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My previous phone was an iPhone, which i now consider inferior to my ZU, although I haven't seen a way to get over 30fps on video recording on the ZU, yet the iPhone can do just that. Is there any way at all to get at least 60fps recording on it?
I suppose I should add the fact that I would be willing to flash different ROMs, Kernels etc to achieve this
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My previous phone was an iPhone, which i now consider inferior to my ZU, although I haven't seen a way to get over 30fps on video recording on the ZU, yet the iPhone can do just that. Is there any way at all to get at least 60fps recording on it?
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The SoC can't do 60FPS. Save up for the ZU2
Hey guys, I'm returning from a recent trip to iPhoneland and I'm looking for the camera app that's closest to keeping up with the iPhone's camera.
I'm running cm11 and so far the best I've found is this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030
This one takes a lot better pictures than the stock cm or the google camera from the play store, but it still lags behind the iPhone.
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Alright that's what I was kind of afraid of. I know that there is a limit to how good the camera is going to be but I was hoping I hadn't found it yet. There is a significant variation between the different camera apps I have tried. It's too bad we can't use the camera to its full potential on aosp based roms.
I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
If you want some examples of what the G2's camera is capable of, look here:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/
You can find more info about Mi2raw (available on the Google Play Market, it's free) in the main thread for it and yes there's more pics too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/app-mi2raw-enables-capturing-real-raw-t2837089
Again, we're not dealing with the best image sensor ever made but I've been damned happy with the results I've been getting with my G2 because of Mi2raw (I just got this G2 like 3 weeks ago).
As far as other apps, I use Aviary (it was free a few days ago, with every single filter they had for free too so I grabbed it all and backed it up safely), PerfectlyClear which gave away their Android app for free last week (it's not too bad, actually), and Photoshop Express (which can load the DNG files directly on the G2 directly from Mi2raw for quick viewing).
There's also XCam LG which adds a lot of functionality to the G2 including giving it 4K video recording capability (just make sure to read the details in the thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
XCam LG has a settings app to tweak it further located on the Play Market as well, it's worth the price if you need it.
For me personally I just use Mi2raw for most every picture I snap these days then do editing/PP work when I get back home, it's what works best for me at this time.
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Try Cymera. It's free and has good editing tools. Drawbacks are that it takes a bit to load and is not too stable. It's the only camera app that focuses correctly and has a proper white balance!!!! The resolution is small 1 Megapixel?, but the image is sharper and better than any 13megapixel shot from other camera apps or stock.
Otherwise just take the stock LG camera app as a daily driver.
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I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
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why would you disagree if its known that iPhone and Nokia use way better sensor and lenses? (and i'm not an iphone fanboy, far from that )
i didn't say that LG hardware is crap - i'm just saying that it's no match to those two... or to say it better - "close but no cigar"
Nokia & iPhone give much better low light images than LG (partly due to better sensor, partly due to smaller f-stop lens number which lets more light onto the sensor)
for comparison
LG G2 has F/2.4 lens < iphone/nokia use F/2.2 lens (smaller the f-stop, more light comes in)
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
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i didn't mention mi2raw app on purpose because it's not for everyone... and since i'm a photo hobbyist and DSLR owner, it gives me a bit of real camera world in a mobile device...
and what i like about mi2raw (besides its raw capability) is that the photos taken with that app don't look "painted" or "blurred" because of too much noise reduction that other camera apps produce
mi2raw would be too complicated to use for an average user... but hey - it's free, and everyone can try it and see
everything else you wrote - i second...
+ Snapseed is an image app worth mentioning especially with its ambiance setting that gives an image a nice "bump" in every way if it's used correctly...
personally i'm currently "stuck" with mi2raw, xdabbeb's XCam (because of those extra options you mentioned) and google camera (because it's the best for panorama/sphere images)
cheers...
In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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I did not know that thanks
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"a Better Camera" app is what I use on non stock Roms and it's very good. LG camera hardware is not that good? You make me laugh... Can IPhone camera record 4k?Does it have ois?
The only thing that iPhone is better at is the image processing. That's it. (period).
I use the G2's stock camera app on AICP. It's okay, but the images look washed out compared to my Optimus G.
