[RUMOR] 2017 Compact phone - will you buy it? - Sony Xperia X Compact Guides, News, & Discussion

So there has been a few rumors saying sony has plans to reveal a new compact phone at IFA 2017 (along with a flagship).
If you havent already hear you might wanna check out Xperiablog.net
So are you guys gonna buy it, if it's true, or not?
Im totally satisfied with XC, it's smooth, good looking design, feels good in hand, good screen quality and battery life, but,
I will buy it if sony reveals a compact phone with below features:
- Flagship CPU and more RAM
- less bezel
- Reasonable price (it's very less likely but anyway...)
What about you guys?

Definitely. I'm tired of my Z5C. Can't do anything with this burning 810. Without it throttling 5 years back in time.
I've been watching this for some time now. I hope they nail the design. Spec-wise it sounds pretty good to me.

Depending on the design I'll be selling my XC at the first instance upon release.

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Moving from Z1 compact to Z5 compact? . . . . or what?

I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life YES
IPXX Certification YES
Magnetic/fast charging YES
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs YES
5 poles audio jack YES
Memory card support YES
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6 YES
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night YES
The fastest mobile GPU available YES
Mini/Compact body desing YES
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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SO YES Upgrade to XZ5c
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[email protected] said:
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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Bro, just get the Z5 compact......unless if you are picky on the design and pricey, then get the Z3 compact
Okay
So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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That's true at this moment. The manufacturers are all looking for the big screens.[emoji174]
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
Unfortunately, the Z5 compact is the only hi-end (2015) Android phone with small size. Your other 2015 option is the iPhone 6S but it has a totally different OS as you probably know.
Other old options are:
Z3 compact: still a good phone, still supported, not too old.
Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
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Yeah, I read that about the volume button position. But, Ok, it's nothing really severe.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 too. Do you feel the camera better or worse? (I really like the HDR+ quality of the Nexus 5).
I have moved from Z3c into Z5c and I can't complain. The only issue i have is its little but slippy but my old iPhone was that too.
Build quality is very good as well as screen and speakers (which are btw louder than in Z3c)
New UI looks more vanilla which if you are Nexus fan a good think (I am )
I havent tested camera yet nor battery life but it drops around 4% in 7 hours standby (considering push emails, bt on)
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Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I recently sold an unlocked Moto X 2013 and it had Lollipop on it. I doubt it will get updated again but it was good to get it to 5.1.
About z5c vs nexus 5 camera: I can't compare because after I dropped my nexus, the camera became useless. It could not focus anymore.

Should I buy the Z2?

