Hello dear community. I have an OPO but recently it stopped recognising the SIM card, and then in my efforts to fix it i cut the volume rockers cable, so now i am looking for a replacement. LG V10 seems a very good option to consider, mostly cause right now you can find it ~240€ in Ebay + it has all those little plusses like the second screen, a fairly good camera, ets etc. The thing is that i like to put custom roms, but i see here in XDA, that LG V10 doesn't have much active developer community. Fortunately its still possible to root, but then i won't be able to get Android 8 when it comes out. What do you think about it? besides that, whats your opinion as LG v10 users? Is it a good solid device that worths investing? I am not purchasing devices very ofter. Usually once every three years or when the device stops working from hardware problem, so i want it to last quite a while.
Also i've noticed that LG v10 usually comes with Nt&t or other carrier in the label. Is it possible to unlock it to other carriers via rooting? I never had such problems in the past cause in my country the smartphones usually come unlocked and carriers don't bother locking them.
thanks in advance
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TheoKondak said:
Hello dear community. I have an OPO but recently it stopped recognising the SIM card, and then in my efforts to fix it i cut the volume rockers cable, so now i am looking for a replacement. LG V10 seems a very good option to consider, mostly cause right now you can find it ~240€ in Ebay + it has all those little plusses like the second screen, a fairly good camera, ets etc. The thing is that i like to put custom roms, but i see here in XDA, that LG V10 doesn't have much active developer community. Fortunately its still possible to root, but then i won't be able to get Android 8 when it comes out. What do you think about it? besides that, whats your opinion as LG v10 users? Is it a good solid device that worths investing? I am not purchasing devices very ofter. Usually once every three years or when the device stops working from hardware problem, so i want it to last quite a while.
thanks in advance
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I can tell you about my experience and you decide . I wanted this phone since it came out but it was expensive . I waited a year and I decided to buy it . The reason there is not much of development is ( probably ) because there is no need for development .
The phone is great as is . UI is not that pretty but it's functional . Battery is pretty solid , w-ifi also , screen is great .... indoors . Once you go out on sunny day you can't see nothing regardless of brightness . So I bought Green onion supply matte screen protector ,
that helps with glare . Speaker is on bottom of the phone and it sounds pretty good , but I use bluetooth headset all the time . GPS is FAST and accurate . When I turn it on outside within SECONDS it knows where I am and signal is solid . ( I don't have network data . Just GPS sat . ) Volume rocker and power in the back is ( in my opinion ) great option , usually when you put your phone in windshield holder it cant push your power button or volume ( like on my previous phone ) . Camera . ( The selling point ) Usually cameras have 4:3 sensor , and if you select 16:9 it will zoom in little bit and lower resolution . Not this phone . You can select 4:3 but on this phone it just crops screen on left and right . When you select 16 :9 it just widens the screen . Pictures come very big 9MB and RAW is about 20+ MB . It has optic stabilization and EIS ( Electronic Image Stabilization ) I don't like eis . Video comes out choppy and mechanical looking . And OIS does not work on 4k VIdeo or 60fps . Regular 1080P will run at 24mbs and 4k runs at 64 mbs . Handheld auto night shots will show some noise on pictures if you recording outside open fields or park with less illumination . Well lit downtown and objects close enough for flash come out great . If you have tripod and taking stationery pictures with very little light you can lower iso to 50 and shutter speed to 5 10 or up to 30 seconds . Since I have this phone I am not taking my point and shoot sony anywhere on any vacations , and I bought few clip-on filters ( 10-stop filter , hd anti-haze filter
and few others , tripod with cellphone adapter and bluetooth remote shutter ) . Photos can be also taken with voice command . Selfie camera has little wider angle so You can take more in but it has very little Fish-eye effect if you use wide option . Works great on video chat skype etc . The phone has very premium feel and its heavy . ( especially heavy for vr ) Your nose will suffer if you put it in vr . Yesterday I was in tmoble store and I was playing with v20 and G6 . G 6 is small and Dual camera does not take pictures at same time second camera has smaller aperture 2.4 and wider screen with fish eye effect and ton's of lag . v20 is bigger and has 4:3 camera sensor . If you want 16:9 you have to lower resolution to 9mp . Also laggy .I am not impressed with newer phone models . I bought H960A model , It's the one that can have unlocked bootloader for easy rooting . Have I missed anything ?
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I can tell you about my experience and you decide . I wanted this phone since it came out but it was expensive . I waited a year and I decided to buy it . The reason there is not much of development is ( probably ) because there is no need for development .