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60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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again. it takes normal pics at full resolution, then there is a night mode which takes very very nice pics in dark situations at full resolution (better than almost any other phone out there) and then there is a special night mode that reduces pic resolution to 2 megapixels, but boy those night pics are the best I have ever seen.... Check this for example. and no worries about zenfone 5 camera being 8 megapixels. the zenfone 6 has 13 and same software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TPqwDYStI
so you still live in a world where more megapixels mean better images?
i.e. see why HTC went for lower mpx in its flagship devices...
about my "bullsh*t of the year"... do some reading and know some basics of the digital photography...
i never said that LG G2 camera is bad, read my post again & read hardware tech specs of the other devices...
i like the mi2raw app very much (see my posts there in the app thread) - it's the best thing that happened to this device considering the camera/photo...
and i think LG G2 camera hardware can do much more - especially on the strange "painted like" image compression effect which i hate so much...
i'd say - LG G2 is close, but no cigar
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
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Because of RAW the G2 is one of the top android cameras, that is true. However, the flagship Lumia devices also shoot RAW.
Yes I know, iphone can shoot RAW too, so android is behind somehow...
60nine: Ive read everything you've written, thats why I had to react. I know a lot about photography, HW a more, so Im OK. Thanks. And about pixels, even 8Mpx iphone camera is worse than 16Mpx SGN4 camera so give me a break...HTCs cameras are the worst from the biggest flagship manufacturers. HTCs cameras lags of detail and lost every shootout with competition. And I will tell you something, you will need at least 2160p for viewing on upcoming 4K display devices...so now the pixels matters. I know that more pixels suffers from dynamic range and more noise, but it will be hidden in more Mpx photo with good postprocess. So if you find comparison between IP6 and LG G2 in RAW at same settings and same scene and IP6 will be better, youll have my respect and appologies.
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i won't bother answering to a person who thinks more mpx means better images (on a same sized sensor), so cheers...
raw is not for an average users anyway
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
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I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?
Poco F1 has the full legacy on Camera2 API and It is powered by SD845 with good sensors. But I am not able to record video in 24 FPS in this mobile by any third application like Open Camera, Hedge Camera. I am bit disappointed now and Hoping it will be available in the next software update.
Or u on miui or custom rom?
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I am using stock miui not custom rom.
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Or u on miui or custom rom?
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I am using stock miui not custom rom.
Why though?
24p is considered exotic, and has complications when converting to standard frame-rates for playback (PAL or NTSC). So it probably won't ever arrive.
What's wrong with 30p?
No, 24 FPS gives you Cinematic footage which is very useful when you shoot the film
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Why though?
24p is considered exotic, and has complications when converting to standard frame-rates for playback (PAL or NTSC). So it probably won't ever arrive.
What's wrong with 30p?
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No, 24 FPS gives you Cinematic footage which is very useful when you shoot the short films.
Even iPhone XS/iPhone XS max have been introduced with 24 fps option. LG mobile/ Sony mobile have the possibility of this.
Poco F1 has the potential to do it since It is powered by SD 845.
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No, 24 FPS gives you Cinematic footage which is very useful when you shoot the short films.
Even iPhone XS/iPhone XS max have been introduced with 24 fps option. LG mobile/ Sony mobile have the possibility of this.
Poco F1 has the potential to do it since It is powered by SD 845.
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OK, so it's a style/aesthetic thing rather than a technical thing.
Oh it's definitely capable of it, any modern Android smartphone is - even budget ones can record 1080p30 and 24p is less intensive so that's not a problem for any mainstream phone SoC.
The camera driver is a different story though. Might be do-able in config files somewhere in vendor or something. If it's not then it might not be possible unless the real OEM (not Xiaomi, but whoever makes the camera and the driver) does it - but if that's the case then it may not ever happen because Xiaomi could need to renegotiate their OEM contract (which can cost a lot of money) and that's not really something Xiaomi or any budget ODM is known for.
Have you tried filmic Pro? 24fps works perfectly for me.
See screenshot attached with video information.
P.s. gave up with the upload and shared from Google photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QtFfJgLQ9xEBoKUL8
Not sure why attached image is not showing
Film Pro yet to try
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Since Film pro lite is not available, I hesitate to buy it. But if you are sure that 24 fps is recorded smoothly. I may try it.
Hope you are not changing the shutter speed to get 24 fps video.
I actually just noticed that indeed shutter speed is changed in the increments of 24 so it does reduce the shutter speed to 24.
Let me know if there's anything else you'd want me to check for you.
Also slow motion videoes don't seem to work on filmic.
gie62001 said:
I actually just noticed that indeed shutter speed is changed in the increments of 24 so it does reduce the shutter speed to 24.
