I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
rvs80 said:
I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
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for the moment just http://community.umidigi.com/article-334-1.html
http://community.umidigi.com/article-333-1.html
The PROCESSOR is the same as you think the z's root method works?
Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
marco.deluxe said:
Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
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I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
marco.deluxe said:
Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
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In fact, what brakes me is that there is no reviews around and then, since I'm a flashaoilic, I did not find anything interesting about
Here you will find a lot of information about the Z1 Pro.
http://community.umidigi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=160
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You can also look in the other forums and read what the customers write about other UMIDIGI devices.
So you get a good impression what you expect when you buy a device of this brand.
cieffe54 said:
I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
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Thanks for suggesting zenfone 3. Same price bracket and very good specs if not the best. I think I will go for Asus. Only thing i may miss is Dual camera system for the bokehs.
For me the bokeh mode is just a nice gimmick.
A good single camera, which makes good pictures even in poor light conditions, I find much more important.
There's better options and no root for z pro, camera is OK and bokeh as said is gimmick.
Support is lousy from UmiDigi also ROMs have pretty much no extras included to tweak. Thing twice
Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
Noxxit said:
Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
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Damn this phone is horrible for the price.
Heck, vernee mars pro which has a faster CPU costs less than this.
I would switch to a better known brand.
I have the impression that many of the Chinese smartphones come from the same factory.
Look at the UMIDIGI Z Pro, Ulefone Gemini Pro and NOA H10.
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This is no coincidence.
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
Nark0tiX said:
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
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I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
As an owner of Z pro I say save your money - Don't buy UMIDIGI phone (not this model and not other model)
Software includes many bugs and there is no decent support
They fix one bug and add 2 new
juv3nal said:
I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
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I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
chooks06 said:
I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
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Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
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Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
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Further edit.. About 15 min later, same settings..
Quality is bad..I got better results on my old Asus Zenfone 2... May swap back to that..
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Just got a RAZR MAXX and I love the handset, screen, build quality, size, weight and battery life, but the camera absolutely sucks. It is beyond dreadful for a phone of this spec/price.
I am thinking it isn't just me because I saw a few threads complaining about this, but also if you compare the sample shots at GSMarena with say the SII and Galaxy Nexus (can't post links) then you can see this camera absolutely sucks, even compared to the 5MP Galaxy Nexus. My own experience is that it is barely acceptable in good daylight (even then the colours and contrast are dreadful) but in artificial light or poor light it is completely hopeless. Also it takes way too long to focus.
Is there anything I can do to improve it or should I just send it back and swap it for something else?
Keep the camera shutter button pressed until you are ready to take a pic. The camera will focus and when you are ready to take the pic just release it.
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Just got a RAZR MAXX and I love the handset, screen, build quality, size, weight and battery life, but the camera absolutely sucks. It is beyond dreadful for a phone of this spec/price.
I am thinking it isn't just me because I saw a few threads complaining about this, but also if you compare the sample shots at GSMarena with say the SII and Galaxy Nexus (can't post links) then you can see this camera absolutely sucks, even compared to the 5MP Galaxy Nexus. My own experience is that it is barely acceptable in good daylight (even then the colours and contrast are dreadful) but in artificial light or poor light it is completely hopeless. Also it takes way too long to focus.
Is there anything I can do to improve it or should I just send it back and swap it for something else?
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greeky510 said:
Keep the camera shutter button pressed until you are ready to take a pic. The camera will focus and when you are ready to take the pic just release it.
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Yes but the picture it takes is still absolutely terrible - noisy, bad detail, terrible colour reproduction, bad contrast. Seriously, go to GSM Arena and compare the test photos, or grab someone's Samsung/HTC/iPhone and do a few shots yourself - there is just no comparison. I've had 2MP Nokia dumb phones that take better snaps.
dude, activate 8mp, u probably have it on 6
romdroid. said:
dude, activate 8mp, u probably have it on 6
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I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
BlueC78 said:
I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
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K
what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
romdroid. said:
K
what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
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I know, sorry, I'm just gutted because I love everything else about the handset (it is an amazing design) and prefer it above all other current handsets, but the camera is just such a massive let down. I'm going to take it back tomorrow and see if I can exchange it... probably go for a Xperia S which was my original choice but I was put off by the crappy plastic design, lack of SD slot, and stupid flap over the USB port.