The phone is great as is . UI is not that pretty but it's functional . Battery is pretty solid , w-ifi also , screen is great .... indoors . Once you go out on sunny day you can't see nothing regardless of brightness . So I bought Green onion supply matte screen protector ,
that helps with glare . Speaker is on bottom of the phone and it sounds pretty good , but I use bluetooth headset all the time . GPS is FAST and accurate . When I turn it on outside within SECONDS it knows where I am and signal is solid . ( I don't have network data . Just GPS sat . ) Volume rocker and power in the back is ( in my opinion ) great option , usually when you put your phone in windshield holder it cant push your power button or volume ( like on my previous phone ) . Camera . ( The selling point ) Usually cameras have 4:3 sensor , and if you select 16:9 it will zoom in little bit and lower resolution . Not this phone . You can select 4:3 but on this phone it just crops screen on left and right . When you select 16 :9 it just widens the screen . Pictures come very big 9MB and RAW is about 20+ MB . It has optic stabilization and EIS ( Electronic Image Stabilization ) I don't like eis . Video comes out choppy and mechanical looking . And OIS does not work on 4k VIdeo or 60fps . Regular 1080P will run at 24mbs and 4k runs at 64 mbs . Handheld auto night shots will show some noise on pictures if you recording outside open fields or park with less illumination . Well lit downtown and objects close enough for flash come out great . If you have tripod and taking stationery pictures with very little light you can lower iso to 50 and shutter speed to 5 10 or up to 30 seconds . Since I have this phone I am not taking my point and shoot sony anywhere on any vacations , and I bought few clip-on filters ( 10-stop filter , hd anti-haze filter
and few others , tripod with cellphone adapter and bluetooth remote shutter ) . Photos can be also taken with voice command . Selfie camera has little wider angle so You can take more in but it has very little Fish-eye effect if you use wide option . Works great on video chat skype etc . The phone has very premium feel and its heavy . ( especially heavy for vr ) Your nose will suffer if you put it in vr . Yesterday I was in tmoble store and I was playing with v20 and G6 . G 6 is small and Dual camera does not take pictures at same time second camera has smaller aperture 2.4 and wider screen with fish eye effect and ton's of lag . v20 is bigger and has 4:3 camera sensor . If you want 16:9 you have to lower resolution to 9mp . Also laggy .I am not impressed with newer phone models . I bought H960A model , It's the one that can have unlocked bootloader for easy rooting . Have I missed anything ?
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Thanks for your reply! I m quite interested in the camera and the sound recording capabilities since i am a photographer myself, and usually i find it fair enough to use a smartphone instead of my heavy bulky DSLR. Same goes for video recording. I m even thinking i can use V10 as an additional camera on interviews etc. Its good to know that it has a 16:9 sensor! I love wide sensors!
About screen brightness, eh i think i m used to it. Maybe i will get the screen protector you've suggested.
I can't seem to find H960A version, but unlocking the bootloader should be ok. I've done it so many times in the past. The thing is if i can use other versions of the phone with my current carrier. I will have to investigate that since as i said in the first post i never had this problem in the past and i could use some reading on the subject.
Also, i've heard that if you are stuck with and NT&T carrier you wont be able to update software too much, whats about that? I believe you can find the LGs software and manualy flash it, is there such a possibility?
TheoKondak said:
Hello dear community. I have an OPO but recently it stopped recognising the SIM card, and then in my efforts to fix it i cut the volume rockers cable, so now i am looking for a replacement. LG V10 seems a very good option to consider, mostly cause right now you can find it ~240€ in Ebay + it has all those little plusses like the second screen, a fairly good camera, ets etc. The thing is that i like to put custom roms, but i see here in XDA, that LG V10 doesn't have much active developer community. Fortunately its still possible to root, but then i won't be able to get Android 8 when it comes out. What do you think about it? besides that, whats your opinion as LG v10 users? Is it a good solid device that worths investing? I am not purchasing devices very ofter. Usually once every three years or when the device stops working from hardware problem, so i want it to last quite a while.
Also i've noticed that LG v10 usually comes with Nt&t or other carrier in the label. Is it possible to unlock it to other carriers via rooting? I never had such problems in the past cause in my country the smartphones usually come unlocked and carriers don't bother locking them.
thanks in advance
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Hi, I purchased my LG V10 H960A last year and 3 days ago it went into bootloop of death. LG wont confirm that G4 and V10 have heating issuses causing damage on some components on motherboard or unwelding CPU chip. After bootloop appears, there is no fix, only motherboard change will help, which is ridiculous since this is a expensive phone. V10 is a very good phone but with this flaw it becomes unusable and it is only matter of time when you'll face bootloop. My personal advice to you is to consider some other mobile manufacturers since LG didn't showed any interest in customer satisfaction relating to G4 and V10 models. Also they didn't released Nougat for these models yet. Happy purchasing.