Can anyone tell me any downsides to this phone? Is there a better choice? Is it worth the money?
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IMHO Not worth it anymore. Marshmallow MAY BE the last big update. It is a 2 years old phone, Is still a capable device, but it is starting to show its age.
Z3+ or a LG G4 is very worth it although both arent new devices
This device has grown a bit old and is on its last few updates (or so goes the 2 year support time)
I have the Xperia z2, I've had it for 2 years now.
1) The battery life is good.
2)Performance (It can play gta sa on max with no lag or very little).
3)The Noise Cancelling Earphones that come with it are amazing.
4)The Xda community has a lot of support for this phone. You can find all kinds of roms for it.
5)However the last update for it will be marshmallow. (I am running the beta 6.0.1)
I would tell you to buy the z3 because they are now in the somewhat same price range. Or if you have the money the G4.
If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask me. Keep in mind everything I say is my personal opinion and is subject to my own personal use.
If you don't have a lot of money, you can get a good phone for a good price. The z2 has everything you need, fantastic qc801 and even 3gb of RAM.
There are some cons:
-no fingerprint sensor
-no qi (but magnetic charger. Keep in mind, you can hold your phone in your hand and use or with magnetic charger, with qi this would be... not so good.)
-USB hidden behind plastic cap. This is crap, they made it better from z3 onward.
As I bought mine like 15 months ago, it was like: why buy a z3 if you can have a z2 for less money? They are almost identical.
Today the price gap may be smaller, so z3 could be more attractive.
I have mine for about a year and half and I wouldn't switch... Before Z2, I used Nexus 4,5 and I've never really complaint about battery life, but after having Z2 for some time... Can't imagine having smaller battery.. It's one of those things, that you get used to so easily... Plus Android is nearly stock, not filled with tons of bloatware, and generally smooth and enjoyable to use.
If you're thinking about Z3/Z2, then I would guess it doesn't really matter which one you choose, since they are quite similar.
In the end, it really depends on what you prefer/need.. If you're really about top new technologies like fingerprint sensor, etc. then you might be disappointed after some time for not having it, but if you are looking for a phone that has very good battery life, display, performance and also looks pretty nice, then I'm sure you'll like it...
Yes it worths if you find it at a good price (maybe second-hand in good condition) , Z3 has 90% same specs as Z2 , same cpu , same memory , same screen and same features .
Here are my personal opinions about Z2 :
The cpu is fast enough to handle any app/game nowadays , I still didn't see any lag even in heavy games , I don't belive in those dual quads , is useless since the phone uses only one quad a time and it's more a commercial thing .
Memory is big enough (3Gb) , maybe too big , I had a S4 with 2Gb and NEVER filled even 1.5Gb and I was on 5.1.1 , actually the 6.0 uses less memory so is even better .
Screen is OK , I admit an AMOLED would be much better but the actual screen on Z2 is just fine , I came from an AMOLED phone (S4) and I got used to TFT really quick .
Battery is the simply the best from all smartphones I had , I am on CM12.1 and I just changed hotplug to MSM-mpdecision wich shuts down unused cores and I get almost 3 days with normal use (internet + calls + wifi all the time) and same smoothness as normal .
Software updates : Marshmallow is the last one for sure , but I just don't care because I will always use Cyanogen versions of ROMS since I hate stock roms full of bloats .
In my honest opinion fingerprint , infrared , heartrate , humidity and temperature sensors are just pointless features added for marketing .
Watch this video , what this guy says there is very true , people are getting easily manipulated with pointless new features by these smartphones companies .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkVQk2ypTg

Is the z5C still worth buying?

