Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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Real street price in the whole Hong Kong down to 3798 now but I think still a bit high but more accepatble now.
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Real street price in the whole Hong Kong down to 3798 now but I think still a bit high but more accepatble now.
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I will probably let the price drop before I go for it.
I returned my Z5 Compact for a full refund (charger wouldn't go in any more) and the X Compact was exactly the same price (£360). Otherwise I would not have gotten the X Compact. Hopefully they figure out a locked bootloader root for Android N though!
Personally I'd go for it.. Mine was worth every penny. The camera seems a huge improvement over the z5 and it runs so smooth, could easily be fooled in thinking it has 820 snapdragon.
I consistently get 5-6+ hours SOT too, with heavy usage.
Here in Sweden the XC has basically the same price as the Z5C - which one would you go for? I'm tempted to take the Z5C because we have root and some mods and 4K videos - but the XC seems to have the better camera overall..
Hey Guys! I'm planning to get the X Compact to replace my Z3 Compact as my second phone, is the battery life good? Or possibly even better than the Z3's?
Thanks in advance
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Hey Guys! I'm planning to get the X Compact to replace my Z3 Compact as my second phone, is the battery life good? Or possibly even better than the Z3's?
Thanks in advance
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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out of curiosity, what's your primary phone and what would you consider as alternative to the x compact?
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out of curiosity, what's your primary phone and what would you consider as alternative to the x compact?
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My Primary phone is currently the S7 Exynos, it used to be the Z3 Compact and I had the Z1 Compact as my secondary ( before I sold it ). Not advertising here or anything but I suggest for now you try different brands, since Sony atm is overpriced, you could get a significantly better device for like half the price of their current flagships.
A good alternative to the X Compact if you are looking for a compact phone would be the Z5 Compact. It has better community support and generally is a faster phone compared to the X Compact, otherwise I'd recommend the S7 Exynos or the G5, both are great phones for their price, especially the G5 which is kind of cheap right now compared to other flagships. The removable battery is also a plus.
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Here in Sweden the XC has basically the same price as the Z5C - which one would you go for? I'm tempted to take the Z5C because we have root and some mods and 4K videos - but the XC seems to have the better camera overall..
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Z5c got TA backup so no void warranty with root and started to have some mods or customer kenerl/rom to flash now. But that phone real gets hot without thermal mod and stock camera bad without mod camera, with rooting the phone is good to use, without root no doubt XC is better.
Camera is the most important thing to me. I'm also thinking to up to XC for the laser focus and IR sensor but after used the Z5c mod cam, my plan is pushed back bcoz the z5c cam is better now. I'll wait for XC price go down next year.
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Ohh, thanks! I guess for now I'll save my cash for a better phone. Probably a non sony one, Idk what happened with their devices, their flagships have less battery and they justify it with "Qnovo" technology.
I hope Sony returns to the way they were before
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I had the Z5C for a year, the XC is faster and has a comfortably better battery life versus the Z5C.
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My Primary phone is currently the S7 Exynos, it used to be the Z3 Compact and I had the Z1 Compact as my secondary ( before I sold it ). Not advertising here or anything but I suggest for now you try different brands, since Sony atm is overpriced, you could get a significantly better device for like half the price of their current flagships.
A good alternative to the X Compact if you are looking for a compact phone would be the Z5 Compact. It has better community support and generally is a faster phone compared to the X Compact, otherwise I'd recommend the S7 Exynos or the G5, both are great phones for their price, especially the G5 which is kind of cheap right now compared to other flagships. The removable battery is also a plus.
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Have you actually owned either the Z5C or the XC? Because it's extremely obvious the X Compact is faster.
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I had the Z5C for a year, the XC is faster and has a comfortably better battery life versus the Z5C.
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Have you actually owned either the Z5C or the XC? Because it's extremely obvious the X Compact is faster.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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I thought the Z5C has better benchmarks? I don't really pay attention to benchmarks, all I really care about is real world usage. It's easy to spot that the X Compact is faster than the Z5 Compact in real world usage.
In the UK, on amazon, the X Compact is cheaper than the Z5C. I returned my Z5C because the charger wouldn't go in, if the Z5C was the same price I would've gotten that but I'm glad I didn't.
I think the Z5C is much more beautiful than the X Compact. X compact is easier to hold though.