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Hi, I purchased my LG V10 H960A last year and 3 days ago it went into bootloop of death. LG wont confirm that G4 and V10 have heating issuses causing damage on some components on motherboard or unwelding CPU chip. After bootloop appears, there is no fix, only motherboard change will help, which is ridiculous since this is a expensive phone. V10 is a very good phone but with this flaw it becomes unusable and it is only matter of time when you'll face bootloop. My personal advice to you is to consider some other mobile manufacturers since LG didn't showed any interest in customer satisfaction relating to G4 and V10 models. Also they didn't released Nougat for these models yet. Happy purchasing.
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Hm, i don't know about V10 bootloop issue, but are you sure its not a software issue? All the times i faced bootloop it was all about software.
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Hm, i don't know about V10 bootloop issue, but are you sure its not a software issue? All the times i faced bootloop it was all about software.
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It is a hardware problem, you can google it and you'll find many V10 users complaining about non fixable bootloop. In my case, I cannot even enter into recovery mode to do factory reset. Problem with these phones is heat generated by processor which eventually will damage some components on motherboard or processor itself will detach from motherboard and cause the bootloop. Only solution is motherboard change and that's not cheap thing to do. This is a big problem since when it happens your phone is unusable, simply dead.
Best regards.
I see. I founda fix that requires to open the smartphone and add some paste but i don't want to do it soon. I will just take care of it so it keeps cool. Maybe by underclocking some of the cores helps?
I use it as my primary camera . I never wanted bulky dslr . Just point and shoot , but what I have does not comes close to lg v10 . Do your homework about bootloader . If i remember correctly H960 is one ( or one of two ) models that supports bootloader unlock . About video recordings . I recorded waterfall 2 times and first HALF A SECOND comes out really loud and then stabilizes , and you HAVE to experiment with directional microphones . I usually just leave them in the middle . One time I wanted to record water stream and I changed Microphone to front and recording went horribly wrong . It sounded like echo from hell . ( I don't know how else to describe it ) . Here is few Photos
http://i63.tinypic.com/qsupgh.jpg
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i ahve xperia z5 and i was offered v10 for exchange, any thought on that?
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I use it as my primary camera . I never wanted bulky dslr . Just point and shoot , but what I have does not comes close to lg v10 . Do your homework about bootloader . If i remember correctly H960 is one ( or one of two ) models that supports bootloader unlock . About video recordings . I recorded waterfall 2 times and first HALF A SECOND comes out really loud and then stabilizes , and you HAVE to experiment with directional microphones . I usually just leave them in the middle . One time I wanted to record water stream and I changed Microphone to front and recording went horribly wrong . It sounded like echo from hell . ( I don't know how else to describe it ) . Here is few Photos
http://i63.tinypic.com/qsupgh.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/20r3oj.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/10xc200.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/33kar9v.jpg
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Thanks for your reply. I ordered the GSM Unlocked version of the phone, which hopefully is bootloader unlockable. The images look great for a smartphone indeed. For sure i will have to experiment with the settings, mostly the microphone settings. Maybe its possible to hear the sound quality via the headphones realtime? That would be a good feature.
@klemen241
I've heard very good opinions about xperia Z5, myself i find it a bit bulky due to the design. Sony phones have bad angles which makes the phone look biger than it is. V10 on the other hands, is quite slim, even though its a very big phone, on my hands felt ok. The only negatives i have in mind about V10 is that the CPU seems quite problematic with the overheating issue, and also i think its not very fast. The 6 cores might help with the battery life, but Z5 has 8 cores, which naturaly would have better performance, but in the end who cares, since phone is smooth, i don't really care about computational power and benchmarks. So i suggest you have a look at the gimmics of v10 and see for yourself.
V10 VS Xperia z5
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i ahve xperia z5 and i was offered v10 for exchange, any thought on that?
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I read about z5 and I have mixed feelings . If you have regular z5 ( 5.2" ) exchange it for premium version . z5 has newer processor ( 8 cores vs 6 cores in lg ) and newer graphics card dedicated photo button , but it has smaller camera sensor ( despite 23 megapixel ) non removable battery and lower screen resolution . If you like smaller phone You don't want to exchange it . lg is hulking 5.7 "
Here . Read this : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7606&idPhone2=7534&idPhone3=7536#h960tr,*,*
TheoKondak said:
Thanks for your reply. I ordered the GSM Unlocked version of the phone, which hopefully is bootloader unlockable. The images look great for a smartphone indeed. For sure i will have to experiment with the settings, mostly the microphone settings. Maybe its possible to hear the sound quality via the headphones realtime? That would be a good feature.
@klemen241
I've heard very good opinions about xperia Z5, myself i find it a bit bulky due to the design. Sony phones have bad angles which makes the phone look biger than it is. V10 on the other hands, is quite slim, even though its a very big phone, on my hands felt ok. The only negatives i have in mind about V10 is that the CPU seems quite problematic with the overheating issue, and also i think its not very fast. The 6 cores might help with the battery life, but Z5 has 8 cores, which naturaly would have better performance, but in the end who cares, since phone is smooth, i don't really care about computational power and benchmarks. So i suggest you have a look at the gimmics of v10 and see for yourself.
