom ROMs, although I guess I can manage to install one to the give the phone a newer oportunity.
Any advice? Thank you in advance.
xdaforo said:
Hello
I just changed the battery of this fabulous smartphone which I've been using for several years.
It recently started to give problems and I was charging it several times a day so I decided to change my phone for a newer one and after that I bought the battery to change it to the Xiaomi and to give it a second life using it as replacement phone.
I've been using the whole time the provided official global ROM, but now that it was left behind without updates, I was wondering what is the most advisable custom ROM in terms of stability, battery consumption and newest android version. I know this might be a very wide question. However I have no experience in the world of custom ROMs, although I guess I can manage to install one to the give the phone a newer oportunity.
Any advice? Thank you in advance.
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I can tell Im around custom ROMs for a very long time. My all time favourite is crDroid because it's in the market since ages and has very solid name. Very solid performance as well. Lot of customizations but smooth at the same time. If you don't care about customizations, other good option is LineageOS (mother of all custom ROMs actually, and crDroid is based on it too).
What Id like to stress out - you have even Android 12 available, but it lags like hell on mido aka Redmi Note 4. Better option for this old device is Android 11, and best one in my opinion - Android 10. True, you won't get updates anymore, but you have fully operational, smooth as silk performance. I've been switching between versions so Im speaking from experience.
Feel free to ask for any other details.
Lord Sithek said:
I can tell Im around custom ROMs for a very long time. My all time favourite is crDroid because it's in the market since ages and has very solid name. Very solid performance as well. Lot of customizations but smooth at the same time. If you don't care about customizations, other good option is LineageOS (mother of all custom ROMs actually, and crDroid is based on it too).
What Id like to stress out - you have even Android 12 available, but it lags like hell on mido aka Redmi Note 4. Better option for this old device is Android 11, and best one in my opinion - Android 10. True, you won't get updates anymore, but you have fully operational, smooth as silk performance. I've been switching between versions so Im speaking from experience.
Feel free to ask for any other details.
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If I want to try android 12L which one do you recommend the smoothest experience for better daily use (no gaming), I mean for social media, browsing, watching youtube, etc. Hope for battery life too.
For a long time, I've used Havoc OS (v4.16 Android 11 now) + Fussion Kernel.
Thanks
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If I want to try android 12L which one do you recommend the smoothest experience for better daily use (no gaming), I mean for social media, browsing, watching youtube, etc. Hope for battery life too.
For a long time, I've used Havoc OS (v4.16 Android 11 now) + Fussion Kernel.
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Probably LineageOs since it's most lightweight. But I've tried it some time ago too and it was lagging as well. Maybe something changed since then, but honestly I think that mido just can't handle A12 well
Lord Sithek said:
I can tell Im around custom ROMs for a very long time. My all time favourite is crDroid because it's in the market since ages and has very solid name. Very solid performance as well. Lot of customizations but smooth at the same time. If you don't care about customizations, other good option is LineageOS (mother of all custom ROMs actually, and crDroid is based on it too).
What Id like to stress out - you have even Android 12 available, but it lags like hell on mido aka Redmi Note 4. Better option for this old device is Android 11, and best one in my opinion - Android 10. True, you won't get updates anymore, but you have fully operational, smooth as silk performance. I've been switching between versions so Im speaking from experience.
Feel free to ask for any other details.
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Hello, thank you for your experienced opinion.
I don't think I need a very customizable ROM so it seems LineageOS might seem the best option. And following your advice, android 10 could be enough for the device since I prefer it to be lightweighted.
Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
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Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
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Hey there, I hope you're doing okay
Answering your question, yes, upgrading from a stock rom to a custom rom will make your experience a lot better. not only in performance, in battery , and customization
and even better if you root + stock rom, that's it. your phone value will increase because not only can you experience the latest Android 13 but you can also do multitasking work very smoothly
Also, battery consumption will be reduced twice, and you can customize it starting from the icons, status bar, and lockscreen. Not only that, you can also install root modules
i mean, you can also use xiaomi camera app on your sony phone camera
think about it with sony camera and xiaomi camera software
If you can do everything, i will consider not buying a new phone rather than saving that money and investing it to make more money and buy an iPhone, but still, Android is better
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Okay, I might be pre-biased, but I have heard about Sony firmware being exceptionally buggy even after many updates. (By all means, this is not Sony-exclusive problem.)
Can people still using the stock firmware confirm whether it is acceptable for daily use? How often do you reboot the phone?
I was actually planning on buying the phone with the suspicion that I will have to install LineageOS right away. Is there any experince of running LineageOS on it? Do all the nice features, like 4k screen, work?
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bro and also, there are more roms than lineagos, so think about it
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Sony Xperia 1
The Sony Xperia 1 is a 6.5" phone with a 1644x3840p display. The Snapdragon 855 chipset is paired with 6GB of RAM and 64/128GB of storage. The main camera is 12+12+12MP and the selfie camera is 8MP. The battery has a 3330mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
It makes no sense to install a custom ROM on a phone like the Xperia 1 close to launch. All the unique features of the phone (mainly the cameras) are locked behind the Sony custom API that is used by the stock apps running on the Sony app framework.
So at the very least you will need a Magisk module that ports over the latest version of the app framework to any generic ROM, and then install the stock (camera) apps.
Personally, I find the stock ROM close enough to AOSP that I haven't felt a need to install any custom ROM for the past 5 years now. When you install a custom ROM you are simply trading Sony bugs for things like missing implementations, partial hardware support etc.
There is nothing buggy. It's close to the os pixels launch with, their custom version of AOSP.
Just has a few more apps for camera stuff.
As an owner of the major flagship devices, this is the best all around experience and the best camera.
I recently had a Xiaomi 13 pro and thought it'd camera was best, nah this beats it and the os is leagues better. I have a pixel 7 pro also and I honestly won't ever use it again in comparison and I have the best roms I could build for it.
And as the others have said lineage is not an immediate thing anyone should just flash, and it's one of a gazillion roms and definitely not the first ROM I would flash...