My Xperia Z Ultra short review.
Build Quality: Damn solid! obvious better than Z.
Screen Panel: The best I ever seen so far, no more viewing angle issue. Equal or even better than HTC One.
Loud Speaker: Slightly better than Z but still too soft.
Performance: Snapdragon 800 & Adreno 330 really is monster! wow! Awesome performance! Heavy 3D games had no issue playback smoothly even turn on the 4xAA at Developer options. Example games I test out include Real Racing & Despicable Me.
Interface: Currently same as Z one, it is old UI, not the new one as advertise during press. They is no X-Reality support yet, and also cannot open more than one Small Apps. The stylus input is kind of gimmick also for now, not as seen at press where can use everywhere.
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thanks for the mini review!
how is the battery life? I'd imagine with that huge screen and thirsty 2.3ghz processor it would be pretty bad though.
Thanks for the review!!! MY mouth is watering!
Would like to know your opinions on battery life as well ALSO is the speaker easily-covered with your hand as on the Z?
ssj_jaypee said:
thanks for the mini review!
how is the battery life? I'd imagine with that huge screen and thirsty 2.3ghz processor it would be pretty bad though.
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gunblazer said:
Thanks for the review!!! MY mouth is watering!
Would like to know your opinions on battery life as well ALSO is the speaker easily-covered with your hand as on the Z?
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Can't tell on battery life yet, need some days. I just get it yesterday.
flash
no camera flash ???
miss that ?
trishul said:
no camera flash ???
miss that ?
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I never use flash, not miss that.
New Firmware 14.1.B.0.471 for Sony Xperia Z Ultra is out!
Notice much smooth, my Antutu score also jump from 30k to 33k now.
Still old UI without X-Reality Support.
Camera quality seems much better.
Antutu score increase from 30k to 33k for me.
New Indoor test after firmware update to 14.1.B.0.471
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
Andrewtst said:
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
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You mean you can't use the pencil/stylus when your palm is on the screen?
Small apps introduced in the update? Or not yet?
Andrewtst said:
Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471 improvement/fixed:
Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
Still old UI without X-Reality support yet.
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I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?
thanks..
hey thank man for the review..its really a mouth watering stuff..the camera even though only 8 mp without flash seems to be great..how is the general feel of the device..is it pocketable i mean shirt pocket or jean pocket..i dont care even if it pops just out of the pocket until its fitting in the pocket im fine with that..thats the small comprimise we have to make to carry around this sensational phone right??how is the touch responsive ness of the screen..how is the general ui performance ??is it smooth...have fun with the device and please do update the info..cheers mate..i got the z 1 month back still its looking brand new and still i m awestruck with the beauty of xperia z ..so cant sell that so early and go for z ultra ..but for sure in next few months..
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Andrewtst said:
New Firmware 14.1.B.0.471 for Sony Xperia Z Ultra is out!
Notice much smooth, my Antutu score also jump from 30k to 33k now.
Still old UI without X-Reality Support.
Camera quality seems much better.
Antutu score increase from 30k to 33k for me.
New Indoor test after firmware update to 14.1.B.0.471
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wow ...33k on antutu is seriously sensational the fastest of the devices like s4 and htc one are not even close..thats awesome..
Do you have any idea why you don't have the final version of the UI as shown at launch? does that make your unit a pre-release version or something not ready for sale yet?
I'm really curious as Xperia Z ultra is on sale in my area for USD 655 for the 3G model with similar UI as yours.
oh, and what region is Xperia Z ultra from?
antisp1n said:
You mean you can't use the pencil/stylus when your palm is on the screen?
Small apps introduced in the update? Or not yet?
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Can't and still run old look and functionality like Z.
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I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?
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Got others user already apply and no issue.
deepu4puppy said:
hey thank man for the review..its really a mouth watering stuff..the camera even though only 8 mp without flash seems to be great..how is the general feel of the device..is it pocketable i mean shirt pocket or jean pocket..i dont care even if it pops just out of the pocket until its fitting in the pocket im fine with that..thats the small comprimise we have to make to carry around this sensational phone right??how is the touch responsive ness of the screen..how is the general ui performance ??is it smooth...have fun with the device and please do update the info..cheers mate..i got the z 1 month back still its looking brand new and still i m awestruck with the beauty of xperia z ..so cant sell that so early and go for z ultra ..but for sure in next few months..