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yea the problem with sony is **** ugly design, and sd810 inside get hot as hell when used. I would guess v10 has very optimised software, because sony doens.t So yea its there there. I do like better battery on sony thou
TheoKondak said:
Thanks for your reply. I ordered the GSM Unlocked version of the phone, which hopefully is bootloader unlockable. The images look great for a smartphone indeed. For sure i will have to experiment with the settings, mostly the microphone settings. Maybe its possible to hear the sound quality via the headphones realtime? That would be a good feature.
@klemen241
I've heard very good opinions about xperia Z5, myself i find it a bit bulky due to the design. Sony phones have bad angles which makes the phone look biger than it is. V10 on the other hands, is quite slim, even though its a very big phone, on my hands felt ok. The only negatives i have in mind about V10 is that the CPU seems quite problematic with the overheating issue, and also i think its not very fast. The 6 cores might help with the battery life, but Z5 has 8 cores, which naturaly would have better performance, but in the end who cares, since phone is smooth, i don't really care about computational power and benchmarks. So i suggest you have a look at the gimmics of v10 and see for yourself.
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thanks, i already swapped. z5 has horrible problem with overheating too and very low sot compared to v10. I will try to stay on marshmallow and try all the battery saving tweaks i had on z5 and see the differenece
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Hello there,
After much inquiry, I've become undecided about this phone. I have been looking for a 4.7-5in phone with a good and snappy camera, battery, USA bands, and micro sd support, and the z5 compact seems to fit the bill. However, I keep reading problems about this device mainly concerning its software and camera. I really like the device given all it has to offer but I'm just not inclined to dish out $500+ on a device that has a problematic camera i.e. blurred edges caused by software or hardware, no warranty (here in the USA), over-heating, sony ui, etc. I currently have an LG G4 which absolutely meets my needs but like I said, I'm looking for a smaller phone for traveling and one hand handling.
So my question for those who own the Z5c, is it really THAT bad and will the firmware update fix the purported problems of this device? I'm concerned about the blurry edges being a hardware issue and perhaps Sony is just covering their tracks by saying that an "update" will fix that problem. If you have updated your device, could you post a sample of the fixed camera or at least let us know here?
Really appreciate your time and input!
Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
Woza72 said:
Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
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Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
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Notchr302 said:
Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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I'm so confused because some say there is still lag after the update. Ugh lol
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I am one of those who would say that the lags are gone after the update. And whatever that guy said, I agree wholeheartedly. This phone is a beast. I also come from a Z3 Compact and I am loving the Z5c. Especially the camera
It was a little stuttery straight out of the box but I downloaded Sony PC companion (just googled it) and then downloaded the latest firmware 32.0.A.6.152 (it took a couple of hours, which by all reports is normal) then updated my phone.
Happy to report it is buttery smooth with no stutters or lags all super fast.
Interesting to see that the pre installed photo analyzer app (Sony) which was reportedly causing some lag, had disappeared in the latest firmware.
I hope this has helped you with your decision.
Cheers
Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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99% sure it's good. You be the judge. Just a quick picture, tried to place items on every edge/corner.
I'm sitting at the park, it's dusk and a little cloudy. No flash, superior auto, 8mp.
I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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For the resolution posted, I dont see any issues. What I see on my photos is some sort of sharpening which causes details to be lost when zooming in. And believe me, I am not even remotely pixel-peeking, just basic cropping for creative purposes.
I'll try to post some sample photos to illustrate what I am facing here.
Cheers,
BB
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The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Same problem for me. It's a very expansive phone and you have to read pages of forums to understand how to make the most of it.
But still, the camera to me is a complete disaster. The app is cheap, very laggy, menus are terrible and the most improtant part, it takes poor photos.
Oversharpened and zooming in a tiny bit on a 23Mp pictures is just horrible.
The photo shared a few post back in the park is just awful too, sorry bro no offense, but it's not a defective camera it's just what is sold.
When you come from other brands, you are automatically disapointed.
P.S. videos are quite amazing though, especially in 60fps and the management of the edit app of videos is very good too.
I just switched to the nexus 5X, and there are no comparaison. Much much simpler, you don't need to test every little setting to take a good pic and zooming in is incredible, the best.
Yet I really loved the compact shape and overall build quality of the z5 device.
Comments non related to the camera is : the system is quite good as it is very similar to stock android but a little disappointed too by the performance.
I don't speak about lags and everything as it is quite fluid, but it just takes time to open or reload apps compared to my other devices.
I am still keeping the device to see if there will be improvement (there should be a major camera app update this month) but i don't believe in miracles, i don't think that will solve the pictures quality.
If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market. It's interesting to me how polarizing the camera is for people though. People either think it's the second coming, or the antichrist. I imagine that the improvements to the software promised with the Marshmallow update will go a long way to getting a lot of naysayers to give it a second look.
