Hi guys,
I'm having massive problems with my phone. As you can see here, the Android System has used up 50% of my total battery and there is no way I can make it stop.
{I tried inserting images but cannot due to 'new user'. The picture basically says that Android System uses 50% of battery, when phone is at 2% battery and that the CPU on time was just over 8 hours.}
System and Apps are updated to the most recent versions.
I tried
- disabling permissions for all apps (which has led to some follow up problems, and briefly fixed the problem, but it has reappeared now)
- deleting data from Google Play Services
- deleting cached data from system storage
I didn't try factory resetting my phone, since I am hesitant to go through the hassle of backup recovery.
Any input? Might it be possible to further dissect the 'Android System' process with a program somehow, so I can see specifically which request/app is keeping the Android System busy for 8 (!!!!) hours?
This has even affected my charging times, which are now abysmal, because the f*cking process keeps on sucking energy while charging. I also frequently am putting my phone into flight mode during the day, just to extend the lifetime somewhat.
Thank you.
simonatse said:
Hi guys,
I'm having massive problems with my phone. As you can see here, the Android System has used up 50% of my total battery and there is no way I can make it stop.
{I tried inserting images but cannot due to 'new user'. The picture basically says that Android System uses 50% of battery, when phone is at 2% battery and that the CPU on time was just over 8 hours.}
System and Apps are updated to the most recent versions.
I tried
- disabling permissions for all apps (which has led to some follow up problems, and briefly fixed the problem, but it has reappeared now)
- deleting data from Google Play Services
- deleting cached data from system storage
I didn't try factory resetting my phone, since I am hesitant to go through the hassle of backup recovery.
Any input? Might it be possible to further dissect the 'Android System' process with a program somehow, so I can see specifically which request/app is keeping the Android System busy for 8 (!!!!) hours?
This has even affected my charging times, which are now abysmal, because the f*cking process keeps on sucking energy while charging. I also frequently am putting my phone into flight mode during the day, just to extend the lifetime somewhat.
Thank you.
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try one of the wakelock detectors in my case a no root one have to set up adb or throught chrome it gives instrucs but it can tell u whats keeping ure device awake
ive noticed facebook syncing locations even aftermarket messangers can do it
id start there also u can try booting into safe mode for a couple days and see if its a rouge 3rd party app if safe mode proves effective try disabling all 3rd party apps and ever 2 hours or so reenable 1 by one and see if one of them are causing it
Do you use any Phone case?
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barisbayrak said:
Do you use any Phone case?
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What does a case have to do with it?
I used that case and my battery Was draining fast. Than now i dont use it and my battery Come to normal
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Yes you heard it right ,i have tested this on two phones with xposed install
i have tested this for 5 days
greenify makes eats up your battery so fast and actuall battery wont gets swollen so easily
test it yourself i have tested many times and found greenify the culprit
i dont know how actually works the way it hibernates but after uninstalling you can see significant change in your battery
thanks
Maybe a problem of your setup.
Jasi2169 said:
Yes you heard it right ,i have tested this on two phones with xposed install
i have tested this for 5 days
greenify makes eats up your battery so fast and actuall battery wont gets swollen so easily
test it yourself i have tested many times and found greenify the culprit
i dont know how actually works the way it hibernates but after uninstalling you can see significant change in your battery
thanks
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When this has happened to me (and it has) I found that greenify and another app were in a war, greenify was forcibly trying to hibernate the app and the app kept forcibly waking up from hibernation causing greenify to hibernate it again (repeat until battery is dead).
muiriddin said:
When this has happened to me (and it has) I found that greenify and another app were in a war, greenify was forcibly trying to hibernate the app and the app kept forcibly waking up from hibernation causing greenify to hibernate it again (repeat until battery is dead).
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yes and my battery never last for 12 hours with greenify but without greenify it last over 24hours thn i put it for charging
Jasi2169 said:
yes and my battery never last for 12 hours with greenify but without greenify it last over 24hours thn i put it for charging
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However, the solution was simple, just do not greenify the app causing the war. Then the apps that were greenified would play nice and the other apps are free to go about there business. I do not believe greenify was intended to have all of your apps in the list. Just ugly nasty battery draining, refusing to quit ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
u knw i dnt have bloat installd lyk fb messngr or so,i have only wwhtsapp to talk to my gf n frnds nd just sme apps but without greenify im happy cus i dnt have battery prblm then why use greenify no need
if u put battery code in ur build.prop to monitor u will c greenify keeps eatng battery
Unlucky for you. I notice much better battery stats WITH Greenify running. Always have.