The z5c came out almost 1 year ago, do you guys think the z5c is still worth buying?
What do you guys think? If no, what would you consider buying, considering the z5c as first option?
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i think yes, small phone, great performance, great camera, didn't have any problems in 5 months except camera lens, but devilcase lens protector fixed that, i would buy again
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I bought it 2 months ago. Totally happy with it. No problems up to now.
I wanted a small phone with good performance, and this one was the only one that fitted these criteria.
My 2nd option was iPhone SE... since I came from an iPhone 4S, I was a bit tired of iOS. Personally I think Android Marshmallow is in a really good shape when compared to iOS, in my opinion it is even better.
Buy.
bought one yesterday. Its the best small phone i could find for the $380 i spent. iPhone SE is about the only other 1 i would have considered.
If you dont require a sd slot there are better options.
I picked one up for USD370 (including shipping) for my wife. She had a Z3C before and loved it, but the screen stopped responding. For that price it is an amazing phone.
The latest firmware almost fixed all stuffs, the phone is pretty usable and finally safe to buy and recommended now. The only thing disapointed me is the photo/video quality still not as good as my older Z1c at high ISO(the sensor indeed got 25MP not only 23MP which is over crowed on a small 1/2.3" size) but no doubt Z5c focus speed and camera speed way faster and screen much much clear.
I think yes if you want to buy a small flagship phone. It's just great in everything, almost. I bought it on February and I love this phone.
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Responsive touchscreen
No lag in almost every game and apps even in high graphics
The camera is awesome (front and rear). but sadly it's can't run the camera over 25 min in 4k. The autofocus actually fast this will be great when you record a video. You can make a bokeh, hdr, or a long exposure pictures. And it's camera is also good in low light.
I like the keyboard, you can swipe like swift keyboard and the auto correct is very usefull
The battery life good also, I got 6-8 hours in normal use (social media, music and browsing) and 4-5 hours when I play fifa 16
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The phone getting hot very fast when you use the camera, and play online game like fifa 16.
For me it recently sure was. As a former iPhone 5 user I wanted to switch to Android on a small (< 5" screen) high-end device. Early 2015 I choose a Z3C based on these criteria. Very nice in almost any way, though camera -especially rooted- was kind of crappy.
I recently upgraded to the Z5C based on the same search criteria. It seems that most manufacturers tend to put more low-end hardware in smaller devices, here Sony has done a nice job. I considered the Samsung Galaxy A3, though the Z5C came out best for me.
I look forward to the day that a more complete and stable version of Cyanogenmod will be released for the Z3C This is likely to make my Z35 experience optimal.
I had a z3c, love the small size and massive capabilities. I replaced it with the z5c about 8 months ago. There is no other device on the market I would rather have. Even tried a galaxy S6 for a bit... Hated every moment of having that one.
My only beef with its I cannot have any special software that comes from having a vendor branded device. (No VOIP on AT&T)
Bought one month before. Best decision according to me. But not the best for those who doesnt want small size or fm radio.
How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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Most of the guys that claim good stories are unrooted so you know they don't actually use their phones. I've had great results in power consumption and heat with androplus v34, but it comes at the price of performance.
My 2 are rooted (one with dry restrored) and running xposed,and xpower rom. Both seem to be faster and smoother than my sons' - much bulkier - m8 and iPhone 6. Can't find anything close to the quality of this phone at this convenient size.
I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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Small
microSD
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I like the screen very much
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2 GB RAM which means apps unload faster than you can say "but I just opened two tabs in Chrome"
gets hot even without gaming (I reinstalled the software just in case but it didn't help)
no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
S6 looks like on the same boat stuck with 1 April security patches. 720P required less memory intensive. Z3c is very easy to get touch screen problem after one year and the camera quality even worse than Z1c. I don't satisfied with Z5c but the price is dropping so I think still worth for new owner.
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I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
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Are you on the latest software? Because i owned the z3c and now the z5c and besides the battery life i love this phone way more. Camera is far better and the software runs pretty smooth also even with a sheet load of apps in the ram is still fast.
Actually, the other important thing bugged me is the slow AC wifi speed but since the compact model got only single wifi antenna(Z5 got dual wifi antenna), it is impossible to top out wifi if you got a damn fast Internet connection and router like me.
When you build a NAS or share files via router, the Z5c can't playback ultra quality videos(like the video shoot from a DSLR at 100M+ 4K) though the connection detected at 433Mbps but in reality, I got only 70~120Mbps around. The speed is faster than 802.11b/g/n and good for general Internet purpose but only reached the very entry quality of AC speed.
Plus the rom I'm running Xpower 3.0(.224) bugged to browser vidoes shared out via win10 smb. I can view any photo but can't playback all videos, tested to roll back 5.1.1 and no problem. Not sure if .253 fixed the issue, been waiting for Xpower 4.0(.253) to release.
Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
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Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
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Real hard to solve without root. If you root it, you can flash the Increase thermal-performance mod plus lower down the max cpu clock for the price of slower speed. In my experiences, they are quite a helping hand but sure can't fix all, might be 50% better experiences though.
If the X Compact with sd820 is real coming up, probably it can fix the heat issue(even so, sd820 is also hot). But I doubt I will switch to Xc bcoz Z5c already spend me much money, or only until the price dropping a lot next year.