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If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
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No, it's certainly been by those who've tried the phone. By the looks of it you didn't get too far into that thread I previously recommended, but Timaustin2000 and a few others in that thread really turned the tone around with their investigations on the ability of the camera, and comparison shots. They've even had an influential effect on reviewers. So for instance, it wasn't till TimAustin pointed out to the reviewers at Android Authority that they were crippling the phone by using the 23mp in low light scenarios that they took into consideration the supersampling of the 8mp default settings. From there a number of other reviewers, bloggers, vloggers, and the like took a second look at the camera in the phone and tested appropriately with often very very positive results (many of these reviews and videos are also mentioned in that thread).
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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From the recent reviews that I've been reading and watching, that doesn't appear to be the case, but of course, you're free to come to your own conclusions.
Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Previous iPhone only user here too. Have you updated to the latest firmware? My camera takes about 2 seconds to come up pressing the side button since the update. Further improvements are expected with the Marshmallow update.
Also, I have no lag since the latest firmware, but I'm also using the Nova Launcher which you can get for free in the Play Store (not sure if that makes any difference or not).
I also have a problem with the volume, especially from the front speakers. Thought having two speakers instead of one, as I did on my iPhone 2G, 3G, 4S. and 6S would make it louder, but it's not. Still, honestly, I don't find it much quieter than those devices either. the 6S was maybe a tick louder, but not by much. I still want more punch from the front speakers, and I'm hoping that's something I can fix by doing some sort of ROM tweak. If not, I suppose I can live with it, but its the biggest disappointment about the device for me, not because its so much quieter than my iPhone devices, but because it doesn't stand head and shoulders above them.
I don't know about you, but my Sony ear plugs are way way wayyyyy more comfortable than my iPhone headphones. In fact, they're the most comfortable in-ear headphones I've ever worn. The different length on the cords I don't really have much issue with, since I usually drape the longest cord behind my head to my right ear (which is how I'm assuming they're meant to be worn). I will admit that they seem slightly cheap-ish, and I was hoping that where the volume button was (which I DO have on my pair) also had a mic so I could answer in-coming calls, but overall, I think they're pretty okay. Again, they're much more comfortable than the headphones that came with my iPhones. As far as loudness in the headphones is concerned, they're loud enough, but I definitely wouldn't mind if they were louder. I'll probably end up getting some sort of thin amp/dac like the dragonfly or the Aqua to boost the volume. Shame I have to do that, but oh well.
Again, its interesting to me how varied people's reactions are to this device. I'm FAR more happier with this device than I am my previous iPhones. Its not perfect, but it hits so many of the checkboxes for me that its hard to complain.
Edit: Oh, also, I got a quick charger with my device, but I bought the Taiwan version, so maybe that accounts for the difference in headphones and charger.
Lastly, after the initial setup, and especially after the update, my phone doesn't get very hot. Maybe I'm not using the same intensive programs that you are, though. The phone gets a little warm with Candy Crush and Asphalt 8, but my iPhone 6S also got pretty hot just using the camera (which is something my mother noticed when I handed her the phone to see some pictures).
Are there any owners of the G5 SE here who would be able to share impressions/thoughts on the phone, specifically battery life and also general performance.
There are plenty of video reviews on YouTube but they all seem to be non-English, which makes things a little hard to understand. I've found a few foreign language reviews which I have run through Google Translate but none seem to have any 'scientific' battery life impressions and figures.
G5 SE is on Amazon UK for £288 and specs wise its probably better than anything else under £300. But lack of English reviews makes it a bit of an unknown quantity.
Thanks for any help.
I have it for 4 months now (silver color), i would definitively suggest it. The only major drawback is a little weak battery, with medium usage you can go from morning till evening without recharging it. I like how sleek and super slim its designed. It feels nice in hand, i cant say its finishing metal or not. I didn't have any major heating issues. G5 se is a real boss between all major brands.
Thanks for those impressions. The battery is what most concerns me the most, at the moment I have a Galaxy Note 5 which barely makes it through the day, and that's with power saver mode permanently on so I'm running the phone at 70% of what its capable of. :/
I use 2G network and my battery two days without recharging.
I've had mine since December, and it's been pretty good. Only a few niggles, which I will highlight after the positives:
Positives
1) The image quality from the camera is REALLY good; very sharp in some cases. On a par with the Note 4, which I previously owned, but with more natural colours. The widescreen mode is also very handy and cab make for some stunning photos, if a bit low in resolution. Just a shame the focusing performance isn't better (see below).
2) The OS itself is fine; Nougat has really helped it out in terms of split-screen for all apps. This means you can free up a home button for another task.
3) It feels really nice to hold and isn't too big
4) It can take a drop or two without waving a white flag - take note, Samsung: your screens suck.