I agree about the price tag (mine cost £360, exactly what I paid for the Z5C last year). There is definitely better phones for the money, but I have small hands
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
Z5c SD810 got a much faster GPU over XC SD650 before it suffered from heating issue. XC is faster bcoz it got 3GB ram in multi-tasking or play resources hogging games. I've played XZ and XC in phone store, I don't think normal use XC faster actually I felt Z5c is acting faster with it's unbeatable gpu. And yes, I think XC is quite ugly.....
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I don't own the phone but I've been reading plenty of reviews and stats. the battery on the XC is quite worse than the Z3C and even than the Z5C, but it will still get you comfortably through the day. That said, battery on the Z3c was stellar, I owned one myself.
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I do own the phone, and the battery gives me several days which includes playing videos via 4g, number of phone calls constant data push notifications for emails etc.
I've not even started to tweak it yet as I don't feel the need. I've read a number of these reviews too, and things like 'the battery capacity is lower than [insert whatever]. A direct compare clearly isn't taking into account the fact that the XC sips its power carefully, rather than drinking pints at a time.
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I do own the phone, and the battery gives me several days which includes playing videos via 4g, number of phone calls constant data push notifications for emails etc.
I've not even started to tweak it yet as I don't feel the need. I've read a number of these reviews too, and things like 'the battery capacity is lower than [insert whatever]. A direct compare clearly isn't taking into account the fact that the XC sips its power carefully, rather than drinking pints at a time.
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Agree. I charged my phone on Friday, was out for the whole weekend and only needed to charge it on Monday (this is with Google now turned off and email on manual checking).
With google now and email push I get 2.5 days of charge. Battery life is insane on this phone.
I don't know why people who don't own the phone feel like they're in a position to offer opinions or advice to other people.
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That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
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In real worlds usage XC is comfortably faster, do you even own this phone? Because it's very obvious it's much faster.
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The XC is faster on benchmarks sure, but its because of the newer architecture and benchmarks don't matter when using phones. Especially when they're both essentially running premium hardware. You're not building a gaming computer here, what matters here is real world usage and both phones perform really fast and the difference is barely noticeable if not almost non-existent. That being said the X Compact's "faster" performance on benchmarks doesn't justify its 499$ Price Tag ( Amazon ) while you could get the Z5 Compact for a hundred dollars less Z5 Compact 399$ ( Amazon ). That being said both devices would perform equally in a sense when in real world usage, so It would really be impractical to throw a hundred more bucks.
This is just my opinion though, I'm not saying the X Compact is a bad device, in fact it looks beautiful and performs beautifully but sadly with that price I believe Sony ( or other manufacturers ) have better offerings for a lower price tag.
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The price of the XC is now $449. This makes it a no brainer imo. The z5c I had was slow as molasses
kms108 said:
Not sure if anyone has mentioned about this phone being overpriced, I already have the LG G5 and the X Performance, was thinking about getting this, but now I have to reconsidered, Hong Kong is selling this for HKD4198, which translate about USD540, I was expecting it to be about USD 350 to 400.
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I have just bough one from eBay (brand new, sealed, two years warranty) for 361€. In Amazon UK now it's priced £359.99. The best money I've ever spent on phones.
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I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life YES
IPXX Certification YES
Magnetic/fast charging YES
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs YES
5 poles audio jack YES
Memory card support YES
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6 YES
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night YES
The fastest mobile GPU available YES
Mini/Compact body desing YES
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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SO YES Upgrade to XZ5c
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[email protected] said:
I decided to change mi phone (Z1 compact), but I'm very exigent and the rest of the "mini" models are extremely poor in specs, build quality, well in everything. I have to mention that my gadgets lives in an Android/Windows ecosystem.
IMO the models to choose would be the Z5 compact or Z3 compact. But It's because I don't know if there are better models on sale or coming.
I'll list the technologies I'm interested in.
Longest battery life
IPXX Certification
Magnetic/fast charging
Aptx/High-res Audio codecs
5 poles audio jack
Memory card support
ac WiFi/ LTE cat 6
FullHD Camera + the best focus at night
The fastest mobile GPU available
Mini/Compact body desing
What's your suggestion??
Thanks.
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Bro, just get the Z5 compact......unless if you are picky on the design and pricey, then get the Z3 compact
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So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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So guys are you saying that there are not another devices with those features??