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wow ...33k on antutu is seriously sensational the fastest of the devices like s4 and htc one are not even close..thats awesome..
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Performance is awesome! After updates is running fine now.
jack1192 said:
Do you have any idea why you don't have the final version of the UI as shown at launch? does that make your unit a pre-release version or something not ready for sale yet?
I'm really curious as Xperia Z ultra is on sale in my area for USD 655 for the 3G model with similar UI as yours.
oh, and what region is Xperia Z ultra from?
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All retail unit in whole world now still running at old UI, include wherever I seen unboxed from Hong Kong, Thailand and my country Malaysia. None is support X-Reality also, only came with Bravia Engine 2 now.
Xreality ETA is sept as per Sony. Guessing the rest of the UI will also be updated then
nice !!!
but i was hoping that the widgets would cover the screen (walkman widget is short ).. i assume other sony widgets are not covering the entire length
14.1.B.1.414 and onwards will have the new UI and X-Reality display.
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Will X-reality come to our XZ?
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Got others user already apply and no issue.
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Thanks buddy, thats good news. I do prefer to apply a screen protector.
Related
I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
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I moved this post to the OP spot, apologies to Pandemic for having you as the OP.
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Pandemic said:
I beat my friends thier phone (one of the newest, like galaxy note and htc desire) against my Neo V stock official 587 supercharged and modified in all opinions (browsing, loading, scrolling and all that stuff) , they are shocked hahaha xD
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Yes indeed and i dont know of his note but he get a bucnh of crap on it a saw, further i dont know mate, its strange but what can i do about it.
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Hahaha xD
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
I also don't think it's possible. Galaxy S2 even beats the Xperia S
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
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Hahaha yeah i dont know mate, i thought its not possible but i will do another test with him soon, i dont know about the crap becaise its alot, but his galaxy note is not what it must be, almost dead i think.
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I beat a guy on stock Optimus 2x with lots of crap today with cm9.1 on mine. That's fair play ( I think ) as that thing has twice our processing power. Let's see if I can beat any other dual core...
P.S. Believe it or not, I've never lost to any single core device. Ever.
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If I may ask. When you people say I beat that and that device. How did you actually beat it, in what way?
Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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Actually you picked model which is raw power but bad at being fluid.
Launcher which is used on Optimus 2X is badly made, and it lags by default At least it was on GB, don't know how it's on ICS(if O2X even got ICS)
Kinda same story as launcher on Sony ICS, it is ****, at least in builds before .587, but even in 587 it's not as good as on GB.
Also, you can't compare 2 phones, one on stock, other on custom rom with performance modifications.
Another thing, O2X is on tegra2 SoC, its kinda hard to believe that games were more fast on Neo. as tegra eats games for breakfast but ok if you say so
Sorry, don't want to be downer but put both phones on stock and then compare them.
Also Pandemic told that his phone beat Galaxy Note. I guess he forgot that note have "a bit" larger screen with "a bit" larger resolution. You can't compare car's and trucks.
On big screen and big resolution add that note maybe had some more apps on it.. and nothing strange that he beat him on scrolling and loading pages. Put that kind of screen on Neo and watch him breathing like dying..
For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
Another thing, some phones are just badly made, like htc sensation, it has good spec's but it's badly at usage, don't know how is in benchmarks(actually if I remember correct, it was also pretty bad in tests), but usage is bad.
We all went a bit off topic here, maybe slicing some posts into another thread would be ok..
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I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
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General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
Pricewatch
I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
I agree @Madfysh,
But you see, I know people in school etc. who keep giving me s**t about how their phone is better than mine. And after tons of ignoring it, knowing it's no use trying to compare phones, you just have to tell them to STFU. That's when, I take part in these "competitions." And knowing its unfair, I happily give them "in your face b**ch" with custom ROMS.
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@sdk, Xperia sola perhaps. And since s3 launched, the s2 is quite coming into the same price range now.