I should have stuck to my original choice but the MAXX turned my head!!
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K
what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
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Instead if attacking the guy, read his post. He asked if there were any known fixes or should he exchange it. That is the problem I'm seeing in the RAZR forums, to many people just flaming each other instead of helping.
As to your question, there is something with the compression that moto used, and a post on how to fix it. Not sure were, but search the forum and you should find it. Not sure if it will help you, but it did seem to help my photo quality. You could also try camera ics from the market or any other third party to see if it helps.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda app-developers app
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Instead if attacking the guy, read his post. He asked if there were any known fixes or should he exchange it. That is the problem I'm seeing in the RAZR forums, to many people just flaming each other instead of helping.
As to your question, there is something with the compression that moto used, and a ***** on how to fix it. Not sure were, but search the forum and you should find it. Not sure if it will help you, but it did seem to help my photo quality. You could also try camera ics from the market or any other third party to see if it helps.
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Thanks dude. I have tried other apps, and I don't much like the look of the patch and suspect it wouldn't help as I don't believe it is a JPEG compression issue... more a sensor/lense/hardware issue so there is a limit to how much any software processing can help. Absolutely gutted as I love the handset but it's going to have to go back - my main reason to update from the Acer was for a better camera and this just doesn't cut it.
From looking around seems the best cameras are on SII/SIII and Xperia S. The Xperia has many other drawbacks though which means I might end up with a SIII which is annoying because I hate having the same phone as everyone else
I honestly think Motorola were SO CLOSE with the handset. Maybe the HD will have a better camera.
No problem just figured I'd offer some suggestions. I figured you had tried them already, but you never know. So of I was you I would choose the s3, at least it's comparable to the Maxx.
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I figured out that the pictures quality is more better with another rom. Just with Black Widow AOKP Rom the pictures are much better than the other pictures taken with ICS stock rom.
do u mean is bad when u view it on the phone? cause when i transfer them to a pc or a tv there just average, i dont say they are good but there are just average 8mp pic. the difference with the nexus 5mp is when u zoom
That's interesting about the rom influencing image quality.
I was, and still am a bit impressed by the camera quality on the dinc, and I bought my Dare in part based on the lens/mp, but that was before I was more educated in photography. I'm by no means impressed by the Razr's camera, but knowing it's a cell phone, I see the camera as a convenience. I generally carry my canon s95 just in case, and will have one of my nikon's on hand if I know I'll be shooting. The razr's IQ may be sub par compared to other phones, but if my photos are a priority, I'm not looking to my phone as my camera.
Agreed. The camera is my biggest complaint with my maxx. I have a few third party camera apps but the quality is still lacking.
I'm gonna search for that patch mentioned earlier in the thread.
Stock ICS /w Root and some kernel tweaks.
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I don't really think that the kernel modules are responsible for the picture quality..
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arisgoku said:
do u mean is bad when u view it on the phone? cause when i transfer them to a pc or a tv there just average, i dont say they are good but there are just average 8mp pic. the difference with the nexus 5mp is when u zoom
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I took a ton of photos yesterday in different conditions and with different lighting. Uploaded them to my PC and the results weren't good. It is very strong at close-up shots in good light which give really excellent detail and colours, but any long, mid-range, motion, or low light shots are extremely poor in comparison to the latest offerings from Sony/Samsung/HTC.
In the end I swapped it for a Galaxy S3, which I reluctantly admit is an awesome bit of kit.
dtrail1 said:
I don't really think that the kernel modules are responsible for the picture quality..
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Who talked about kernel modules? I was talking about mortifying the media profiles file to change the compression.