X Compact overpriced

Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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Real street price in the whole Hong Kong down to 3798 now but I think still a bit high but more accepatble now.
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Real street price in the whole Hong Kong down to 3798 now but I think still a bit high but more accepatble now.
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I will probably let the price drop before I go for it.
I returned my Z5 Compact for a full refund (charger wouldn't go in any more) and the X Compact was exactly the same price (£360). Otherwise I would not have gotten the X Compact. Hopefully they figure out a locked bootloader root for Android N though!
Personally I'd go for it.. Mine was worth every penny. The camera seems a huge improvement over the z5 and it runs so smooth, could easily be fooled in thinking it has 820 snapdragon.
I consistently get 5-6+ hours SOT too, with heavy usage.
Here in Sweden the XC has basically the same price as the Z5C - which one would you go for? I'm tempted to take the Z5C because we have root and some mods and 4K videos - but the XC seems to have the better camera overall..
Hey Guys! I'm planning to get the X Compact to replace my Z3 Compact as my second phone, is the battery life good? Or possibly even better than the Z3's?
Thanks in advance
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Hey Guys! I'm planning to get the X Compact to replace my Z3 Compact as my second phone, is the battery life good? Or possibly even better than the Z3's?
Thanks in advance
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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out of curiosity, what's your primary phone and what would you consider as alternative to the x compact?
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out of curiosity, what's your primary phone and what would you consider as alternative to the x compact?
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My Primary phone is currently the S7 Exynos, it used to be the Z3 Compact and I had the Z1 Compact as my secondary ( before I sold it ). Not advertising here or anything but I suggest for now you try different brands, since Sony atm is overpriced, you could get a significantly better device for like half the price of their current flagships.
A good alternative to the X Compact if you are looking for a compact phone would be the Z5 Compact. It has better community support and generally is a faster phone compared to the X Compact, otherwise I'd recommend the S7 Exynos or the G5, both are great phones for their price, especially the G5 which is kind of cheap right now compared to other flagships. The removable battery is also a plus.
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Here in Sweden the XC has basically the same price as the Z5C - which one would you go for? I'm tempted to take the Z5C because we have root and some mods and 4K videos - but the XC seems to have the better camera overall..
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Z5c got TA backup so no void warranty with root and started to have some mods or customer kenerl/rom to flash now. But that phone real gets hot without thermal mod and stock camera bad without mod camera, with rooting the phone is good to use, without root no doubt XC is better.
Camera is the most important thing to me. I'm also thinking to up to XC for the laser focus and IR sensor but after used the Z5c mod cam, my plan is pushed back bcoz the z5c cam is better now. I'll wait for XC price go down next year.
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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I had the Z5C for a year, the XC is faster and has a comfortably better battery life versus the Z5C.
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Revontheus said:
My Primary phone is currently the S7 Exynos, it used to be the Z3 Compact and I had the Z1 Compact as my secondary ( before I sold it ). Not advertising here or anything but I suggest for now you try different brands, since Sony atm is overpriced, you could get a significantly better device for like half the price of their current flagships.
A good alternative to the X Compact if you are looking for a compact phone would be the Z5 Compact. It has better community support and generally is a faster phone compared to the X Compact, otherwise I'd recommend the S7 Exynos or the G5, both are great phones for their price, especially the G5 which is kind of cheap right now compared to other flagships. The removable battery is also a plus.
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Have you actually owned either the Z5C or the XC? Because it's extremely obvious the X Compact is faster.
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I had the Z5C for a year, the XC is faster and has a comfortably better battery life versus the Z5C.
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Have you actually owned either the Z5C or the XC? Because it's extremely obvious the X Compact is faster.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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I thought the Z5C has better benchmarks? I don't really pay attention to benchmarks, all I really care about is real world usage. It's easy to spot that the X Compact is faster than the Z5 Compact in real world usage.
In the UK, on amazon, the X Compact is cheaper than the Z5C. I returned my Z5C because the charger wouldn't go in, if the Z5C was the same price I would've gotten that but I'm glad I didn't.
I think the Z5C is much more beautiful than the X Compact. X compact is easier to hold though.
I agree about the price tag (mine cost £360, exactly what I paid for the Z5C last year). There is definitely better phones for the money, but I have small hands
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
Z5c SD810 got a much faster GPU over XC SD650 before it suffered from heating issue. XC is faster bcoz it got 3GB ram in multi-tasking or play resources hogging games. I've played XZ and XC in phone store, I don't think normal use XC faster actually I felt Z5c is acting faster with it's unbeatable gpu. And yes, I think XC is quite ugly.....
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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I do own the phone, and the battery gives me several days which includes playing videos via 4g, number of phone calls constant data push notifications for emails etc.
I've not even started to tweak it yet as I don't feel the need. I've read a number of these reviews too, and things like 'the battery capacity is lower than [insert whatever]. A direct compare clearly isn't taking into account the fact that the XC sips its power carefully, rather than drinking pints at a time.
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I do own the phone, and the battery gives me several days which includes playing videos via 4g, number of phone calls constant data push notifications for emails etc.
I've not even started to tweak it yet as I don't feel the need. I've read a number of these reviews too, and things like 'the battery capacity is lower than [insert whatever]. A direct compare clearly isn't taking into account the fact that the XC sips its power carefully, rather than drinking pints at a time.
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Agree. I charged my phone on Friday, was out for the whole weekend and only needed to charge it on Monday (this is with Google now turned off and email on manual checking).
With google now and email push I get 2.5 days of charge. Battery life is insane on this phone.
I don't know why people who don't own the phone feel like they're in a position to offer opinions or advice to other people.
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That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
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In real worlds usage XC is comfortably faster, do you even own this phone? Because it's very obvious it's much faster.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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The price of the XC is now $449. This makes it a no brainer imo. The z5c I had was slow as molasses
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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I have just bough one from eBay (brand new, sealed, two years warranty) for 361€. In Amazon UK now it's priced £359.99. The best money I've ever spent on phones.