Let me know if there's anything else you'd want me to check for you.
Also slow motion videoes don't seem to work on filmic.
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Thanks for your quick turnaround.
Yes, In the open camera app, if the shutter speed is set at 1/24s, the output will be 24fps. But not for other shutter speed. Even I am not sure, this is the correct way to record 24 fps video.
But I looked your three images, It seems that Filmic pro records video in 24 fps in all shutter speed, - 1/24,1/48, am I right?.
Yes it does film on all the increment frame rates 48, 96, etc
Edit: meant shutter speeds
gie62001 said:
Yes it does film on all the increment frame rates 48, 96, etc
Edit: meant shutter speeds
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Thank you gie62001
No worries glad if I helped. If you want me to do more tests let me know.
Would any developer be interested in creating a mod to release extra camera functionality?
This is a device with a very competent photographic set with a good chipset. In addition to already having the camera 2 api level 3 enabled. In the same way that mods were developed for the flagships of previous generations like the Galaxy S7, S8 and Note 8, which enable features such as 4K 60FPS, higher bitrates for videos, ISO sensitivity greater than 800, and shutter speeds up to 90s. Together with GCAM, these extra features would enable excellent results for astrophotography. The A71 is receiving the OneUi 2.1 which comes with much more complete photographic features, but which are still lower than the flagships, such as ISO maximum 800, instead of 3200, and shutter speed up to 10s, instead of 30s . This is already good, but for some situations it is still insufficient. Using L Camera, an application for Nexus, I was able to increase the ISO to up to 10,000. Remembering that this is the limit of the application, not the hardware. This shows that the software is severely limiting the capacity of the hardware. And considering that the A71 has more powerful hardware than some flagships from previous generations, I believe it deserves a mod to unlock its full potential.
I would very much second that!
But what I see is that simple things are locked for 3rd party apps like 24 fps is laggy, there's no 60 or more fps available in 1080p. Not to mention that other lenses are not available at all. All checked with filmic pro and open camera.
If only the camera was unlocked this phone would be perfect.
Where do you find devs for that? Maybe we should ask those devs who prepared mods for other phones?
DonAndress said:
I would very much second that!
But what I see is that simple things are locked for 3rd party apps like 24 fps is laggy, there's no 60 or more fps available in 1080p. Not to mention that other lenses are not available at all. All checked with filmic pro and open camera.
If only the camera was unlocked this phone would be perfect.
Where do you find devs for that? Maybe we should ask those devs who prepared mods for other phones?
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Good to know that there are others who support this idea.
On Google Playstore, the developer I found is Sityware.
http://www.sityware.com
[email protected]
I've already sent him an email, but I haven't received any response.
Here all camera mods from this developer:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Sityware
There is also the "zeroprobe", responsible for the "Zero Camera Mod". I don't know if it's the same developer as the playstore, because the mod interface is the same in both cases.
Profile of "zeroprobe" on XDA: https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2516635
There is a Telegram group exclusive to Zero Camera Mod users: https://t.me/joinchat/GgDoVELya0-3xmyGFuPnow
Some camera mods developed by zeroprobe.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/themes/zero-camera-mod-v1-0-increased-bitrates-t3439870
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/zero-camera-mod-bitrates-jpg-hdr-af-t3625795
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/themes/zero-camera-mod-bitrates-jpg-remove-t3793395
I'll see if I can get in touch with that developer. It would be nice if everyone interested in this mod also got in touch with them. It would increase the chances of getting some camera mod for that device.
After a quick search, it seems that the Snapdragon 730 does not support 4k 60FPS video. Which is a shame, as the main sensor of the Galaxy A71, Samsung Bright S5KGW1, supports videos up to 8k 24fps. But that also does not prevent other extremely useful camera features from being unlocked.
I'd love to see A71 Camera mod's as well.
Would be superb to use cameras to full potential
Is there a way to enable and disable shutter sound without silent mode?
DonAndress said:
I would very much second that!
But what I see is that simple things are locked for 3rd party apps like 24 fps is laggy, there's no 60 or more fps available in 1080p. Not to mention that other lenses are not available at all. All checked with filmic pro and open camera.
If only the camera was unlocked this phone would be perfect.
Where do you find devs for that? Maybe we should ask those devs who prepared mods for other phones?
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if im correct 4k does not work on other apps in oneui
im glad im on a12 i get 4k 60 fps on gcam (altthough i use 4k 30 cause its better for low light and has better stabalization