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General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
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Right?! No one meant any harm, but this should have it's own thread
Madfysh said:
For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
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this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
Agree with the whole other part of the post tho
sdk16420 said:
General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
Pricewatch
I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
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Agree,comparing 2011 xperia mid range(Neo,V,Ray) to today midrange devices there are some downsides with each mid range devices.If I want to upgrade from my Neo to a decent midrange device then in xperia range only thing that comes to my mind is Xperia P but then the huge no comes with 16GB memory :/ This is just an one example.
Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
ThilinaC said:
this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
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Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
Madfysh said:
Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
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Yes and the eyes are to slow
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ThilinaC said:
Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
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same here with some mods i got it to be quite fast and it does the things i use it nicely. if only it had 1gig of ram....
Hello everybody,
Sony launched today two new lenses(Sony Cyber-shot QX10 & QX100) for Smartphones. Does someone know if it works on XZU, i mean the back part where you put the XZU between the two plastic lips
mobile-freak said:
Hello everybody,
Sony launched today two new lenses(Sony Cyber-shot QX10 & QX100) for Smartphones. Does someone know if it works on XZU, i mean the back part where you put the XZU between the two plastic lips
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Since it will be using the NFC on the XZU to sync, yes it will work.
Sony QX100
As the QX100 uses the same sensor as the Sony RX100 image quality should be excellent.
No flash though ...
100% I will get it.
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100% I will get it.
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Already pre-ordered mine from Amazon :laugh:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
Nuwidol said:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
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Dude can you believe this QX100 with iblazr
It will be so stupid.
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Getting the XPeria Z Ultra with this, it will be awesome!
Tomorrow XPeria Z Ultra arrives on stores @ Portugal!
Can't wait to try it heheheh
As i saw the announcement of the DSC QX100 i thought this is the answer why Sony put in the so-so cam into the XZU ... but - as per a german magazine (Link), the mount (like on the picture) of both versions will not fit for the huge XZU.
So it should work (finder, nfc, exchange etc.), but not as one unit.
But i trust Sony would be hardly wrong, if they're not pushing for an updated version, incl. compatibility fro the XZU.
Nuwidol said:
I originally thought, when I first heard about these lenses, that the reason Sony didn't put a flash on the ZU was, because these lenses would have a better flash. So, here are the lenses, & still no flash?
Do we need to get a separate flash attachment too now?
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Exactly what I was thinking mate. Everyone is raving about the lenses but with no xenon flash I just don't see the point. Great idea just missing that one feature that would make me buy it over a regular camera. And to all those people who say you don't need the flash well if that was teh case sony wouldn't include a flash in the regular RX 100 II camera now would they?
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As i saw the announcement of the DSC QX100 i thought this is the answer why Sony put in the so-so cam into the XZU ... but - as per a german magazine (Link), the mount (like on the picture) of both versions will not fit for the huge XZU.
So it should work (finder, nfc, exchange etc.), but not as one unit.
But i trust Sony would be hardly wrong, if they're not pushing for an updated version, incl. compatibility fro the XZU.
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Sony said that they will make available covers which have mounts for these lenses built into them, at least for all major models.
Just like the one in IFA yesterday, the one Hirai had in his hand (The Z1, back cover with mount built in, which can make-do as normal phonce cover and QX100)
baileyjr said:
Exactly what I was thinking mate. Everyone is raving about the lenses but with no xenon flash I just don't see the point. Great idea just missing that one feature that would make me buy it over a regular camera. And to all those people who say you don't need the flash well if that was teh case sony wouldn't include a flash in the regular RX 100 II camera now would they?
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The only defence to the lack of flash on the RX100 I have is this:
French Laundry, Napa, CA
I took these for my wife with a Sony RX100. It was very very dark. Flash was not allowed, as a courtesy to other diners. Notice the white balance and the lack of noise?
Would I prefer it had a flash? Absolutely. But I am confident that even without it the images from this sensor and processing will be stellar.
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The only defence to the lack of flash on the RX100 I have is this:
French Laundry, Napa, CA
I took these for my wife with a Sony RX100. It was very very dark. Flash was not allowed, as a courtesy to other diners. Notice the white balance and the lack of noise?