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I had the Samsung Charge before the Razr Maxx, and I loved the Charge's camera. The Razr's camera isn't that bad, I don't know what you're talking about. Here's a picture I just took of my dog:
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BlueC78 said:
I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
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Oh, my GOD, you're RIGHT! This is AWFUL!!!
/sarcasm
BlueC78 said:
I took a ton of photos yesterday in different conditions and with different lighting. Uploaded them to my PC and the results weren't good. It is very strong at close-up shots in good light which give really excellent detail and colours, but any long, mid-range, motion, or low light shots are extremely poor in comparison to the latest offerings from Sony/Samsung/HTC.
In the end I swapped it for a Galaxy S3, which I reluctantly admit is an awesome bit of kit.
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Is there a chance we can see a sample of what the SIII can do?
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My Xperia Z Ultra short review.
Build Quality: Damn solid! obvious better than Z.
Screen Panel: The best I ever seen so far, no more viewing angle issue. Equal or even better than HTC One.
Loud Speaker: Slightly better than Z but still too soft.
Performance: Snapdragon 800 & Adreno 330 really is monster! wow! Awesome performance! Heavy 3D games had no issue playback smoothly even turn on the 4xAA at Developer options. Example games I test out include Real Racing & Despicable Me.
Interface: Currently same as Z one, it is old UI, not the new one as advertise during press. They is no X-Reality support yet, and also cannot open more than one Small Apps. The stylus input is kind of gimmick also for now, not as seen at press where can use everywhere.
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Outdoor snap, using Superior Auto:
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thanks for the mini review!
how is the battery life? I'd imagine with that huge screen and thirsty 2.3ghz processor it would be pretty bad though.
Thanks for the review!!! MY mouth is watering!
Would like to know your opinions on battery life as well ALSO is the speaker easily-covered with your hand as on the Z?
ssj_jaypee said:
thanks for the mini review!
how is the battery life? I'd imagine with that huge screen and thirsty 2.3ghz processor it would be pretty bad though.
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gunblazer said:
Thanks for the review!!! MY mouth is watering!
Would like to know your opinions on battery life as well ALSO is the speaker easily-covered with your hand as on the Z?
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Can't tell on battery life yet, need some days. I just get it yesterday.
flash
no camera flash ???
miss that ?
trishul said:
no camera flash ???
miss that ?
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I never use flash, not miss that.
New Firmware 14.1.B.0.471 for Sony Xperia Z Ultra is out!
Notice much smooth, my Antutu score also jump from 30k to 33k now.
Still old UI without X-Reality Support.
Camera quality seems much better.
Antutu score increase from 30k to 33k for me.
New Indoor test after firmware update to 14.1.B.0.471
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
Andrewtst said:
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
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You mean you can't use the pencil/stylus when your palm is on the screen?
Small apps introduced in the update? Or not yet?
Andrewtst said:
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
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I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?
thanks..
hey thank man for the review..its really a mouth watering stuff..the camera even though only 8 mp without flash seems to be great..how is the general feel of the device..is it pocketable i mean shirt pocket or jean pocket..i dont care even if it pops just out of the pocket until its fitting in the pocket im fine with that..thats the small comprimise we have to make to carry around this sensational phone right??how is the touch responsive ness of the screen..how is the general ui performance ??is it smooth...have fun with the device and please do update the info..cheers mate..i got the z 1 month back still its looking brand new and still i m awestruck with the beauty of xperia z ..so cant sell that so early and go for z ultra ..but for sure in next few months..
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Andrewtst said:
New Firmware 14.1.B.0.471 for Sony Xperia Z Ultra is out!
Notice much smooth, my Antutu score also jump from 30k to 33k now.
Still old UI without X-Reality Support.
Camera quality seems much better.
Antutu score increase from 30k to 33k for me.
New Indoor test after firmware update to 14.1.B.0.471
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wow ...33k on antutu is seriously sensational the fastest of the devices like s4 and htc one are not even close..thats awesome..
Do you have any idea why you don't have the final version of the UI as shown at launch? does that make your unit a pre-release version or something not ready for sale yet?