Totally noob bs. Must be other problem. Recently tried few days both devices without Greenify. Battery drains so much more and faster. Also unmodded LP Preview on Art on my N7-13 tiny bit more battery life than KK on Dalvik unmodded. However KK modded with X-modules (Greenify extra, Amplify, etc) hours extra battery life.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 (2013), iPad Mini 2 of Moto G Lte
i think since i have install greenify my battery is draning faster
juliatan said:
Totally noob bs. Must be other problem. Recently tried few days both devices without Greenify. Battery drains so much more and faster. Also unmodded LP Preview on Art on my N7-13 tiny bit more battery life than KK on Dalvik unmodded. However KK modded with X-modules (Greenify extra, Amplify, etc) hours extra battery life.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 (2013), iPad Mini 2 of Moto G Lte
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im just saying abt my experience i have edited and build.prop and put the battery codes in it for its logs and what i found i told ,,no bs i have pretty well knowledge abt these stuff brother
i dnt knw it work for other people or not but in my case definitely no even with donated version
if its work for then u lucky
... So much self ego unchecked. Let's not all be modest...
It did after update
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muiriddin said:
However, the solution was simple, just do not greenify the app causing the war. Then the apps that were greenified would play nice and the other apps are free to go about there business. I do not believe greenify was intended to have all of your apps in the list. Just ugly nasty battery draining, refusing to quit ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
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how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
War Detection...
skiier54 said:
how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
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In my case a set of apps had been updated around the time my battery drain had started. I removed the apps that had been updated and seemed to always be awake from the hibernation list and added them back one at a time (per day in my case) and found that a version of Microsoft's OneDrive was refusing to hibernate properly. Once I removed it from the list my problem went away. Another clue for me was the fact that the problematic version of OneDrive was showing up in the battery usage screen for android when it was greenified when it had never been there before...
A later version of onedrive has fixed the problem and last I tried you could now hibernate that app again...
Another approach is to unhibernate everything and add the apps back to the list one at a time observing the behavior.
muiriddin said:
In my case a set of apps had been updated around the time my battery drain had started. I removed the apps that had been updated and seemed to always be awake from the hibernation list and added them back one at a time (per day in my case) and found that a version of Microsoft's OneDrive was refusing to hibernate properly. Once I removed it from the list my problem went away. Another clue for me was the fact that the problematic version of OneDrive was showing up in the battery usage screen for android when it was greenified when it had never been there before...
A later version of onedrive has fixed the problem and last I tried you could now hibernate that app again...
Another approach is to unhibernate everything and add the apps back to the list one at a time observing the behavior.
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hm okay that makes sense. one of my apps (peel smart remote) always seemed to be un-hibernated even though i never opened it so i disabled it. lets see what happens
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how do i find which app is "causing the war?"
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A way to find out is to lock your device, let it with the screen off for like 5 minutes, unlock it and open Greenify. See if there is any app that's not hibernated. Those that aren't you must remove them from the list to be hibernated.
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...ones like facebook (which I do not even have installed).
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I'd like to be able to use the Facebook app, but, wouldn't dream of installing it w/o Greenify.
Android should have built in the default setting that any apps you install do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING unless you actually HAVE THEM OPEN. Checking for updates, giving you notifications, etc. should all come off by default and only go on when a user chooses to specifically turn them on!
Ok so after the Lollipop update my battery life has been less than stellar. On kit kat i would usually have around 40% battery life left at the end of a day with medium use but now with lollipop I'm ending the day closer to 15% with the same use. This is usually with between 2 and 3 hours SOT. The only thing I've noticed that is any different is google services seems to be using more battery than normal, not a ton but more. Also i cant seem to get it to go into low battery use in location setting, it always stays on high battery use even when in battery savings mode. Anyone with thoughts on this?
Have you tried using greenify? It stops apps from refreshing in the background and if you buy the pro version you can stop system apps from refreshing. You may want to try this xposed module it will go and save major battery. I personally am on barepop (I uninstalled some extra apps though) and have both apps running in the background and I it takes about 10 minuates for the battery to die by even 1%. By the time I wake up and use my phone with heavy use all day long (6am-4pm est) I get home without about 60-65% of battery. You may also want to turn things off when your not using them such as data/nfc and bluetooth.