Would I prefer it had a flash? Absolutely. But I am confident that even without it the images from this sensor and processing will be stellar.
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Fair play I must admit they do look pretty good. Still I think Id rather still have the full RX100, does make the lens only option more palatable mind. Thanks for that :good:
Look at that photo, looks like the Tablet Z, I hope Sony also made something to use those lenses with the Z Ultra.
here is the german page, it says it will work together with the Z Ultra
http://www.sony.de/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx10/passende-produkte#tab
And here the cover:
http://www.sony.de/product/dcc-cases/spa-acx2
I trust Sony is, lets call it willingly ambiguous, stating the compatibility softwarewise and not with view to the mount on the XZU.
From my perspective the ACX2 in an XZU version would be the most decent solution, instead of these two clips.
I would call Sony really stupid, not making the Z Ultra compatible with the QX10/100.
I think the cover is great, will get one together with a QX10.
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I'm a bit disappointed that it does not have manual controls or RAW.
I do hope however that the ability to use the new Sony Camera API will mean an application developer will provide RAW and manual support.
From Xperia UK Customer Services:
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre regarding compatible devices.
With regards to your enquiry, there is currently no plans that we are aware of to make the Sony RX100 compatible with the Sony Xperia Z Ultra at this moment in time.
We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.
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Look at that photo, looks like the Tablet Z, I hope Sony also made something to use those lenses with the Z Ultra.
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It's pretty obvious that it'll work with the Ultra isn't it? That lens is mounted on a god damn tablet, so it won't be any problems with the Ultra.
Yes they are compatible
Both QX10 and QX100 are compatible with Sony Xperia Z Ultra...atleast based on this
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/smartphones/xperia-z-ultra/accessories#tab
and
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx100/compatible-products#tab
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It's pretty obvious that it'll work with the Ultra isn't it? That lens is mounted on a god damn tablet, so it won't be any problems with the Ultra.
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The mount that ships with the camera is too small. The mount shown with the tablet hasn't been announced confirmed. Also, if you look at it, there's no obvious guarantee that it will go as small as 92mm (smaller than most tablets), so it may be too small.
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sats.mine2k4 said:
Both QX10 and QX100 are compatible with Sony Xperia Z Ultra...atleast based on this
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/smartphones/xperia-z-ultra/accessories#tab
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http://www.sony.co.uk/product/dsc-qx-series/dsc-qx100/compatible-products#tab
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The cameras are compatible in the sense that you can use the ultra as the viewfinder etc but you can't at present physically clip it to the phone. So, far less useful.
So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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Welcome to your new life!!
Its a great device. I was going to do the Note 3 thing too... but the Ultra is just such a great looking unit!
You will be happy with the purchase...
oh... ohHH... don't get me started on 'next couple of days'... I've been without for 11 days now!!!
(my phone that is)
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Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I find Sony's support better than Samsung. We've had an update each month for 4 months, thats pretty good!
But more sheep will buy the note 3, so you are also more inclined to get a few extra developers.
In saying that I think we have a few good dev's here at present.. with more to come......
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Westnile said:
Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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essentially this is what you have to decide....
-large unit, smooth UI, excellent camera, average build (Note3)
-larger unit, smoother UI, average camera, premium build (Ultra)
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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No screen issues here with Z1, my Z1 screen looks even better then the Z Ultra one in a store here lol and I don't have a hot Z1 even when playing games. But I don't play very heavy games
Anyway I'd choose Z Ultra over Note 3, like it's been said camera isn't as good as Note 3, but I wouldn't use it.anyway with a device this size, kinda looks ridiculous to take pictures with large devices
Anyway build quality and design are the key points to.choose ZU over Note 3. Sony interface is 100times more beautiful as Samsung interface (although this is something personal) and Sony feels very premium with the aluminium body and glass
And I'm here to develop, working on kitkat AOSP now
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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People say the Z1 has washed out colours etc which I don't give a crap about. I'm tired of samsungs bad screens because they have this retarded unevenness, thick lines which makes the screen look damaged etc. All samsung phones gets hot really fast.