5) Double-tap to unlock!
6) Fingerprint sensor is second nature once you get used to it, and you wonder why it isn't in the same place on other phones
7) Screen is very nice for watching movies on, especially for an LCD, but does suffer a bit in strong sunlight; a bit too reflective at times
8) Sound on the B & O plugin is lovely, but standard sound still very competent (especially speaker)
Niggles
1) Battery life isn't that great, but probably par for most android phones nowadays; morning to early evening before needing a top-up, which, thanks to the fast-charging, it does pretty quickly.
2) The USB socket on the standard plugin is already starting to feel flaky; not quite holding the cable in place, so can come out. This is rectified by using the B & O play plugin, but this has it's own issue.
3) The B & O play plugin sounds great, but doesn't sit flush with the phone when connected. The USB port also craps out when transferring files to the PC, whereas the standard plugin doesn't.
4) System process used to crash on startup; turned out to only happen when SD-Card connected. Doesn't happen now Nougat update has been applied
5) Camera autofocus is crap in bright sunlight or busy areas; the laser component isn't as efficient as it is made out to be, which can mean lots of missed shots
Hope that helps!
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I've had mine since December, and it's been pretty good. Only a few niggles, which I will highlight after the positives:
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Thanks, very thorough impressions. :good:
Bit worrying to hear about the battery, but I suspected as much.
The G5 and SE model are both solid phones, I just don't know why LG cheaped out on a 2800mah battery, especially paired with that QHD screen.
I saw this post on reddit,thought the guys is bluffing!But god damn!He is not bluffing!You can check your wide angle camera by taking picture and checking EXIF data after.The sharper version has 2.01 mm, the blurry one has 2.09 mm Focal length.Mine is 2.09,phone is H870 Europe version.That's why my wide angle pictures are blurry ..
I've 2,0. EU version.
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2.01 here and good photos
I have 2.01mm and European H870.
2.09 Mine doesn't look blurry though?
H872PR, 2.01 mm
Not a big photo junkie but I do enjoy the occasional wide angle shot of scenery.
2.09 but no blur. In fact looks better than normal camera most time.
Interesting, I am more inclined to believe that poor quality is from some other defect (dust or something else on the lens or inside of the glass, or who knows what), but it could be something that happens more often with one choice of assembly.
If your phone is taking demonstrably worse pictures with the wide angle lens, it seems worth getting that fixed!
2.01 here in the Canadian model.
2.01 with lgm-g600L Korean version, good photo!
same kinda fish eye distortions ?
2,01 here
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2.09 here - UK H870.
Ok so - what is the impact on this? I've had W/A photos taken that are not blurry at all, and some have been - it's all depended on the environment and how im holding the device - this is the same for any phone or camera going...
Is this something that can be improved on by software or are we totally limited to worse hardware?
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I saw this post on reddit,thought the guys is bluffing!But god damn!He is not bluffing!You can check your wide angle camera by taking picture and checking EXIF data after.The sharper version has 2.01 mm, the blurry one has 2.09 mm Focal length.Mine is 2.09,phone is H870 Europe version.That's why my wide angle pictures are blurry ..
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Finally! That f...cking LG. Check this wide angle photo I took yesterday in Belfast. I know that it was evening and google photos are shrinking it a bit but for me the quality is ****ty
https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4vUDhAttPzyCCiL2
Look at all those flares and generally the blurry quality.
Not only they don't provide security updates for "flagship" but they also provided some of us with crappy hardware. Definitely selling mine soon
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Finally! That f...cking LG. Check this wide angle photo I took yesterday in Belfast. I know that it was evening and google photos are shrinking it a bit but for me the quality is ****ty
https://photos.app.goo.gl/G4vUDhAttPzyCCiL2
Look at all those flares and generally the blurry quality.
Not only they don't provide security updates for "flagship" but they also provided some of us with crappy hardware. Definitely selling mine soon
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You're absolutely right,plus that photo looks like s h i t.I really like G6,except the wide angle camera and software updates.What would you get after selling yours?
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You're absolutely right,plus that photo looks like s h i t.I really like G6,except the camera and software updates.What would you get after selling yours?
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Oneplus 5t because:
1) it's cheaper
2) it's back is not from glass (my G6 is already scratched)
3) software updates are released really fast. It's bad that they won't have "project treble" but still they release quickly. For example "blueborne" has been fixed in October Google security patches? LG6 still doesn't have that and is vulnerable to attacks so I can't use my BT headphones.
4) software is fast - pure android with some nice tweaks. People say LG6 is fast. Really? Sometimes it takes 5-6 seconds for my camera app to start.
5) it's OLED
6) it's cheaper !!!
7) it has notifications slider
8) headphone jack is on the bottom of the phone !!! Really LG, headphone jack at the top of the phone is a bad decision.