Xposed module: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce
Xposed link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
I am not rooted and am trying to stay that way, at least for a while. I do have greenify but only the free version so it is kind of limited. I haven't found any wakelock detectors that work without root so i cant get any real specifics on whats causing the drain. I just find it strange that google services will not go into low battery mode.
Try this guide it should allow you to stop apps from running in the background:http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2trjxf/xpost_rlgg3_the_g3_has_a_hidden_nonroot
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Try this guide it should allow you to stop apps from running in the background:http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2trjxf/xpost_rlgg3_the_g3_has_a_hidden_nonroot
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thanks, ill look into it
OK Best of luck.
Nothing in there for anything related to Google services. I don't know why it wont go into low battery usage, i checked all my Google settings and still cant figure it out.
Ok, well today i decided to just uninstall updates for google services, reboot, install the updates, and reboot again. And after dealing with the phone telling me there was no sim card twice, everything seemed to go back to normal, no more high battery usage from google services.
I've had the phone since the beginning of December. Right since then, I have had battery drain no matter what. In the first days I experienced it even overnight, I am pretty sure with airplane mode activated....
Later on, I wiped the cache from the recovery mode, didn't fix it. I used that 'GService fix' kind of magical app that everybody said it fixed their problems...it didn't fix mine. I performed a hard reset and I did not restore the google account apps, instead I manually downloaded only the apps that I really needed.
There is no apparent pattern on when the battery drain starts: I would find my phone hot and very rapidly discharging (if not already discharged), battery temp hot and cpu temp hot. I disabled all google now functions, I disabled GPS, at first I disabled only some google functions (kept only google keep, calendar and contacts on automatic sync)....but then a couple days ago I disabled the whole automatic sync. Battery still drained without using the phone.
I had read that one reason why google service would take so much battery would be having multiple accounts, or having some problems related with google play games and its sync. I do have games installed on my phone, and they require google play games to work, so that one is installed on the device but I also read that 'people details' under google account settings is relevant to the google play games sync. And in any case as I already said, the whole automatic sync has been disabled in the past 2 days, yet today the phone drained the battery while in my pocket.
I cannot understand what is going on. I am using GSAM to try to monitor things, but till now I have only been able to understand when was the battery drain starting and when was it stopping. I never found the reason. If I choose 'since screen off' on GSAM, I can see that it is again google play services taking most of the battery.
I can see with those softwares (3c toolbox, GSAM) some things, many of them I don't understand and some of them I don't even know how to set. It's pretty useless to know that suddenly my cpu goes high in clock and keeps 90/100% load if I don't know why. There is no rogue app, otherwise it would show on top, right? I can provide these two screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/wPgGlu7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9hbVG0I.jpg
First screenshot: I had the phone on my desk since 2 days or so. Wifi on, no gps, no sync. I went out around 12:00 and that seems to be exactly the time when the battery drain started. If I choose in GSAM 'since screen off', google services is on top of the list. Unfortunately this cannot be very much relate with mobile data or so, because I have experienced battery drain even with airplane mode or at home with wifi enabled. Second screenshot: I don't know what to make of those packages......
I know that other people with the Axon 7 had the same problem, I googled a lot, didn't solve anything.....and I also know that anyway on any phone this can happen. I had very randomly the same problem on the Nexus 5 but never gave it too much attention because it wasn't too bothering, it was happening every once in a while, but with this Axon 7 I am touching it every 10 minutes to see if it's burning hot or not, constantly afraid to take it out of the pocket and find it with 10% left of battery.....
Had battery drain issues and exchanged my phone under warranty. Now all is good.
huntnyc said:
Had battery drain issues and exchanged my phone under warranty. Now all is good.
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Assuming you're rooted, install betterybatterystats (search for it on xda). Use the phone as you normally would. After 6-12 hours, look at the results. It should give you an idea of what's keeping the phone awake.
Here the same problem. Irregular at intervals of 1-2 days. New installation of Google Play services no change. Restart helps only a short time.
The problem:
Cpu %
34 com.google.android.gms.persistent
04 com.google.android.gms
01 com.google.android.gapps
A2017G Build B09
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Fisher17 said:
Here the same problem. Irregular at intervals of 1-2 days. New installation of Google Play services no change. Restart helps only a short time.