The battery can easily be tweaked. People complain about battery about all samsung phones etc but then I get 2 days out of it including Note 3. I get really good battery with my current Z ultra as well.
So I'm pretty confident. Another thing is the night and day difference between samsung and sonys phone. Sonys phone scream premium.
I would without a hitch sacrifice popping colours for better build quality etc. That's all samsung has going "popping colours" and then you have bad build quality, bad screens etc etc.
All in all, I'm extremely happy I went to sony after all these years with samsung ^^.
dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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That why we have the forum:good:
That's what I meant though. The forum support for the xzu is less than what I have already seen for the note 3. I'm sure actual sony support is great and we can just walk into a retailer. I think that it's just because it's an incredibly niche market.
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Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
rockky said:
Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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The build quality and screen is trash.
I love touchwiz though and the whole s-pen thing.
But I couldn't be happier changing now .
Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Just my personal opinion of course.
I've had Samsung all my life, as you can see in my sign I've had most of Samsung devices. I friggin LOVED the Note 3 when I first got it..
Samsung has a BAD screen problem which I've put up with all these years which made me finally do the big switch.
So when I now have my Z Ultra and Z1 and think, what does Samsung offer now? Nothing, they are pure trash in my eyes.
Sony is just better in all areas in my opinion. Yes, I miss the s-pen, I kinda miss their multitasking software etc. However, I don't miss them enough to go back to that garbage display they have.
The funny thing is that their display problem have been in every single phone they've released. So all in all with the display and disgusting build quality, they offer nothing that beats Sonys Z Ultra and Z1.
Just wanted to post an explanation ^^.
I just bought this phone ,i had several possibilities nexus 5,note3 or lg g2. My last phone was lg optimus g pro a nice phone but the lack of updates from lg made me to buy the SONY XZU.It has such an amazing display
One of the more idiotic statements on mobile devices I've seen....(but OK...it's 'pure trash'...eyes rolled so far back it hurts
We've had the N3 since release and it's extraordinary...best smartphone on the market.
Pure functionality is all I care about...hardware is secondary 4 me (except for camera..
Note 3 shines in every debt. I love the amoled screens..and N3's is fantastic. Miss it.
But....I really need a tablet, that can also function as a phone if need be, and the Ultra is just that for me.
QUOTE=SweFox;47166072]The Note III is pure trash =/.[/QUOTE]
Hello I got an alpha 850M and I wanted to know if its good to change it for a Sony Z3 + 80 US. Would you do it? Why yes or why not to? :good::good:
danieldp1990 said:
Hello I got an alpha 850M and I wanted to know if its good to change it for a Sony Z3 + 80 US. Would you do it? Why yes or why not to? :good::good:
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SONY is good. Samsung is good. Tough to say.
Keep the Samsung ☺
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SONY is good. Samsung is good. Tough to say.
Keep the Samsung
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Why would you keep Alpha?
danieldp1990 said:
Why would you keep Alpha?
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32 GB. Elegant. Fast. No heating. Fingerprint sensor...etc.
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32 GB. Elegant. Fast. No heating. Fingerprint sensor...etc.
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no heating my ass
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xerox89 said:
no heating my ass
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Don't root your phone, idiot.
And that's a fake photo.
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no heating my ass
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Hi all
I'm sorry xerox but after hard playing on asphalt 8, i get this result.
And your result is take when the CPU is tested with a stress test, not in real utilisation.
So keep the alpha
Its up to you. I've had all the Sony line up (ive had pretty much all Android flagships except the Alpha, which I just bought last week). The Sony will heat up and after use for 4-6 months beit from charging overnight or playing games and the back will become loose meaning it is not waterproof. the phone will still work though so that's up to you. I just did not like the loose back which Sony have only fixed on the Z5. Another thing is if you do wear skinny jeans the phone does start to creak after a while after being under stress from you moving around.
I love my little Alpha and build quality is brill. Both phones are really snappy but I prefer developing stuff for Samsungs with Exy chips.