Previously I had LG G3 which in the end has broken because of the hardware issue where due to extensive heat and lack of proper heat distribution in the phone, solder has weakened and display went off. I had to apply the "paper fix" to make the phone working again but who can tell me how long will it work? And fcking LG doesn't admit that is a design problem. The same thing happens with Nexus 5x manufactured by them. My friend's nexus went into bootloop just like that.
Nope, never again I will buy LG phone. Sorry LG. And whenever someone would like to buy one I will tell them not to.
bodziec said:
Oneplus 5t because:
1) it's cheaper
2) it's back is not from glass (my G6 is already scratched)
3) software updates are released really fast. It's bad that they won't have "project treble" but still they release quickly. For example "blueborne" has been fixed in October Google security patches? LG6 still doesn't have that and is vulnerable to attacks so I can't use my BT headphones.
4) software is fast - pure android with some nice tweaks. People say LG6 is fast. Really? Sometimes it takes 5-6 seconds for my camera app to start.
5) it's OLED
6) it's cheaper !!!
7) it has notifications slider
8) headphone jack is on the bottom of the phone !!! Really LG, headphone jack at the top of the phone is a bad decision.
Previously I had LG G3 which in the end has broken because of the hardware issue where due to extensive heat and lack of proper heat distribution in the phone, solder has weakened and display went off. I had to apply the "paper fix" to make the phone working again but who can tell me how long will it work? And fcking LG doesn't admit that is a design problem. The same thing happens with Nexus 5x manufactured by them. My friend's nexus went into bootloop just like that.
Nope, never again I will buy LG phone. Sorry LG. And whenever someone would like to buy one I will tell them not to.
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That's a nice choice.OP5T is better in almost everything,but don't expect some better photos from main camera.G6 has some great software with very rich manual control that you can't get in OP5T.Everything else is better,i'm also thinking about oneplus 5t,i still can't decide what to do..
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That's a nice choice.OP5T is better in almost everything,but don't expect some better photos from main camera.G6 has some great software with very rich manual control that you can't get in OP5T.Everything else is better,i'm also thinking about oneplus 5t,i still can't decide what to do..
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But with OP5T I know what I'm paying for. Lower price -> lower photo quality. I'm ok with that.
With G6 I was told it will be "amazing" but in real life it's less than average.
Definitely not a "flagship" quality
Quality of wide angle 2.09 is fine for me and I'm satisfied. (H870S - Europe dual sim version)
Wide angle camera sample: https://photos.app.goo.gl/i9am9u2iGwhTBscI3
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. Display is definitely bright enough, not sure where you read/heard that but it's great on sunny days.
2. I've never experienced it changing brightness when opening any apps.
3. Auto brightness turns itself on when the phone is rebooted not when the screen is locked.
4. The only intensive game I have on my phone is asphalt 9 and I can play it for well over a hour with minimal heat, it gets warmish but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'd definitely recommend this phone over any other
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. This phone has best screen on direct sunlight, i can see everything with my sunglasses
2. never noticed changhing brightness
3. no idea
4. it never goes even close to hot, had shanpdragon and iphone that almost melted when having gps on, but not mate 10 pro
Thank you guys
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
Don't know if every one got it or just a few. It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
Bomber293 said:
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
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I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
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Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
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It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
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Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
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In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Good to hear I'll defenetly see one in electronic shop and probably buy it
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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My Mate 10 Pro has 0 problem
Sent from my BLA-L29 using Tapatalk
Im bored atm so i scrolled a bit and copied multiple statments from other mate 10/pro (idk) users in this forum
*One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
*yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
*I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
*I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
To summ it all up: There are many ppl with problems like clouding, brighter on left/right side and i somewhere read that a guy got a greenish matrix over his display. But there are also alot saying that theirs works fine and when you buy a phone and everything is fine most ppl dont open up a forum to say that it is fine but when there is a problem they all do it....
This awnser is not really for you two guys but for the ppl who maybe visit this thread and want to know whats up.
I'll get to a store next days and see if they got one there if it is fine i'll buy it and if i still remember or if it is broke you'll see me agian here
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
fefofefosa said:
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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No issues for me with the same variant. Had the phone for almost a year. HDR with you tube does impact it, and moving from a light to dark environment will change as it should. This phone handles auto brightness much better than my Galaxy 8 + does.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd)
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Bomber... I bought a brand new one on swappa recently and it remains as brand new. I want to root it and do advanced things, but it is not as easy as I thought. I will probably sell mine in the next day or 2. Pm me if you are interested. I live in Florida and have good ebay and swappa ratings. The phone is in mint condition with all original accessories, box, and plastic covers.
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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cfds said:
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
Yes, you will reach a point - have reached a point you don't know any more what to believe or think...Don't forget that you will only find negative feedback on the net. People in general don't post how happy they are with a phone, no they will post rather how dissatisfied they are.