The problem:
Cpu %
34 com.google.android.gms.persistent
04 com.google.android.gms
01 com.google.android.gapps
A2017G Build B09
Sorry, Google translation
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yes! same thing with me. Google Backup Transport process fires up and eats battery for no reason. Doesn't matter if backup is enabled or disabled, I also disabled appdata sync. I posted two or 3 times in this community group as well:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1421198214846418/permalink/1431610953805144/
What rom are you using?
stock, didn't change anything and to be honest should not need to (and not even want to).
My plan: try to find a solution. Good that at least I nailed it to the process (google backup transport - gms.persistent etc etc) and can research from there. I already found tons of people who had the same problems with tons of different devices and even android version (just google com.google.android.gms.persistent battery drain and you'll find the forums full of threads....of course everybody fixed it in the most different ways, none of which worked for me till now).
2nd plan: wait for the nougat update at the end of the month and see what happens
3rd plan: change device (warranty).
I am aware it is not a hardware problem, it must be some loop in the sync (but it happens even with sync off) or a bug in google services.
Hmmm, could you say you "just can't sleep" over it?
Sorry folks, friday post
Batter Battery Stats is usually a very good way to check for rogue apps, tho.
Battery drain commes with B09! B08 i had no drain at all with B09 i have a ugly battery drain.
C.H.T.J. said:
Battery drain commes with B09! B08 i had no drain at all with B09 i have a ugly battery drain.
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caused by what? By the way This is my update screen, why is it showing B04 and still saying that it is up to date? I have auto updates and I also checked manually but it says it is up to date.
Fisher17 said:
Here the same problem. Irregular at intervals of 1-2 days. New installation of Google Play services no change. Restart helps only a short time.
A2017G Build B09
Sorry, Google translation
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Fixed issue with Google Play Service 10.2.91 (440-144333517). Axon 7 runtime 5 days without battery drain. :good:
Fisher17 said:
Fixed issue with Google Play Service 10.2.91 (440-144333517). Axon 7 runtime 5 days without battery drain. :good:
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5 days?? How much do you actually use the phone??
I don't know what was the cause. It was either a loop fail backup of google photos, or the update from B04 to B08 fixed it. No more drain, battery easily lasts 2 days without heavy use of the phone.
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5 days?? How much do you actually use the phone??
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:laugh: 5 days without reboot. 2 days with one load. 8 hours display time at 24 usage.
All the US stock firmwares have the battery drain. It's usually google backup transport or google persistent gms. A reboot will fix it usually, but it will occur again later... Battery life is fine other than those 2. Let's hope lineage will be ok.
I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 S625 global variant (4/64GB).
Like a day or so ago, I noticed a quick battery drain (from 100 to 24% after a whole night idle and 2 - 3 hours of heavy use the next day) and from there it was dropping a percent every 2nd-3rd minute. It never happened before as its a 4000mAh battery and usually lasts around 2 days on normal use. I'm new to the smartphone world and I was reading online about the usual causes of battery drain including background apps consuming it and overcharging issue damaging the battery. I got worried as last night it was indeed left plugged in for like 2 - 3 hours maybe after a full charge. So either the battery is damaged due to overcharging, or its some software issue. Now what I noticed is the CPU usage is maxed with no app running in the background. I don't know if CPU-Z's usage info is accurate, but it's 100% when battery is like 15 or lower and 40-50% when battery is 20 or above. Maybe there's some background process or maybe its normal, I don't know. I'm pretty clueless at this point.
Really appreciate if anyone helped me on this one. Thanks.
Battery will not overcharge, you dont have to worry about that.
Try to factory reset and use the phone without installing any apps, and see if the issue is gone, so you will know 1 of the apps is causing it.
You can also try to use apps like BetterBatteryStats which shows you which app used how much battery/cpu etc. You can also find which app is wakelocking phone.
k3lcior said:
Battery will not overcharge, you dont have to worry about that.
Try to factory reset and use the phone without installing any apps, and see if the issue is gone, so you will know 1 of the apps is causing it.
You can also try to use apps like BetterBatteryStats which shows you which app used how much battery/cpu etc. You can also find which app is wakelocking phone.
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Thanks. I was also thinking of factory resetting it. What I've noticed is that on low battery, 4 of the cores of SD 625 are switched off. Maybe that's why the load is on other 4 and it's showing 100%. I really have no idea. It would be helpful if anyone suggests good battery usage apps and any app that shows realtime CPU usage of different apps/services in phone. I've tried some but they aren't really helpful. Will try BetterBatteryStats.
I had the same Problem too
I had the same problem a few months back, I reset the phone that day but then the problem came up today again. This time I did some testing and now I think the problem is with CPU-Z itself.