I'm really curious as Xperia Z ultra is on sale in my area for USD 655 for the 3G model with similar UI as yours.
oh, and what region is Xperia Z ultra from?
antisp1n said:
You mean you can't use the pencil/stylus when your palm is on the screen?
Small apps introduced in the update? Or not yet?
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Can't and still run old look and functionality like Z.
baileyjr said:
I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?
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Got others user already apply and no issue.
deepu4puppy said:
hey thank man for the review..its really a mouth watering stuff..the camera even though only 8 mp without flash seems to be great..how is the general feel of the device..is it pocketable i mean shirt pocket or jean pocket..i dont care even if it pops just out of the pocket until its fitting in the pocket im fine with that..thats the small comprimise we have to make to carry around this sensational phone right??how is the touch responsive ness of the screen..how is the general ui performance ??is it smooth...have fun with the device and please do update the info..cheers mate..i got the z 1 month back still its looking brand new and still i m awestruck with the beauty of xperia z ..so cant sell that so early and go for z ultra ..but for sure in next few months..
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wow ...33k on antutu is seriously sensational the fastest of the devices like s4 and htc one are not even close..thats awesome..
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Performance is awesome! After updates is running fine now.
jack1192 said:
Do you have any idea why you don't have the final version of the UI as shown at launch? does that make your unit a pre-release version or something not ready for sale yet?
I'm really curious as Xperia Z ultra is on sale in my area for USD 655 for the 3G model with similar UI as yours.
oh, and what region is Xperia Z ultra from?
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All retail unit in whole world now still running at old UI, include wherever I seen unboxed from Hong Kong, Thailand and my country Malaysia. None is support X-Reality also, only came with Bravia Engine 2 now.
Xreality ETA is sept as per Sony. Guessing the rest of the UI will also be updated then
nice !!!
but i was hoping that the widgets would cover the screen (walkman widget is short ).. i assume other sony widgets are not covering the entire length
14.1.B.1.414 and onwards will have the new UI and X-Reality display.
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Will X-reality come to our XZ?
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Andrewtst said:
Got others user already apply and no issue.
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Thanks buddy, thats good news. I do prefer to apply a screen protector.
Hello everybody,
Sony launched today two new lenses(Sony Cyber-shot QX10 & QX100) for Smartphones. Does someone know if it works on XZU, i mean the back part where you put the XZU between the two plastic lips
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Hello everybody,
Sony launched today two new lenses(Sony Cyber-shot QX10 & QX100) for Smartphones. Does someone know if it works on XZU, i mean the back part where you put the XZU between the two plastic lips
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Since it will be using the NFC on the XZU to sync, yes it will work.
Sony QX100
As the QX100 uses the same sensor as the Sony RX100 image quality should be excellent.
No flash though ...
100% I will get it.
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100% I will get it.
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Already pre-ordered mine from Amazon :laugh:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
Nuwidol said:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
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Dude can you believe this QX100 with iblazr
It will be so stupid.
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Getting the XPeria Z Ultra with this, it will be awesome!
Tomorrow XPeria Z Ultra arrives on stores @ Portugal!
Can't wait to try it heheheh
As i saw the announcement of the DSC QX100 i thought this is the answer why Sony put in the so-so cam into the XZU ... but - as per a german magazine (Link), the mount (like on the picture) of both versions will not fit for the huge XZU.
So it should work (finder, nfc, exchange etc.), but not as one unit.
But i trust Sony would be hardly wrong, if they're not pushing for an updated version, incl. compatibility fro the XZU.
Nuwidol said:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
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Exactly what I was thinking mate. Everyone is raving about the lenses but with no xenon flash I just don't see the point. Great idea just missing that one feature that would make me buy it over a regular camera. And to all those people who say you don't need the flash well if that was teh case sony wouldn't include a flash in the regular RX 100 II camera now would they?
jacktherapper00 said:
As i saw the announcement of the DSC QX100 i thought this is the answer why Sony put in the so-so cam into the XZU ... but - as per a german magazine (Link), the mount (like on the picture) of both versions will not fit for the huge XZU.