Bomber293 said:
It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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True. I'll probably buy the mate 10 pro becasue idk it just feels better to me. With the upcoming updates to emui 8.2 and android pie it should be near perfect. Sure it got problems with custom roms twrp aso. but if i want to do it i'll find a way
The only way i wont take it is when the OP6 drops to 400 too
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
Dmn100 said:
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
Im using mate 10 not pro. Only have problems on my screen at bottom have yellowish tint. Already send to huawei and change the lcd two times, still the same. I guess i must live with it. To be honest, this is the best phone i have ever used. Very snappy, top notch camera, proc not have overheat issue when playing heavy games unlike my sd821 before.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
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I meant the 845 as it is the latest available Snapdragon chip in phones like the OnePlus 6 etc. My point is that the chip although not the most powerful is still plenty fast enough for most people's needs and it comfortably handles pretty much anything you throw at it. The camera in my opinion is good - when I take a photo the results to me look very good. Am I a professional photographer? No, if I was I'd have a DSLR.
As an overall package, including price, I believe that this phone is one of the best you can get right now. Of course, this will change, and if OnePlus release the 6t with stereo speakers and a 3800-4000 mah battery, I may well get that.
Hello! I have the Mi Mix 2 since it came out but I'm already looking for a replacement, and the Mix 4 seems quite interesting to me.
If anyone has any recommendations on where to buy it, I would appreciate it. In the same way, I want to ask you if it is worth it, and how the software is doing. Thank you very much!
I had a Mi 9 after my Mix 2 and now I bought the Mix 4. I am very satisfied with the device. It currently has the best price-performance ratio without having to sacrifice anything. Unlike most other models, it also has a real proximity sensor. If you don't place a lot of value on selfies, the device is just right.
I bought it at Cect-shop. Unfortunately, they have closed their store due to the current situation. You can still buy devices with confidence at Tradingshenzhen.
The current Xiaomi.eu beta is not running very well, but the stable version is fine.
I am buyed it at tradingshenzen 512gb 12Gb RAM. I want say you that Mix 5 is coming soon, wait for that. The Price ist Not much Higher i think.
First of, what do you want to do with your device? I think it's an important question you need to ask yourself.
I myself had the Mi Mix 2 for many years, was really happy with it, and i'm still using it today, though not my daily driver.
For my usage, i can really recommend the phone. Making selfies is not that great. but taking pictures with the rear-sensor-array is really nice.
I got it from Tradingshenzen. 512GB, 12GB RAM.
Hi,
Got it from Trading Shenzen too.
Really nice device... But you have to know that camera, despite what reviewers say, is really far from "invisible".
There are some occasions where you will not notice it and have the impression you have a "whole" display.
But most of the time, you will see it. And then it is MUCH bigger than any other punch hole in any other smartphone.
This alone is the reason I'm still hesitation g to keep the device to replace the Poco F2 Pro.
Everything else is great on this device : display ; battery ; SoC ; plenty of RAM in the 12GB version I have ; superb GPS precision ; nice phone calls...
Maybe speaker is a little weak, but I don't use my phone as a "speaker phone" so I don't care.
Rear camera makes great pictures.
Front camera makes really OK selfies.
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Got it from Trading Shenzen too.
Really nice device... But you have to know that camera, despite what reviewers say, is really far from "invisible".
There are some occasions where you will not notice it and have the impression you have a "whole" display.
But most of the time, you will see it. And then it is MUCH bigger than any other punch hole in any other smartphone.
This alone is the reason I'm still hesitation g to keep the device to replace the Poco F2 Pro.
Everything else is great on this device : display ; battery ; SoC ; plenty of RAM in the 12GB version I have ; superb GPS precision ; nice phone calls...
Maybe speaker is a little weak, but I don't use my phone as a "speaker phone" so I don't care.
Rear camera makes great pictures.
Front camera makes really OK selfies.
Regards.
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This is a personal taste. Imho the front camera is barely visible and In the most of the day it's impossible to see it. In low light you can notice but it's not that bad as you say.
Hi,
Indeed, it is a personal taste. But what else can it be when you're asked "Is it worth buying or not ?"
Anyways, I must say that it is true that the camera is visible TO ME because I tend to use the phone often in really low light conditions with display brightness set to almost minimum and often on solid backgrounds. And, under those conditions the location of the UDC is clearly visible.
To be perfectly honest, in other circumstances, especially as soon as brightness is a little higher, it is indeed barely visible and with backgrounds that are not solid : invisible.
All in all is it worth buying it ? At least as far as I am concerned, this is the only device that checks all my boxes. Those boxes were :
- big display
- fast SoC
- plenty RAM and ROM
- no notch or punch hole whatsoever
- fast charging
- wireless charging
There is literally no other device checking those boxes. Not only does the mix4 check all boxes, but it checks those perfectly... So yes, for me it is a device worth buying.