In a positive way, I'm right with my idea.
In a negative way, the rest of the manufactures dissapointed me :'(
Thank you so much.
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That's true at this moment. The manufacturers are all looking for the big screens.[emoji174]
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
Unfortunately, the Z5 compact is the only hi-end (2015) Android phone with small size. Your other 2015 option is the iPhone 6S but it has a totally different OS as you probably know.
Other old options are:
Z3 compact: still a good phone, still supported, not too old.
Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I went from Google Nexus 5 to z5c because I felt I wanted a smaller phone. Even though the difference is not that big, it feels a lot smaller and looks a lot better.
To answer your question, I found z5c to be one of the only small phones compared to all other phones out there. It feels good in my hand, I can reach the whole screen and it is very good looking. The size is the same as z3c but with better specs and new design on the outside. If the price is a big deal, go with z3c. If not, go with z5c. It is about the same size as iPhone 5s, slightly thicker. Holding it in my hand, I recommend it. Keep in mind that I got it this Monday, I have only had it for two days. Wait a few weeks until all the cons have appeared.
Only drawback so far, the placed the volume button at a very awkward location, below the lock button..
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Yeah, I read that about the volume button position. But, Ok, it's nothing really severe.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 too. Do you feel the camera better or worse? (I really like the HDR+ quality of the Nexus 5).
I have moved from Z3c into Z5c and I can't complain. The only issue i have is its little but slippy but my old iPhone was that too.
Build quality is very good as well as screen and speakers (which are btw louder than in Z3c)
New UI looks more vanilla which if you are Nexus fan a good think (I am )
I havent tested camera yet nor battery life but it drops around 4% in 7 hours standby (considering push emails, bt on)
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Moto X 2013: small with excellent grip and battery life, awesome phone, but I think it's no longed maintained.
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I recently sold an unlocked Moto X 2013 and it had Lollipop on it. I doubt it will get updated again but it was good to get it to 5.1.
About z5c vs nexus 5 camera: I can't compare because after I dropped my nexus, the camera became useless. It could not focus anymore.
Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
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I was evaluating between X and XP when they both come out. I noticed Sony removed "2 days battery life" from XP's marketing materials. So its X for me. I need battery life more than gaming performance though.
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and what's your opinion? are you pleased with your decision? do your day by day routine is similar to mine? how is your battery life ?
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Hi,
I am thinking buying this phone. The most important thing for me is to have a snappy phone for regular apps(spotify, whatsapp, mail, browsing) , and at least one day of battery on lte (I don't use more than 3.5h sot).
From what i saw on this forum xperia x might be a good choice for me. Would you recommend something else? or can xperia x fulfill my needs?
Thanks.
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Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
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Go for it.
S650 is more than enough for you, even when gaming counts. The Z5 heats up and throttles itself pretty fast even on normal usage. MM roms on Xperia phones are hell fast already.
Though, isn't it too OP to buy a S8xx phone for daily apps?
EDIT: There is no phone on the X line that could last up to 2 days. My X normally last for 5 hours onscreen, with gaming web browsing are my top priorities.
Z3c still is the one with the strongest juice pack.
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ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
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ok thanks. I might wait a bit to see how does nougat affect xperia x. (as any update brings some slow effect to the day by day experience)
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Well, there is hardly any reason to nerf the X in the next update. M4 and Z4 was nerfed due to the heating issues, which the X doesn't have.
Also, you can go back to MM at anytime.
Having this same dilemma currently. Had my eye on the Xperia line since the Z1C and my GS3 is finally failing enough that i'm going to pull the trigger on something new and looking to step away form the galaxy line. Not a big gamer beyond mindless time killers (angry birds and the like) so mostly just need snappy performance for browsing and youtube and good battery life. I feel like the X hits that sweet spot between giving up a bit of screen size with the compact and going up to the bigger Z5 which i'm not really sure i want to do either. Can get a Z5C and XX for the same price right now, and only about $50 more for the Z5. Seems like all the reviews are mainly knocking the XX based on the steep list price and saying "just get a Z5 instead" but now that the price has come down so much i'm not sure that really applies anymore. For practical everyday use i feel like the X is going to be right on par, and any of them are going to smoke this dinosaur of a phone i'm on now.
well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
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well coming to my initial thoughts z5 is better than x? because for me are the same price
and how much battery life can I get using waze? (for a 5h road trip, would i need a car charger?)