So it should work (finder, nfc, exchange etc.), but not as one unit.
But i trust Sony would be hardly wrong, if they're not pushing for an updated version, incl. compatibility fro the XZU.
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Sony said that they will make available covers which have mounts for these lenses built into them, at least for all major models.
Just like the one in IFA yesterday, the one Hirai had in his hand (The Z1, back cover with mount built in, which can make-do as normal phonce cover and QX100)
baileyjr said:
Exactly what I was thinking mate. Everyone is raving about the lenses but with no xenon flash I just don't see the point. Great idea just missing that one feature that would make me buy it over a regular camera. And to all those people who say you don't need the flash well if that was teh case sony wouldn't include a flash in the regular RX 100 II camera now would they?
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The only defence to the lack of flash on the RX100 I have is this:
French Laundry, Napa, CA
I took these for my wife with a Sony RX100. It was very very dark. Flash was not allowed, as a courtesy to other diners. Notice the white balance and the lack of noise?
Would I prefer it had a flash? Absolutely. But I am confident that even without it the images from this sensor and processing will be stellar.
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The only defence to the lack of flash on the RX100 I have is this:
French Laundry, Napa, CA
I took these for my wife with a Sony RX100. It was very very dark. Flash was not allowed, as a courtesy to other diners. Notice the white balance and the lack of noise?
Would I prefer it had a flash? Absolutely. But I am confident that even without it the images from this sensor and processing will be stellar.
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Fair play I must admit they do look pretty good. Still I think Id rather still have the full RX100, does make the lens only option more palatable mind. Thanks for that :good:
Look at that photo, looks like the Tablet Z, I hope Sony also made something to use those lenses with the Z Ultra.
here is the german page, it says it will work together with the Z Ultra
http://www.sony.de/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx10/passende-produkte#tab
And here the cover:
http://www.sony.de/product/dcc-cases/spa-acx2
I trust Sony is, lets call it willingly ambiguous, stating the compatibility softwarewise and not with view to the mount on the XZU.
From my perspective the ACX2 in an XZU version would be the most decent solution, instead of these two clips.
I would call Sony really stupid, not making the Z Ultra compatible with the QX10/100.
I think the cover is great, will get one together with a QX10.
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I'm a bit disappointed that it does not have manual controls or RAW.
I do hope however that the ability to use the new Sony Camera API will mean an application developer will provide RAW and manual support.
From Xperia UK Customer Services:
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre regarding compatible devices.
With regards to your enquiry, there is currently no plans that we are aware of to make the Sony RX100 compatible with the Sony Xperia Z Ultra at this moment in time.
We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.
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Look at that photo, looks like the Tablet Z, I hope Sony also made something to use those lenses with the Z Ultra.
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It's pretty obvious that it'll work with the Ultra isn't it? That lens is mounted on a god damn tablet, so it won't be any problems with the Ultra.
Yes they are compatible
Both QX10 and QX100 are compatible with Sony Xperia Z Ultra...atleast based on this
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/smartphones/xperia-z-ultra/accessories#tab
and
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx100/compatible-products#tab
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It's pretty obvious that it'll work with the Ultra isn't it? That lens is mounted on a god damn tablet, so it won't be any problems with the Ultra.
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The mount that ships with the camera is too small. The mount shown with the tablet hasn't been announced confirmed. Also, if you look at it, there's no obvious guarantee that it will go as small as 92mm (smaller than most tablets), so it may be too small.
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Both QX10 and QX100 are compatible with Sony Xperia Z Ultra...atleast based on this
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/smartphones/xperia-z-ultra/accessories#tab
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http://www.sony.co.uk/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx100/compatible-products#tab
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The cameras are compatible in the sense that you can use the ultra as the viewfinder etc but you can't at present physically clip it to the phone. So, far less useful.
So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
sal1311 said:
So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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Welcome to your new life!!