You see when the phone heats up the first time (for whatever reason) the MIUI OS automatically resets all APP settings. So CPU-Z's settings get reset and so it starts reading ALL the sensors again. Which uses a lot of battery and increases CPU load. So whenever you open CPU-Z the battery starts draining again but this time because of CPU-Z too.
And I'm pretty sure some other reasons would be there too for the Battery Drain but CPU-Z sensors reading are quite heavy.
Edit: A quick way to fix it would be to set it to "Restrict Background Activity" mode in MIUI App Battery Saver.
I had the same problem too. I've already uninstall many app, but this problem still occure. I still have no idea to this one.
Anyone can help?
Try this:
1. Settings > installed apps > Duo (or Google Duo)
2. Remove all updates to Google Duo
3. Go to PlayStore > Google Duo > Click the 3 dots (top right) > unclick "Enable auto-update"
My note 4 is cool again and the batteries lasts again.
minidisco said:
Try this:
1. Settings > installed apps > Duo (or Google Duo)
2. Remove all updates to Google Duo
3. Go to PlayStore > Google Duo > Click the 3 dots (top right) > unclick "Enable auto-update"
My note 4 is cool again and the batteries lasts again.
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This worked for mine too, thanks!
How did you know that's what it was?
oohms said:
This worked for mine too, thanks!
How did you know that's what it was?
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Don't give me credit please. I read it on an other post here, from a guy that read it, well, on an other post.
But the important thing is that it worked for me, and seems for you too. I keep a close eye on my Note 4 now and so far all is cool (literally).
Thanks for sharing...
minidisco said:
Try this:
1. Settings > installed apps > Duo (or Google Duo)
2. Remove all updates to Google Duo
3. Go to PlayStore > Google Duo > Click the 3 dots (top right) > unclick "Enable auto-update"
My note 4 is cool again and the batteries lasts again.
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I was experiencing exactly the same problem & your solution worked for me... Thanks a lot
Uninstalling the Google Duo update worked for me
Uninstalling the Google Duo update did not fix the issue for me... still draining fast.
I had the same problem, it started probably a few weeks ago, pero it became more noticeable a couple days ago.
It seem it is solving the heating and draining issue for the moment
thanks, i'll keep you posted
What can I use to check to see what's causing my phone to not go into deep sleep mode at night or during the day. My batter all of the sudden is draining way too fast and almost dies at night.
Inside your settings there should be app called battery/ device health/ digital well being
It keeps track of app usage and battery drainage (this works if you dont have custom mods)
next it could be that your device is running in performance mode the whole time
flairepathos.info said:
Inside your settings there should be app called battery/ device health/ digital well being
It keeps track of app usage and battery drainage (this works if you dont have custom mods)
next it could be that your device is running in performance mode the whole time
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I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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But better battery stats will use more of your battery since its logging everything, all the time. And has your phone always been draining fast or is this something new?
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But better battery stats will use more of your battery since its logging everything, all the time. And has your phone always been draining fast or is this something new?
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I know it will but I can at least see what's going on for the short term. No, this just seemed to start about a week ago so I'm trying to figure out what new apps I may have installed.
steelersmb said:
I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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Leave power management disabled; ID and deal with each battery hog on a case by case basis.
Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker can be useful.
Karma Firewall. Package Disabler (not on Playwhore).
For starters:
Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase... prime suspects.
Playstore, wretched apk it is.
Google play Services is another one to watch, try disabling it. A lot of apps are dependencies of it.
Any cloud apps.
All carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback
WhatsApp, FB, etc, take out the trash.
Carrier update app, kill it if you don't want OTA updates jammed down your throat.
blackhawk said:
Leave power management disabled; ID and deal with each battery hog on a case by case basis.
Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker can be useful.
Karma Firewall. Package Disabler (not on Playwhore).
For starters:
Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase... prime suspects.
Playstore, wretched apk it is.
Google play Services is another one to watch, try disabling it. A lot of apps are dependencies of it.
Any cloud apps.
All carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback
WhatsApp, FB, etc, take out the trash.
Carrier update app, kill it if you don't want OTA updates jammed down your throat.
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Would it be possible to explain to me why have an S21 if not to deactivate everything and make it a Nokia 3310. Stop using a smartphone, I have the solution ........... .
And if you have twrp and copy your system and vendore partition files to your pc you can also look in the priv-app section and their xmls to include apps to not run always