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I use another navigation app, but i guess the X will survive with around 5% with Stamina on all the way, while the Z5 will die halfway.
Though you should have a portable charger in your car every time. It doesn't take too much space anyway.
yeah. ok thanks.
I still have some doubts of the battery life of xx, but I suppose this is mainly because the market is flooded by 3000mah batteries.
I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
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I like that X have earpiece in better position, as having the earpiece, like Z5 have, at the phone edge, is quite annoying, during a call, the phone doesn't cover my ear hole, but instead I must hold phone in some strange and uncomfortable position and others can hear the conversation.
X -s earpiece sound is also better, as Z5 have smaller earpiece and as it's waterproof, so it's behind protection tape, which changes the sound.
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but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
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but how is battery life on both devices? (i understand that xx has enough battery juice for at least one day on 4g)
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Logic say's that more performance (bigger screen, more CPU cores etc) consumes more power. So it depends of phone usage. It You are continuously on 4G, then depends how good is the signal. If signal is bad, phone needs to amplify the signal and this again eats more battery.
Quote from - http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z5_id4206/page/4
"In terms of total capacity, the 2,900mAh cell of the Xperia Z5 has the lead over the 2,620mAh unit of the Xperia X. But as you should know by now, numbers are just numbers.
Indeed, we found the numbers to be unrepresentative of our experience, with the Xperia Z5 offering worse battery performance with perhaps a 10% drop in longevity compared to the X. Not a massive advantage for the newer device, sure, but still something to keep in mind. Obviously, this ratio can vary wildly depending on what your typical usage looks like.
When it comes to charging times, the Xperia X, with its smaller juicer getting filled up some 15 minutes quicker than the larger unit of the Z5."
hi, again. how about an older sony (like z3, z3+ - saw that z3+ has s810 chip, and i am concerned about overheat) but how about z3? saw good reviews even after some years.
I bought the Xperia X a month ago and I am really happy with the device. I would estimate around 2 days battery life with normal usage. I think the phone is a perfect all-rounder with clean UI, good/fast camera, fantastic front camera (13mp), vibrant full-HD 5" screen, beautiful design/finish with metal back and 21/2 D glass. PS4 remote play (if you own PS4) is great too. Finger print scanner is also very consistent and extremely fast (<1 sec to start and unlock phone). My previous phone was Xperia Z3C which was also very good, but overall I would rank the Xperia X higher mainly due to the screen, cameras, finger print scanner and metal finish.
Screen, Nougat, processor, Daydream, etc? I currently have the Z but keep seeing how people are loving the Z play even more.
Battery. I'm unable to even discharge my Moto Z in a full day of use, how could I discharge the Play?
Seriously... speed and height.
Daydream VR
The VZW Z was $120 with no contract and no trade-in. Got four of them to replacing the aging phones of family members.
Locked bootloader is a huge negative for sure, but with the exception of AdAway, I find myself less concerned with root and custom ROMs given how close to vanilla the Moto is.
If someone figures out how to unlock it, I'll do it without a second thought, but at $120 the specs make it a no-brainer over the Z Play and well worth the risk of being stuck with a locked bootloader (for me).
It's thin and light
Hardware, software (nougat), thickness, the dark frame, the aluminium cover.
Hey guys. I've just gone through this so I thought I'd add my $0.02.
I went into a local shop and got some hands on tune with both of these. Honestly, with normal use I was pretty tough to tell the difference. Even the screens were close enough for that to not be an issue.
In the hand, the play felt better to me. The regular Z was almost too thin and the edges felt quite sharp.
Ultimately, I went with the regular Z and here are my reasons in order of importance to me:
1. Camera
Looking at the pictures taken I that shop there was a marked difference between the two. This may have been exacerbated my the play's lower res screen but the photos taken indoors were more passable to me.
2. Specs
Even though the play was just as smooth navigating Android, my assumption is that the SD 820 in the Z will give it more longevity.
3. Thickness
I have the speaker, camera and battery moto mods. The Z feels much better in the hand with mods installed than the play. Those couple of mm do make a difference.