Is the Xperia 1 worth the upgrade?

I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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Sony is always the first to update new versión and sell 1 phone no pixel con new version android in october
The 4k oled 21: 9 screen is addictive since I don't want 16: 9 screens to go 18: 9.
The flying phone has android stock with addictive features.
The battery is neither bad nor excellent I always arrive at bedtime with a battery
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I really like this phone...eventhough not perfect.
Itd easy to handle with one hand in portrait
Camera its not perfect but among the best.
AhsanU said:
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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its depend, but one thing for sure when you pick sony xperia 1 ,you will get overall new experience on watching movies.
I was in the same position as you @AhsanU. I had the OnePlus 7 pro 256/12gb combo nebula blue and I traded it 2 days ago for a piano black Xperia 1. From my early experience I can tell you a few things.
I love the form factor, the Op7p feels a lot bigger even tho the Xperia is slightly taller. The Xperia screen defaults to 1080p but it isn't a big problem because it's super sharp and watching 4k content is insane. I hated the curved edges of the Op7p. You won't even notice the 90hz display difference.
Battery life is about equal with both device even tho the Xperia has a smaller battery, Sony optimization and the default 1080p screen mode helps there. I do however miss warp charge but the Xperia has power delivery, I have to buy a new car charger and additional USB type c cable.
Speakers are on par, the haptic feedback on Sony is way better, I can't stress this enough. Many times I'd miss notification while my phone was on vibrate on the Op7p.
Camera so far are very comparable with the X1 slightly taking the advantage, both camera suffers when the subject is moving, I have a 2 year old who can't sit still and it's a pain to capture him with both cameras compared to the super fast s10+ and iPhone xs max.
That's all I can think of for now.
Coming from a Note 9 & Galaxy S10+, here's my opinion:
The Sony fits what you need it to fit, what I mean by that is, devices can be tailored more for you than others by having different features etc.
The Note 9 & S10+ where both great, however they where great at being all round good, I felt they didn't stand out in a lot of aspects, which is where the Sony gets the advantage.. the software on Sony is leaps ahead of Samsung, don't get me wrong, OneUI is so much better than the older software and feels smoother, however Sony's feels much more refined and flows better in my opinion.
I know how the 3300mAh battery looks on paper but in my experience it's held up well and something you should be too concerned about, is it the best? No, does it need to be?, Not really, of course it would benefit from a larger cell but is 3300mAh enough to make me not want the phone? Hell no!
Then of course we have the screen & haptic feedback, this is where I feel like you need a Sony, the amount of reviews I saw that said both where gimmicky makes no sense to me, if the sharpness & clarity of 4K is a "gimmick" then surely the 90hz trend for fluidity is too?.. Anyway my point is the 4K screen is beautiful, best of the best in my opinion, same with the haptic feedback, was palmed off as gimmicky but it's something so many users overlook, having a powerful vibration for media, games & most importantly notifications is something lacking in so many other phones..
To conclude, I'm happy with my Xperia 1, and don't regret getting one
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Delighted with mine, especially interested to read that you liked the XZ1, that was one of my favourite ever phones in terms of form factor and build and in my opinion, the Xperia 1 is the spiritual successor to the XZ1. Basically, if you liked the XZ1 you should love the Xperia 1 as it adds a better screen, far more speed, better battery life, superior camera ability and various other things.
I've never used the OnePlus 7 as I had a 6T and wasn't especially impressed by it, in addition I'm not a fan of curving screens....can't see what benefit they add.
Looks great in white as well!