Its a great device. I was going to do the Note 3 thing too... but the Ultra is just such a great looking unit!
You will be happy with the purchase...
oh... ohHH... don't get me started on 'next couple of days'... I've been without for 11 days now!!!
(my phone that is)
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Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I find Sony's support better than Samsung. We've had an update each month for 4 months, thats pretty good!
But more sheep will buy the note 3, so you are also more inclined to get a few extra developers.
In saying that I think we have a few good dev's here at present.. with more to come......
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Westnile said:
Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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essentially this is what you have to decide....
-large unit, smooth UI, excellent camera, average build (Note3)
-larger unit, smoother UI, average camera, premium build (Ultra)
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
SweFox said:
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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No screen issues here with Z1, my Z1 screen looks even better then the Z Ultra one in a store here lol and I don't have a hot Z1 even when playing games. But I don't play very heavy games
Anyway I'd choose Z Ultra over Note 3, like it's been said camera isn't as good as Note 3, but I wouldn't use it.anyway with a device this size, kinda looks ridiculous to take pictures with large devices
Anyway build quality and design are the key points to.choose ZU over Note 3. Sony interface is 100times more beautiful as Samsung interface (although this is something personal) and Sony feels very premium with the aluminium body and glass
And I'm here to develop, working on kitkat AOSP now
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maquan said:
Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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People say the Z1 has washed out colours etc which I don't give a crap about. I'm tired of samsungs bad screens because they have this retarded unevenness, thick lines which makes the screen look damaged etc. All samsung phones gets hot really fast.
The battery can easily be tweaked. People complain about battery about all samsung phones etc but then I get 2 days out of it including Note 3. I get really good battery with my current Z ultra as well.
So I'm pretty confident. Another thing is the night and day difference between samsung and sonys phone. Sonys phone scream premium.
I would without a hitch sacrifice popping colours for better build quality etc. That's all samsung has going "popping colours" and then you have bad build quality, bad screens etc etc.
All in all, I'm extremely happy I went to sony after all these years with samsung ^^.
dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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That why we have the forum:good:
That's what I meant though. The forum support for the xzu is less than what I have already seen for the note 3. I'm sure actual sony support is great and we can just walk into a retailer. I think that it's just because it's an incredibly niche market.
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Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
rockky said:
Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
sal1311 said:
hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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The build quality and screen is trash.
I love touchwiz though and the whole s-pen thing.
But I couldn't be happier changing now .
Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
hansip87 said:
Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Just my personal opinion of course.
I've had Samsung all my life, as you can see in my sign I've had most of Samsung devices. I friggin LOVED the Note 3 when I first got it..
Samsung has a BAD screen problem which I've put up with all these years which made me finally do the big switch.
So when I now have my Z Ultra and Z1 and think, what does Samsung offer now? Nothing, they are pure trash in my eyes.
Sony is just better in all areas in my opinion. Yes, I miss the s-pen, I kinda miss their multitasking software etc. However, I don't miss them enough to go back to that garbage display they have.
The funny thing is that their display problem have been in every single phone they've released. So all in all with the display and disgusting build quality, they offer nothing that beats Sonys Z Ultra and Z1.
Just wanted to post an explanation ^^.
I just bought this phone ,i had several possibilities nexus 5,note3 or lg g2. My last phone was lg optimus g pro a nice phone but the lack of updates from lg made me to buy the SONY XZU.It has such an amazing display
One of the more idiotic statements on mobile devices I've seen....(but OK...it's 'pure trash'...eyes rolled so far back it hurts
We've had the N3 since release and it's extraordinary...best smartphone on the market.
Pure functionality is all I care about...hardware is secondary 4 me (except for camera..
Note 3 shines in every debt. I love the amoled screens..and N3's is fantastic. Miss it.
But....I really need a tablet, that can also function as a phone if need be, and the Ultra is just that for me.
QUOTE=SweFox;47166072]The Note III is pure trash =/.[/QUOTE]
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
kenturky said:
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153View attachment 5614611
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
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BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
Iluminatus23 said:
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....