4. Price
Over here in Aus, there's $300 difference between the play and the Z retail. However, I actually bought my Z on Expansys during a sale for $629 with free shipping. The play was $489 and for me the extra $$$ is comfortably justified.
I still dig the play though. I've had back of my GS7 and even though the GS7 camera is KILLER, I'd probably still pick the okay over it.
That is all, hope that helps anyone else tossing up between the two.
Play camera is considered better. Unless you're in love with the form factor of the Z I don't see it.
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Play camera is considered better. Unless you're in love with the form factor of the Z I don't see it.
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Considered better by who? I think you'd be pressed to find even one review which would support this claim.
Play has more megapixel, sure. But it also has a narrower aperture lens so it's low light performance is always going to produce shots with now noise and less detai.
There's much more to a camera than a sensor. Case in point: Google pixel and Xiaomi Mi5s. Exact same sensor but have you heard anyone talking about the Xiaomi being the best smartphone camera money can buy? There's a reason for that.
I'm not intending to be rude here but for real... if you're going to tout the Play as having a better camera then you need a pretty solid basis for it considering every single review of the Play I came across described the camera as just passable.
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Both Anandtech' and DXO basically say the Z Play has the better camera. The shots I've seen seem to confirm that. Where are the reviews you refer to that compare them DIRECTLY? A whole lot of vitriole in that post.
Lightweight and thin, I can barely feel it in my pocket. I get 5h+ screentime with the combination of Greenify, Lux AB and another app I forget; that schedules system things around the phones hibernation.
Considering that Nougat recently got pushed for the Z Play, it was noted that Daydream VR is not included in the update because of the Z Play's low resolution and less powerful Snapdragon 635 processor. I guess I'm glad I spent the extra few bucks to get the Z instead.
I was going to get the Play, but my carrier stopped offering it, so around here it was about $400 to buy one from the classifieds. Mostly just wanted the bigger battery.
So I got the Z for zero down as an upgrade with my carrier instead. And really, the battery has surprised me. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours screen on time, and the phone charges so fast anyway. So I'm glad I got the Z now. The camera has been a nice surprise too, compared to phones I've previously had.
This is my 3rd Moto. I've had the original X and the N6 also. Have loved all my moto phones.
Still getting the battery mod soon though.
Darth said:
I was going to get the Play, but my carrier stopped offering it, so around here it was about $400 to buy one from the classifieds. Mostly just wanted the bigger battery.
So I got the Z for zero down as an upgrade with my carrier instead. And really, the battery has surprised me. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours screen on time, and the phone charges so fast anyway. So I'm glad I got the Z now. The camera has been a nice surprise too, compared to phones I've previously had.
This is my 3rd Moto. I've had the original X and the N6 also. Have loved all my moto phones.
Still getting the battery mod soon though.
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Are you with Koodo? I'm with Koodo and they did indeed just stop carrying the Z Play, just when I was thinking of upgrading to it from the X Play I was wondering whether the "regular" Z might be my next choice, and it just may be...
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Are you with Koodo? I'm with Koodo and they did indeed just stop carrying the Z Play, just when I was thinking of upgrading to it from the X Play I was wondering whether the "regular" Z might be my next choice, and it just may be...
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Well, the Z is the better device. No doubt. Minus a headphone jack and the Play has a bigger battery.
The lack of headphone jack is definitely a nuisance. Have to be charged up before watching stuff, or listening to a lot of music. There's Bluetooth headphones out there though too.
The battery life surprised me, not much worse than my oneplus-one, or N6, but not stellar of course. I just got the incipio battery mod, so that solves that. Lol. It's bulkier, but not too crazy.
So it was cash for a play, probably used, or zero for the Z on a two year contract. I'm happy with what I got though.
I'm with bell. Oh, and it's the best camera I've had on a phone so far. I don't expect pics like an actual camera, so this meets my expectations for sure. :good:
Great specs, but mostly due to how thin and sexy it looks. Battery is no big deal to me these days because quick charge is fabulous...
Hey everyone. This is my first post in xda and I joined specifically to ask this question. I'm posting this as a new thread because I wanted an answer from the perspective of 2017.
Should I go for the Z5c or Z3c? I'm looking for a new phone. Personally I love the size of the phones, and I fell in love with the screen positioning on the Z3c, where it's more symmetric unlike the Z5c whose top bezel is bigger. But yeah, the Z5c has the fingerprint sensor, and has better specs I guess? I also prefer the rounded edges of the Z3c, but everyone I know is asking me to go for the Z5c. Help?