Yeah I would say so. Depends of course which device you have to begin with. As far as I'm concerned, the Xperia Z2 is Sony's best smartphone ever, and design-wise, the Xperia 1 is a downgrade from the Xperia Z2, although to be fair to the Xperia 1, it looks better than the entire Xperia X series, and is somewhat of a return to form for Sony, starting to resemble the classical OmniBalance design of the early Xperia Z series, and Sony made that clear by using glas for its back (and finally getting the NFC chip located on the back side again) and also releasing the Xperia 1 in the Xperia Z colors, black, white and purple (a long time ago we saw a purple Xperia flagship!). The Xperia 1 still has some of that soap bar design Sony introduced in the XZ2 though, but it's kept at a minimum here, thank God. And while I do prefer the stylish edges of the Z/Z1/Z2, I think the aluminium frame of the 1 looks quite okay. And the classical round power button of the Xperia Z should have been brought back too; the current generic pill designed power button, only works for camera and volume; Sony's power button was unique and really cool looking, and also much easier to press too.
But other than that, the Xperia 1 is an improvement in most ways over the early Xperia Z series (I'm no fan of the Z3, Z3+ and Z5; the Xperia Z series began going downhill with these devices, and that downhill continued with the Xperia X series), although there are some other drawbacks compared to the Z2, but that's mostly due to the downgrade known as Android 9 Pie, and not with the actual hardware. The 21:9 screen may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's an acquired taste, and personally I really like it at this point. The lack of wireless charging doesn't bother me as I'd never use it anyway, although perhaps it should have been added for keeping the USB port in a more mint condition. And I imagine wireless charging doesn't work that well with Sony's excellent battery care, which learns how long you charge the device, and adapts after that. Of course the battery could have been more powerful, like at the very least, 4,000 mAh, but you can get a lot of extra juice out of the 3,330 mAh battery by using black wallpaper, dark theme and so on in everything.
Personally, I think Sony's change in direction to OLED, is a mixed bag. Yeah, OLED looks great, and is very useful for saving battery life if you use completely black wallpaper and dark theme and so on, but the problem with OLED is that it wears out much faster than LCD, and it's also more sensitive to burn-ins and so on, so for that reason, I wish Sony would have kept using LCD screens. I mean after 6 years, my Xperia Z still has the exact same screen quality as it did when it was brand new; I know that won't be the case with my Xperia 1 when it turns 6.
The two main issues with the Xperia 1 right now, is that Sony has yet to add it on their Open Devices list, and that Sony still hasn't updated Xperia Transfer Mobile to work with the Xperia 1 and the Xperia 10 (I imagine this is an Android Pie issue more than anything). These two issues I'm sure will be resolved in the coming months, but it bothers me that it wasn't done at launch.
Perhaps the best thing about the Xperia 1, is that it has no ugly notches. While Sony has complied with the popularity of what I call, bezels autism, which has given us these ugly and disturbing notched smartphones, fortunately Sony didn't go all the way with the bezels autism trend, and so the Xperia 1 has a full screen, as it's supposed to be.
Not really an upgrade.
It's going to come down to 90hz screen or 21:9, that's basically it.
Rest is about the same
It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Pretty much all manufacturers have abandoned their phones using your logic
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Well obviously Sony will abandon it if everyone's going to have your attitude and not buy non-Apple and non-Samsung devices. It might even get so bad that all we will get is Apple and Sapple. And that's the main reason I buy a non-mainstream smartphone brand like the Xperia, because I want market competition and also, Sony is a world class brand, Sony understands quality and design, and their Open Devices program alone is a good reason to buy the Xperia 1. We want open source and freedom in our smartphones.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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maybe they are not list the changelog but i can say they fix something in newest update.
i notice the improvement even not major.
so your posting not entirely valid.
you must look even samsung is rare to provide the update except their the latest device and in term of speed update they are slower, too slow

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