This is all from experience and not someone who hasn't tried the phone. I do like the Sonys though and have development quite a few ROMs for them
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Its up to you. I've had all the Sony line up (ive had pretty much all Android flagships except the Alpha, which I just bought last week). The Sony will heat up and after use for 4-6 months beit from charging overnight or playing games and the back will become loose meaning it is not waterproof. the phone will still work though so that's up to you. I just did not like the loose back which Sony have only fixed on the Z5. Another thing is if you do wear skinny jeans the phone does start to creak after a while after being under stress from you moving around.
I love my little Alpha and build quality is brill. Both phones are really snappy but I prefer developing stuff for Samsungs with Exy chips.
This is all from experience and not someone who hasn't tried the phone. I do like the Sonys though and have development quite a few ROMs for them
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Hello thx for the opinion. I need to ask in terms of performance , camera, and th and build quality screen etc you still preffer Alpha?
The display on the alpha is an amoled type which is good for viewing under sunlight and in normal place i think it produced unreal color(I always switch to basic mode) but the Z3 has an Ips display which is not really good under sunlight but in normal place i think the color is pretty decent(Prefer the z3).The performance of the snapdragon 801 is better than the exynos on the alpha(prefer the z3).The camera on both is pretty decent and can capture 4k video(prefer the z3).Both have a 32gb internal memory but the z3 has an expandable memory card(prefer the alpha 32gb is enough for me).The alpha use touchwiz which has full of bloatware and it use alot of ram,the z3 use sony UI which has very little bloatware and lighter than touchwiz (prefer CyanogenMod). Dev support for the alpha is suck because it use exynos processor (no driver plus not alot of dev use the alpha) and the z3 has tons of roms to flash beside there are alot of dev keep developing a rom for that device .Both probably get an official android marshmallow update from their manufacturer.For the design I prefer the Alpha design(Cus I've use the Z1 compact before and the design on the z3 is pretty much the same).The Alpha has fingerprint sensor the Z3 doesnt,the z3 is waterproof the alpha doesnt.Decided by your self
danieldp1990 said:
Hello thx for the opinion. I need to ask in terms of performance , camera, and th and build quality screen etc you still preffer Alpha?
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Hi
For me the Alpha is in the best 2014 phones.
Good photos,
VERY VERY GOOD performance with his octo core Exynos 5430 processor ( For me Exynos 5430 is besser than S801 )
The screen is very good for a 720p and the built quality is excellent, no cracks or shocks after one year.
You can make your choice
I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
rvs80 said:
I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
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for the moment just http://community.umidigi.com/article-334-1.html
http://community.umidigi.com/article-333-1.html
The PROCESSOR is the same as you think the z's root method works?
Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
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Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
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I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
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Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
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In fact, what brakes me is that there is no reviews around and then, since I'm a flashaoilic, I did not find anything interesting about
Here you will find a lot of information about the Z1 Pro.
http://community.umidigi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=160
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You can also look in the other forums and read what the customers write about other UMIDIGI devices.
So you get a good impression what you expect when you buy a device of this brand.
cieffe54 said:
I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
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Thanks for suggesting zenfone 3. Same price bracket and very good specs if not the best. I think I will go for Asus. Only thing i may miss is Dual camera system for the bokehs.
For me the bokeh mode is just a nice gimmick.
A good single camera, which makes good pictures even in poor light conditions, I find much more important.
There's better options and no root for z pro, camera is OK and bokeh as said is gimmick.
Support is lousy from UmiDigi also ROMs have pretty much no extras included to tweak. Thing twice
Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
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Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
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Damn this phone is horrible for the price.
Heck, vernee mars pro which has a faster CPU costs less than this.
I would switch to a better known brand.
I have the impression that many of the Chinese smartphones come from the same factory.
Look at the UMIDIGI Z Pro, Ulefone Gemini Pro and NOA H10.
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This is no coincidence.
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
Nark0tiX said:
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
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I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
As an owner of Z pro I say save your money - Don't buy UMIDIGI phone (not this model and not other model)
Software includes many bugs and there is no decent support
They fix one bug and add 2 new
juv3nal said:
I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
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I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
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I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
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Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
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Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
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Further edit.. About 15 min later, same settings..
Quality is bad..I got better results on my old Asus Zenfone 2... May swap back to that..