Z3C doesn't have Nougat and won't receive updates anymore. Although Z5C has a bit worse battery life, it is better in every other aspect.
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Z3C doesn't have Nougat and won't receive updates anymore. Although Z5C has a bit worse battery life, it is better in every other aspect.
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Will not receiving Nougat matter? From what I've read it caused plenty of bugs in the Z5c. Also, will not having Nougat mean the Z3c won't receive the latest updates on apps?
I'm sorry I don't know a lot
Z5c faster from Z3c almost x2 also finger scanner. better speakers from every Z series (even other z5)
but if you can buy go to Xperia X performance (is only 0.2 bigger and still small) and faster then both, and 3GB RAM, the screen got 1080P and not 720P although is enough if you wont use VR
btw you also have xperia X Compact but hes in-between z3 to z5 so leave it last he just looks like small XZ but specs not much different from z3 and performance if you want better design and android 7
anyway the big cons for me (i have z5c for 1 year now,):
1. 2GB RAM only (If i open highend, big\app\game) it use all the 2GB its even close the whatsapp!
2.the phone gets hot fast 40C/105F degrees after 5 minutes then the device close the big 4cores to cool down (mostly in highend apps)
some software bugs but this you can change(ROM) and or get updates so its any sony phone
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software bugs in Z5's started from 6 marshmallow not from 7 nugget
the big bugs for me is
1.limited charge voltage cannot be turned off (maybe thats why some ppl get abit low life battery its like the battery stop charging at 90%) but its good to the long term anyway to prolong battery life
2.unbalance speakers (only in the stock app they fix it)
3.only one speaker works in ringtones
I'd say the z3c is getting a bit long in the tooth now, however, the Z5 is a bit of a disaster - overheats, battery drain issues, and the nougat firmware is littered with bugs. If you absolutely have to have a Sony compact, go for the X compact. In most cases it faster than a Z5C for general usage due to the dire throttling of the processor in the Z5C. (Z5C will still be better for gaming, if you wear oven gloves)
Personally, I'm waiting to see what comes along next, as I'm hoping for an XZ compact or similar.
i agree with stevo almost on all parts he said, beside battery, i charging my phone every 2days, or every 24hours on average+ usage . even with the battery software bug
and X compact Cpu only bit better, and not get hot,
but GPU is almost 2 times faster on the z5c , if you dont gaming Xperia XC will be enough for you
anyway im not happy with sony anymore, and probably my last device from them, customer service and support is sucks, they rarely update with new device come up, they barely put in any updates
i was also looking for small device with P68 and stereo speakers , and this was the closest most companies stopped doing mini phones with high end specs
also iwas happy with my previous sony, the speakers was X2 better and louder i didn't even needed bluetooth for my car, now i got one..
he got CM updates till 2day and he from 2011, and the fourm there is still active Z5C barely a year or so and this forum dieing, meaning ,less Customs Roms, and updates from sony for sure,, the last android will be no more than N7.1.1
z3 compact is my proposal.
A ton of custom roms makes sure your phone stays lightning fast, very customizable, root without unlock bootloader, a couple of camera mods with unbelievable quality, a bit better battery, not getting warm, cheaper ...
I had it a few weeks, got stolen, then i went and bought the z5compact.
I am still searching for someone to switch phones with...
personal opinion,
new processor+new camera+fingerprint <<< community support
So there has been a few rumors saying sony has plans to reveal a new compact phone at IFA 2017 (along with a flagship).
If you havent already hear you might wanna check out Xperiablog.net
So are you guys gonna buy it, if it's true, or not?
Im totally satisfied with XC, it's smooth, good looking design, feels good in hand, good screen quality and battery life, but,
I will buy it if sony reveals a compact phone with below features:
- Flagship CPU and more RAM
- less bezel
- Reasonable price (it's very less likely but anyway...)
What about you guys?
Definitely. I'm tired of my Z5C. Can't do anything with this burning 810. Without it throttling 5 years back in time.
I've been watching this for some time now. I hope they nail the design. Spec-wise it sounds pretty good to me.
Depending on the design I'll be selling my XC at the first instance upon release.